Now Bush wants to test every American for mental illness--including you! And guess who will create the tests?
Next month, President Bush plans to unveil a broad new mental health plan called the “New Freedom Initiative.†Never mind that it couldn’t have less to do with freedom; if you’re a thinking American, this initiative should scare the hell out of you.
The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness. To this end, the president established a New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, to study the nation’s mental health delivery service and make a report. It’s interesting to note that many on the staff appointed to the Commission have served on the advisory boards of some of the nation’s largest drug companies
Read more:
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modu ... le&sid=830
Is this really a true article? It seems so far out there that maybe I should post this in the paranormal area. Comments?
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heh. if the democrats had proposed this, it would be considered a triumphant effort at compassionate care.
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anastrophe wrote: heh. if the democrats had proposed this, it would be considered a triumphant effort at compassionate care.
Ha! Right you are!
Ha! Right you are!
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The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness.
Uh oh. They will be on to me!
Uh oh. They will be on to me!
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Will the inmates be running the assylum?
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Where do you think we are now in the cycle of things? I guess the answer would be, "on the way down"?
jayboy wrote: :rolleyes: Most great free nations survive 200 years, slavery, to great courage, to freedom to slavery, complacency greed and thirst for power, will take us back to slavery. Many folks strive for World Governance I definitely do not. Without us third world nations will not fight to be like us. World governance is good for the sale of goods and social states not for democracies. We are past due. Keep stroking.
jayboy
jayboy wrote: :rolleyes: Most great free nations survive 200 years, slavery, to great courage, to freedom to slavery, complacency greed and thirst for power, will take us back to slavery. Many folks strive for World Governance I definitely do not. Without us third world nations will not fight to be like us. World governance is good for the sale of goods and social states not for democracies. We are past due. Keep stroking.
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I think this is The Beginning of the End.
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"Children and school personnel will be the first to be screened. The panel concluded that schools are in “key positions” to screen the 52 million students and six million adults who work at the schools."
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Kids are screened for other things that would inhibit their education, such as hearing and sight...so why not? As for the adults at school...again, why not?
Identifying a MHD (mental health disorder) is one thing and determing course of treatment is still up to the individual and his/her Dr. Not all Dr's just throw you on prozac at the first sign of a disorder but, some do.
The scary thing will be if there will be maddatory treatment or you lose your job. Anyone can be diagnosed with depression...you just may feel down that day?
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Kids are screened for other things that would inhibit their education, such as hearing and sight...so why not? As for the adults at school...again, why not?
Identifying a MHD (mental health disorder) is one thing and determing course of treatment is still up to the individual and his/her Dr. Not all Dr's just throw you on prozac at the first sign of a disorder but, some do.
The scary thing will be if there will be maddatory treatment or you lose your job. Anyone can be diagnosed with depression...you just may feel down that day?
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http://www.scre.ac.uk/forum/forum2001/richardson.html
Evidence for fatty acid deficiency in ADHD
EFA deficiency in ADHD was first suggested by Colquhoun and Bunday (1981), who set up a Hyperactive Children’s Support Group (HCSG) in the UK. They conducted a survey of hyperactive children and found the expected excess of males, associations with asthma, eczema and other allergic conditions, and evidence of zinc deficiency. They also noted various clinical signs of possible EFA deficiency in these children, including excessive thirst, frequent urination, and dry skin and hair.
They proposed that the problem might lie in the conversion of EFAs to LC-PUFAs, because they saw no evidence of a dietary deficiency of the ‘parent’ EFAs. They also hypothesised that this could explain both the sex ratio in ADHD (because males are more vulnerable than females to EFA deficiency) and the apparent intolerance of many ADHD children to certain foods such as salicylates (because these substances block the formation of prostaglandins from LC-PUFAs).
In the UK there is concern that diet and too many processed foods may be causing problems. Most teachers if asked can probably give anecdotal evidence of changs in children's behaviour after mealtimes. What they eat is as likely to be a factor as anything else. After the BSE scare in the UK we are a bit more wary about what is in out foods. Genetically modified foods have on the whole been removed from supermarket shelves in the face of wholesale boycotts.
To assume you automatically need drugs to solve a problem is a bit scary.
I used to share a flat with a research pharmacologist, one of the things he was involved in was as a consultant with the local teaching hospital with patients they couldn't work out what was wrong because of the cocktail of drugs they were on. GP's would prescribe a drug that had a side effect so they prescribed another to treat the sid
e effect that in turn also had a side effect so they... get the drift?
He would take them off everything to get them back to the point where they original symptoms were.
It used to be quite common, not sleeping due to stress have a valium, can't wake up have a stimulant, I knew people that took uppers and downers for the kick and several that were prescribed them, addictive they are.
It's the assumption you must be mentally ill that makes doctors overlook clinical diagnosis. Mind you I'm not a doctor just an opinionated layman.
Evidence for fatty acid deficiency in ADHD
EFA deficiency in ADHD was first suggested by Colquhoun and Bunday (1981), who set up a Hyperactive Children’s Support Group (HCSG) in the UK. They conducted a survey of hyperactive children and found the expected excess of males, associations with asthma, eczema and other allergic conditions, and evidence of zinc deficiency. They also noted various clinical signs of possible EFA deficiency in these children, including excessive thirst, frequent urination, and dry skin and hair.
They proposed that the problem might lie in the conversion of EFAs to LC-PUFAs, because they saw no evidence of a dietary deficiency of the ‘parent’ EFAs. They also hypothesised that this could explain both the sex ratio in ADHD (because males are more vulnerable than females to EFA deficiency) and the apparent intolerance of many ADHD children to certain foods such as salicylates (because these substances block the formation of prostaglandins from LC-PUFAs).
In the UK there is concern that diet and too many processed foods may be causing problems. Most teachers if asked can probably give anecdotal evidence of changs in children's behaviour after mealtimes. What they eat is as likely to be a factor as anything else. After the BSE scare in the UK we are a bit more wary about what is in out foods. Genetically modified foods have on the whole been removed from supermarket shelves in the face of wholesale boycotts.
To assume you automatically need drugs to solve a problem is a bit scary.
I used to share a flat with a research pharmacologist, one of the things he was involved in was as a consultant with the local teaching hospital with patients they couldn't work out what was wrong because of the cocktail of drugs they were on. GP's would prescribe a drug that had a side effect so they prescribed another to treat the sid
e effect that in turn also had a side effect so they... get the drift?
He would take them off everything to get them back to the point where they original symptoms were.
It used to be quite common, not sleeping due to stress have a valium, can't wake up have a stimulant, I knew people that took uppers and downers for the kick and several that were prescribed them, addictive they are.
It's the assumption you must be mentally ill that makes doctors overlook clinical diagnosis. Mind you I'm not a doctor just an opinionated layman.
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CVX wrote: Now Bush wants to test every American for mental illness--including you! And guess who will create the tests?
Next month, President Bush plans to unveil a broad new mental health plan called the “New Freedom Initiative.†Never mind that it couldn’t have less to do with freedom; if you’re a thinking American, this initiative should scare the hell out of you.
The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness. To this end, the president established a New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, to study the nation’s mental health delivery service and make a report. It’s interesting to note that many on the staff appointed to the Commission have served on the advisory boards of some of the nation’s largest drug companies
Read more:
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modu ... le&sid=830
Is this really a true article? It seems so far out there that maybe I should post this in the paranormal area. Comments?
This new Freedom Initiative is starting in Ireland too next month. I'm beginning to believe that the US & EU are in this together. Now I know how G.W done real swell in the election.
Next month, President Bush plans to unveil a broad new mental health plan called the “New Freedom Initiative.†Never mind that it couldn’t have less to do with freedom; if you’re a thinking American, this initiative should scare the hell out of you.
The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness. To this end, the president established a New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, to study the nation’s mental health delivery service and make a report. It’s interesting to note that many on the staff appointed to the Commission have served on the advisory boards of some of the nation’s largest drug companies
Read more:
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modu ... le&sid=830
Is this really a true article? It seems so far out there that maybe I should post this in the paranormal area. Comments?
This new Freedom Initiative is starting in Ireland too next month. I'm beginning to believe that the US & EU are in this together. Now I know how G.W done real swell in the election.
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The school told my parents if I did not go on ritalin that I could not go to school.
I got more hyper on it and they (the school) had me removed from the drug right away.
My history teacher always said your insane or going insane and us crazy people are the ones who are smiling all the time.
I agree that this is scarry. Perhpas we should start the test with our president?
Lotto
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MagicZ4941
I got more hyper on it and they (the school) had me removed from the drug right away.
My history teacher always said your insane or going insane and us crazy people are the ones who are smiling all the time.
I agree that this is scarry. Perhpas we should start the test with our president?
Lotto
http://www.flalottomagic.net/cgi-local/ ... ontact-344
MagicZ4941
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The moment you have all been waiting for. It’s the truth, the whole
truth and nothing, but the truth from “Saintsman!â€
All of you who have responded to my new membership in the FG have been
part of my university assigned law lab-project over the past 5 days!
I am currently sitting in the university library finalizing my many,
many printed FG notes from the posts I got through those of you over
the past couple of days so I can begin my essay. Are you a bit curious? Here is the real story!
Indeed, I am a law student and one week ago, I was one of 28 students
assigned a project by our social behaviors & psychology law professor
who has been engaging in this lab-project for five years now. The
assignment and mission was as follows per the syllabi:
Task:
1.) To seek, enroll and investigate a public forum to determine if
you are capable of engaging in intelligent discourse among the members
you interact with. The determination of intelligent discourse will be
graded on conversations and debates that are void of irrational
bantering, dead dogmas, useless expressions of demoralization and ill-
tempered emotional eruptions. (These behaviors are shunned in our
courts and not protocol.)
2.) To experience the “general public’s†ability in rapport,
rationalization, articulation, linguistic ability, maturity and
ability to receive, process, deliberate verbal expressions as
compared to the behavior, demeanor and protocol expected by future
attorneys in a courtroom. (These respondents will represent a general
foundation for the type of character making up your future witnesses
and juries, for better or worse.)
Rules:
The student entering the public forum must continually pose
intelligent questions and responses relevant to the topic and
respondents questions. This will be determined on the basis of the
conversations and debates you print from the web-site discourse and
display on the overhead projector during your oral presentation. The
student has only three days of university sponsored computer lab hours
(no more than eight sitting hours in one period) to conduct, complete
and finalize the discourse.
Objective:
In seeking to engage in a deliberate, rational and productive
discourse in pursuit of knowledge, understanding and truth, the
student must bring up at least one of three controversial subjects in
the forum.
1.) Religion
2.) Politics
3.) Sexual behavior.
Through the duration of the discourse, the student is allowed to
attempt to emotionally debase or incite negative responses by the
respondents of senseless rhetoric providing the student remains civil,
non-abusive and in-control of intelligent rapport throughout. This
will determined, again, by the overhead conversations you display
during your oral presentation of the actual posts, threads or IM’s.
If any student is banned prior to the completion of the discourse,
that will be evidence that a ruling body of the forum determined the
student’s behavior below standard unless the student can provide
physical proof by printing out actual posts and discourse showing
blatant and unjust action on the part of a moderator, web-advisor or
governing partisan of the forum. I would advise students not be
banned for the purpose of your overall evaluation during this lab.
All material must be researched, compiled, analyzed and put into
syllabi required essay form by Tuesday, February 15th, 2005.
Any and all alterations of this prescribed format must be approved by
this professor prior to any action on the student’s part. Questions pertaining to this project are acceptable if posted to my university e-mail address only.
There you have it! Yes, I guess you were guinea pigs, but it was all for the pursuit of education!
For any of you who are interested in my conclusions, I welcome you to read on.
First, my professor was ABSOLUTELY correct when he said it would probably be very easy to incite and draw an unknown respondent into a state of emotional disarray and illogical thought patterns. The more one is able to debase and rock the boat by getting their addressee to act in unacceptable behaviors, the better for that attorney’s foundation of sensible reasoning and controlled behavior.
Notice what my posts were: 1.) “Religion, Children and Whipping Toolsâ€
Actually, I thought I had a good chance of proving my professor wrong as that thread and its posts were quite good and I did not incite a lot of craziness on behalf of the respondents and I did maintain intelligent questions are responses through out.
So, I moved onto to another attempt with a post that would hopefully stir up a bit more emotion, but indeed, be founded on logic! Yes, politics and that of censorship. Ah, my next thread to see if I could appease my professor with the “common folk†who appear in our nation’s courtrooms was titled, “Censorshit … I mean ‘ship’!†The pun was clever I thought. Well, that did it! I got the reaction I was aiming for and not only that, all of the areas of my “character reaction sheet†were soon filled in with all the ugly responses that good ole prof. said would come thanks to those of you who responded.
My conclusion at this point only applies to you FG ppl. who participated with responses.
1. Bill Sikes: You did prove my prof. wrong and represented yourself and your country in an inspiring and intelligent debate in my “religion†thread with rational and well supported debate. Kuddos to you if you want them.
2. Jives: You should be proud too, but you made it clear that you
are an educator and your demeanor represented exactly that of
an educated respondent.
3. For the Canadian responders: Koan (moderator)& Kensloft …
very disappointing. Kensloft, you threatened me in your post!?
Koan, it started off good, but went down hill fast into a pit of
insults and rhetoric that has no place in intelligent debate.
Minks … You represented Canada most beautifully and I truly
appreciate your support (you know what I mean) even though you
were unaware that I was on a mission. You scored highly!
4. For us Americans, I have mixed feelings. There was good, but then we should be ashamed or at least I am! One of the posters said in a thread that American’s know they rule the world and act like it … pompus, arrogant and I will add irrational.
It was quite easy for me to lure Anastrophe into debate, but I conclude that most all your arguments were built one opinion without support before you began the ill criticism and negative demeanor toward me.
Godiva Girl: started off very intelligent and well in the relgion and spanking topic, but went deep south at the end with needless insults and so on.
Babyrider … well, you already know how I have to present your demeanor as one of the “common folkâ€. My goodness, just go over your responses to me and feel the hate, anger and pain I was able to stir up in you. One person should not be capable of inciting such behaviors from another when in a public debate or forum.
Abbey, both good and bad.
Enigma: Bravo to YOU!
Lon: Bravo to YOU!
A Karenia: Bravo to YOU!
Tmbsgrl:
Carla: What the heck was that all about?
Anyhow, I could go on, but I won’t
Onto my biggest challenge. Capt. Buzzard! As the day was nearing an end and I had spent almost 7 hours in the library computer lab, I was unable to entice Capt. Buzzard to join the rhetoric and BS. I was unable to get him to break. His fortitude was impressive, but I continued on and … although I admire your stamina, indeed, at the end of the day Capt. Buzzard did fall in to the trap, at first in a very neutral way, which is commendable, but the last comment posted was one of an ill and emotional statement concerning sunshine and goodness in my life. I had succeeded! I drew him and he took a side! And he made a polite, but still needless emotional comment. Whew, you almost got me.
Now, for all of you who may have been reading all along, but never did join it, I commend you. For those who did join in, but remained calm and intelligent (tombstone man, Bill Sikes, A karenia, Lon, CVX, Capt. Buzzard for 99% of the way, the gentleman with the Shakespeare Avatar [sorry I don’t recall your name] and so on) I commend you more.
Finally, last and most certainly not least! My prime target who I will make as my main subject to prove my professor’s point during my oral presentation … of course, you all know her, Ms. Lady Cop! With all due respect, I have to say that you represented yourself in a manner of ill emotion, irrational thought and combative abuse with no intelligent base or valid debate fashion. I was afraid you were not going to engage, but you did and what a dozzie it was. Not only that, you followed up with another thread to continue it all on!
And for all of you saying I was mean and aggressive toward her, you are right. I had to be to get the results I was investigating for my research. I thought Anastrophe was going to be my target, but then Lady Cop came along and made it all too easy! My luring you into debate is over and I stand true to some of the things I said in my posts, like I do respect you for your infinite worth as a soul, but in court, you would be a prosecuting attorney’s dream to tear apart on the stand.
I even went as far as to do a little research on Linda, I mean Lady Cop per the help of some friends to “investigate†her and nail her to the cross with that web site I posted where she truly was banned, but that action did not get nearly the response that the earlier on did and plus, the “administrator moderator†e-mailed me and told me to be good or I would be banned and that would defeat my entire project.
Okay, it is all said and done on my end as my work here is complete and now must be put into essay and presentation forum. Oh yeah, the question my professor posed about the common public and being able to conduct an intelligent debate per courtroom protocol … and I know, none of you thought you were in a courtroom, but tendencies are usually habitual or … the apple doesn’t fall from the tree theory, well, I will let you guess what my opinion is.
Someone kept responding with several posts telling me to apologize to Cop Lady or else … or else I don’t know what. I think it was that wild Canadian guy, but anyhow, I really am a nice guy who is a law student and enjoyed this project. You may be very distraught that you were unknowingly participants in it, but this is the web and its all public access! My point about the apology thing is that if I offended you, I am sorry as I don’t operate in such a manner on a regular basis, but also remember, I am going to be an attorney too.
Further, I admit that I am arrogant and opinionated, but am usually more couth in how I dispense it. I only had 3 days to get all of you going! Yes, I do like myself and NO, I don’t have 27 children. Anyone who bought into that was kind of goofy! Most all the info on my profile page was made up except I have been to Scotland and Ireland and I did study at Oxford University. The two pictures I posted under the name of Saintsman, well, I am sure you can guess! It all seemed so real! Especially for Lady Cop who really got missed-off with a “pâ€.
I really have no intention or desire to stay at a public forum where I am not wanted so Anastrophe’s analogy of me being a troll that needed to get attention or boost my ego or seek attention and all the rest was humorous! Those who chimed in with their psych eval. of me that mirrored Anastrophe’s were entertaining too. Anyhow, I can clearly see when Mr. “Saintsman†is not loved and he will disappear as mid-terms are coming soon and this thing can get addicting for sure!
Capt. Buzzard, stand your ground from now on and don’t fall prey to cheap “newbies†like me! Man, I thought you had me, but I got you in the end. Like Lady Cop “tipping her King.†Boy, I talked the talk in those posts, aye! That should be the icing on the cake to get me an “Aâ€!
Interestingly enough, I was not banned and for a while there, I thought for sure I would be, but at that point I did not care as I had more than enough proof to present my case as the discussion and or debate went to all emotional Hell and continued on for quite some time! My prof. would have said I was unjustly booted should I have been banned, but FG never did, no matter how many posts there were asking them to from LC and others.
Also, I certainly am not here to create any controversy now, but I will say that some of the censorship that LC did last night probably wasn’t appropriate while other deletions were. Just something for all of you to ponder. I couldn’t care less, I only used the juvenile third grade potty talk story to incite a debate that I would tie to politics over censorship while leading you all down a path of emotional ranting to show my professor (who is a judge in a U.S. circuit court) how well I did in debasing the “common Folkâ€.
I really am truly interested in your comments on this specific post right here and not any of my other ones. Anyone who has read this far now, well … should voice some opinion and at this point, Capt. Buzzard, there are no tricks! I really would like to hear your thoughts on all this.
Then Come Monday evening, I shall unsubscribe myself from your garden and be on my merry way … unless of course, you would like me to stay just a wee bit longer!
Education. It is a wonderful and entertaining experience!
truth and nothing, but the truth from “Saintsman!â€
All of you who have responded to my new membership in the FG have been
part of my university assigned law lab-project over the past 5 days!
I am currently sitting in the university library finalizing my many,
many printed FG notes from the posts I got through those of you over
the past couple of days so I can begin my essay. Are you a bit curious? Here is the real story!
Indeed, I am a law student and one week ago, I was one of 28 students
assigned a project by our social behaviors & psychology law professor
who has been engaging in this lab-project for five years now. The
assignment and mission was as follows per the syllabi:
Task:
1.) To seek, enroll and investigate a public forum to determine if
you are capable of engaging in intelligent discourse among the members
you interact with. The determination of intelligent discourse will be
graded on conversations and debates that are void of irrational
bantering, dead dogmas, useless expressions of demoralization and ill-
tempered emotional eruptions. (These behaviors are shunned in our
courts and not protocol.)
2.) To experience the “general public’s†ability in rapport,
rationalization, articulation, linguistic ability, maturity and
ability to receive, process, deliberate verbal expressions as
compared to the behavior, demeanor and protocol expected by future
attorneys in a courtroom. (These respondents will represent a general
foundation for the type of character making up your future witnesses
and juries, for better or worse.)
Rules:
The student entering the public forum must continually pose
intelligent questions and responses relevant to the topic and
respondents questions. This will be determined on the basis of the
conversations and debates you print from the web-site discourse and
display on the overhead projector during your oral presentation. The
student has only three days of university sponsored computer lab hours
(no more than eight sitting hours in one period) to conduct, complete
and finalize the discourse.
Objective:
In seeking to engage in a deliberate, rational and productive
discourse in pursuit of knowledge, understanding and truth, the
student must bring up at least one of three controversial subjects in
the forum.
1.) Religion
2.) Politics
3.) Sexual behavior.
Through the duration of the discourse, the student is allowed to
attempt to emotionally debase or incite negative responses by the
respondents of senseless rhetoric providing the student remains civil,
non-abusive and in-control of intelligent rapport throughout. This
will determined, again, by the overhead conversations you display
during your oral presentation of the actual posts, threads or IM’s.
If any student is banned prior to the completion of the discourse,
that will be evidence that a ruling body of the forum determined the
student’s behavior below standard unless the student can provide
physical proof by printing out actual posts and discourse showing
blatant and unjust action on the part of a moderator, web-advisor or
governing partisan of the forum. I would advise students not be
banned for the purpose of your overall evaluation during this lab.
All material must be researched, compiled, analyzed and put into
syllabi required essay form by Tuesday, February 15th, 2005.
Any and all alterations of this prescribed format must be approved by
this professor prior to any action on the student’s part. Questions pertaining to this project are acceptable if posted to my university e-mail address only.
There you have it! Yes, I guess you were guinea pigs, but it was all for the pursuit of education!
For any of you who are interested in my conclusions, I welcome you to read on.
First, my professor was ABSOLUTELY correct when he said it would probably be very easy to incite and draw an unknown respondent into a state of emotional disarray and illogical thought patterns. The more one is able to debase and rock the boat by getting their addressee to act in unacceptable behaviors, the better for that attorney’s foundation of sensible reasoning and controlled behavior.
Notice what my posts were: 1.) “Religion, Children and Whipping Toolsâ€
Actually, I thought I had a good chance of proving my professor wrong as that thread and its posts were quite good and I did not incite a lot of craziness on behalf of the respondents and I did maintain intelligent questions are responses through out.
So, I moved onto to another attempt with a post that would hopefully stir up a bit more emotion, but indeed, be founded on logic! Yes, politics and that of censorship. Ah, my next thread to see if I could appease my professor with the “common folk†who appear in our nation’s courtrooms was titled, “Censorshit … I mean ‘ship’!†The pun was clever I thought. Well, that did it! I got the reaction I was aiming for and not only that, all of the areas of my “character reaction sheet†were soon filled in with all the ugly responses that good ole prof. said would come thanks to those of you who responded.
My conclusion at this point only applies to you FG ppl. who participated with responses.
1. Bill Sikes: You did prove my prof. wrong and represented yourself and your country in an inspiring and intelligent debate in my “religion†thread with rational and well supported debate. Kuddos to you if you want them.
2. Jives: You should be proud too, but you made it clear that you
are an educator and your demeanor represented exactly that of
an educated respondent.
3. For the Canadian responders: Koan (moderator)& Kensloft …
very disappointing. Kensloft, you threatened me in your post!?
Koan, it started off good, but went down hill fast into a pit of
insults and rhetoric that has no place in intelligent debate.
Minks … You represented Canada most beautifully and I truly
appreciate your support (you know what I mean) even though you
were unaware that I was on a mission. You scored highly!
4. For us Americans, I have mixed feelings. There was good, but then we should be ashamed or at least I am! One of the posters said in a thread that American’s know they rule the world and act like it … pompus, arrogant and I will add irrational.
It was quite easy for me to lure Anastrophe into debate, but I conclude that most all your arguments were built one opinion without support before you began the ill criticism and negative demeanor toward me.
Godiva Girl: started off very intelligent and well in the relgion and spanking topic, but went deep south at the end with needless insults and so on.
Babyrider … well, you already know how I have to present your demeanor as one of the “common folkâ€. My goodness, just go over your responses to me and feel the hate, anger and pain I was able to stir up in you. One person should not be capable of inciting such behaviors from another when in a public debate or forum.
Abbey, both good and bad.
Enigma: Bravo to YOU!
Lon: Bravo to YOU!
A Karenia: Bravo to YOU!
Tmbsgrl:
Carla: What the heck was that all about?
Anyhow, I could go on, but I won’t
Onto my biggest challenge. Capt. Buzzard! As the day was nearing an end and I had spent almost 7 hours in the library computer lab, I was unable to entice Capt. Buzzard to join the rhetoric and BS. I was unable to get him to break. His fortitude was impressive, but I continued on and … although I admire your stamina, indeed, at the end of the day Capt. Buzzard did fall in to the trap, at first in a very neutral way, which is commendable, but the last comment posted was one of an ill and emotional statement concerning sunshine and goodness in my life. I had succeeded! I drew him and he took a side! And he made a polite, but still needless emotional comment. Whew, you almost got me.
Now, for all of you who may have been reading all along, but never did join it, I commend you. For those who did join in, but remained calm and intelligent (tombstone man, Bill Sikes, A karenia, Lon, CVX, Capt. Buzzard for 99% of the way, the gentleman with the Shakespeare Avatar [sorry I don’t recall your name] and so on) I commend you more.
Finally, last and most certainly not least! My prime target who I will make as my main subject to prove my professor’s point during my oral presentation … of course, you all know her, Ms. Lady Cop! With all due respect, I have to say that you represented yourself in a manner of ill emotion, irrational thought and combative abuse with no intelligent base or valid debate fashion. I was afraid you were not going to engage, but you did and what a dozzie it was. Not only that, you followed up with another thread to continue it all on!
And for all of you saying I was mean and aggressive toward her, you are right. I had to be to get the results I was investigating for my research. I thought Anastrophe was going to be my target, but then Lady Cop came along and made it all too easy! My luring you into debate is over and I stand true to some of the things I said in my posts, like I do respect you for your infinite worth as a soul, but in court, you would be a prosecuting attorney’s dream to tear apart on the stand.
I even went as far as to do a little research on Linda, I mean Lady Cop per the help of some friends to “investigate†her and nail her to the cross with that web site I posted where she truly was banned, but that action did not get nearly the response that the earlier on did and plus, the “administrator moderator†e-mailed me and told me to be good or I would be banned and that would defeat my entire project.
Okay, it is all said and done on my end as my work here is complete and now must be put into essay and presentation forum. Oh yeah, the question my professor posed about the common public and being able to conduct an intelligent debate per courtroom protocol … and I know, none of you thought you were in a courtroom, but tendencies are usually habitual or … the apple doesn’t fall from the tree theory, well, I will let you guess what my opinion is.
Someone kept responding with several posts telling me to apologize to Cop Lady or else … or else I don’t know what. I think it was that wild Canadian guy, but anyhow, I really am a nice guy who is a law student and enjoyed this project. You may be very distraught that you were unknowingly participants in it, but this is the web and its all public access! My point about the apology thing is that if I offended you, I am sorry as I don’t operate in such a manner on a regular basis, but also remember, I am going to be an attorney too.
Further, I admit that I am arrogant and opinionated, but am usually more couth in how I dispense it. I only had 3 days to get all of you going! Yes, I do like myself and NO, I don’t have 27 children. Anyone who bought into that was kind of goofy! Most all the info on my profile page was made up except I have been to Scotland and Ireland and I did study at Oxford University. The two pictures I posted under the name of Saintsman, well, I am sure you can guess! It all seemed so real! Especially for Lady Cop who really got missed-off with a “pâ€.
I really have no intention or desire to stay at a public forum where I am not wanted so Anastrophe’s analogy of me being a troll that needed to get attention or boost my ego or seek attention and all the rest was humorous! Those who chimed in with their psych eval. of me that mirrored Anastrophe’s were entertaining too. Anyhow, I can clearly see when Mr. “Saintsman†is not loved and he will disappear as mid-terms are coming soon and this thing can get addicting for sure!
Capt. Buzzard, stand your ground from now on and don’t fall prey to cheap “newbies†like me! Man, I thought you had me, but I got you in the end. Like Lady Cop “tipping her King.†Boy, I talked the talk in those posts, aye! That should be the icing on the cake to get me an “Aâ€!
Interestingly enough, I was not banned and for a while there, I thought for sure I would be, but at that point I did not care as I had more than enough proof to present my case as the discussion and or debate went to all emotional Hell and continued on for quite some time! My prof. would have said I was unjustly booted should I have been banned, but FG never did, no matter how many posts there were asking them to from LC and others.
Also, I certainly am not here to create any controversy now, but I will say that some of the censorship that LC did last night probably wasn’t appropriate while other deletions were. Just something for all of you to ponder. I couldn’t care less, I only used the juvenile third grade potty talk story to incite a debate that I would tie to politics over censorship while leading you all down a path of emotional ranting to show my professor (who is a judge in a U.S. circuit court) how well I did in debasing the “common Folkâ€.
I really am truly interested in your comments on this specific post right here and not any of my other ones. Anyone who has read this far now, well … should voice some opinion and at this point, Capt. Buzzard, there are no tricks! I really would like to hear your thoughts on all this.
Then Come Monday evening, I shall unsubscribe myself from your garden and be on my merry way … unless of course, you would like me to stay just a wee bit longer!
Education. It is a wonderful and entertaining experience!
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It's all part of a dastardly plot, curb spending on education, especially anything that encourages you to think for yourself, they've got the tv stations producing mind numbing pap. The next stage is to convince everybody they are stressed out so they can dope everybody up to the eyeballs so they remain placid and generate profits for the drug companies, meanwhile all the third world nations spend more and more on education so in the technological race that has been won so far by the west we start getting left behind but can't do anything to stop them because nobody remembers what a factory is because we're all to fat to move and hyped up tothe eyeballs. Remember you read it here first. :wah:
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[QUOTE=capt_buzzard]I think this is The Beginning of the End.hmmm Seen this on Security Office here,
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I deal with chronic clinical depression, panic and anxiety disorder and cannot get treatment for it because I cannot afford to spend the nearly hundred fifty a month for meds and the hundred bucks every three months for the doctor visit. I would hope that evaluations would include some sort of treatment subsidization. I think it is a fairly decent idea.