WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

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So in 1974, an alarming warning was given by the National Academy of Sciences. They recommended that, "scientists throughout the World join members of their committee in voluntarily deferring experiments linking animal viruses."

Just keep that little tidbit of information in mind for a little while. It's important.

In the meantime, the actual AIDS virus was created in 1974 at Fort Detrick, and by 1977, the World Health Organization staged the first catastrophic act of disseminating the virus into the Population.

How did they do it? The W.H.O. went into Africa and spread the virus through a series of smallpox vaccinations.

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Thats right folks! Smallpox vaccinations.

Let me guess...some of you might be asking yourselves, "Whatever happened to the Green Monkey theory?" You know, the one about the monkey that bit an African man on his ass, and that's how the disease was started. Hmmm, I wonder who started that rumor. Could it have been.....the Controllers?

Anways, you guys don't seriously believe that theory do you? I hope not because it's one of the biggest hoaxes and the biggest LIES of all-time. Yeah, according to to their story, a green monkey bit an African man on the ass; then this man had sex with someone and passed on the disease. Then that person had sex with someone else and spread the disease. But simultaneous to this "event", AIDS is also breaking out in Brazil, Haiti, other parts of Africa, and the United States. What were those green monkeys doing, flying around the Globe with jet packs on their backs?

How many people even know what a green monkey is? If this monkey DID bite a man on the ass, it's still statistically impossible for disease to spread so exponentially and to reach such epidemic proportions in so many places around the Globe...all from a simple monkey bite. If people would ever look at the numbers, they would see that it was disseminated around the World, proving that the disease was deliberately spread rather than just happening "by accident" as the result of a monkey bite.

Another interesting note is that if someone was to ever take a look at the gene structure of a green monkey, they would discover that it is genetically impossible to transfer AIDS from a monkey to a man by natural means.

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TruthBringer wrote: The AIDS virus was developed under the supervision of a CIA program called MK-NAOMI by the SOD - Special Operations Division -- of the Army.

Ok so now that you know where AIDS was originally created, now it's important to know why it was created.I've been trying to grasp what it is about these messages that's so insulting, and I think this is the core of the problem.

You get an assertion. Fine, I like assertions.

You then immediately get "so now that you know". You've been told and what I say is Truth therefore you now know it to be a fact. No attempt at listing any supporting evidence, any causal link, just the flip-switch. You didn't know, and then I enlightened you, and now you're in a different state than you were before.

I'm not sure what name we might give to this. TruthBringer the Cult Leader? All he needs is adherents.

If it's "Truth" then of course the man need produce no evidence or rational argument to support his contentions. The mere fact - if it's the case - that what he says is internally self-consistent is completely irrelevant. Novelists do that, produce a fictional self-consistent world.

What I can't tell is whether this charlatan is self-deluded or cynically manipulative.

Either way, I do not wish him well.

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spot wrote: I've been trying to grasp what it is about these messages that's so insulting, and I think this is the core of the problem.

You get an assertion. Fine, I like assertions.

You then immediately get "so now that you know". You've been told and what I say is Truth therefore you now know it to be a fact. No attempt at listing any supporting evidence, any causal link, just the flip-switch. You didn't know, and then I enlightened you, and now you're in a different state than you were before.

I'm not sure what name we might give to this. TruthBringer the Cult Leader? All he needs is adherents.

If it's "Truth" then of course the man need produce no evidence or rational argument to support his contentions. The mere fact - if it's the case - that what he says is internally self-consistent is completely irrelevant. Novelists do that, produce a fictional self-consistent world.

What I can't tell is whether this charlatan is self-deluded or cynically manipulative.

Either way, I do not wish him well.


Well my friend, I would not hesitate to say that I have just as strong of feelings about you as you do for me. Words can not describe.

Anyways, unlike you however, I wish everyone the best, and I hope that eventually, all people return to the Source that they originated from with their Souls that much more grown than they were before.

As far as the rest of what you said goes, it is the Truth. And you can't contest it for that very reason.

However, you could do some research on it for yourself if you wished.

I would strongly suggest checking for yourself. You will find that all of what I am posting here about AIDS is true. You can check the name of the place that AIDS was created. You can check the two sources I listed above, the House Bill and the Bulletin for the World Health Organization. And you can even check into the monkey story if you wish to. All of it is the truth.

And I should know...I bought into that monkey story as a kid. So did my parents though...so I shouldn't feel too bad about it. =)~

Then of course there's the old MK-NAOMI project. I am sure there is much to be learned about that as well. You can find some stuff about that on the internet. Not sure how deep into it you'll be able to get though. After all, the core of it is still CLASSIFIED. Which means nobody on the internet will probably find out what it was really all about.

Why not research a little bit on Dr. MacArthur as well? See if he had anything to do with Fort Detrick in the 1970's. Again...you will find out that he did. And again...you will find out that he was one who helped to produce the virus.

Oh by the way, it's Dr. Donald MacArthur to be exact. You pritty much have two options when it comes to how I came up with that name. Either I made it up completely, or there really was a Doctor Donald MacArthur. Only one way to find out though. So why not have at it?

Besides...aren't you the same guy who practicly wanted me to wipe his ass for him as well? I thought I told you...your a big boy now...you can do that part yourself.

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Did you guys know that in Africa as opposed to this country, AIDS is largely a heterosexual disease?

What does that mean?

It means that the virus can be pinpointed....or at least its dissemination....to very SELECT audiences. In fact, in the early days of the AIDS catastrophe, certain groups of people were targeted to be the recipients of this virus. And at least in Africa, the whole thing was run by the World Health Organization.

However, in the United States there was something called "Operation Firm Hand" that was administered by the National Institute of Health and the Centers for Disease Control.

And for those of you wondering what "Operation Firm Hand" was all about....please allow me to spill the beans again.

You see, before 1978, there was no such thing as Aids in the United States. Then, in November of 1978, an experimental Hepatitis B vaccine was introduced to New York City. The word was put out that this free vaccine was available at a local blood bank headed by Dr. W. Szmuness.

Dr. W. Szmuness was a Polish doctor that immigrated to this country in 1969, and he later became the head of the New York City blood bank where the vaccine was administered. But what does a blood bank have to do with AIDS you might be asking? Well you see thats where the Hepatitis B vaccine was administered, but of course it wasn't given to just anyone. The participants had to fill out a detailed-questionnaire. But I'll get into that here in a second.

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Ok so in regards to the "questionnaires" that I was talking about, they were created for one group and one group only, and can you guys guess who it was? Gay, non-monogamous men between the ages of 20 and 40. Ring a bell? Another big rumor that was started was that Gay men created the Aids virus through their butt-f!cking. Well I'm here to tell every single one of you...thats another MAJOR LIE. Gay people have been arround for millennia, perhaps not in the public eye, but I guarantee you that AIDS was not around when the first two Gay people had sex with eachother.

So anyways...the blood bank wanted Gay men. And in all, they wanted between 1,040 and 1,083 gay men to be inoculated with this "vaccine". I feel very sorry for the men that signed up for this treatment, because they had no clue what they were getting themselves into.

You also have to remember what the times were back then. It was the late 1970's, and the concept of lethal sex disease hadn't even really been heard of. I mean for crying out loud, you had clubs like Studio 54, cocaine, and even gay bathhouses.

The fact is, people screwed like crazy back in those days. And then, in 1979 and 1980, these same "vaccination" programs were repeated in Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, St. Louis, and Denver. Now, if you take only the New York City men who participated in this program - approximately 1,000 of them - and figure they had 50 different sex partners over the next few years - what do you come up with? 50,000. Thats right. And say these 50,000 men had 50 different sex partners. What do you come up with? A quarter of a million. Now multiply 250,000 by all the other cities that I just mentioned, plus throw in all the junky intravenous drug users, and what do you get?

AN AIDS EPIDEMIC!

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Also, did you guys know that by 1984, the CDC did a report on the New York City men that received this inoculation, and they found that 64% of them had either contracted AIDS or had already died from it? Well it's true, and it's truly sickening.

After that, all of the sudden any further statistics mysteriously became "unavailable". I'll bet if they were found though, the number could be 100% just a few years later.

So think about this. If you drove up to the Centre Community Hospital and asked them, "If you had a vaccination program, say for the flu, and six years after it was administered 64% of the people that received it were infected with a lethal, incurable disease, what would you think?" They'd flip out.

Now I want you all to take this information and compare it to the Green Monkey theory or any other monkey theory for that matter. Which one seems more plausible when viewed in terms of an exponential explosion?

It's a downright crime!

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There is a researcher named Waves Fores who wrote an article called "Designer Diseases: AIDS as Biological and Psychological Warfare". At one point in this column he said, "Another indication that AIDS has multiple origin points is that the 14-month doubling time of the disease cannot nearly account for the current number of cases if we assume only a small number of initial infections starting in the late 1970's."

So people..isn't it clear here? This whole cover story about AIDS starting at one specific point is....Bullshi!

Thats right. Because a very organized effort was behind it. And by 1981, AIDS had become part of the popular consciousness. When it was never there before! At first, due to the nature of who it infected in this country, the disease was originally called "Gay Cancer". From 1979 to 1981, the scientific community labeled it GRID - Gay Related Immune Deficiency. That was actually the first official name for AIDS.



But to keep the timeline going....



In 1983, a New York Congressman named Theodore Weiss said:

"As far-fetched as it may seem, given the attitudes toward homosexuals and homosexuality by some segments of society, the possible utilization of biological weapons must be seriously considered."



Now that's a United States Congressman saying this! In 1984, then, the AIDS virus was officially "discovered" by Dr. Robert Gallo.

And people should know that there was even a newspaper article printed in the London Times on May 11, 1987 titled - "Smallpox Vaccine Triggered AIDS." Of course, not surprisingly, this information never filtered into the American mainstream media.

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Here are a few links:



Project MK: NAOMI

http://www.thc-ministry.org/wwwboard/messages/148.html

Dr. Donald MacArthur

http://www.konformist.com/1999/aids/manmade.txt

http://witewillo.homestead.com/files/Ai ... _Virus.htm

http://www.whale.to/m/scott7.html

H.B.15090

http://killtown.911review.org/aids.html

and World Health Bulletin Volume 47:257-63

http://www.israelect.com/reference/Will ... n/AIDS.htm

enjoy!

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The creation of AIDs was a Bilderberg-inspired project that utilized the Department of Defense in conjunction with the CIA's "Project MK-NAOMI" under the auspices of the World Health Organization. What these folks did was come up with a list of "undesirables" that needed to be eliminated. Can you guys guess who these "undesirables" were at that time? Blacks, Junkies, and Homosexuals. Oh and throw in a few Hispanics and Orientals, and you have a pretty good idea of who they found to be "undesirable".

Many of you might be thinking....wasn't there any other way?

Do you think these people care? Come on. The beauty of AIDS for them was that it accomplished their goal of population reduction by targeting specific racial and ethnic groups through bio-weaponry. Before AIDS, bio-weaponry was indiscriminate, killing at random. But once they came up with a more intelligent "Agent", it became much easier to target specific groups for elimination.

They could infect whoever they wanted to.

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TruthBringer wrote: The creation of AIDs was a Bilderberg-inspired project that utilized the Department of Defense in conjunction with the CIA's "Project MK-NAOMI" under the auspices of the World Health Organization.The problem with my injecting http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5012268.stm into the thread is that, of course, the BBC is in cahoots with the conspiracy. Once you take out everyone who monitors health from a position where they might detect the wrongdoing, and instead make them the villains, there's absolutely no test available to see whether the assertions are valid. In my book that makes all this very bad science.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5012268.stm even so.

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TruthBringer wrote: Also, did you guys know that by 1984, the CDC did a report on the New York City men that received this inoculation, and they found that 64% of them had either contracted AIDS or had already died from it? Well it's true, and it's truly sickening.I'd very much like to read this report, it sounds vitally important. Would you post a citation or reference or title or author or combination sufficiently unambiguous that I can locate a copy, please?

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Many people don't really understand still how exactly AIDS was created. They know that it WAS created. But they don't understand how.

Well, to start:

AIDS is a form of viral cancer that resulted from the combination of two retroviruses - a bovine lukemia virus and a sheep visna virus. If these two viruses are combined, and then injected into a Human culture, what you get is the first retrovirus known to Mankind.

There were two doctors. Robert Strecker, famous for his "Strecker Memorandum", and Alan Cantwell - who were curious about this virus, and so they punched the following words into their computer - bovine visna - and guess what it came up with? The computer spit out reams of information that described a virus which was IDENTICLE to the AIDS virus!

For example:

If you take the bovine visna virus and compare it with the AIDS virus, you will see that it has exactly the same morphology (shape), the exact same molecular weight, the same magnesium dependency; it has the ability to kill cells; it has the same T cell tropism (it attacks T cells); and it has the same exact characteristics in cattle that AIDS does in Humans. It also produces a disease in Cows, characterized by initial lymphomamply within a few weeks of initial infection, followed by the production of antibodies against that virus, and subsequently, 5-7 years later, the cow dies of a wasting disease - an immune deficiency.

AIDS is a horrible disease. Besides being Man-Made it also has the ability to spread extremely quickly. To transfer the disease, all you need is a highly concentrated exchange of bodily fluids between two people. One who is infected and one who isn't. And Bam....somebody's got AIDS. And yes, even just injecting a dirty needle into your arm gives you a much higher chance of contracting AIDS.

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Think of all the millions of people who have contracted AIDS over the years, and also how many died from it. Then, think of all the famous people who have lost their lives due to AIDS. They come from every walk of life. There are sports figures who have contracted it, people like Magic Johnson - there have been musicians like Freddy Mercury, Liberace, there have been movie stars like Rock Hudson, there have been artists like Robert Mapplethorpe, plus there have been dancers, theatre stars, and countless others.

AIDS has hit every group imaginable. Except for one of course. And guess which group that is? High ranking politicians and World leaders.

Now think about that for a second. Try and name one top-level politician who has ever died from AIDS. You can't do it, can you? And why do you think that is? Is it because they're so much more virtuous, monogamous, and faithful than everyone else in the World?

Think about all that for awhile. And then when you are done.....ask yourself this simple question. What are these Monsters doing to us?

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Now it's time to dab a little bit into FreeMasons and other Dark Societies. It's important that people understand that Secrecy is almost NEVER a good thing. And that one of Humanity's worst SINS is Secrecy. "Sins" meaning rebellion against the Father.

To keep secrets relating to knowledge from another Human Being is the same as keeping a secret from God! And God can see everything, so why would someone hide it from their fellow Brothers and Sisters?

FreeMason's fall into this category. They are HIDERS of Knowledge and not keepers of knowledge. It all boils down to Secrecy in the end. And Everything bad that goes along with it. IE. Jealousy. Greed. Envy. Ect. Secrecy likes to fit in with words like those. And for a good reason.

Anyways, before I get into the FreeMason's and such, first...let's examine just how many of our Presidents within the last 20 years have been FreeMasons. The results might end up shocking you.

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1977-1981 James E. Carter, 39th. President of the United States (D) Unknown Mason status. Was also a member of the Anti-American organization known as the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR). In 1978, The Club of Rome commissioned Cyrus Vance, Jimmy Carter's Secretary of State to write The Global 2000 Report. This is a Draconian plan to reduce the world's population by means of wars, famine, diseases, and plagues.

The HIV virus and the Aids epidemic became a part of this plan. They also commissioned Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carters National Security Advisor, (who also with David Rockefeller formed The Trilateral Commission in 1973), to write The Technetronic Era.

This is a post-industrial zero growth plan designed in part to cripple U.S. industry in order to prepare us for the New World Order. Vice President Walter Mondale 1977-1981. Confirmed Illuminati puppet, of Orville Freeman of the Satanic Illuminati. (Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Bloodlines) Walter Mondale later enjoyed the status of being the only U.S. Senator on the Trilateral Commission.

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1981-1989 Ronald Reagan, 40th. President of the United States (R) Confirmed Mason. (New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies, William T. Still, pg. 21) Vice President George Bush,1981-1989. Confirmed Mason. The President of the United States of America, under the ‘Emigration Control Act of 1986’, Section 100, has the authority to deem whatever type of identification is necessary ” whether it be an invisible tattoo or electronic media under the skin.

The Microchip and the Mark of the Beast Writer Roger Morris (author of "Partners In Power") and Sally Denton wrote a well-researched article entitled The Crimes of Mena This story, based on Barry Seal's surviving records, had been fact checked and cleared for publication by the legal staff of the Washington Post, when it was suddenly spiked without explanation by Managing Editor Bob Kaiser, a fellow Skull & Bones alumni with ex CIA chief George Bush.

Note: Eleanor Roosevelt (who was involved in numerous communist organizations and was an actual card carrying member of the American communist party) was a close friend and confidant to Ronald Reagan's mother. (Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Bloodlines) Reagan was also a member of the all-male ultra-exclusive Bohemian Club to which every Republican President since Herbert Hoover has belonged.

Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and Secretary of State George Schultz were both former executives with Bechtel.

Note: 1980s under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush the U.S. government knowingly gave direct aid to genocidal campaigns that killed tens of thousands of Native American Indian people in Guatemala and elsewhere. The pattern holds. (For example, see Mireya Navarro, "Guatemalan Army Waged 'Genocide,' New Report Finds," NEW YORK TIMES February 26, 1999,.

The TIMES described "torture, kidnapping and execution of thousands of civilians" -- most of them Indians -- a campaign to which the U.S. government contributed "money and training." See http://www.nytimes.com/ Descriptor terms: Columbus; native people, U.S.; genocide; Spain; England; Indian policy;

Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our government”Ronald Reagan. Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles. The Black Pope

See also. Ronald Reagan's Obsession With An Alien Invasion

Note: Gen. Earl Wheeler (Illuminati Family) and his brother Leo Wheeler, a Grande Master of the Illuminati are secret Satanists and also 33° Freemasons. Leo Wheeler, by virtue of his Grande Master status in the satanic hierarchy has been able to visit the Dulce, New Mexico underground facility.

The route he used was to fly in, and then the last stretch is done in a black limousine. Various people in the Dulce area have occasionally spotted these VIP black limousines. The Wheeler family has a long history of involvement with Satanism, and its genealogical history goes back to the House of David.

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1989-1993 George H. W. Bush, 41st. President of the United States (R) Confirmed Mason. Also a Skull & Bones member, and of the Anti-American organization known as the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), and The Trilateral Commission.

Ex Director of the CIA. George Bush is a recent member of The Order Of The Garter (which is the core leader of The Committee of 300) Bush was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II who is the leader of the Order of The Garter, on December 20, 1993, as a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath.

This was for his leadership in the Gulf War, when he sent American solders to die for England's interest of their petroleum in Kuwait. General Colin Powell and General Norman Schwarzkopf were given also lower order of knighthoods. Was also a member of the all-male ultra-exclusive Bohemian Club to which every Republican President since Herbert Hoover has belonged. Secret Societies, Bohemian Club Vice President James D. Quayle III. The Order of Skull and Bones * The Bush Body Count

(The Masonic imperialism of the Franklin Pierce administration lives on as the romantic, elite legend of the Eastern Establishment. They celebrate that legend in the marriage of President Pierce's blood relative Barbara Pierce to George Bush, whose imperial ideas are rooted in the events of the 1850s.) The Scottish Rite's KKK Project

Documents exist showing the Bush family is directly in business with the Queen of England through her bank, Coutts Bank, London. [See our prior series, Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush.] Since the War of 1812, the British have vowed to take back this continent as a British puppet colony. William Rockefeller Clinton was sent by the Rhodes Trust to be educated at Oxford.

The Elder Bush, many do not know, for the decade of the 1980s, was the PRIVATE business partner of Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman. Together, they shared billions and billions of dollars of kick-backs and "protection" funds, from the weak oil sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf. A little known Chicago federal lawsuit was brought, in October, 1990, during the lead-up to the shooting war, to keep concealed the related bank records showing the clandestine partnership.

Writer Roger Morris (author of "Partners In Power") and Sally Denton wrote a well-researched article entitled The Crimes of Mena This story, based on Barry Seal's surviving records, had been fact checked and cleared for publication by the legal staff of the Washington Post, when it was suddenly spiked without explanation by Managing Editor Bob Kaiser, a fellow Skull & Bones alumni with ex CIA chief George Bush.

In August, 1990, President George Bush announced that the world had now entered into a New World Order. Shockingly President Bush is an adept in an American Brotherhood of Death Society, the Yale Skull and Bones Society. As we stated earlier, Bush's New World Order is virtually identical with Hitler's; the key connecting point is the common membership in their respective Brotherhood of Death Societies (Bill Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81; plus Anthony Sutton, Introduction To The Order, p.7). SATANIC ACTIVITIES OF SECRET SOCIETIES.

U.S. President Bush and Soviet President Gorbachev arrived yesterday on this Mediterranean island for a summit conference beginning today during which both hope to start the search for a New World Order." - New York Times December 1, 1989

"What I found at the PIT plant was very heinous. I found that a strain of hydrogen cyanide called Prussian Blue was being tested on gas mask filters more than 1 year prior to the Persian Gulf War. This information was known to the President of the United States, George Bush. It was arranged through Trevor Armbrister, a CIA asset and a Senior Editor of Reader's Digest, to fly me to the steps of the White House. Time does not permit me to tell my story, but the information that I want to get out to the American people is that the Gulf War illnesses are actually communicable diseases."

"The microbes will live almost indefinitely, but for a minimum of seven years. It's on the gas masks, the clothing, the weapons -- any of the materials brought back from the Gulf War. I have reports from several different states where civilians that bought some of the clothing went home and wore them, and now the entire family is in wheel chairs; there have been some deaths as a result of this."

It is no small coincidence that George Bush and James Baker, as well as others, were stockholders in the very same biotechnology companies that were responsible for the biowarfare weapons used in the Gulf that caused this worldwide plague to begin, is it? The Resnick Interview with Peter Kawaja

Note: (George Bush's father) lost all his money in the 1929 stock market crash, the Harriman's again came to financially help Prescott Bush back on his feet. During the 1920s, the W. Averell Harriman, Prescott Bush, Fritz Thyssen and Friedrich Flick created several entitles to help finance Hitler and to produce the weapons Hitler would need to fight W.W. II..

One of these companies was the German Steel Trust (in German called Vereinigte Stahlwerke. This company produced 35% of Nazi Germany’s explosives, 50.8% of Germany's pig iron, 38.5% of Nazi Germany's galvanized steel, 36% of Germany's heavy plate, 22.1 % of Germany's wire, and many other things essential for Hitler, if it had not been Harriman, and Bush’s money helping Thyssen who was Hitler's major backer, Hitler would never had been able to have launched W.W. II. Thyssen even wrote a book in 1930. I paid Hitler (now rare) telling about how he financed Hitler and the Nazis beginning in Oct. 1923. Hitler was of the Rothschild bloodline.

1990, April 14. New York Times quotes George Bush as stating, "Lets forgive the Nazi war criminals."

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1993-2000 William J. Clinton, 42nd. President of the United States (D) Confirmed Mason. Clinton, A Rhodes Scholar, a CFR member, a Trilateral Commission member and a Bilderberger participant.

He joined the Council on Foreign Relations in 1989, attended a Bilderberg meeting in 1991 and was a current member of the Trilateral Commission at the time of his nomination. Pam Harriman is the person behind Bill Clinton. She is tied in with the Collins of the satanic group Hell Fire Club. Wife Hillary is known to practice Shamanism witchcraft. (Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Bloodlines) Vice President Al Gore 1993-2000. Confirmed Mason. Bill Clintons Criminal Background

... President Clinton is a Bilderberger, a Senior DeMolay (Freemason), and a member of both the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

A picture exists, made by an undercover team of the Drug Enforcement Administration, showing George W. Bush snorting cocaine with his buddy William Rockefeller Clinton. You have been asleep, if you did not know that Clinton and the Bush family are cronies and get together at old man Bush's mansion in Kennebunkport, Maine. The picture has long been suppressed although in the possession of top news people of the major news networks. The Gore campaign reportedly has for some time had the picture. http://www.rense.com/general5/elect.htm

Writer Roger Morris (author of "Partners In Power") and Sally Denton wrote a well-researched article entitled The Crimes of Mena This story, based on Barry Seal's surviving , had been fact checked and cleared for publication by the legal staff of the Washington Post, when it was suddenly explanation by Managing Editor Bob Kaiser, a fellow Skull & Bones alumni with ex CIA chief George Bush. Clinton is responsible for the following executive orders:

13010: This Executive order is entitled Critical Infrastructure Protection. It established a commission made up of history of the United States when an emergency is declared. This commission includes the heads of:

1. The Department of the Treasury. 2. The Department of Justice. 3. The Department of Defense. 4. The Department of Commerce. 5. The Department of Transportation. 6. The Department of Energy. 7. The CIA.

8. The FBI. 9. FEMA

Federal Register - Executive Orders - William J. Clinton

A Quote to Remember: "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, time and time again, and betrayed their trust. He is no longer an effective leader. Since he has admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out his term; the only possible solution is for the president to save some dignity and resign." Bill Clinton, 1974, commenting on Richard Nixon.

If you go into the president’s office at Georgetown, you will see a picture of Bill Clinton, kneeling at the grave of Timothy Healy [past president of Georgetown], while the present president, Donovan, who is on the Walt Disney Board, is standing behind him.

Bill Clinton chose Patsy Thomasson - top lieutenant of convicted cocaine dealer Dan Lasater - to be his White House chief of personnel. English Reporter Reveals Depth of Media and Government Treachery

In September of 1996, President Clinton signed into law, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Buried at approximately page 650 of the new national Defense Bill, also known as Public Law 104-208, Part B, Title IV, the American public was given a national ID card.

With no fanfare, no publicity and no scrutiny, the bill easily avoided the watchful eyes of even its most aggressive opponents. National ID Card Is Now Federal Law and Georgia Wants To Help Lead the Way The national ID became law in 1996 and will go in effect October 1, 2000, unless Congress repeals Section 656 (b) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. If the law is not changed, every state must meet certain unfunded federal mandates requiring the use of Social Security numbers, fingerprints, DNA, retina scans, and other "biometric" identifying information on all driver's licenses. Money Withheld for National I.D. Card

President Clinton and wife Hillary ordered the deaths of the Branch Dravidians. Military Unit Responsible at Waco

President Clinton, is "the most blood thirsty draft dodger in history." New World Order

"By using the LEO satellites," he described, "you can disrupt the computers. You can stop that electronic ignition. It's all electronically based. You can interfere with it and stop it dead in it's tracks." Tomlin is risking legal action by the Pentagon for revealing top secret information. That's a risk he says he is willing to take because of the danger he believes has been caused by an out-of-control president.

"The decisions he's making right now are totally illogical and irresponsible," said Tomlin about his concerns regarding Clinton. "Looking at the power and everything he's got at his finger tips. That's a dangerous situation for a spastic individual." Tomlin has maintained silence about the top secret program for many years, but now he feels compelled to speak out. Clinton's Secret War Games

WE SHALL RAISE THE RATE OF WAGES WHICH, HOWEVER, WILL NOT BRING ANY ADVANTAGE TO THE WORKERS, FOR, AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHALL PRODUCE A RISE IN PRICES OF THE FIRST NECESSARIES OF LIFE, ALLEGING THAT IT ARISES FROM THE DECLINE OF AGRICULTURE AND CATTLE-BREEDING: WE SHALL FURTHER UNDERMINE ARTFULLY AND DEEPLY SOURCES OF PRODUCTION, BY ACCUSTOMING THE WORKERS TO ANARCHY AND TO DRUNKENNESS AND SIDE BY SIDE THEREWITH TAKING ALL MEASURE TO EXTIRPATE FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH ALL THE EDUCATED FORCES OF THE "GOYIM." The Illuminati Protocols

Update Note: A common practice among the top 13 Illuminati families is to have an important child secretly or quietly without fanfare, and adopt the child out to another family. The child then takes on another last name, which hides the genealogy, in the occult ceremonies, the biological parents will step forward. For instance, for Mothers of Darkness the biological father must impregnate the young daughter who is being initiated into the Mothers of Darkness. The first baby by the girl must come from her biological father and must be sacrificed by her to Satan. Many of the Illuminati children are adopted out, (in fact our President Clinton was). (Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Bloodlines)

Bill Clinton's chief campaign advisor James Carville is pictured ( in People's Magazine. p.50 ) wearing a pentagram in the middle of his forehead. Bill Clinton in his inaugural speech said, "This ceremony is held in the depth of winter. But, by the words we speak and the faces we show the world, we force the spring.

Clinton repeated the words "we force the spring" later in the speech. That expression is a very unusual expression. To "force the spring" is witchcraft language in witchcraft and Satanism. Lucifer (Baal) rises from the underworld on May 1st (also known by the following list of names Beltaine, a major European holiday, Communism and the Illuminati's chief holiday, and Walpurgis).

The May 1st rising brings forth the season of fertility, which the witches each year take credit for, by claiming that their magic rituals "force the spring." The ritual magic that "forces the spring" is done on 3 Sabbats-the first is Imbolg (also known by names: Candiemas by the Catholics and Ground Hog Day by common dupes); the second is the vernal equinox (Mar. 20) in which blood and sex rituals are carried out and the third is Beltaine (May 1) in which fire festivals are done. This is one of the fire festivals which people around the United States say that they have witnessed from a distance. Witches believe that on May 1st, the female force completes her takeover from the male force.

In order for the female to overtake the male force, Clinton chose the position of Attorney General. The title "General" has a male connotation. All the rest of the cabinet members are called Secretaries which has a female connotation.

The Attorney General position was to be given to a woman. But in order for the witchcraft ceremony and timing to be right, the woman couldn't take over until after Feb. 2, or Imbolg and there had to be 3 female candidates, from which one is traditionally picked by a witchcraft coven. This is why the selection of the Attorney General was not confirmed until Feb. 2. And sure enough all three candidates given by Bill Clinton were women, from which one was selected.

Bill Clinton did indeed "force the spring"! Further, Clinton told us HOW he would "force the spring" in his inaugural speech. On the 666th word of his inauguration speech, Clinton launched into a sentence on sacrifice, "it will not be easy; it will require sacrifice. But it can be done, and done fairly, not choosing sacrifice for Its own sake, but for our own sake." Clinton gave the hand signal of Satanists at the end of his speech. And Newsweek Magazine headlined its story "New Age President Takes Office." (Jan. 25, 93) That Clinton would consider his Cabinet a coven is not so far fetched.

Most of his cabinet tie in closely with the Illuminati. The Council on Foreign Relations is an upper level of the visible arm of the Illuminati. The Jan. 93 newsletter explained that the CFR was the equivalent of the 4° of the Bavarian Illuminati. Note, that many of these people do not realize the full Satanic implications of what they are in. If one reviews the various levels of the Bavarian Illuminati, you will realize that the process of corruption was gradual, and that the lower levels had no idea what they were really involved in, although some probably suspected what they were into.

The basic ingredient of the lower levels is loyalty to their superiors, because they believe they are in the elite's organization. Consider, Clinton and his cabinet: Slick Willie Clinton ” CFR TC (Trilateral Commission), Bldrbgr (Bilderberger participant), participant in various Illuminati front organizations such as DLC, Rhodes Scholar, wife Hillary is known to practice shamanism witchcraft. (Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Bloodlines)

Note: Attorney General Janet Reno murderer of innocent people at Waco, TX. The people at Waco believed that they were the true Jews and flew the Jewish flag at Waco, notice that Reno who is Jewish and was on the board of directors of the Jewish Illuminati Terrorist organization of the Anti-Defamation League could not stand the idea of Christians believing that they are the true Jews. See Janet Reno's quote on cults. Cultist Definition by Janet Reno, Attorney General USA

The president’s wife, Hillary Clinton, has been said to channel the spirits of the dead.

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December 13, 2000 - George Bush Jr. Becomes the 43rd President of the United States. Confirmed member Skull and Bones. George W. Admits to being a Member of The Skull and Bones to Time Magazine Also a member of the Council On Foreign Relations. Confirmed Mason. Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne -- including the King of Albania -- and has kinship with every member of Britain's royal family, the House of Windsor.

He is a 13th cousin of Britain's Queen Mother, and of her daughter Queen Elizabeth and is a 13th cousin once removed of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles. Bush's family tree can be documented as far back as the early 15th century. He has a direct descent from Henry III and from Henry VIII's sister Mary Tudor, who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. He is also descended from Charles II of England.

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George W. Bush's Interview With Time Magazine



"My Heritage Is Part of Who I Am" In conversation, Bush exudes both a folksy confidence and an eagerness to charm. In a recent 90-minute talk with managing editor Walter Isaacson, he discussed how his family affected his career. Posted July 30, 2000 4:15 p.m. ET From TIME magazine

TIME: You once said that to understand people you have to look at their family.

Bush: You look at his family and where he was raised.

TIME: So let's start with your grandfather Prescott Bush. He was a patrician Connecticut banker and Senator, part of the old-line Yankee Wasp establishment.

Bush: He was big, a very dignified person. When we went to dinner at his house, we wore a tie. I never wore a tie, only to church, barely. My dad would talk about my grandfather's lesson” before you enter public service you go out and make some money and take care of your family. But my grandfather believed money wasn't how you measured your life. If you had money it came with an obligation to serve. He once said that the most important thing a person could do was public service.

TIME: Your father seemed torn between being a scion of this New England gentry and being the Texan that he cast himself as.

Bush: Someone once said of my dad that he got to Texas a little too late in life, he was already well bred. That wasn't the case with me!

TIME: But isn't there some of that old-line establishment blood left in you?

Bush: Not really. I'm not inhibited by class lines. I can meet and get comfortable with anyone. In fact, I really never noticed that social elite structure.

TIME: Never?

Bush: Well, I became aware, I guess, of some of this structure. But I didn't spend much time thinking about it. My grandparents were not” they lived that life in Hobe Sound and Greenwich” but they were humble people.

TIME: Humble?

Bush: I found them to be humble.

TIME: When did you decide to distance yourself from this background?

Bush: I don't know if it was a conscious decision. It's a world apart. Greenwich to Midland. I often say of the difference between me and Dad is that he went to Greenwich Country Day and I went to San Jacinto Junior High. In Midland there was no class structure.

TIME: But you sure shared a lot of the same upbringing: Andover, Yale, even Skull and Bones. Did you have any qualms, say, about joining an elite secret club like Bones?

Bush: No qualms at all. I was honored. I was fairly nonchalant. I didn't view it as a great heritage thing. I didn't take it all that seriously.

TIME: Demystify it a bit for those who might think it's a cross between a Masonic Lodge and the Trilateral Commission. Did your father show up for your initiation, like your grandfather showed up for his?

Bush: Without revealing all the great secrets? I got a few of my old club mates who could demystify it right off the bat. My dad didn't tap me. Someone a year ahead of me tapped me. There was an entry celebration. I can't remember whether my dad showed up or not. I don't think so.

TIME: What was the most important thing about your family legacy?

Bush: The unconditional love I got from my family liberated me. It gave me a sense of security. We were all at a church in Maine recently and the preacher asked whether anyone in the congregation had a perfect family, and the only hand that went up without hesitation was Dad's. It helped Jeb and me not be afraid of defeat.

TIME: Your family legacy surely also pushed you into politics?

Bush: Yes, my heritage is part of who I am, and that certainly included politics. But my dad didn't take me in the backyard and hit a tackling dummy to make me a great tackler, and he also didn't do things to try to make me a politician.

TIME: When did you decide you wanted to go into politics?

Bush: I've been searching my mind for that because people keep questioning that. Up to age 18 never much. I was never a member of the Young Republican Club on campus. I was apolitical. My interest in politics was the result of carrying signs for Dad. I love campaigns. My decision to run came from being concerned about what was happening. In 1978, I was concerned about things like the natural-gas regulation, so I ran for Congress. I ran for Governor because I was concerned about what was happening to education. It took sparks like that to get me to run, not just that it was expected of me.

TIME: But surely it was also because it was bred into your bones?

Bush: I don't know. That's an interesting question. Perhaps. I didn't have this life plan. I wasn't trying to turn the DKE presidency into a political career. I didn't know what I wanted to be, and I tried a variety of different things, like working in the oil industry, in campaigns, in a poverty program. You don't have to go into politics to complete a legacy.

TIME: Some say you got more from your mother than your father.

Bush: Yes, I'm more like my mom sometimes. I'm quick with a quip. Dad gives me advice when I ask him for it, my mom when I don't. She can be blunt, like me. She says what she wants. My dad's always gracious.

TIME: You were elected Governor in 1994, the year your brother Jeb lost the Florida Governor's race. How did your family feel?

Bush: On the morning of my inauguration, my mother hands me this letter from Dad with a pair of his cufflinks. He called them his most treasured possession. They were the cufflinks his dad gave to him when he went off to war in 1943. At first I didn't think about the continuity, the grandfather part. A lot was going on. The main thing I thought was that it was from my dad. He was saying he was proud of me. But later I reread the letter and thought about it. It ended with, "Now it's your turn." It was a powerful moment.

TIME: That day your father told the press, "Our heads are in Texas, but our heart is in Florida." What do you think Jeb was feeling?

Bush: I remember at the inauguration Dad wiping a tear from his face and Jeb standing behind me looking pensive. He was the one supposed to win. I'm not sure what he was thinking. I suspect he thought about what might have been, what went wrong. And he doubled his thoughts about running again. Made up his mind he would have his own inaugural, and he did four years later. And he wasn't bitter or sour, because getting up after a loss and realizing that life goes on is part of the legacy we share. The same thing happened to me in my first race, and to my dad, and to my grandfather. I know Jeb well. He's a loving soul. It made him better, more determined to win next time. He converted to Catholicism, started an inner-city school in Miami, didn't let defeat keep him down.

TIME: How is Jeb different from you?

Bush: Taller! Well, we come from the same place. The same sense of love. But Jeb expresses himself differently. He's very sensitive. Quieter than me. We're both tough, but him in a different way. I'm quick with the quip, kind of sharp. Jeb tends to seem softer around the edges, but he's very smart and capable and beloved.

TIME: Didn't your mother consider Jeb the more natural politician?

Bush: I'm not sure. He's a good campaigner. I watched him work a strawberry festival with me, and I was proud. He worked it very hard and shook all the hands and was comfortable. People know whether you're comfortable with them. My mother can walk into a room and quiet everyone's nerves. She can relate. So can I. I like watching Jeb do that too.

TIME: Do you all ever discuss policy or politics?

Bush: Sometimes. Not often. Jeb's an e-mail person. He'll e-mail me ideas, forward me things. I don't initiate e-mail, and I keep my address secret, but I respond on e-mail, especially to him. He e-mailed me some thoughts on Elian Gonzalez. He counseled me early on about Mexico. He urged me to move beyond the normal business relationship and into the more cultural relationship.

TIME: If he had won first, would he be in your shoes now?

Bush: Probably. A little hard to tell.

TIME: Would that bother you?

Bush: Wouldn't bother me in the least. You play the hand you're dealt.

TIME: Do you think the Bush name helped get you where you are in politics?

Bush: It cuts both ways. Some folks will say, there's George and Barbara's son, he must be interesting, let me listen. Others may say he's not done anything in his life, just running on his daddy's name. It's a mixed blessing ... Well, to me it's not a mixed blessing. It's a great blessing to be raised by George and Barbara Bush. TIME: Do you hate the word dynasty?

Bush: No, don't hate it. But it's not really true. Dynasty means something inherited. Both Jeb and I know you don't inherit a vote. You have to win a vote. We inherited a good name, but you don't inherit a vote.

TIME: Your father once said of the Kennedys, wait until my boys get out there. How does your family compare to theirs?

Bush: I admired the Kennedy brothers. They set a tone. They were very powerful figures and built a legacy. Ted Kennedy, I know he's anathema to conservatives, but he's in the Senate serving and very professional.

TIME: One thing you seem to share with your mother is that sometimes you carry a grudge.

Bush: Yeah, I remember some things, like anyone else. I remember. But I don't go out of my way to seek revenge. In 1992, I got some things off my chest. I was a warrior for my dad. But I'm a pretty forgiving person. To be a successful Governor, I had to have been.

TIME: You sometimes seem deliberately anti-intellectual.

Bush: I know it comes across that way. I don't think it's fair. How can you say I'm an anti-intellectual when I'm sitting next to [former Stanford provost and Russia expert] Condoleeza Rice on a regular basis? This will be an administration of people well suited to their jobs. I am secure enough that I want smart people around me. I made the leap from Texas schools to Andover, where a couple of people got dual 800s on their SATs. I'm comfortable with people who have high intellects.

TIME: You're saying you downplay your intellectual side?

Bush: It may have been. We're all sums of our experience. Kent Hance [who beat Bush for Congress in 1978] gave me a lesson on country-boy politics. He was a master at it, funny and belittling. I vowed never to get out-countried again.

TIME: So how do you assure folks you're smart enough to be President?

Bush: I'm confident of my intellect. I wouldn't be running if I wasn't. My job will not be to out-think everybody in my administration. My job will be to assemble an administration full of very capable and bright people.

TIME: What Presidents have done that well?

Bush: Reagan and Bush did a good job. Reagan had a very successful presidency because of his team. So did my dad. The foreign policy team of Cheney, Powell, Baker, Scowcroft. I also happen to like” I forgot what President it was” who liked to keep antenna out to other people. Roosevelt maybe.

TIME: Like Lyndon Johnson? He had the best and the brightest.

Bush: Well, no, there's a difference between having really smart people around and making right decisions. People also have to be confident of my judgment. They need to hear my speeches and get a sense of where I want to take this country.

TIME: But you talk about getting the smartest people to tell you what to do ...

Bush: No, no, no. Not tell me what to do. Make recommendations. Plus, I'm not going to have a group of people who say the same thing.

TIME: So what happens when they disagree?

Bush: These people don't decide for me. I'm going to have to decide. I will overrule my advisers. I've done that before. People are going to have to hear my explanations of why I make decisions. They'll hear the rationales and they'll have to make up their minds whether I'm the kind of person who decides upon a set of principles or am I going to keep changing my principles based on the political whims of the day. And that's my problem with the current administration, and that's my problem with who I'm running against. They keep changing based on politics. My job is to get good thinkers and get the best out of them.

TIME: With the failure of the missile-defense test, are you still convinced we should move quickly to build a defensive shield?

Bush: Yes, we need to move ahead. I hope I can convince Mr. Putin and the Europeans. I talked to [Russian Foreign Minister Igor] Ivanov about it, and I talked to him point-blank. You'd have been proud of me. I said here we are still trying to get out of a cold war mind-set. Please tell Mr. Putin I am willing to think differently. I noticed his rhetoric began to change a little. He began to talk about the most effective missile defense being the one that can detect and destroy on launch. And he talked about the new threats of outlaw nations, those are his words.

TIME: Why do you think your father lost in 1992?

Bush: It was a death of a thousand cuts, and it took a thousand to defeat him. He couldn't get his base intact. And the cause of that was breaking the "read my lips" tax pledge.

TIME: But didn't his compromise on taxes help set groundwork for the recovery?

Bush: Some economists say it helped. I think the lesson is not to give a Shermanesque pledge during a campaign.

TIME: But having made it, was he right to compromise later?

Bush: I would have advised him not to have done it, as political advice.

TIME: But that's making a policy for political reasons.

Bush: As I said, that would have been my political advice. His change opened things to Patrick J. Buchanan. There were other reasons he lost. Perot. Third, there was the beginning of a generational change. Fourth, he did not wisely spend political capital earned from Desert Storm on domestic politics, so he got painted as out of touch. Fifth, his campaign wasn't designed well. And part of the reason he lost was history. He was at the end of a very long run.

TIME: Your father said in a recent interview that it was mainly the forces of history, and that these forces were now going to help you. Were you upset he didn't give more weight to your own attributes?

Bush: I wasn't mad. He was being modest. He wasn't going to be bragging on his son. It's part of the family heritage. He's a little gun-shy to be bragging about me because he doesn't want somehow the critics to be saying, there he is, promoting his son.

TIME: You stress that you are a "new kind of Republican." How is that different from the old type?

Bush: The old types were viewed, fairly or not, as being against things. Our party kind of slipped into not being for things. Education is an example. We were viewed as being against public schools. Perception became reality in this case.

TIME: Does that apply to Reagan? Your father?

Bush: Listen, I'm not dealing in history, I'm dealing in the short term. I'm talking about how Republicans have been defined by a politically deft President. I'm faced with perceptions that Republicans don't care about newly arrived immigrants. I do care about them.

TIME: So you're talking about the congressional Republicans?

Bush: You're trying to get me to name names. I'm not. I'm going to have to be working with these folks.

TIME: What are your feelings about affirmative action?

Bush: The best thing to do is to educate every child and to challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations. We can have affirmative programs that enhance people's chance to access the middle class without quotas and without pitting race against race. We were the first state to put a rule in place that the top 10% of each high school class could go to a state university. I call it affirmative access. This is going to enhance the ability of state universities to attract minorities. The pool of applicants must be increased for small-business ownership. I don't mind measuring, I don't mind a scorecard that says, "Whoa, why is every contract going to white firms?" But you can do it without quotas.

TIME: Do you think you benefited by a different, older version of affirmative action, an old-boy's network, when you got into college and went into business?

Bush: I don't know. Maybe. And yes, racism exists. I'm not going to be making policy based on guilt. The fundamental question in certain neighborhoods is, how do we break a sense that the system isn't meant for me? You need mentoring programs. Part of it has to do with there isn't the entrepreneurial system being passed from one generation to the next.

TIME: The way it was passed from your grandfather to your father to you?

Bush: No question. I learned at the knee of a good father.



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Here is the full front page about the interview with Bush. Again this was taken directly from the Time Magazine website.

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040906/ <--- Time Magazine's interview with Bush.

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Obviously my goal is to point out that we have had this strange secret society called Masons before any college fraternity had ever been created. Before any college had ever existed. Before the United States had ever existed.

And our first President was a Mason. And the people who wrote the laws of the constitution were Masons. And our President in office right now is a Mason. And the British have their own sects of Masons. And the majority of people in High Power positions are Masons. And their ancestors were Masons. And their ancestors ancestors were Masons.

And so I say to myself, what the hell is going on here? Many of the presidents wives were Masons. Their family blood have been Masons. They married a Mason. Then those Masons had children who would become future Masons.

So what I am saying is this. I am not a Mason. Many of the people in this country (who are being controlled without really knowing it) are not Masons. But the higher up Masons are rich, they are in power, they help to control the country, they have ties to the illuminati, they have been known to worship Lucifer (The dark angel) and they have killed people in the past for rubbing the wrong way with them. Presidents have been killed in the past for this same exact reason. And the majority of the people who killed them were Masons!

So I don't understand how people can just sit back and say, "Whats the big deal? Masons help to control our country? So what. Who cares. Let's go play some pool."

I mean I'm sorry but I am not going to just sit back here with all these coincidences (there is no such thing as coincidence) going on and pretend like everything is a bowl of cherries. It's not a good thing that these people are in power and until we no longer have the same government structure that we have today we may never be able to remove them from it.

Only when we no longer have a single president who can become a puppet for the Masons and do whatever they want him to do will we finally be able to get our true freedom back. Lets see, 2004 we voted for nothing but Masons, once again, because they were the only ones on the ticket.

And Masons are brothers in a brotherhood. That comes before their presidency trust me. If you think that Bush and Kerry really had any hostility towards eachother at all you are wrong. Sure they were both going after the same position, but all along they were "playing politics" and they both knew that whoever lost it wouldn't even matter because they were both Masons and so they knew that they couldn't lose either way.

And lastly, just because of the fact that Presidents are chosen by their bloodline and not by the people who think they are electing them because of their credentials and principles is kind of scary. They have us all fooled at the moment.

If you look at how many presidents have been related it's not even funny. When I say they are chosen by their bloodline I am not kidding. The kids are born, and they are prepared from day 1 by the Masons to be president. They don't come out of kindergarden and say, I'm gonna be the President of the USA when I get older! No, they are chosen by the Masons, because their whole family is made up of Masons, and then they are guided along the path until they finally take their pre-ordained position as the leader.

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So I guess the real question is, which Mason are you voting for in 2008? What you say? I don't want to vote for a Mason. Well guess what, you have no choice if you want to vote. If you vote at all, you will be voting for a Mason. Because they and other secret societies practicly run this fricken country! Hell, at the moment, they are attempting to run the whole world!

Wake up! Don't cast your vote for these people! They are wicked beyond words. It doesn't matter who you vote for, because the system is rigged! Only Masons can get elected. This has been the case for the past 20 years! It's sick. And it needs to stop! I'm not voting for **** in 2008 I'll tell you that much. Although if everything pans out correctly, Hillary Clinton has already won! Because they will use the woman card to make her more appealing and gain the sympathy of the World! They are scheming to put her in office. Think about it, shes too closely tied with the Bush family.

And the worst part is, even if I am wrong and she doesn't win, Another Mason will! So they win everytime. Come on people, after all the proof I have just provided here, how can you deny that the Masons have been running this country since it's roots? Many of us are so brainwashed by their media and other teqniques that we don't even realize it! Well thats not gonna be the case with me anymore. I'm done being brainwashed. I see the bigger picture. And hopefully now you guys will too!

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Before I get further into the FreeMasons let me provide some important quotes that might peek some of your guys interests:



Hegel:

"History tells us that man learns nothing from History".



Franklin Delano Roosevelt:

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet that it was planned that way."



Jeffrey Baker, Author of a book on FreeMasons:

"Unfortunately for America, the Princes have well-insulated themselves from mass exposure to the public at large through control of the propaganda that we call news. I do not believe that Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, or Peter Jennings are maniacal men with evil intent. They are, if you will, utopian dreamers so enamored with their own intelligence that they are blinded by their own "illumination", and professing themselves to be wise, they become utter fools."



Manley P. Hall (famed Masonic writer who says that the legend of Atlantis is central to the teachings and philosophies of ALL secret societies):

"Freemasonry is a shadow of the great Atlantean Mystery School which stood with all it's splendor in the ancient City of the Golden Gates where now the turbulent Atlantic rolls in unbroken sweep."



Ignatius Donnely (noted Atlantis authority - in 1822 - when comparing the Great Flood story from the Bible to the destruction of Atlantis, he says that the two are the same event):

"The deluge plainly refers to the destruction of Atlantis and that it agrees in many particulars with the account given by Plato. The people destroyed were, in both instances, the ancient race that had created civilization; they had formerly been in a happy and "sinless" condition; they had become great and wicked; they were destroyed for their "sins" - they were destroyed by water."



William Still (New World Order):

"Information about Atlantis is still possessed by the highest initiates of the secret societies."

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Manley P. Hall (The Secret Destiny of America):

"Plato wrote about Atlantis in 400 B.C., and his information was taken from accounts given by Solon, who was the father of Greek democracy. Solon learned about Atlantis by studying with priests in the Temple of Isis in Sais, Egypt. In 595 B.C., these priests took Solon to an underground cave where the Nile flowed. There they got on a boat and sailed to an island where they saw artifacts that were left by the "Lost People". In the remains of this society, they found laws that were inscribed on columns that were intended to guide mankind. This information became the basis for the secret societies and mystery religions that ensured."



Albert Pike (Who was the Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Freemasonry from 1859-1891, wrote in a letter to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World in July 14, 1889):

"That which we must say to the crowd is we worship God. But it is the God that one adores without superstition. You may repeat it to the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees -- the Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (Yahweh) and his priests calumniate him?"



Manly P. Hall (The Lost Keys of Freemasonry):

"When the Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of the living power, he has learned the mystery of the Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy."

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William Shnoebelen (Masonry beyond the Light):

"Set (Lucifer) is the acknowledged god of Masonry."



Edith Starr Miller (The Occult Theocrasy, 1933):

"The real masonry of the Cabalistic degrees which is in touch with all secret societies, Masonic as well as non-Masonic, have been able to state that Luciferian Occultism controls Freemasonry."



Ralph Epperson (The New World Order):

"The Masons know that they must conceal their horrible secret from the people. That secret is simply the fact that certain of their members worship Lucifer."

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Eliphas Levi - (Cabalist, Magician - The Book of Splendors):

"Satan is not the ruler of the realm of shadows, he is the agent of light behind a veil. He is of service to God, he performs God's work: God has not rejected him, for he holds him still in his hand....what is the Devil, then, in the final analysis? The Devil is God working evil."



William Guy Carr (One time Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy, on Albert Pike):

"While Pike was Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry and Head of the Illuminati during the 1870's, he revised and modernized the ritual of the Black Mass celebrated to emphasize the Luciferian and Satanic victory achieved in the Garden of Eden and over Christ to end his mission on Earth. Lucifer is worshipped as The Giver of the True Light; the fountain of ALL wisdom; and as the greatest of all Supernatural Beings."

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Des Griffin (Fourth Reich of the Rich):

"Albert Pike was an evil genius of the first magnitude. He was a man of many talents who invariably used his abilities to destructive ends. He was very literate; being able to both read and write in 16 ancient languages. He was an avowed worshipper of Satan by name who practiced necromancy and all forms of sorcery."



Albert Pike (Morals and Dogma):

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! It is he who bears the Light!"



Albert Pike (in a speech to the 23 Supreme Councils, June 14, 1889):

"The true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay (Yahweh); but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."



Albert Pike (Morals and Dogma - on how members in the lower ranks of Masonry are deliberately lied to about the true meaning of the Masonic symbols):

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explanation is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry."

[TruthBringer]

Copin Albancelli (In 1908 - showing the distinction between the lower level and upper-echelon Masons):



Lower level Masonic motto: "To the Glory of the Great Architect of the Universe."

Upper level Masonic motto: "To the Glory and Love for Lucifer! Hatred! Hatred! Hatred! To God, accursed, accursed, accursed!"



Albert Pike:

"Masonry is a search after Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah."



Albert Pike:

"Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately, Adonay (Yahweh) is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black. For the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive."



Albert Pike:

"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion and its teachings are instructions in religion."

[TruthBringer]

Alright it's PEP TIME boys and girls. WTF is peptime?

Peptime is when I remind you guys that these sick Mother-F-ckers are in the middle of ****ing over our entire country! These sick, twisted, satanic worshipping, bold face lying, crackpot sniffing, black cloak wearing, weird hat ritualistic sons of bitches are in the process as we speak of conducting their business as usual.

And these people will never let up! Until they are forced to! So that means neither can we. The minute we let up on these bastards is the minute our World falls into Hell. Is that what we fricken want?

Anyone who comes on here and makes it look like the Masons are a peachy keen society is a joke!

First of all, they won't publicly display their secrets! The fact that they are too chicken **** to show the rest of the World what they are doing in the shadows shows me that they are conieving little devils who care nothing more than keeping their secrets in the family so to speak, and that they can say whatever they want to because they know that their asses are covered!

And this is the time when people begin to understand that when you allow for the media to "give you your information" you are basicly saying, "I am too lazy to find the truth for myself, so I will just go with what the TV tells me is true." Or the newspapers. Or the magazines.

It's all B-****. Just like you said.

Time for people to get up and realize that what people say means nothing.

Guess what guys, I was born in a little town called winnetika and my father was a hero in my eyes because of all the service he put into the World helping little children who couldn't read and write. He devoted his time to the World to help them all get better educations and he raised my family the way a father should. I received honors in school because I was a good student and I have been an overachiever all my life. I now live in a cozy little cottage with my two sons and I am living the American Dream.



Guess what folks....I just lied to you guys! Bold face. But my intention was not to lie...it was to expose the truth about people who do! WORDS MEAN NOTHING IF THE ACTIONS DON'T MATCH UP. IT"S PEOPLES ACTIONS THAT MEAN EVERYTHING.....WORDS ONLY GO AS FAR AS THE EAR. THEY PUT NOTHING INTO ACTION....



No...I was bullshitting you guys the entire time with that. Just like Bush does when he gets on TV in front of the podium. People lie everyday, right in front of all you guys, in your real lives, and they do it through their teeth, and you can tell they are lying before they even admit it. So why in the HELL DO WE KEEP BELIEVING POLITICIANS ON TV WHO NONE OF US HAVE EVER EVEN MET? It's a ****** joke.

I did not grow up in some friggen town called winettika, my dad was an alchoholic who would barely ever come to the dinner table. He left us when I was young so my mom could raise us by herself. And she did a damn good job.

Thats the REAL truth. Only, none of you guys would have known the difference. In fact, there is no way for you to tell whether I am lying to you right now or not.

Thats how f-cked up our whole system is right now guys. The politicians say one thing, and the people buy into it!! And laziness on behalf of the people to look into the facts has been part of the reason that these people have been in power as long as they have!

Again. Never EVER EVER EVER EVER go by what a person says. Go by what they do. If you only go by what they say, they will get you everytime.



So we can't stop exposing these monkeys. The minute we do, the World falls into "Dumbo mode again", where the majority of the people laugh and get drunk and have sex while meanwhile these freaks, FREAKS, go out there and do horrible things to Human Beings and to the planet. WAKE THE F-CK UP PEOPLE! THIS SH-T IT DISGUSTING. It's time we just said, "Anyone who isn't going to expose what they are doing to the public, does not deserve an ounce of credit with what they say to the rest of the World."

And once we make that statement and stick by it like we have some balls! Then we will start to see things change. And for the fricken better. Boy, what a thought. Things could actually get better? Damn skippy.....damn damn damn damn skippy.



PS - This message is not intended for anyone on this board who is already in the know. It is not intended in any way shape or form to do anything other than WAKE people the f-ck up from their "disneyland" so we can start to take some action. Viewer discretion advised.

[TruthBringer]

Some people might be saying....Truth...that last post was "out of character" for you.

Are you serious? Whens the last time someone had the balls to look President Bush in his face and call HIM out of character?



Albert Pike (July 13, 1889):

"Lucifer is god...Pure philisophic religion is the belief that Lucifer is the god of light and the god of good."



Albert Pike (Morals and Dogma):

"The Masonic religion should by all of us initiates of the highest degrees be maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine."



Albert Pike (On why the average mason doesn't know what his group represents):

"They do not know because we lie to them."



People....what more did the man need to say in order for you guys to realize that HE WAS LAUGHING IN THE WORLD'S FACE!!!! And disrespecting the people of the World to boot!

And you guys say? Who cares? Who the hell is Albert-Pike?

People!!! Albert Pike was a friggen Civil War General! He was one of the architects of the Klu-Klux-Klan!

There is a ****** statue of Albert Pike on Federal Property in Washington D.C.! And he is the only Confederate General who has one there!!

So what am I telling you? I'm telling you that these Masonic freaks including our President and the people in Washington have erected a statue of this man right in front of our faces! And put it on the soil of our muther-f-ing capital! What more do people need to see before we understand that THE TOP LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY ARE CORRUPT! And they are spitting in our faces. Spitting...in.....our....faces. Get it? Got it? Good.

[spot]

Would anyone like me to provide an updated summary to this thread? My old one's a bit out of date now, but I'm not sure if there's anyone who would be interested.

[koan]

spot wrote: Would anyone like me to provide an updated summary to this thread? My old one's a bit out of date now, but I'm not sure if there's anyone who would be interested.


I would be interested. There is no way I'm reading through all these posts that strangely remind my of a coworker who was on the conspiracy theory mailing list. I challenge you to summarize everything that has been said and implied by TruthBringer in a post that uses less than half a page.

[TruthBringer]

Some more interesting facts that people might be interested in:



1. Fifty of the original fifty-six signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons who were also involved in Rosicrucianism, astrology, secret societies, numerology, Tarot, and the Cabala.



2. Albert Pike was a Prince Adept of Freemasonry, and also a Palladist, which is a secret society that openly worships Lucifer.



3. All of the Boston Tea Party participating members were Freemasons who belonged to the St. Andrews Lodge in Boston.



4. Benjamin Franklin (Who belonged to the HellFire club which is a Satanic worshipping organization) joined his first American Masonic Lodge in 1731 - which was the Lodge of St. John in Philadelphia. He also printed the first Masonic book ever released in America called Constitutions. He was also a Grand Master of the Nine Sisters Mason Lodge in Paris.



5. Our first President of the United States - George Washington - was also a high-ranking Mason. And thanks to Albert Pike (The Satanist), we all now know what it means to be a "High-ranking Mason".

[spot]

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[TruthBringer]

General Douglas MacArthur:

"History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into economic and political decline."



Antony Sutton (America's Secret Establishment - An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones - commenting on the philisophical outlook of the Controllers):

"We're going to use the Hegelian Dialectic process to bring about a society in which the state is in absolute and total powerful control, a New World Order where the state is absolute and the individual can only find freedom in blind obedience to the state."



Des Griffin:

"In order to establish how deeply the secret societies have penetrated politics, it is necessary to understand how the history of the twentieth century has been molded by a hidden power group. This group is not necessarily aligned to either the left or right wings of the conventional political movements which have taken the public role in shaping World events in the years since the end of World War 1. It operates within both capitalism and communism and has as it's ultimate goal a politico-spiritual vision which transcends both these materialistic systems which are used to control the masses."

[TruthBringer]

Excerpts from "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" (translated by Victor Marsden):



* "The best results in governing are attained by violence and terrorization, not by academic discussion."

* "The ruler who is governed by the moral is not a skilled politician."

* "Great national qualities like frankness and honesty are vices in politics."

* "The Political has nothing in common with the moral."

* "We must not stop at bribery, deceit, and treachery when they should serve towards the attainment of our end."



Des Griffin:

"The men who conceived the diabolical conspiracy as laid out in the Protocols were not atheists; they were members of the Illuminati, followers of the original "light bearer", Satan the Devil. They were worshippers of Satan. This is the plan of Satan."



Henry Ford:

"The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are at least sixteen years old, and they have fitted the World situation up to this time. They fit it now."



Two phrases that frequently appear in the Illuminati Protocols:



Goyim - Which means "Human Cattle", which is a slur used by the Illuminati to categorize people of every race or creed who aren't members of the Illuminati.

Agentur - Which means all of the agents who are used by the Illuminati.



PS - If people were ever wondering whether the Illuminati tied in with politics or not...all they have to do is look at the above excerpts from the Illuminati Protocols and they will realize that the Illuminati is VERY involved with World Politics.

[spot]

Thank goodness for that. TruthBringer brings Excerpts from "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" to support his contentions. All a fool needs, in order to hang himself, is enough rope.

[koan]

Hey, TruthBringer!

If you had to pick the ten most important words to convince someone the world is in danger, what would they be?

[TruthBringer]

koan wrote: Hey, TruthBringer!

If you had to pick the ten most important words to convince someone the world is in danger, what would they be?


Not sure Koan. In fact, I would be willing to bet that different people would respond to each word differently.

I have noticed though, that it doesn't matter how many words you use to describe danger, because if the person hearing it doesn't believe that it's going to happen, then there is no way to convince them of it until they change their mind for themself.

[TruthBringer]

Adam Weishaupt (founder of the Illuminati in 1776):

"Reason will be the only code of Man. This is one of our greatest secrets. When at last Reason becomes the religion of man, then will the problem be solved."



Bertrand Russell (Famous 20th century philosipher, who wrote in Impact of Science on Society (1953):

"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting other than their schoolmaster would have wished."



David Rockefeller:

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

[spot]

TruthBringer wrote: Not sure Koan. In fact, I would be willing to bet that different people would respond to each word differently.

I have noticed though, that it doesn't matter how many words you use to describe danger, because if the person hearing it doesn't believe that it's going to happen, then there is no way to convince them of it until they change their mind for themself.TruthBringer has invariably copped out when asked for specifics, regardless of the way the question has been put to him.

As for "there is no way to convince them of it until they change their mind for themself", I cite anyone's experience of me here on FG as refutation of that. I've often been persuaded here from an initial point of view to a different one, some of which have involved danger.

[TruthBringer]

spot wrote: TruthBringer has invariably copped out when asked for specifics, regardless of the way the question has been put to him.

As for "there is no way to convince them of it until they change their mind for themself", I cite anyone's experience of me here on FG as refutation of that. I've often been persuaded here from an initial point of view to a different one, some of which have involved danger.


I fail to see how I 'copped" out on anything my friend. And I fail to see how you have made yourself the judge of that?

If anything, I believe I provided the most honest answer I could. And you sir...are not the one who gets to decide that.

[spot]

TruthBringer wrote: I fail to see how I 'copped" out on anything my friend. And I fail to see how you have made yourself the judge of that?By having repeatedly questioned you in the past and invariably received evasive non-specific answers. Who else has bothered to try to engage you in two-way discussion here, after all? I'm all you've got. Two-way discussion is neither your forté nor your desire. You want a high-googleranked outlet for your writings, ForumGarden benefits from incidental advertising revenue by hosting your thread, but you're not exactly community-minded are you.

[TruthBringer]

John Rankin (U. S. Representative on the floor of the House of Representatives):

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all history. Its purpose is to destroy the United States."



Malachi Martin (The Keys of This Blood):

"At the round table of international politics, no ruler could command, no government could function without the nod of the Roman Pope."



Robert Anton Wilson (Cosmic Trigger II):

"Language and hypnosis form the foundation on which Humans create Worlds of consciousness and of fantasy....Very few people know how to dehypnotize themselves."

[TruthBringer]

Original Writings of the Order of the Sect of the Illuminati:

"The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; never let it appear in any place in it's own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation."



Illuminati Requirements: - (a) Always remain hidden behind the scenes, (b) never let your true identity and purpose be known, (c) keep the truth hidden from the people.



Manly P. Hall:

"Freemasonry is a faternity within a faternity - an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elite."



Alice Bailey (A World Problem, 1950):

"A new world religion is on its way to externalize the Earth. It is the Masonic ritual, the role of the Solar Angel."

[TruthBringer]

Texe Marrs:

"These men of the Secret Brotherhood are not like you and me. They believe in magic. Theirs is the strange and bizarre World of ritual alchemy, the recitation of mantras, of words of power, the study of esoteric philosophies, and the mysterious display of arcane New Age symbols...no one would suspect for a moment what actually goes on in the deep, dark recesses of their diabolical minds...The Secret Brotherhood holds you and I in utter contempt. Their deceitful actions will demonstrate their contemptuous attitude toward us. All their lives they have been taught the necessity of deceiving the masses."



A. K. Chesterton (The New Unhappy Lords):

"A conspiracy of Worldwide dimensions does exist and unless we manage to defeat the conspirators, no matter how great the odds against us, we shall have nothing to pass on to our successors except the certainty of enslavement."

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TruthBringer wrote: A. K. Chesterton (The New Unhappy Lords)You're even prepared to quote Chesterton as well as the Protocols of Zion? Is there no limit to your stooping into the gutter?

This is the same Chesterton who was Oswald Mosley's Blackshirt "British Union of Fascists" director of Publicity and Propaganda, who went off to live in Nazi Germany and then joined the Nordic League because Mosley wasn't sufficiently anti-Semitic for his tastes?

(ps. for people who accidentally hit this freakshow page - don't confuse AK Chesterton the loonie and co-founder (in 1967) and first Leader of the UK's National Front Party with GK Chesterton the poet and novelist).

[koan]

TruthBringer wrote: Not sure Koan. In fact, I would be willing to bet that different people would respond to each word differently.

I have noticed though, that it doesn't matter how many words you use to describe danger, because if the person hearing it doesn't believe that it's going to happen, then there is no way to convince them of it until they change their mind for themself.


I find that the less words you have to use the more likely "they" will hear you. Can I ask what your prediction is if people don't listen? It may be somewhere in the almost 500 posts here but it would be much easier if you could sum up your vision of the future for me again in one post.

If I engage in discussion with you it will be on one point at a time. There is no point proceeding beyong a faulty connection. When you engage in "therefore" type statements it is important to keep the chain sturdy and free of rust. It is probably best to start at the beginning and not the end, but I hope you will indulge me.