Another_Juggalo wrote: First, I'd like to say that you're very ignorant, insulting, and ill-assuming.
Coming from someone who stands for evil, I take that as a compliment. Thank you.
Please calm yourself and try to get rid of the hate inside of you.
All good people hate evil, what do you want me to do? Be ambivalent? Or even embrace evil as you have? Not bloody likely. Evil bands like ICP don't make the world a better place, they make it a worse one.
The attitude you have is not going to help your cause, it only encourages more rebellion from those you're speaking against.
There you go threatening again, "Don't speak out against my music or I'll get really bad!" There was a saying after WWII, "I didn't speak out against the Nazis when they came for the Jews, because I wasn't a Jew. Then, when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out." All people of good conscience owe the world and it's people to speak out against the evil that this band represents.
Like I've said, I've seen first-hand the destruction and devastation this band wrecks on young lives.
Being de-sensitized isn't a bad thing. In this world of violence, emotion can be the enemy that works against you at times. desensitization isn't a bad thing, IMO.
More of your silly illogic. You mean to say that it should be "no big deal" to see people murdered on the street? You've lost that innocence of your youth. That precious view of the world that you had before you listened to this detestable "band."
Can't you keep an open mind and remember when you trusted people? When you thought love and goodness were important? When your world was full of light and life, the exact opposite of this horrible plague on humankind?
Or are you too desensitized now?
First off, no need to get personal. That's immature and uncalled for. I am not a giggalo. In fact, I'm one of the few people left who saves their viriginity for marriage. The word juggalo sprouted from the term juggla, it's only a coincidence that it rhymes with giggalo.
Nothing's a coincidence with band, here's an excerpt from the local gang police report:
Insane Clown Posse (ICP)
Primarily white membership and feared by our local Hispanic gangs.
Typically wear face make-up and clothing with band "Insane Clown Posse" displayed.
Local ICP gangs have ties with 1st generation Goths (Gothic) - Goths have been associated with animal mutilations and satanic worship.
Soo...have you mutilated any animals today? Or are you saving that for marriage too?
Sure, ICP's music doesn't help, but these people are going to exsist regardless.
Well. You finally admit it. You just admitted that ICP is a negative influence on society and on children. That negates everything you have said so far. thank you for throwing the debate. That was nice, and honest, of you.
Now...what can you and I do about eliminating this horrifying influence from our children's lives?:wah:
Your ego makes me want to vomit.
Is that more of your learned-behavior from attending these concerts? From what I read, that happens a lot there.
No, indoctrinated children like that is a big deal. But there are people and juggalos out there who work to help balance that and educate the younger juggalos. ICP may make it seem like it's cool to be mean-spirited, vicious and violent,
Again you concede my point. Thanks! So there are "nice" juggalos? What a laugh!:wah: They must be the ones who don't actually stab people and emulate their behavior....they just condone it. And that's just as bad in my book.
"The amazing maze"] by ICP
"This is Rick
We like to call him Rick the Dick
Dickface here is a wealthy entrepeneur
Who smacks his wife around
And buys his way in and out of everything
Let's see how Mr. Toughguy fairs up in the amazing maze"
Wonderful! A song about hitting women and going to Hell. What a great thing for young people to listen to all day long. I mean, everyone needs to hear about domestic violence and eternal punishment all day, don't they? You just don't get it.
I'll take "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" any day over this depressing trash.
"Confessions" by ICP
"Father, I confess for doing
I had a brain, but life had to ruin it
Dissinfected, Disected, Don't Respect It
When you put me in a cage full of animals
Savages and cold blooded canibals
I can't help but come but abouts me
try to run but they found me, surround me"
How do you think a song about a man getting killed by cannibals is good for people!? there's no message here other than, "Life sucks, then you die!" No ten year old I know needs this either.
This song is all about repenting for your sins and admitting that it's hard to stay pure when you're growing up in a world full of violence and hate.
No it isn't. this is a cynical depressing death song. Notice how the singer says, "Life had to ruin it"? Just like you, he takes no responsibility for bad behavior or negative influences.
"Halls of Illusions" by ICP
[Violent J]
"Back to reality and what you're about
Your wife can't smile cuz ya knocked her teeth out
And she can't see straight from gettin hit
Cuz you're a fat ****in drunk piece of ****
But it's all good here, come have a beer
I'll break the top off it and shove it in ya ear
And you're death comes wicked painful and slow
At tha hands of MILENKO!"
yeah, now there's really something I'd like my grand daughter to hear....NOT! Music like this doesn't address domestic violence, it glorifies it. Just like everything else this band sings about, kids listen to this filth and think it's cool.
"The Killing Fields by ICP
"As I feed off a dead pig, I'm thinking back
To when I had a heart beat, and how I would act
I would steal from the poor, I'd laugh at the sick
But in the killing fields, you get your f*cking neck ripped"
Where do you get that? All I see dead pigs, and neck ripping. More beautiful, fun stuff for children.
This is pretty self explanatory.
I agree.
.the toughest criminals and thugs
death bed...
fry in the electric chair...
they're about to die.
death.
it's time for you to f*ckin' die
Religion has left you
Life will end
Religion has left you
Life will end
Wow. You're right, they are even worse than I thought they were.
it's a story about those people being punished on judgement day (which, in this mythology, is the arrival of the Dark Carnival). Each joker's card is like a mirror where you can look at yourself and the world from a different angle, and ask yourself, am I really living a good life? Above that, there's comedy, dark comedy, silly stuff, and like any movie that involves someone getting hurt, dieing, getting shot etc. it's a form of entertainment through stories. It's only directed at a different audience.
Look at that writing, mythology and "Dark Carnivals", joker's cards and judgement day. Do you really deny you're a cultist? You've just crossed over to the "tinfoil hat" crowd. Listen. I think the mothership is leaving!
First, try and eradicate the problem of your country and how it treats it's people and the world. You do that, and then there wouldn't even be any reason for ICP to exsist.
Whoops! My theory is that if we eliminate ICP and allother forms of hate, we'll solve the other problems. Not the other way round!
I'm serious, the so called civil people out there who are blind sheep to what's REALLY going on are what let the problems in the world grow so big, and ICP is a by-product of that problem.
ICP isn't a symptom, it's the disease. You don't tell the patient to work out more to cure cancer, you cut out the tumor. ICP is a fat, bloated tumor on civilization. To save our future, we have to cut out the disease. ICP will go. You can bet on it.
Don't believe me? Just ask the parents. The ones who love their children. The ones who want a good, clean, and decent future for their children.
The lack of free minds in the world is what allows people to be controlled
Said the cult-programmed groupie.
And please don't compare it to cults like the Nazi's,
You're right. I consider them far worse. The Nazis, too, targeted the youth. They too used iconism, cultism, and propaganda tactics to sway the minds of the people. Just like you, they blamed the evil of the world on others.
But they never had the expansive reach that ICP has.
I've said it once, I'll say it again.
Serial killers like what they like....it doesn't make it good or right.
Child Molesters like what they like...it doesn't make it good or right.
Satan Worshippers like what they like.....it doesn't make it good or right.
ICP fans like what they like.... and what they like are songs about killing innocent people.
It doesn't make it good or right. Get it?
Some day, when you grow up and have children of your own, you'll laugh at the fact that you ever thought this stuff was cool. You find it amusing that you were ever so delusional.
Moreover, you won't let your kids get exposed to terrible negativity like this...and that makes you a hypocrite. You just don't know it yet.
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