The observation and asides thread

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:07 pm

RIP....BETTY CUTHBERT

She has died at 79.

She was 18 when she won triple gold in 56' in the Melbourne olympics.

100, 200, and 100 relay. No olympian since has done that.

Her 100 gold was run in 11.05 seconds

And again won gold in Tokyo with injury four years later.

She's considered as one of the golden girls of that period.

She has battled with MS since 1969.

Post by **spot** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:24 am

The BBC has a link headline "Chris Pratt and Anna Faris announce separation after eight years".

I have until now never heard of either of them but I do note the linked stories at the bottom of the article - "Anna Faris: Cohen is a 'comic genius'" (referencing the Borat actor) and "Chris Pratt arm wrestle challenge".

It cannot take much effort to recognize that these are rich properties with publicists. What baffles me is that the BBC reports the content of their gormless self-serving press releases.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:05 am

In truth the BBC isn't much of a publication - I put it on par with Politico, a publication which sickens me. There really isn't much in the way of quality news information outlets out there.

Post by **spot** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:46 am

The BBC from its outset has offered the British people programmes to educate, inform and entertain. The website adjunct to its news department is a trivial and temporary afterthought, newly arrived and already in desperate need of reform and improvement.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:27 am

Yeah, that's how I always viewed The BBC, sort of like our PBS, though PBS has been going to $hit lately. Some of the programmings on The BBC are outstanding.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:30 am

magentaflame;1511527 wrote: And now grand juries?....... someone really needs to put that shovel down . It not that the holes' getting deeper ,they just might hit a gas line. And the smoking gun in the area may ignite it

LOL! That's awesome. I'm stealing that line.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:31 am

Personally, I think the whole thing will go nuclear when they get into his business dealings with Russian oligarchs....or anybody really.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:44 pm

Its recently been alledged that Putins and other rich Russians business dealings are illegal. If Trump has been doing business with them there will be trouble. Even Trumps business dealings in SE Asia are a bit iffy.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:07 pm

And another passes away.... the Witchita lineman has died. Thats a shame.

Might have a Glen Campbell music day today.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:21 am

magentaflame;1511634 wrote: And another passes away.... the Witchita lineman has died. Thats a shame.

Might have a Glen Campbell music day today.

He has been gone a long time.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:37 am

The next generation of people watching as their peers die off - each waiting for their time and hoping it won't be painful.

I came close one night not long ago. I woke up to my lungs filling with fluid. Gasping for air as I sat up I found myself angry that I wasn't capable to just allow it to happen. I understand there's a point at which there's no more struggle. I so wanted to get there but fought for air.

I'm considering it a trial run and hoping to do better next time.

My mother-in-law died that way. She called from her basement apartment upstairs to her daughter. They made out that she said she couldn't breathe. By the time they made it to her she was blue and peaceful and pushed them away when they tried to give her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:40 am

Ahso!;1511644 wrote:

I came close one night not long ago.
Oh No!:yh_brokeh

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:03 pm

LarsMac;1511642 wrote: He has been gone a long time.

Those with dementia are people too you know. And im sad that he died before a cure. One day it will come.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:17 pm

magentaflame;1511653 wrote: Those with dementia are people too you know. And im sad that he died before a cure. One day it will come.

That is true. My first experience with Alzheimer's Dementia was my paternal grandmother. She began that horrible journey at 64. and finally was put to rest at 86.

It haunts me every time I cannot remember someone's name.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:47 am

My father and mother were both affected.

He lost the power of speech, but retained his sense of humour.

I detested visiting my mother, having to introduce yourself and getting no reaction.

I have had a lifetime of never remembering names, I hope that is not my future, for my kids sake........................I wont know any better.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:19 am

My mother had Alzheimer's in her later years. Some days she would remember me and other days not. One day, when she didn't remember me, I asked her about her son and she regaled me with very detailed and factual stories about my childhood, including some things I never knew before.

It is a cruel disease.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:58 pm

Theres a rowl going on in Australia at the moment about. "Milk" . Apparently i may get confused between milk from a cow and soy milk.

The dairy industry wants to stop extracts from plants being called 'milk' .... traditionally known to be taken from an animal.

Im not sure about you lot but im pretty sure i know the difference between something that goes "moo" and a tree. Im not confused at all.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:43 pm

I actually have nothing to say this morning..... i came here and saw all the religous garbage. I thought i would put a different thread at the top of the page so visitors didnt think this was a solely religous site.

Oh...no hang on!.... just applied to work at the Commonwealth games on the gold coast..wish me luck.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:50 pm

magentaflame;1511891 wrote: I actually have nothing to say this morning..... i came here and saw all the religous garbage. I thought i would put a different thread at the top of the page so visitors didnt think this was a solely religous site.

Oh...no hang on!.... just applied to work at the Commonwealth games on the gold coast..wish me luck.

Good luck, can imagine it would be a wonderful experience!! :-6

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:18 pm

If someone wants to pay my flightsand accommadation and to walk around in a sub tropical climate......i feel obligated to comply....hee hee. We'll see though. But presently its country football finals. I like country footy

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:24 pm

Uh oh! North korea has just fired a missile over japan proper!

Thats not good!

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:43 pm

There has been a bit of a furore over trumps mrs wearing high heels to visit flooded states.

Now i dont really care what she wears to any event, but i did think about how removed from reality some people are when they are entering a disaster zone looking like you're about to stroll down a catwalk.

Bit of a slap in the face for the victims when the bosses wife obviously isnt getting her feet wet.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:38 pm

magentaflame;1512008 wrote: There has been a bit of a furore over trumps mrs wearing high heels to visit flooded states.

Now i dont really care what she wears to any event, but i did think about how removed from reality some people are when they are entering a disaster zone looking like you're about to stroll down a catwalk.

Bit of a slap in the face for the victims when the bosses wife obviously isnt getting her feet wet.

Yeah, I think its a real danger for rich people. They are so used to being entitled and protected that they really don't realize what total jerks the rest of the human race sees them as. The only rich person I ever saw that didn't have attitude was Princess Diana.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Saint_;1512014 wrote: Yeah, I think its a real danger for rich people. They are so used to being entitled and protected that they really don't realize what total jerks the rest of the human race sees them as. The only rich person I ever saw that didn't have attitude was Princess Diana.

Oh she had attitude, all right. She was quite likeable, but didn't take an crap from anyone.

I used to know a number of rich people who didn't have that rich people attitude. I remember this one older couple who lived on Jupiter Island. They did all their own gardening, and would haul dirt and plants and stuff in their old Rolls, pumped their own gas, and would have lunch at the truck stop. They would tip generously and donated to a lot of charities. They delightful people.

Then there was Polly Carnegie, "the Cross Red Nurse" who spent her time helping poor people in Tallahassee, and making sure that young folks were exposed to Arts.

If I ever get rich, I promise to be like those folks.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:04 pm

At the very least its very bad taste.

On the subject of Diana..... is any other country being inundated with 'Diana doco's'. Its been very full on here over the last two months.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:08 pm

magentaflame;1512018 wrote: At the very least its very bad taste.

On the subject of Diana..... is any other country being inundated with 'Diana doco's'. Its been very full on here over the last two months.

Oh, yes. I now know more about Diana than I know of any other Brit, ever. And I was just passing by while the Missus was watching.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:10 pm

LarsMac;1512017 wrote: Oh she had attitude, all right. She was quite likeable, but didn't take an crap from anyone.

I used to know a number of rich people who didn't have that rich people attitude. I remember this one older couple who lived on Jupiter Island. They did all their own gardening, and would haul dirt and plants and stuff in their old Rolls, pumped their own gas, and would have lunch at the truck stop. They would tip generously and donated to a lot of charities. They delightful people.

Then there was Polly Carnegie, "the Cross Red Nurse" who spent her time helping poor people in Tallahassee, and making sure that young folks were exposed to Arts.

If I ever get rich, I promise to be like those folks.

You dont have to be rich to be generous. I growmy own veges......always grow too much. I give it away. This spring and summer im going to put the vege in containers at my letterbox with a sign "free fruut and vege". And it doesnt take a brain surgeon to grow herbs in your front garden or nature strip for people to help themselves.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:20 pm

And it has begun!

The same sex marriage debarcle/plebicite postal vote/anti same sex marriage adverts/religious freedom......blah blah blah!

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:24 pm

And youll never guess what the major hold up is.....remember a bakery was sued ( i think it was Canada?)for not baking a cake for a gay wedding? Well apparently that situation is worse than korea missiles having us in bombing range.

Post by **LarsMac** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:27 pm

magentaflame;1512025 wrote: And youll never guess what the major hold up is.....remember a bakery was sued ( i think it was Canada?)for not baking a cake for a gay wedding? Well apparently that situation is worse than korea missiles having us in bombing range.

That was here in Colorado. And yes. It's so much more important than blowing world up to some of my neighbors.

Post by **spot** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:20 am

The issue is that it's discrimination in the course of trade. If the head of Google Adsense decided that as a committed born-again Christian her conscience would not allow her to accept any advertising offers from gay applicants presumably there would be a legitimate outcry. I don't see how the bakery is in a different boat.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:47 am

magentaflame;1512018 wrote: On the subject of Diana..... is any other country being inundated with 'Diana doco's'. Its been very full on here over the last two months.

If you have it and America has it, what about us here ?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:50 am

magentaflame;1512008 wrote: There has been a bit of a furore over trumps mrs wearing high heels to visit flooded states.

I am not running to her defence.......................but.....I saw photos of her getting on the plane in high heels and getting off in trainers.

May be false news ?

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:57 pm

Unless my tv is lying......ha ha ha! As if!.....i saw her in high heels. Its just not a good look. Gumboots or waders would have been more appropriate.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:05 pm

spot;1512035 wrote: The issue is that it's discrimination in the course of trade. If the head of Google Adsense decided that as a committed born-again Christian her conscience would not allow her to accept any advertising offers from gay applicants presumably there would be a legitimate outcry. I don't see how the bakery is in a different boat.

Trade wise....Whats lawfully funny, is if christians vote for same sex marriage they will be protected under the freedom of religion laws. Freedom of religion would protect them from having to participate in a practice against their religion.

But....

If they were to refuse participating in a civil union they would be breaking anti discrimination laws.

So to vote Yes to gay marriage would be in their best interest. Lol

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:58 pm

I guess some are still fighting that same stupid battle. I see nothing wrong in gay or lesbian marriage. The opposition is mindless.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:16 pm

Yep, if you dont like it.....dont do it. And i include lbgti people as well. I can see the domestics now in gay homes, where one doesnt believe in marriage at all but being pressured to do so now. Not even in hetrosexual land is everyone the sharing caring kind.

And my son informs me that a Pastor near where i live is in the anti tv ads.

Talking of which....they dont make sense. One woman -a doctor...says that these extreme beliefs wont sit well with chinese parents. Last time i checked im not in china.

Then another says that her son was told he could where a dress to school next year if he wanted to. Since foubd out to be bull**** ....thats in relatiin to the safe schools pamphlet to bring awareness. To keeping lbgti kids safe

Could someibe tell me what the **** that has to do with same sex marriage?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:26 pm

Magentaflame I can agree with that completely.

Post by **spot** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:42 am

I'm fairly sure this is against the ForumGarden terms and conditions but if anyone wants to get a hot meal on a table this week in Texas, Hurricane Harvey Response is probably the most effective place to pay for it.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:13 pm

The link only shows a bit of writing.....are you saying survivors are having to pay for food from relief providers?

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:52 pm

magentaflame;1512152 wrote: The link only shows a bit of writing.....are you saying survivors are having to pay for food from relief providers?

No. You can use the page to donate to the Episcopal Church relief efforts.

The Salvation Army has a similar web page. As does the Red Cross and several other relief organizations.

Post by **spot** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:20 pm

magentaflame;1512152 wrote: The link only shows a bit of writing.....are you saying survivors are having to pay for food from relief providers?

As Lars says, it's a donations page. Donations appeals are pretty much against T&C so I broke a rule.

I saw the page mentioned on Heather Lende's blog which I get by email - the blog post is at Wet Dogs and Hurricanes | Heather Lende and she's well worth reading each week. She lives in the back of beyond in Alaska so she has perspective and neighbors who matter.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Need a plastic christmas tree? Theyre in stores now.

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:45 am

It always amazes me, the herd mentality of humans under stress.

I am following a couple of threads on other forums regarding the Hurricane (Irma) making its way toward Florida.

I also have a lot of family and friends in South Florida, preparing to either hunker down and ride it out, or to leave for higher ground.

People are leaving by the thousands, and they all seem to be packing the major highway, I-75, I-95, and the Florida Turnpike. Those roads are completely clogged.

A Google Map of the state will show a number of other roads leading out of Florida to safer, high ground, far from the forecast track of the storm. Yet, enabling "Traffic" on Maps will show most of these roads are clean and green for hundreds of miles, while the two Interstate highways are nearly completely red, indicating stalled, or very slow moving traffic.

A few years ago, we lived in Eastern North Carolina when Mitch was coming. I was working for a support Call Center near Research Triangle Park at the time. We decided to go to a hotel near the call center. The Interstate Highway was horribly clogged as people fled the lowlands. I decided to try another highway (US-70) which the Interstate paralleled. It was completely clear of traffic, as everybody though the interstate was the only way to go.

The US Highway crossed the interstate several times on the way to Raleigh, and we could see the parking lot each time. Yet none of those people ever seemed to think of exiting the parking lot and driving the "back roads"

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:54 pm

And what about the sign language guys?

Ive had enough of these people! They are way to distracting!

The bloke i saw this morning looked like he was going for an academy award. What a bloody performance!

I hardly heard the official and what he was saying about waters rising to 6 to 12 foot , he was being upstaged by the handsign guy.

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:46 pm

magentaflame;1512307 wrote: And what about the sign language guys?

Ive had enough of these people! They are way to distracting!

The bloke i saw this morning looked like he was going for an academy award. What a bloody performance!

I hardly heard the official and what he was saying about waters rising to 6 to 12 foot , he was being upstaged by the handsign guy.

I know a little sign language, and try to follow those people, sometimes. It's really hard to follow the words, and the sign, sometimes, and I get completely lost.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:08 pm

No one noticed his facial expressions..... and wind noises?.....nobody sees a problem there? He's a handsigner and he's making noises.

My avatar is a pic of my driveway..... im tipping floridas' skies are looking a bit like that presently

Post by **LarsMac** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:40 pm

magentaflame;1512309 wrote: No one noticed his facial expressions..... and wind noises?.....nobody sees a problem there? He's a handsigner and he's making noises.

My avatar is a pic of my driveway..... im tipping floridas' skies are looking a bit like that presently

Well, here is what it looks like where I grew up:

Post by **spot** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:57 am

The answer to the sign language guys is to invariably refuse to watch any program where they can't be turned off. As an optional extra they're no doubt useful, but when they're a requirement the channel selector is the only form of protest.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:09 pm

Well looks like they fixed it.... older woman in black, just signing. No song and dance , just signing.