BTK--serial killer returns

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:33 pm

30 years ago in Wichita Kansas there was a series of at least 8 gruesome horrific murders. the killer taunted the police with letters and even mailed victims' belongings to prove he was the killer. then he disappeared from sight...for nearly 25 years. he styled himself the B-T-K killer...for 'bind, torture, kill'. which describes his method. his murders were grotesque, even by serial killer standards. ...now he has started communicating with the police, as well as a news station. he has again sent letters and the belongings of victims. so it is a wait. will he kill again? is he hoping to be caught? what drives him? is it attention-seeking for the thrill of causing fear? the fun of leading the police a merry chase? i believe modern methods are going to result in effecting his apprehension. i hope it's before he decides to commit another vicious murder.

capt_buzzard · Post by **capt_buzzard** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:21 pm

Lady Cop on his trail.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:52 pm

capt_buzzard wrote: Lady Cop on his trail.NO. i am in florida.

Kansas Bureau of Investigation, FBI, and excellent Wichita LE have worked this case for years. i have faith they will succeed.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:14 pm

blue wrote: "then he disappeared from sight...for nearly 25 years"

Sounds like he might have been serving a prison term for another offense?
there were a couple schools of thought, that he had done some prison time, and/or that he had died.... the prevailing feeling in the investigation now is that he has lived among the citizens of Wichita all these years. a chilling prospect.

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:41 pm

Perhaps he has controlled himself and killed, but hid the bodies well-or he moved and killed in another area without taunting police. I hope they catch the phucker soon.

Der Wulf · Post by **Der Wulf** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:49 pm

OR maybe a friend or relative, son?, found the old man's grisley collection and reinvented BTK :-2

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:08 pm

Beth wrote: Perhaps he has controlled himself and killed, but hid the bodies well-or he moved and killed in another area without taunting police. I hope they catch the phucker soon.
this character doesn't want to hide his handiwork, he wants it out there, known, seen, terrorizing people. this guy is reveling in publicity. he LOVES the attention. he is not doing hidden simple murder. he likes the colorful and spectacular ugly stuff.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:11 pm

Der Wulf wrote: OR maybe a friend or relative, son?, found the old man's grisley collection and reinvented BTK :-2
the shared pathology would be so rare as to be almost impossible. the stuff he's mailing in is contemporaneous to the murders and on the money. he's not about to share the "credit".

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:33 am

lady cop wrote: this character doesn't want to hide his handiwork, he wants it out there, known, seen, terrorizing people. this guy is reveling in publicity. he LOVES the attention. he is not doing hidden simple murder. he likes the colorful and spectacular ugly stuff.
Yes, but serial murderers can go back into the woodwork. They are clever at manipulation. If he saw that the police were too close before, he could have gone into hiding. But, I think that is is very logical to speculate that he was in prison, perhaps in another country, or changed his MO and killed in a different area.

These type of people are both horrifying and fascinating. they are human monsters, so clever and cunning. I wish they could suffer the pain and terror they gave their victims for all eternity.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:40 am

Beth wrote: Yes, but serial murderers can go back into the woodwork. They are clever at manipulation. If he saw that the police were too close before, he could have gone into hiding. But, I think that is is very logical to speculate that he was in prison, perhaps in another country, or changed his MO and killed in a different area.

These type of people are both horrifying and fascinating. they are human monsters, so clever and cunning. I wish they could suffer the pain and terror they gave their victims for all eternity.
Hey Beth!

....if it helps any, ted bundy went sniveling and weeping and groveling to the electric chair.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:26 pm

BREAKING NEWS~~ Wichita Police are questioning a suspect in BTK killings! Whooeeee! i hope they have him! (Feb, 25, 1730 eastern)

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:07 pm

59 year old dennis rader has been arrested as the BTK killer. he lived in the same house 30 years, city worker, married with two kids. scout leader and church regular. at least 10 horrible gruesome vicious murders under his belt. nondescript looking guy. Wichita has breathed a huge collective sigh of relief.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:12 pm

dennis rader alleged BTK killer

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Der Wulf · Post by **Der Wulf** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:56 pm

lady cop wrote: dennis rader alleged BTK killer
Dog catcher, what a perfect cover.

btw: anybody know any details of the daughter's involvment?

koan · Post by **koan** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:09 am

It's twisted enough to try and imagine how someone can murder let alone torture people. Then you have to try and imagine living a presumed normal life after as if nothing ever happened. How must the family feel? How could they ever have a normal life again? It's beyond comprehension to me.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:49 pm

hi Mary, thankyou, i did see his booking photo, if i run across it i will post it. it is interesting to note he is NOT eligible for the death penalty in Kansas due to the statute not being available during the times of his crimes.

Der Wulf · Post by **Der Wulf** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:30 pm

Booking photo

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Beth · Post by **Beth** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:40 pm

Glad they caught him. I feel awful for his family and those he deceived. His background makes me even more resigned to trust no one and watch everyone (well, mainly men) with guard.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:59 pm

THANK GOD HE IS OFF THE STREETS..

I heard he is talking big time. There might even be a recent case that he was involved in. Which could get him the death penalty..

BETH, Don't trust anyone... Male or Female.. when it comes to your family, and children.. Sometimes you can't even trust members of your own family.. :-3

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:37 am

june 27....he just pled guilty to 10 counts of murder, and is describing the killings in detail in court, Court TV is showing it. i have seen everything and still it is making me sick. he is calmly and dispassionately telling every detail of his vicious horrible sick twisted murders of women and children.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:58 am

OMG OMG ...he is telling in detail how he strangled a woman and some babies, i am freaking out here. god, if i were the court officer i might have to shoot him. but not in vital areas. just in his genitals. he is talking about rape and murder and strangulation with plastic bags and a belt and the use of handcuffs on his victims. what they said, what he did. and he looks like he's discussing a walk in the park. i am waiting for someone in court to attack him.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:49 am

.........'Bind, Torture, Kill' murderer confesses

A man accused of being the serial killer known as BTK -- for "Bind, Torture, Kill" -- today pleaded guilty to 10 counts of first-degree murder. Dennis Rader then matter-of-factly described how he committed the crimes. "I had never strangled anyone before, so I really didn't know how much pressure you had to put on a person or how long it would take," he said.

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