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Point 1. Where in the Bible does it mention anything about Magnetism? It can be seen that the Earth's magnetic field switches approximately every half million years, the last one being over 700,000 years ago, as demonstrated in all types of rock, be they sedimentary, metamorphic & igneous, meaning that we are overdue for one. However, according to Creationism this cannot possibly be true. The Creationist version means that layers of rock which, in reality, take millions of years to form, turned from mud to solid rock (which involves first drying out), whilst still underwater. But how are any of these occurences, which happened millions of years ago to be considered as Creationist Predictions? The definition of a Prediction is something that is stated BEFORE the event.
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FourPart;1522944 wrote: Point 1. Where in the Bible does it mention anything about Magnetism? It can be seen that the Earth's magnetic field switches approximately every half million years, the last one being over 700,000 years ago, as demonstrated in all types of rock, be they sedimentary, metamorphic & igneous, meaning that we are overdue for one. However, according to Creationism this cannot possibly be true. The Creationist version means that layers of rock which, in reality, take millions of years to form, turned from mud to solid rock (which involves first drying out), whilst still underwater. But how are any of these occurences, which happened millions of years ago to be considered as Creationist Predictions? The definition of a Prediction is something that is stated BEFORE the event.


Where did I mention magnetism? But since you brought it up, interestingly, the earth's magnetic field proves that the earth couldn't be millions of years old because we only have a few thousand years worth before it all goes away, and life on earth is dependent on this magnetic poll because it partially diffuses the sun's harmful radiation and deflects it around the earth rather than letting it hit us dead on. The layers of rock don't take millions of years to form. They can form rapidly in a few months and they did during the flood about 4,500 years ago. It's from the different types of rock in the different parts of the world sweeping back in forth in the flood waters.
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xfrodobagginsx;1522949 wrote: Where did I mention magnetism? But since you brought it up, interestingly, the earth's magnetic field proves that the earth couldn't be millions of years old because we only have a few thousand years worth before it all goes away, and life on earth is dependent on this magnetic poll because it partially diffuses the sun's harmful radiation and deflects it around the earth rather than letting it hit us dead on. The layers of rock don't take millions of years to form. They can form rapidly in a few months and they did during the flood about 4,500 years ago. It's from the different types of rock in the different parts of the world sweeping back in forth in the flood waters.


Do you even bother to read your own links?

Successful Predictions by Creation Scientists https://answersingenesis.org/creatio...on-scientists/

Prediction 1: Strength of the Planets’ Magnetic Fields There is evidence that every planet and large moon in our solar system, including earth, has—or once had—a magnetic field surrounding it. And since the earth’s creation, its field has been steadily decaying (losing strength), for which Horace Lamb created a model over 100 years ago. More recently (1984), creationist physicist D. Russell Humphreys developed a theory to explain the strength of the magnetic fields of the earth and the other planets. Test Result: Voyager 2’s Measurements If the earth were even 20,000 years old, its magnetic field would have been so strong as to make life impossible, based on the present rate of decay. The theories of Humphreys and Lamb can be used to determine how much the magnetic field of an astronomical object should decay after 6,000 years at the present decay rate. The numbers that resulted from Humphreys’s theory not only matched the strengths of the known magnetic fields at the time but also successfully anticipated Voyager 2’s measurements of the magnetic field of Uranus (in 1986) and Neptune (in 1990). These results not only confirmed a creationist theory but also helped confirm that the solar system really is as young as the Bible claims.,br>

You ask where you mentioned magnets. You are the one who provided the link to that page, with no explanation of what the link was about, are you not? The very first point on the matter was to do with Magnetism, was it not?

Now, I ask again, in what way is any of that a Prediction?
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FourPart;1522952 wrote: Do you even bother to read your own links?

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You ask where you mentioned magnets. You are the one who provided the link to that page, with no explanation of what the link was about, are you not? The very first point on the matter was to do with Magnetism, was it not?

Now, I ask again, in what way is any of that a Prediction?


I actually did read it but it was a couple of weeks ago and your comment was quite random. I post a lot of things on here. Next time please let me know what you are referring to. The article is no longer available for some reason.
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Oh the ignorance that is the foundation of fundamentalism.
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And, of course, WND is such a highly rated Scientific Journal.
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Ted;1523000 wrote: Oh the ignorance that is the foundation of fundamentalism.


It's not ignorance, it's education. You are the ignorant one because we are the ones who know both sides of the story, you only know one side.
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FourPart;1523008 wrote: And, of course, WND is such a highly rated Scientific Journal.


It's not a science website. It's basing the article off of Creation Scientists the same way that the Huffington Post bases their articles off of Evolutionists. It's the same thing, it's just that the Creationists are right.
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"Creation Scientists" is an oxymoron.
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Saint thanks. Great post. According to Bishop John Spong those who cannot accept evolution are basing the view on fear. There is this hope of a life after death and they don'y want to be "Left Behind". I count myself as a Christian but see no conflict between the sacred scriptures. Though the f undies would say I'm totally wrong. Well they are entitles to their opinion. I accept the reality of God.
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LarsMac;1523038 wrote: "Creation Scientists" is an oxymoron.


Evolutionary Scientist is an oxymoron.
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Ted;1523040 wrote: Saint thanks. Great post. According to Bishop John Spong those who cannot accept evolution are basing the view on fear. There is this hope of a life after death and they don'y want to be "Left Behind". I count myself as a Christian but see no conflict between the sacred scriptures. Though the f undies would say I'm totally wrong. Well they are entitles to their opinion. I accept the reality of God.


...basing on the view of Truth. Not gonna be left behind either because I have Christ. You see no conflict with the sacred scriptures? Does this mean that you believe the Bible is God's Word? I can show you Biblically where it directly contradicts evolution in the Bible. As a fundie, I believe what the Bible says. But I also believe the evidence that backs up the Creation account. The earth's magnetic poll depletes at a rate to where the earth couldn't be more than a few thousand years old. The distance of the moon from the earth proves that the earth couldn't be millions of years old. A biogenesis is impossible and has never been shown to happen ever. The list goes on and on and on...
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George, I think you're a moron, not an oxymoron, that'd be a stupid welder. Are you a welder by any chance?

Never mind, just keep strutting your stuff for all to have a bit of a chuckle at it.
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Fuzzy;1523052 wrote: George, I think you're a moron, not an oxymoron, that'd be a stupid welder. Are you a welder by any chance?

Never mind, just keep strutting your stuff for all to have a bit of a chuckle at it.


By George I think you've lost it! A welder? Welders make $50 an hour here in the States. Not sure what they make in your homeland. That would be a step up for me, I am just a Janitor or in professional terms, I am a Sanitary Engineer! I am not looking for acceptance or recognition from you, but it would be nice if you showed a bit of respect and actually looked at the evidence and facts and refuted it with evidence and facts.
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Have been watching a series on the Knowledge network and it would appear that evolution is well accepted in most places. Good channel to watch. In fact other than news I only watch "K" because it has no ads. Ads are getting worse on most regular channels.. Will soon be more ads than programming.
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Ted;1523078 wrote: Have been watching a series on the Knowledge network and it would appear that evolution is well accepted in most places. Good channel to watch. In fact other than news I only watch "K" because it has no ads. Ads are getting worse on most regular channels.. Will soon be more ads than programming.


There is a good reason why evolution is so widely accepted. It's the only viewpoint allowed in schools. If the other side of the issue were presented, I would dare say that most people would not believe it, so they censor other view points from schools.
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Ted;1523078 wrote: Have been watching a series on the Knowledge network and it would appear that evolution is well accepted in most places. Good channel to watch. In fact other than news I only watch "K" because it has no ads. Ads are getting worse on most regular channels.. Will soon be more ads than programming.


There is a good reason why evolution is so widely accepted. It's the only viewpoint allowed in schools. If the other side of the issue were presented, I would dare say that most people would not believe it, so they censor other view points from schools.
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Schools are asked to teach what they perceive as the truth. I have no reason to doubt wheat is being presented. When i was working and students ask questions about evolution I usually referred them to their parents. On some occasions I was personaly told by parents that I ran a Christian school. I never ever said that or even hinted at that. As far as it is concerned it was a public school and thus not a vehicle for preaching. If what I did was looked at I never promoted religion because it has no right to speak of any religion except as a general condition. Religion does not belong in the public schools.
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Xfrod in general terms what happened was immoral and evened and should have been dealt in a court of law. It most certainly did not represent the Christianity that I know. I will leave it to "God" to judge meas I do accept the reality of God.
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Ted;1523119 wrote: Schools are asked to teach what they perceive as the truth. I have no reason to doubt wheat is being presented. When i was working and students ask questions about evolution I usually referred them to their parents. On some occasions I was personaly told by parents that I ran a Christian school. I never ever said that or even hinted at that. As far as it is concerned it was a public school and thus not a vehicle for preaching. If what I did was looked at I never promoted religion because it has no right to speak of any religion except as a general condition. Religion does not belong in the public schools.


Evolution is not taught as a theory in schools, it is taught as fact. It's not a fact, it's not provable and is only a theory. You say religion doesn't belong in schools, then you agree that evolution doesn't belong there because it is a religion. It's an atheistic teaching of how everything came to be without a God. It is faith based. So, the real solution is to allow evolution and creationism to be taught side by side and let the kids decide which they want to believe instead of censoring views that evolutionists disagree with.
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Xfrod In most nations around the world there existes some form of religion. I parents want their children to have a religious faith than teach it to them at home or send them to the church or the mosque. A public school exists to educate and one might have a half a dozen different faiths represented. I as a professional to not believe the school is the place religion in the school.

You liken the teaching of a faith is the same as teaching of creationism. It is not. Creationism if based on human ignorance. Evolution is fact to the intelligent scientist The school`s job is to teach, including science facts no myth. Religion has much to offer all people in spit of those who speak to the contrary. Creationism is simply an idea to try to make the Bible what it is not. Never been in a school that teaches evolution. Those that do I support.

I also support the teaching of religion in the school as long as it is a part of a multi religious presentation about all religions. My answer to kids who asked about a religious topic is to suggest they tdake that to their parents.
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Religions are cultural factors. In any classroom you can have many children of varying faith. To deal with the Muslim faith or to deal with Hinduism or any other faith is simply no feasible nor educational unless one is teaching all faiths.
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Ted;1523137 wrote: Xfrod In most nations around the world there existes some form of religion. I parents want their children to have a religious faith than teach it to them at home or send them to the church or the mosque. A public school exists to educate and one might have a half a dozen different faiths represented. I as a professional to not believe the school is the place religion in the school.



You liken the teaching of a faith is the same as teaching of creationism. It is not. Creationism if based on human ignorance. Evolution is fact to the intelligent scientist The school`s job is to teach, including science facts no myth. Religion has much to offer all people in spit of those who speak to the contrary. Creationism is simply an idea to try to make the Bible what it is not. Never been in a school that teaches evolution. Those that do I support.

I also support the teaching of religion in the school as long as it is a part of a multi religious presentation about all religions. My answer to kids who asked about a religious topic is to suggest they tdake that to their parents.


Well that's not what the Founders of the US thought. They used the Bible as the Primary textbook in US Schools for over 100 years. They used the US Capital Building as a Church every Sunday. They used the Military band as the Worship Band on Sundays. They required soldiers to attend Church. I could go on and on. The point is that your personal view doesn't line up with the precedent of the US Founders. Evolution is a religion and is taught as fact when it certainly is not. Creationism should be taught side by side with it and let people decide for themselves what they want to believe. The Christianity that was taught in Schools was not theological. It was elementary principals, such as love your neighbor, don't steal, things like that. Plus, Jesus is who the Bible says He is.

You can insert your opinion that Creationism is ignorance, but it is based on the same scientific evidence as evolution so it is not ignorance. You need to look at the Creationist side of things.

You have never been in a School that teaches evolution? That's all public Schools teach in the US. I grew up with it.

The problem with your multi culture religion being taught in schools is that the overwhelming majority of people in America identify as Christian, not the other religions. I would say that in the majority Christian areas, Christianity should be taught and in the majority other religion areas, that religion should be taught. If the school were 90% muslim, I would be ok with islam being taught.
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Xfrod creationism is not a fact in science it is an ancient myth. Evolution is indeed a fact. All your lovely words do not change myth into fact. You seem to need all your facts to convince yourself. Do you indeed trust God at all? Myth is very important but not history.
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Ted;1523150 wrote: Xfrod creationism is not a fact in science it is an ancient myth. Evolution is indeed a fact. All your lovely words do not change myth into fact. You seem to need all your facts to convince yourself. Do you indeed trust God at all? Myth is very important but not history.


Everything that you just said about creationism could be said about Evolution. It's not a fact in science, although it is taught as one in schools. It is a myth not scientific. All of your lovely words don't change myth into fact. Although my faith is not dependent on facts, it is nice to know that it is backed up by the facts and evidence. Thanks for playing. Maybe you should actually consider the evidence of Creationists rather than just discounting it as myth. Both creationists and evolutionists look at the same evidence, yet they draw different conclusions from that evidence. Also, you know you have a weak argument when you have to censor the other side and also censor the evidence which refutes your beliefs, which is what evolutionists do.
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Xfrod you are simply unbelievable. Fundamentalism is one of the reasons that Christianity is failing and that is too bad.
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Ted;1523164 wrote: Xfrod you are simply unbelievable. Fundamentalism is one of the reasons that Christianity is failing and that is too bad.


First of all, Fundamentalism is the only true Christianity. If you don't literally place your faith in Jesus Christ alone, believing that He died and rose again, shedding His blood for your sins, you are not a true Christian. He is the only way to heaven. The reason Fundamental Christianity is failing is because Fundamental Christians have sat back and let the liberals take over the media, the schools, the Churches and the Government. Now that we have Fox news and other Conservative outlets to get the truth out and we have Trump, they are shining a huge light on how liberalism is a cancer that destroys everthing it touches.
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I couldn't care less what the founding fathers of the US thought and did. They werre wrong and you are just as wrong or maybe more so. God gave man the intelligence to seek and you deny that.
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Ted;1523174 wrote: I couldn't care less what the founding fathers of the US thought and did. They werre wrong and you are just as wrong or maybe more so. God gave man the intelligence to seek and you deny that.


That's because liberalism wants to destroy the Godly principals that America was Founded upon, that made it the greatest Country in the World and in History. They were right and it is proven by the mass prosperity it has seen. Socialism and Liberalism is like a cancer that destroys prosperity and happyness. It crept in in the 1950s when Russia sent Communists in to infiltrate our Government through the Education system, Media and even in the Churches. They have brainwashed millions in America into somehow thinking America is a bad Country even though it's the greatest Country in the World. Trump is fixing the damage that Obama and other Presidents have done, including some Republicans like Bush. Reagan was a Great President as well and he fixed the economy with Capitalism like Trump is doing.
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Americans have been brainwashed. Is that what you really think then you are belittling your own country. Personally I do not think you have a clue. May the good Lord preserves us from fundamentalism.
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Ted;1523180 wrote: Americans have been brainwashed. Is that what you really think then you are belittling your own country. Personally I do not think you have a clue. May the good Lord preserves us from fundamentalism.


I am not belittling my own Country. I am belittling Liberalism. The same Liberalism that is destroying Europe and it's sad. Europe used to be a God fearing, Christian place. Now it has turned on God and islam and other religions are filling that void and the muslims are taking over there. Europe was at it's greatest when it was fundamental Christian and so was America.
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It sure appears that you are belittlin your own people.
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Ted;1523219 wrote: It sure appears that you are belittlin your own people.


How so?
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Ted;1523180 wrote: Americans have been brainwashed. Is that what you really think then you are belittling your own country. Personally I do not think you have a clue. May the good Lord preserves us from fundamentalism.


I am not belittling my own Country. I am belittling Liberalism. The same Liberalism that is destroying Europe and it's sad. Europe used to be a God fearing, Christian place. Now it has turned on God and islam and other religions are filling that void and the muslims are taking over there. Europe was at it's greatest when it was fundamental Christian and so was America.
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On the bright side, Pahu seems to have either finally listened to reason or given up out of sheer desperation. I'd personally like to see this thread die a lonely death.
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Saint_;1523252 wrote: On the bright side, Pahu seems to have either finally listened to reason or given up out of sheer desperation. I'd personally like to see this thread die a lonely death.


Something must have happened to him. He wouldn't just give up and his points were spot on.
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That is just more ignorant. It's all about wanna be.
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