crimes and trials

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:10 am

i am absolutely new here and perhaps should not make a request, but are the members here amenable to a crimes/trials forum? for example the scott peterson trial was greatly discussed on another board, but the posters were very rude and insulting on a personal level. i think there is an interest in high profile trials. is there an interest here? thanks!

Gabs · Post by **Gabs** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:28 pm

I too would love to have a Crime / Trials forum -- I have followed the Laci Peterson Case from almost day one. I second the motion for a crime/trial forum.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:44 pm

I am a big fan of the "Three Strikes Law"and irrespective of the critics who say "yeah, but what about the costs of incarcerating these folks", I say ---"what about the costs of insurance, fear, broken bones and all the attendant costs of crime if released? Besides which, crime has gone down in those states that have the law.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:03 pm

AmericanGirl wrote: Although I agree Lon, I find the huge increase in those being incarcerated troubling...esp in California...the numbers are staggering!!!

Don't forget though------California has 35,000,000 people

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:56 pm

I'm also a new member...!!

Ms. LadyCop invited me over.

I would also enjoy a CRIMES AND TRIALS FORUM..!! :yh_peace

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:15 pm

Lon wrote: Don't forget though------California has 35,000,000 people
the problem in california is that it's not reserved only for violent crimes. non-violent, 'victimless' crimes can land you three strikes, and that defeats the whole point of the law - to get _violent_ criminals off the streets.

i'm as tough on crime as anyone you'll find. i want violent offenders locked up, and as far as i'm concerned, throw away the key. but i also don't want my tax dollars being wasted providing a lifetime 'cot and three hots' to some idiot who got busted smoking pot in a park a couple of times.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:08 am

i would agree that three strikes should apply to felonies, not misdemeanors. it was meant to imprison the habitual criminals who knew justice had a revolving door for certain offenses. in florida we have a gun law i like...it is mandated on the judges to sentence accordingly: use a gun, 10 years. fire the gun, 20 years, hit someone with the bullet , life. works for me.

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:01 am

lady cop wrote: i would agree that three strikes should apply to felonies, not misdemeanors. it was meant to imprison the habitual criminals who knew justice had a revolving door for certain offenses. in florida we have a gun law i like...it is mandated on the judges to sentence accordingly: use a gun, 10 years. fire the gun, 20 years, hit someone with the bullet , life. works for me.

the problem i have with that is the focus on the type of weapon, rather than the crime. if you kill a person with a knife, it's equally as heinous a crime as killing them with a gun. same for baseball bat. or, as in the case of a highschool friend, murdered by her husband by being hit in the head with a frying pan, then choked to death when he later noticed her moving.

he shoudl rot in hell. but of course, he's up for parole.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:04 am

anastrophe wrote: the problem i have with that is the focus on the type of weapon, rather than the crime. if you kill a person with a knife, it's equally as heinous a crime as killing them with a gun. same for baseball bat. or, as in the case of a highschool friend, murdered by her husband by being hit in the head with a frying pan, then choked to death when he later noticed her moving.

he shoudl rot in hell. but of course, he's up for parole.
hello and good to meet you

....i agree, which is why i said three strikes should apply to felonies. any violence of course. but i do like the gun law here because it is too commonly concealed and a threat to LE. (or used in home invasions, robberies etc.) it gives the courts some leverage and clout and supersedes "soft" judges.

LoveMama · Post by **LoveMama** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:55 am

lady cop wrote: i would agree that three strikes should apply to felonies, not misdemeanors. it was meant to imprison the habitual criminals who knew justice had a revolving door for certain offenses. in florida we have a gun law i like...it is mandated on the judges to sentence accordingly: use a gun, 10 years. fire the gun, 20 years, hit someone with the bullet , life. works for me.

Hi lady cop.......absolutely right on! Felonies only! I voted no on the three strikes!

I couldn't believe that it passed! I'd have a real hard time sending someone to jail for life even if they had two prior violent felonies on their record for something as minor as stealing a bicycle or a loaf of bread from a convenience store! How about possession of weed! Come on, I've very conservative but I think this law is ridiculous. This law has major flaws! :-5

xxxxxxxxooooooo

mama (Louise)

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:57 pm

anastrophe,

Hi..!! I agree with you 100%. I just get livid when I think how the criminal system is working in this country, mind you I know its the best, but..!! Something is wrong when the criminals are protected, and the public is put at risk..!! :-2

You have criminals who are guilty, and admitted it. Get up on the day of their hearing and plead not guilty..(MARK HACKING FOR ONE, WHO KILLED HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE LORI HACKING..@@). My god why is he not just locked up forever with no parole period. HE DID IT.. HE SAID HE DID IT.. !! :-5

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE O.J. CASE STILL ANGRY ABOUT THAT VERDICT..

We better wake up, and quit handling these criminal with kid gloves. It will come back to haunt us, if it already hasn't..!! I don't care how you took a life, unless self defense. You kill bye bye for life, or death how ever the jury decides.. NO OTHER OPTIONS.. AND NO PAROLE..!!

Originally Posted by anastrophe

the problem i have with that is the focus on the type of weapon, rather than the crime. if you kill a person with a knife, it's equally as heinous a crime as killing them with a gun. same for baseball bat. or, as in the case of a highschool friend, murdered by her husband by being hit in the head with a frying pan, then choked to death when he later noticed her moving.

he shoudl rot in hell. but of course, he's up for parole.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:43 pm

AmericanGirl wrote: So what will be the next big trial???

Robert Blake...did it...no mystery there...

Mark Hacking...did it .

..also a yawn...

I dunno if there will be one as captivating as the Laci trial...just grabbed me and wouldn't let go!!! :driving:
YOU'RE BACK!! yay!! :-4 you know, when you least expect it there will be another obsession...and don't steal my car! :rolleyes:

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:13 pm

AmericanGirl wrote: A WW shucks but its such fun to drive...... hey have you ever had to pee into a cup for the Doctor??? Well, my doggie has an infection and they told me to bring in a urine sample...Have you ever tried to get a Llasso Apso to pee into a cup....I wish I had a video of what went on here last night!!! hahaahhaha

My dog thinks I'm nuts!!! Anyway It can't be done!!!!! But one can get it off the floor....and she always knows when I hide her pills in her food...HOW????

well i have made other people pee into a cup, for drug testing, but never a dog! god i am glad i did not observe that!! i am visualizing this smelly :wah: only you......

anastrophe · Post by **anastrophe** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:05 am

argonaut wrote: I agree 10-20-life is great. Gun crimes should and will not be tolerated.so, if someone is murdered using a knife, the perpetrator should get a lighter sentence? the victim is somehow 'differently dead', so the crime isn't as heinous?

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:17 am

it doesn't matter how anyone is murdered, they are dead and thats that.