an article on conformists.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:07 pm

Jives wrote: So I'm brainwashed by the mass media....I understand that, but I'm not threatened by it. As a primate, I enjoy being "part of the group" or the "in" crowd. I'm glad they are constantly changing what is "cool" and what is not. It'd be kind of boring otherwise.

And as a consumer, I like new spending my money on new logos and music.

So what's the point here? We should all just run away and live in a cave? Or stop dressing in logos and listening to music? Not bloody likely.

I guess it's all about choices and if we didn't have them we would be a bunch of boring Farm Animals, like sheep bahhhhd.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:08 pm

I like the primate part-you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours...........

No, that would be conforming..........................:wah:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:03 pm

Oh not this chestnut again, if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, did it really make a sound? The idea that reality is real is an assumption of course, but as assumptions go, its one of the best. To people who wonder whether everything other than their concisouness is just an illusion the only answer is, well, kill yourself, and then we'll know whether the rest of us really exist or not. One of the many reasons why science has in general replaced philosophy as the mainstream mode of thought are arguments like this. I'm reminded of the story where a group of hungry philosophers, scientists, and engineers approach a large mountain with a load of food at the top. The scientists work out means of getting to the top, the engineers develop a system to achieve this, and the philosophers starve to death at the bottom wondering whether it really was a hill, how is that relevant to human thought, and what does the word "hill" mean in the first place anyway.

minks · Post by **minks** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:05 pm

Galbally wrote: Oh not this chestnut again, if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, did it really make a sound? The idea that reality is real is an assumption of course, but as assumptions go, its one of the best. To people who wonder whether everything other than their concisouness is just an illusion the only answer is, well, kill yourself, and then we'll know whether the rest of us really exist or not. One of the many reasons why science has in general replaced philosophy as the mainstream mode of thought are arguments like this. I'm reminded of the story where a group of hungry philosophers, scientists, and engineers approach a large mountain with a load of food at the top. The scientists work out means of getting to the top, the engineers develop a system to achieve this, and the philosophers starve to death at the bottom wondering whether it really was a hill, how is that relevant to human thought, and what does the word "hill" mean in the first place anyway.
ya could have said beer at the top ahahahahahahaha

hadji · Post by **hadji** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:54 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: Not that I doubt you, hadji, but you have quite a few simple spelling errors that weren't in the original post. Most people misspell the same words, yet you correctly spelled them and then didn't. It confuses me.
i spell checked that article with a program in microsoft word.

tis not that big of a mystery.

hadji · Post by **hadji** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:58 pm

lady cop wrote: insulting aren't you? if you didn't want comments, why post it?
im clearly not trying to insult anybody. try and keep any more comments that dont have to do with the discussion to yourself. i obviously want comments, i just dont want to read something i already said, just put into different words.

hadji · Post by **hadji** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:01 pm

gmc wrote: posted by hadji

No it doesn't. How do you know the association is real as the only certainty you have is that you are. You know this because you are thinking about whether you exist but you don't know the reality around you unless you can trust your senses but you don't know if your senses can be trusted.

I think means just that and no more.

Therefore I am is the conclusion arrived at by the fact you are thinking at all.

That you exist is a good thing is an opinion, whether it is worth it or not and what is the purpose of it all is open to question.

posted by open mind

How do you know the stone exists? If it does not think then does it exist? Does it only exist because you think it does?

Rene Descartes walks into a bar, really thirsty and hankering for a cool beer. The bartender, seeing a person of such celebrated status walk in, thinks "I've got to set this guy up with something really nice!" So he says to Descartes, "Mr. Descartes, would you like a nice snifter of cognac or perhaps some whisky from Scotland? On the house?"

Descartes replies, "Oh, I think not"...and promptly disappears!

(regarding ladycop)

these are the kinds of posts i want.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:09 pm

hadji wrote: im clearly not trying to insult anybody. try and keep any more comments that dont have to do with the discussion to yourself. i obviously want comments, i just dont want to read something i already said, just put into different words.so you shall dictate what others will say? your comment to Open Mind WAS insulting. and i will post whatever i see fit.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:37 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: What ? You only want comments that suite you ? sorry It doesnt work like that. You'll get exactly the kind of posts that suite us, especially now you said you didnt .

:yh_clap :yh_clap

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valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:37 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I had a really delish bacon and egg sandwich for breakfast this morning.

Oh sorry, was that off topic?

If it WAS, who cares?!?!?

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

abbey · Post by **abbey** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:41 pm

hadji wrote: (regarding ladycop)

these are the kinds of posts i want........

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:42 pm

hadji wrote: im clearly not trying to insult anybody. try and keep any more comments that dont have to do with the discussion to yourself. i obviously want comments, i just dont want to read something i already said, just put into different words.

Shoulda looked before you lept, jefe!

Show of hands: How many are for putting Mister 11 -poster-wet-behind-

the-ears on oneMASSIVE Ignore list, hmmm?

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:43 pm

*closing eyes at back of that gown*

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:46 pm

chonsigirl wrote: *closing eyes at back of that gown*

Why do you think I started calling him Sweet Cheeks, hmmm?

:yh_blush :yh_giggle :yh_battin

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:49 pm

in my illustrious law enforcement career:D , i have often let 11th graders tell me what to do:wah: . hadji sent me two rude pms as well, because i advised him privately not to post his identifying information, real name, school and city, which he had done. so Valerie, i think "ignore" is a great idea. 'bye hadji.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:02 pm

hadji wrote: (regarding ladycop)

these are the kinds of posts i want.
Too bad you can't dictate who writes what in here, huh? It's called a democracy, not a dictatorship. Go find your manners.

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:27 pm

Ah sapling your article clearly states you think Much Music is brainwash, forcing you to like... certain music. Well if you feel that way you have 2 choices, fall into the much music void and become main stream or stop listening to much music.

I think it is clearly a false ideal that we are "mainsteamed" only those weak of mind can be so maligned. You were born into a country of Free Choice as were many of us on this forum. Make your choices wisely and only you determine the outcome of all the influences around you. Don't be a sucker to mass media.

BTW Much Music does not brain wash you into liking certain music, I have 2 teens with very distinct and individual musical tastes and both have been exposed to Much Music equally and they were able to make their own choices on what they like. I assure you Much does not play enough 60's to 90's music to be classed as a powerhouse influence on one of my daughters.

As for your being so uptight about this discussion and what is contributed.

Lighten up, we here are a light hearted group and won't take to kindly to some youngster coming in and shooting off at the mouth to us.

Know your place, you are new, you are a teen, respect others and you shall be respected back.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:27 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I had a really delish bacon and egg sandwich for breakfast this morning.

Oh sorry, was that off topic?

Hey, I'd like to hear more about that sandwich....butter on there or mayo? Thick-cut bacon or regular? And the bread? Tell me about the bread. :sneaky:

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:46 pm

do you have any idea how much celery and onions i have to chop up for stuffing tonight BR?? i hope i don't chop off any digits!!

especially my trigger finger!

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:49 pm

lady cop wrote: do you have any idea how much celery and onions i have to chop up for stuffing tonight BR?? i hope i don't chop off any digits!!

especially my trigger finger!
Yes, chopping is a dangerous pasttime, but I'm confident that if you DO injure yourself, you will quickly learn how to shoot with the other hand.

Tell me more about that stuffing....just how much celery and onions are involved?

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:03 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Is this Much Recipes ? Cos I feel Your trying to brainwash me into trying your recipes and make me a conformist. I eat therefore I am. Bake that in your philosophy pie and eat it! :rolleyes:the true existentialist purpose for stuffing Arnold, is to STUFF IT. :yh_bigsmi i stuff, therefore i shall be stuffed.

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:04 pm

ArnoldLayne wrote: Is this Much Recipes ? Cos I feel Your trying to brainwash me into trying your recipes and make me a conformist. I eat therefore I am. Bake that in your philosophy pie and eat it! :rolleyes:
Never mind, Arnold...just come to the dark side...resistance is futile.:sneaky:

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:06 pm

lady cop wrote: the true existentialist purpose for stuffing Arnold, is to STUFF IT. :yh_bigsmi i stuff, therefore i shall be stuffed.
Oh, I like that saying LC!

Therefore, thou shalt stuff thyself tomorrow on turkey! Me too!:wah:

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:09 pm

Tra-la-la tra-la-la... here I am, happily skipping through the little garden

plot, tossing daisy petals in the air, so glad to have rid this place of

those pesky WEEDS.

Tra-la-la...

Maybe I'll be non-conformist and have a little wild rice in my holiday

bird... yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!

:p

minks · Post by **minks** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:36 pm

To conform or not to conform that is the question

Hey and I really don't like people who wanna have a discussion, but won't discuss!!!

Ok sapling ya missed your chance.

TTFN

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:20 pm

Look, can everyone stop being so individualistic please? Its making me nervous. Now I have a mortgage to pay, a T.V. to watch, a celebrity to admire, a war to argue about, a car to drive, an immigrant to blame, and a god to worship. Thank you.

Yours Sincerely

No. 15467-a-65757-bb-768987/0

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:14 pm

Love it when he pulls a #6...............................:wah:

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:55 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Oh, I like that saying LC!

Therefore, thou shalt stuff thyself tomorrow on turkey! Me too!:wah: ah, whether 'tis nobler to be the stuffing or the stuffee? a cosmic question indeed. :yh_yinyan

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:24 pm

Well, I conformed to traditional Turkieyitis, and am stuffed today!

minks · Post by **minks** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:27 pm

chonsigirl wrote: Well, I conformed to traditional Turkieyitis, and am stuffed today!

To Be (stuffed) or not To Be (stuffed)

hmmmm that is the question, is it a question or is it not, hmmm now I've gone and confused myself ahahahaha

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:10 pm

Erm, ladies, I hate to tell you this but when a girl over here mentions that she just got "stuffed," a few eyebrows are raised. I am going to work on the assumption that it is turkeys we are talking about because otherwise this thread becomes a little unsettling.

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:19 pm

i knew that

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:14 pm

Galbally wrote: Erm, ladies, I hate to tell you this but when a girl over here mentions that she just got "stuffed," a few eyebrows are raised. I am going to work on the assumption that it is turkeys we are talking about because otherwise this thread becomes a little unsettling.
That's what makes this so darn funny!!

lady cop · Post by **lady cop** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:16 pm

SnoozeControl wrote: I haven't been stuffed in a blue moon.:-2mmmmpphhhhh

BabyRider · Post by **BabyRider** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:17 pm

lady cop wrote: mmmmpphhhhh

Your tongue hurt, too? :sneaky:

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:19 am

SnoozeControl wrote: I haven't been stuffed in a blue moon.:-2

Oh dear, thats not right. This is all leading back to the thread about language differences. I think I should post in Irish venacular just to see how much of it you get.

hadji · Post by **hadji** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:27 am

BabyRider wrote: Too bad you can't dictate who writes what in here, huh? It's called a democracy, not a dictatorship. Go find your manners.
i've not been rude to anybody, and i've simply tryed to say my peice. the fact that people are ignoring me, just shows me how immature most of them are, especially ladycop, i never said anything rude to her, i took the advice i received, and changed the post that she referred to. i cant see what pissed people off so much? i introduced myself, and frankly, i think after hearing what most of you had to say (not all of you of course) that this forum is generally a waste of bandwith.

hadji · Post by **hadji** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:33 am

i have to thank all of you for making me feel so welcome, its really nice to see such a intelligent group of individuals. please, do talk more of your delictable bacon and whatever else sandwich, im sure everybody on here cares about it.

as for me, im off, i'd like to suggest a painful probing for most of the people on this forum. and please, dont kill yourselves, mankind would indeed miss you.

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:45 am

Now Hadji, people have different opinions. That is the main point of your article, nonconformity. So, you should not be too upset about this.

Come over to the Pub and I'll buy you a diet coke...............that really is all I drink there, it is not a put down.