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Ahso!;1505297 wrote: It would be interesting if a secondary reason for Pence as a VP pick would be to think twice before dumping Trump.

Trump should think seriously about throwing a few bones to liberals to try and accommodate and calm them down if he makes it past this one. Otherwise he's gong to be dogged non-stop.


Good point. However, concerning Pence, he is the man the Koch brothers wanted as president. They have more money any day of the week; mucho influence, too. The Republicans, at the core, don't like DT one little bit. A few bones to liberals, that's smart & sassy, ahso. Like it.
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I think your average redneck only uses the words pinko, commie and red in this context. Socialist is slightly obscure.

What puzzles me is that Americans knowingly elected the former owner of the Miss Universe Organization as its President and now sit amazed when he's accused of romping naked with the pageant contestants in Moscow while a KGB film crew records the explicit details. You'd think consistency requires them to applaud.
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Ahso!;1505297 wrote: It would be interesting if a secondary reason for Pence as a VP pick would be to think twice before dumping Trump.

Trump should think seriously about throwing a few bones to liberals to try and accommodate and calm them down if he makes it past this one. Otherwise he's gong to be dogged non-stop.OTOH - It's worth considering whether or not the choice of Pence was somehow a hard-sell to Trump figuring (behind Trump's back) that whomever the VP would be was destined to step in when Trump was pushed out.

I'm not familiar enough with the constitution to know if there is any way to nullify the election results and have a re-vote. I'd hope if there were any such possibility that new candidates on both sides would be in the offering.

Trump and his cabinet choices are obviously not in sync.
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I think there's a better approach than guessing, I think there's logic. You can ask yourself whether, in general, from what you're seen in the news, politicians tend to act more in the interests of America or of Russia when it's hard to see what benefit they're getting for their own country.




You're assuming this has anything to do with what's best for the country. Follow the money what does exxon get out of it and all the others trump is appointing what are their business interests and how will they benefit with trump in office. Putin is getting a free hand in europe be interesting to see if trump orders home the troops obama sent to poland recently, and in the middle east putin/turkey oil.

Looks like the dossier does actually have credibility

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele's frustration as FBI sat on Donald Trump Russia file for months | The Independent

In the same month Mr Steele produced a memo, which went to the FBI, stating that Mr Trump’s campaign team had agreed to a Russian request to dilute attention on Moscow’s intervention in Ukraine. Four days later Mr Trump stated that he would recognise Moscow’s annexation of Crimea. A month later officials involved in his campaign asked the Republican party’s election platform to remove a pledge for military assistance to the Ukrainian government against separatist rebels in the east of the country.


He's got a republican congress and senate if they decide to back him and not do their jobs to check his power as president how likely is it he will be impeached or even taken to court over his business ventures.
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Ahso!;1505130 wrote: If you have another theory as to why the intelligence community, along with the current president and the media would embarrass themselves to this degree and appear completely daft and incompetent to put trash like this out and then try to spin it like they are, I'd like to hear it because I don't see any other reason for it other than to box him in on foreign policy toward Russia. If this is not a transparent attempt to publicly pull Trump away from Putin or be viewed as close to a traitor as they can get, what in the world can it be?

ETA: This is also more evidence that Obama is nothing more than a yes man. What a wuss.Speaking of other theories, plenty are beginning to circulate.

It's worth wondering why Trump chose this Russian issue to take such a hard stand on and fight with the very institution he's about to head. Something's not right.

Then there's the obvious ethics issues. Trump is essentially wanting to take a leave of absence from his businesses while he serves as president. Surely anyone can comprehend the conflicts of interest in that idea.

FYI: Did anyone here know that the law firm Trump uses is among the most prestigious firms in Russia as well?

https://www.morganlewis.com/news/chambe ... f-the-year
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If Trump turns his full rage on the spooks – and he has barely got started – reminding Americans of the debacle of the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that never were, conveniently omitting to mention the pressure the Bush administration put on the spies to produce the answers it wanted to hear – who’s to say that’s a battle he won’t win?

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spot;1505350 wrote: If Trump turns his full rage on the spooks – and he has barely got started – reminding Americans of the debacle of the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that never were, conveniently omitting to mention the pressure the Bush administration put on the spies to produce the answers it wanted to hear – who’s to say that’s a battle he won’t win?

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One can only hope.


The americans at least have theior comnstitution to help them deal wi him we are stuck with a political system that is probably going to mean tory governments in england for the nect few years at least - can't see them going for electoral reform can you? Roll on indyref 2.
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Been busy with life in a good way the last couple of weeks. :)

Ahso: I've been interested in US politics for decades now, since it affects the whole world. Also it's quite interesting in it's own right as a system different to ours. But with Brexit and Trump seeming parts of the same movement the interest has escalated. Far right British politicians have been crawling up Trump's rump for weeks now. It's utterly gagworthy.

DID you hear the joke going round after the referendum but before the US election? The UK and the USA are having a competition to see who can muck themselves up the most. The UK is leading but the US has a Trump card...
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Larsmac: I think WW1 was kicked off by mediaeval states with modern technologies and armies failing to conduct effective diplomacy, especially Germany under the Kaiser. The assassination in Sarajevo was the flashpoint, but even after that Germany could have stopped the war but didn't, because the Kaiser actually quite fancied a victory or two before Christmas and a victorious peace. Didn't quite work out that way.
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Ahso!;1505140 wrote: That's all true, I think, but what we can comment on is what's playing out in front of us. This stuff usually plays out behind the scenes and the public rarely get wind of most of it. Trump's tweeting gives us access.

Some of the corporate news agencies have been reporting that Mattis and the Trump transition team have been wrestling over appointments under Mattis. Of course anything that happens now is going to magnified in the press and on tv.

Also, Trump has ordered all of Obama's diplomatic appointments be gone by January 20th which I understand is a bit unusual. They have little time to scram and Trump has little time to fill the positions. It appears there will be at least a few empty embassies for some time.

Trump wants a clean slate right away. His attitude on all this is what he campaigned on, so he's following through.


To be clear on that point all presidential appointees always offer up their resignation effective the day the new term begins (even if the president gets re-elected) and the the president-elect has the option to accept or reject those resignations.



I doubt that Trump exercised the effort it would take to determine if any were worth keeping around.
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Clodhopper;1505381 wrote: Larsmac: I think WW1 was kicked off by mediaeval states with modern technologies and armies failing to conduct effective diplomacy, especially Germany under the Kaiser. The assassination in Sarajevo was the flashpoint, but even after that Germany could have stopped the war but didn't, because the Kaiser actually quite fancied a victory or two before Christmas and a victorious peace. Didn't quite work out that way.


It was, indeed, a very complex set of circumstances. However my comment was simply about the match that lit the fire.
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LarsMac;1505395 wrote: To be clear on that point all presidential appointees always offer up their resignation effective the day the new term begins (even if the president gets re-elected) and the the president-elect has the option to accept or reject those resignations.



I doubt that Trump exercised the effort it would take to determine if any were worth keeping around. Donald Trump has upended the lives of many US ambassadors abroad by refusing to grant the traditional grace period after he's inaugurated. Instead, Trump wants all politically appointed ambassadors installed by President Obama to be gone on Jan. 20, the New York Times. Such ambassadors, as opposed to career diplomats, usually depart soon after the president that appointed them, but exceptions have traditionally been made for those with school-age children. US Ambassador to New Zealand Mark Gilbert tells Reuters that he'll be departing Jan. 20 under a Trump mandate issued "without exceptions."Trump Breaks With Tradition on Obama's Ambassadors, Wants Them Out Jan. 20
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Ahso!;1505400 wrote: Trump Breaks With Tradition on Obama's Ambassadors, Wants Them Out Jan. 20


Yep. That is the popular news thing that's been going around.

A lot of normally reliable publications have propagated the thing. However, it's not exactly the whole story.

More gossip-mongering posing as news.

Don't feel bad. We all fall victim to the faux news syndrome, now and again. It's not just for FOX viewers, anymore.

The lefties are getting really good at it, too.

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Perhaps you can direct me to the rest of the story?
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Ahso!;1505402 wrote: Perhaps you can direct me to the rest of the story?


Well, I got the word "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak.

A fellow with whom I have enjoyed coffee regularly over a number of years was an attache' to an Ambassador during the W administration. Naturally, the subject came up in a recent conversation, and he explained it to me.

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I've heard before the part about the resignations being due at the end of each cycle. Maybe it's a question of allowances in order to be able to afford to remain until such time as school is out. Does that jive with what your friend says?
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Ahso!;1505406 wrote: I've heard before the part about the resignations being due at the end of each cycle. Maybe it's a question of allowances in order to be able to afford to remain until such time as school is out. Does that jive with what your friend says?


They are not required to leave wherever they are living, and take their kids out of school and such. They are just required to vacate their desks and go find another job.

People in the Diplomatic Corps tend to plan ahead for foreseeable future events, you know.
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LarsMac;1505411 wrote: They are not required to leave wherever they are living, and take their kids out of school and such. They are just required to vacate their desks and go find another job.I'm well aware of that. Your friend says that there has never been a tradition of extending resources or perhaps employment to suit anyone's needs? Do I have that correct?
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Ahso!;1505414 wrote: I'm well aware of that. Your friend says that there has never been a tradition of extending resources or perhaps employment to suit anyone's needs? Do I have that correct?


No, I did not hear my friend say anything to that effect.

My friend said that, yes, there are times when exceptions are made, and on a case by case basis per request, that an extension may be granted, for whatever reason, and even times when the incoming president has chosen to keep someone on permanently.

It would appear that the Trump team opted to simply accept all resignations as presented, and has chosen to not consider any requests for exemptions. Any such extensions or exemptions would require a submission of said request by the personnel, and research on the part of the new President's transition team.

We are left to assume since we have no data on any such requests being submitted or if/when said requests were denied.
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We seem, from the standpoint of these last few days before the inauguration, the quiet before the storm breaks, to be watching someone unique among Presidents-elect - a man who looks down on politicians of every hue and their intelligence lackeys as vermin to be caged, humiliated, controlled and if possible tamed. It is quite definitely not just more of the same.
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LarsMac;1505404 wrote: Well, I got the word "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak.

A fellow with whom I have enjoyed coffee regularly over a number of years was an attache' to an Ambassador during the W administration. Naturally, the subject came up in a recent conversation, and he explained it to me.

You can also ask Snopes, or Factcheck


It is one of those things where it is best not to jump the gun.

Just wait and see.
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tude dog;1505424 wrote: It is one of those things where it is best not to jump the gun.

Just wait and see.


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Would anyone like a quote?

This is the fundamental problem with the ruling class in Washington, DC—the party bosses, the K Street crowd, the lobbyists who control all these politicians. They will do anything to maintain their power. They will do anything. They will say anything. They will spend whatever it takes because they know that if Donald Trump becomes the nominee and ultimately the president of the United States, the days of backroom deals are over. He will only be responsible to the American people.

Who said it? Corey Lewandowski said it.

Who he? Come on, pay more attention, you're meant to know these things. Mr. Lewandowski previously served as the Chief Political Adviser and Campaign Manager to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. In those roles, he oversaw all aspects of a historic presidential campaign where Donald J. Trump won 38 Republican primaries and caucuses, and received more votes than any presidential candidate in the history of the Republican Party. Through Mr. Lewandowski’s leadership, Mr. Trump secured the Republican nomination for President of the United States while only spending a fraction of the money his competitors spent over the same period of time. Mr. Lewandowski is credited with running a skillfully disruptive political campaign and is often cited as a visionary on understanding the moods and pulse of the American people.

That's from https://www.avenuestrategies.com/lewandowski/ - Mr Lewandowski’s spanking brand new Washington lobbying firm.

He insisted he should not be portrayed as “cashing in, which is absolutely factually incorrect. The claim that he “got into this business so I could make money, Lewandowski added, “is absolutely disgusting.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... gn-manager



Business as usual in Washington's Republican power circles, then.

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Yuppers.

Business as usual.

Well, not exactly. The Republicans own the Capital and are already beginning the dismantling of many policies that have been in place to protect the people from themselves, and from big business. The Egocrat and his pirates are looting the White House, not unlike the way the Bolsheviks looted the palace in St Petersburg a hundred years earlier.

I think being out west will prove to be some cushion to the new revolution. We will be able to maintain some level of autocracy through the next few years.
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Here's a summary of Trumpolini's hour-long phone call with President Putin.

Vladimir Putin congratulated Donald Trump on taking office and wished him every success in his work.

During the conversation, both sides expressed their readiness to make active joint efforts to stabilise and develop Russia-US cooperation on a constructive, equitable and mutually beneficial basis.

Mr Putin and Mr Trump had a detailed discussion of pressing international issues, including the fight against terrorism, the situation in the Middle East, the Arab-Israeli conflict, strategic stability and non-proliferation, the situation with Iran’s nuclear programme, and the Korean Peninsula issue. The discussion also touched upon the main aspects of the Ukrainian crisis. The sides agreed to build up partner cooperation in these and other areas.

The two leaders emphasised that joining efforts in fighting the main threat – international terrorism – is a top priority. The presidents spoke out for establishing real coordination of actions between Russia and the USA aimed at defeating ISIS and other terrorists groups in Syria.

The sides stressed the importance of rebuilding mutually beneficial trade and economic ties between the two counties’ business communities, which could give an additional impetus to progressive and sustainable development of bilateral relations.

Mr Putin and Mr Trump agreed to issue instructions to work out the possible date and venue for their meeting.

Donald Trump asked to convey his wishes of happiness and prosperity to the Russian people, saying that the American people have warm feelings towards Russia and its citizens.

Vladimir Putin, in turn, emphasised that the feeling is mutual, adding that for over two centuries Russia has supported the United States, was its ally during the two world wars, and now sees the United States as a major partner in fighting international terrorism.

The two leaders agreed to maintain regular personal contacts.

The conversation took place in a positive and constructive atmosphere.

Telephone conversation with US President Donald Trump and President of Russia



Couldn't be better, eh? It's nice to see something positive for once. Who knows what they might achieve from a position of cooperation.
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I could remind you that Kipling had nothing bad to say about Kaa. All the perversions of those stories are American.
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America is populated by far too many insanely paranoid people in uniform.A former prime minister of Norway has spoken of his shock after he was held and questioned at Washington Dulles airport because of a visit to Iran three years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... visit-iran



This is what happens when pettifogging officials are egged on by Exceptionalist Presidents.
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Nobody owns a monopoly on alternate facts.

It is a political tradition.
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tude dog;1506294 wrote: Nobody owns a monopoly on alternate facts.

It is a political tradition.


No such thing as alternate facts. There are facts which can be verified and then there are lies which cannot. if you believe in "facts" which cannot be verified they are called delusions. Trump is not the mesiah he's a very naughty boy.
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gmc;1506313 wrote: No such thing as alternate facts. There are facts which can be verified and then there are lies which cannot. if you believe in "facts" which cannot be verified they are called delusions. Trump is not the mesiah he's a very naughty boy.


Call it what you think it is.

Lies.

What a way to shut down a discussion.
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tude dog;1506314 wrote: Call it what you think it is.

Lies.

What a way to shut down a discussion.


A spade is a spade whatever you call it.
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tude dog;1506314 wrote: Call it what you think it is.

Lies.

What a way to shut down a discussion.


If they weren't coming out with lies they would be able to prove they were true - just insisting something is true doesn't make it so. Lie - would you prefer made up story instead. What is it about americans that you can't have a good argument with them without them taking everything personally. People disagree this is a discussion forum it's no fun if we all agree.
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Real facts are proven bit of reality.

Alternative facts are lies.

If you base your life on alternative facts you are basing your life on lies.

It rarely ends well.
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Euphemistic truth.....................sounds better than lie.
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Bruv;1506390 wrote: Euphemistic truth.....................sounds better than lie.


Different things. A euphemistic truth is a nasty truth wrapped up in optimistic language.
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spot;1506392 wrote: Different things. A euphemistic truth is a nasty truth wrapped up in optimistic language.


I bow to your better knowledge......although Google says........

"Euphemism"= a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

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The inestimable John Bercow, who has adorned the House of Commons both as an MP in opposition and as Speaker of the House, has decided (it being his decision to make) to ban President Trump from addressing the British Parliament during his State Visit, assuming he's allowed a State Visit.

Speaker John Bercow has said he would be opposed to US President Donald Trump speaking in the Houses of Parliament during his state visit to the UK.

Speaker Bercow: Trump should not speak in Parliament - BBC News

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Perhaps. Although I think he may only do one term by choice opening it up for Mike Pence.
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ezworldwide;1506485 wrote: Perhaps. Although I think he may only do one term by choice opening it up for Mike Pence.


What a horrible thought :eek:
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ezworldwide;1506485 wrote: he may only do one term by choice opening it up for Mike Pence.


The British have erected altars in our major cities where daily prayers invoke long life for President Trump, solely to avoid the promotion of this Pence chap. Your Vice President makes Ming the Merciless look like Mother Teresa.
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When was the last time Donald Trump put aside his ego to open anything up for anyone else? I'll wait!
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spot;1506491 wrote: The British have erected altars in our major cities where daily prayers invoke long life for President Trump, solely to avoid the promotion of this Pence chap. Your Vice President makes Ming the Merciless look like Mother Teresa.You would not have had to try very hard to do better than that.
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The internal power struggle within the Trump White House has brought down the National Security Advisor, a military chap. One of a large number of military chaps in this administration. Michael T. Flynn, a retired United States Army Lieutenant General, now retired yet again except you can be pretty certain he owns a lobbying company by now like all the other ousted contestants. Deliberately brought down by Vice President Pence and Jim Mattis, by the look of things.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38965557

It is, apparently and much to my surprise, "illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy".









The run-up to the public evisceration involved Kellyanne bailing for all she was worth: Just after 4pm on Monday afternoon, Conway appeared on MSNBC to affirm the president’s confidence in Flynn. Afterwards, reporters followed up with her about Flynn’s status. Conway reacted skeptically to questioning about whether Flynn mislead Pence; “Why do you say he did? she asked reporters.

She also noted pointedly that Flynn had worked with Trump all weekend and was “the point person both for Trump’s meeting with Trudeau earlier in the day as well as his scheduled meeting with the Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu later in the week. Conway dismissed speculation over why Trump hadn’t responded personally to any of the reporting. “You should read nothing into that. I mean he’s just not going to respond to every screaming headline, she said of the president. Less than an hour later he did.

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Why Trumpolini threw General Flynn to the wolves I've no idea, he should have kept his nerve.
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The neocons and liberal hawks (with the backing of the corporate media) are working extra hard to chip away at anything or anyone associated with any Russian ties within the Trump white house. Pence would be the go-to guy in that department, I'd think. Pence, while a buffoon intellectually, though a seemingly nice guy on the surface, is perfect to be manipulated. He's most likely doing what he believes he needs to in order to garner support for himself for when he (if he) is to step into the presidency. A prospect that is even scarier than Trump. Pence is everything Reagan wished he could have been.

What I don't understand is why Flynn came out and did the putting Iran on notice jig unless it was a bone for the neocons to try and win favor. Iran and Russia have decent relations as far as I know, and Flynn knows very well that Iran is not the sponsor of terrorism the neocons and media keep insisting they are.

Flynn's departure is a win for neocons and the media.
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spot;1506491 wrote: The British have erected altars in our major cities where daily prayers invoke long life for President Trump, solely to avoid the promotion of this Pence chap. Your Vice President makes Ming the Merciless look like Mother Teresa.


Really. Why don't you post a picture of one of them? One you didn't build yourself, of course.
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The concept of obvious grotesquely hyperbolic undeniable transparent lying for the sake of effect when making a point may have escaped your notice. We have no altars, we do not pray and we clearly regard your laughingstock President as expendable, but the suggestion that Mike Pence is a worse option may well have merit.

Meanwhile the public elimination round within the Administration intensifies: "Spicer, in contradiction to statements made by the senior White House aide Kellyanne Conway earlier on Tuesday, insisted that Trump had asked for Flynn’s resignation and that it was not the national security adviser’s decision".

My own preference is for Sean Spicer to topple, Kellyanne has such an uncontrolled mouth on her she's guaranteed to screw up any situation she ever touches, she's the freeway pileup in human form.





eta: and now she's claiming other people tweet through her Twitter account and she has no idea who has access to it? What utter cobblers. If that's actually true she still has to accept responsibility for the fact, and the tweet. Obviously.

Speaking to Buzzfeed News, who first highlighted the exchange, Ms Conway denied she had sent the tweet.

“I don’t know who had access to my account," she said on Tuesday.

“Let me see who tweeted that. That’s terrible.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81106.html

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I was just joking doofus, but I appreciate your answer nonetheless. 8->
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That's by no means apparent in the text of your post.
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I apologize. Should have added LOL, or a wink. Will do so in future.
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