God the Father and cosmoses

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God the Father and cosmoses

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I assume that there is a God, a Father who have created and is creating cosmoses. Marian sanctuaries are unnecessary and their design is based on false premises. Instead, sanctuaries of the Father of cosmoses should be built, with ultramodern architecture.

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As for estimating the number of universes, we can use the galactic model - that is, the number of galaxies in the universe - to estimate the number of universes at 400 billion. However, the actual number may be fewer, around 50 billion.
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It's an interesting choice of vocabulary.

We can easily agree on a featureless label "God" and recognise there is a moment in the past when a creational event became apparent, prior to which we have no evidence on which to extrapolate our understanding of prior events. I might ascribe that event to physical forces, you might interpret that event to a volitional conscious act. Neither of us has any evidence to present in support of our chosen interpretation.

The metaphor "Father" has a long history, it carries implications. I would at this stage question as follows: what aspect of creation implies longevity to the volitional conscious creator? It seems an additional assumption beyond the volitional conscious creation act itself. I could, for instance, happily construct a cosmogony in which the volitional conscious creator instantiates the universe by a generous self-destruction. This would parallel the notions of the crucifixion for instance, it has theological equivalence.

Moving beyond creation to eternal life is a choice open to the tale-spinner in the absence of evidence. "Father" as a metaphor for progenitor is reasoned vocabulary but I note my father is dead, my father was not eternal unless you add additional tale-spinning elements to this theology.

A final word: sanctuary. I recognise it as implying a place of safety for those exposed to threat. A locus where no attacker can approach and the appellant receives charity allowing indefinite survival, a refuge, a pause in time before re-entering a dangerous world. It is, interestingly, not a word I associate with praise or worship. It's an entirely secular word which may additionally be associated with a god, and often is, but not inevitably.

Perhaps you could comment and extend on my exploration of the words you chose.
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wise47 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:47 am As for estimating the number of universes, we can use the galactic model - that is, the number of galaxies in the universe - to estimate the number of universes at 400 billion. However, the actual number may be fewer, around 50 billion.
May I introduce Edwin Abbott's "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland" Flatland, first published in 1884. He offers a reasoned argument for a continuum rather than a collection of discrete universes, and provides real-world examples I find compelling. If I have a line of any length it has uncountable points on it. He expresses his argument five times, drawing in additional helpful imagery as he does so.
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