Will President Trump run for a second term?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:45 pm

tude dog;1501569 wrote:

All things considered, often polls ask if the nation is in the wrong direction, I wonder just what direction the people want us to go?

Excellent question. When it was discovered so many did not like Obamacare, it was because so many (like yours truly) thought it did not go far enough. You made a very good point. Polls are weak in the pulse checking department as the pollsters do not question in depth.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:03 pm

Momus;1501748 wrote: For heavens sake, get over it. It was a private conversation between men years ago. If you think that is unacceptable, then go to Blackpool and observe a typical hen night, Trump is a man being a man talking as men talk.

Geeze, man talking? That boy is sick and needs some serious couch time with a shrink.

I would expect that from a 20-year-old nudnick, not a 60-year-old "man". How many times since as a 70-year-old running for president make insulting comments about women?

Momus;1501748 wrote: You think women never talk like that? I've heard school girls on buses that would put Trump to shame.

School girls? One can only hope they grow out of it and become ladies. Trumphole is a lost cause.

Momus;1501748 wrote: Give me a man who talks like a man

Based on what you just wrote I doubt you really know man talk.

Momus;1501748 wrote: over a proven liar.

Good one.

Momus;1501748 wrote: Also remember, Americans are not voting Trump because they want Trump. They are voting Trump because the alternative is just too frightening to even think of.

That is a novel take on it.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:12 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501752 wrote: You mean like your wife? Pretty sure you once said.......... :yh_rotfl

lol

In this house talk of the election is toxic. I cannot say enough how horrible Trump is to satisfy the Mrs. For peace sake it is best to avoid any discussion about Clinton.:guitarist

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:13 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501751 wrote: You are generalizing just a wee bit, no? Well, perhaps not so wee, but not all.

The majority of the 150 odd million who can vote. Those that don't vote are equally to blame as well, or else how do end up with the final contenders for the most powerful position in the world ?

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:24 pm

Bruv;1501756 wrote: The majority of the 150 odd million who can vote. Those that don't vote are equally to blame as well, or else how do end up with the final contenders for the most powerful position in the world ?

I take some pride in my voting record. This year I will take equal pride in that I am not voting for H or T. Some things are just fate.

Like the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Bruv;1501756 wrote: The majority of the 150 odd million who can vote. Those that don't vote are equally to blame as well, or else how do end up with the final contenders for the most powerful position in the world ?

Majority? Are you declaring Trump the winner?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:32 pm

tude dog;1501757 wrote: I take some pride in my voting record. This year I will take equal pride in that I am not voting for H or T. Some things are just fate.

Like the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.

A Gary Johnson man, are you? Well, you can take THAT to Aleppo! He gives potheads a bad name! Speaking of names, he couldn't name any foreign leaders, including Mexico's & he governed a border state, NEW Mexico! However, he is a Republican........unless you are doing a write-in?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:34 pm

tude dog;1501755 wrote: lol

In this house talk of the election is toxic. I cannot say enough how horrible Trump is to satisfy the Mrs. For peace sake it is best to avoid any discussion about Clinton.:guitarist

You're a good guy, despite our differences, this & your dogs prove that. Oh, & your 'dog voice!'

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:51 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501759 wrote: A Gary Johnson man, are you? Well, you can take THAT to Aleppo! He gives potheads a bad name! Speaking of names, he couldn't name any foreign leaders, including Mexico's & he governed a border state, NEW Mexico! However, he is a Republican........unless you are doing a write-in?

I apologize for not being all that clear.

NOBODY is getting my vote. I am NOT a libertarian. There are some things I like about libertarians, not enough to ever make me vote for one.

Reminds me of one time I went to the polls and everything was an up-down vote on judges, people I knew nothing about and I looked at the ballot and made no vote. I made the trip just to show I went to vote.

This year all my votes will be for state and local officials.

The only enthusiasm I have is to re-elect the local sheriff, who appointed me Marshal of my city (he does have a sense of humor).

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:17 pm

What does it mean to be Marshal? Do you have any duties? Like warrants, process servings, evictions? That's what a Marshal does in NYC (I think).

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:55 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501766 wrote: What does it mean to be Marshal? Do you have any duties? Like warrants, process servings, evictions? That's what a Marshal does in NYC (I think).

LOL

The Sheriff and I frequent a convenience store and on occasion see each other. I think it was one day I wore a t-shirt of a rock band the Mrs. stepfather use to play. As I approached gave him the V finger peace sign and told him PEACE BROTHER.

I think he got a kick out of it. He is the one who fingerprinted me for my conceal carry license. I also know his son, and it is no secret where I live. Just one day he asked me how things were going on in my city and I reported: "it's all good, apathy reigns".

Since then I try to have a new report for him and he told me once I was the town Marshall.

It is all just fun.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:10 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501758 wrote: Majority? Are you declaring Trump the winner?

I don't really understand the American voting system......but don't you have 'Preliminaries' to whittle down to the last two presidential candidates Trump and Clinton ?

It was voters that got you to this stage......wasn't it ?

Post by **spot** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:18 pm

I find the release of an eleven year old private conversation far less acceptable than publishing emails disclosing the relevant current insider chicanery of how Mrs Clinton reached the play-off.

Post by **spot** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:20 pm

AnneBoleyn;1501758 wrote: Majority? Are you declaring Trump the winner?

I will, if I may, if we're each nailing a prediction to the masthead.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:54 pm

Bruv;1501770 wrote: I don't really understand the American voting system......but don't you have 'Preliminaries' to whittle down to the last two presidential candidates Trump and Clinton ?

It was voters that got you to this stage......wasn't it ?

This is the end of the road. And yes, it was the voters who brought us to this deplorable situation.

Nothing new.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:58 pm

spot;1501771 wrote: I find the release of an eleven year old private conversation far less acceptable than publishing emails disclosing the relevant current insider chicanery of how Mrs Clinton reached the play-off.

How private could it be?

All the same, nothing has changed in the eleven years since. The past year in campaigning has been just as deplorable.

Post by **spot** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:20 am

But you would agree there are a large number of adult vote-enabled Americans who think he's funny, personable and refreshingly honest because of this "deplorable" aspect? And that they may well turn out next month and vote for him in the Presidential election?

In which case the deplorability might be a net vote-winner.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:00 am

spot;1501775 wrote: But you would agree there are a large number of adult vote-enabled Americans who think he's funny, personable and refreshingly honest because of this "deplorable" aspect? And that they may well turn out next month and vote for him in the Presidential election?

In which case the deplorability might be a net vote-winner.

I find him entertaining and engagingly refreshing in his lack of subtlety........as a TV personality. I wouldn't want him as a neighbour or vote for him, his ego is big enough already.

Post by **spot** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:03 am

The question relates to large numbers of people and proportions. A system where one person gets to choose the next President of the United States has not yet been implemented.

Nobody claiming moral sensibility supports President Trump in the first place so I can't imagine how the leaked private conversation will reduce his voter turnout.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:31 am

It does seem to be that with every appearance Trump makes he manages to find a new way to turn masses of certain groups against him. Sexism, Racism, LGBT, Honest Taxpayers.... The list just goes on. I swear he is the American equivalent to Lord Sutch. Mind you, I seriously do believe that if, by some remote possibility, he does get voted in, I doubt he will survive long enough to get sworn in. That is not a matter of wishing anything on anybody. I just see it as a real possibility.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:56 am

I found this to be quite funny.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:02 pm

This should cheer you up even more.....

Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war

Trump is the world's last chance.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:48 pm

Bruv;1501893 wrote: This should cheer you up even more.....

Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war

Vladimir Zhirinovsky

Vladimir Zhirinovsky sounds like a serious person on paper. He's a colonel in the Russian army, Vice-Chairman of the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s legislature), a member of the Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe, and, most notably, the founder and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia. But a quick Google search reveals that he’s earned his reputation as the insane clown prince of Russian politics.

The Russian Trump twin. Somehow he does not seem to be a threat to the stability of the Putin regime.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:48 am

Less than a week to go. :-3

Kaine has been visiting AZ giving his speech in Spanish.

Not sure if speeches in Spanish has ever been done before?

Both Camps have been in AZ working very hard. But speaking Spanish is a first.

I'm nervous.

Patsy

Post by **spot** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:06 am

I still think I made a good call back in April. We'll know soon.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:57 am

According to the signs posted / rally's etc. - AZ is a Trump State.

Spot - you think Trump has a good chance of winning?

I'm nervous he may win also.

Oh, back in April/May you also said - "ignore me" :yh_rotfl

Patsy

Post by **spot** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:08 am

Patsy Warnick;1502290 wrote: Oh, back in April/May you also said - "ignore me" :yh_rotflWe Brits do tend to say one thing while meaning another.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:57 pm

As an aside......we Brits use trump for the bodily function of passing wind via the bum hole.

Think I put that as delicately as I could.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:36 pm

There is also some Xmas Carol which has reference to Trumps in it (which I'm ashamed to say escapes me at the moment), but every time I sang it I had to stifle a childish giggle.

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:14 pm

Is it just me, or has this whole event become presidency by media?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:32 pm

This early vote option in the US of A........how does that work ?

Are they talking of postal voters, unable to get to poll stations for some reason ?

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:57 pm

Bruv;1502348 wrote: This early vote option in the US of A........how does that work ?

Are they talking of postal voters, unable to get to poll stations for some reason ?

the polling places are open more than just on the day of the election. Anyone who wants to, within a certain time frame, can avoid the crowds and go dow to their designated station (in my case a city museum) to cast a vote...and take a chance on getting shot by a stormtrumper.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:02 pm

Saint_;1502349 wrote: the polling places are open more than just on the day of the election. Anyone who wants to, within a certain time frame, can avoid the crowds and go down to their designated station (in my case a city museum) to cast a vote...and take a chance on getting shot by a stormtrumper.

Most strange.........how long normally is this period ?

I am hearing many votes have been cast already, do these remain secret, locked in the ballot box or are they electronic votes, with the possibility of being hacked ?

Over here, unless they are postal votes for the armed services or the house bound, we have to get our butts down the polling station between 7.00 am and 10.00 pm on THE day, that seems reasonable to me.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:08 pm

Anyone in England can apply for a postal vote if it adds to their convenience - a worry that they may be out of town on the day, for example.

I have a postal vote. I'm not housebound.

If the US electronic system were proposed for use in Russia, everyone would assume it was rigged. The UK has a verifiable paper trail which is archived in case a court orders its inspection. There's no possibility of an audit of a US election. There's no possibility of observing the behavior of a US voting machine either, and I note they're online and that their programs can be swapped by remote administrators without an event trail being left. I find it shocking that the US public accepts this state of affairs as though they were impotent sheep.

Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:35 pm

Bruv;1502353 wrote: Most strange.........how long normally is this period ?

I am hearing many votes have been cast already, do these remain secret, locked in the ballot box or are they electronic votes, with the possibility of being hacked ?

Both paper and electronic, although the electronic votes cannot be hacked short of physically going to each voting machine and hotwiring it. The machines do not connect to the internet or any other network.

Over here, unless they are postal votes for the armed services or the house bound, we have to get our butts down the polling station between 7.00 am and 10.00 pm on THE day, that seems reasonable to me.

Yes, it seems reasonable to you because your country has civilization close by everywhere you turn and is not very big, in geographical terms.

Where I live there are approximately 785,000 square miles of empty territory between any city, over a 1000 miles in any direction to a metro area....good luck traveling to or from that in a day.:-3

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Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:41 pm

I didn't know we could apply for a postal vote just because we want to.

And I can only agree with you if the vote can't be checked. Surely these days electronic voting should be safe enough......but worrying.

Post by **spot** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:05 pm

To be safe it would have to be verified by a public body of integrity. The US voting machines aren't.

I have just committed sacrilege, hunting through cupboards to turn up a 12 year old Glenlivet last seen in 2014 and an unopened bottle of Crabbes Ginger Wine in order to take a Lemsip in boiling water. In exchange I may still be alive when I wake tomorrow.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:22 am

spot;1502357 wrote: To be safe it would have to be verified by a public body of integrity. The US voting machines aren't.

I have just committed sacrilege, hunting through cupboards to turn up a 12 year old Glenlivet last seen in 2014 and an unopened bottle of Crabbes Ginger Wine in order to take a Lemsip in boiling water. In exchange I may still be alive when I wake tomorrow.

Lemsip ?

Think you only need a kettle for that.

You would have been better supping a quarter of the Glenlivet then retiring early with a hot water bottle......throw the Lemsip away.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:25 am

Saint_;1502355 wrote: Yes, it seems reasonable to you because your country has civilization close by everywhere you turn and is not very big, in geographical terms.

Where I live there are approximately 785,000 square miles of empty territory between any city, over a 1000 miles in any direction to a metro area....good luck traveling to or from that in a day.:-3

Then postal voting would fit the bill over there too ?

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:00 pm

It's 2am and nothing's obvious yet - which means a Trump collapse hasn't happened.

Post by **LarsMac** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:09 pm

spot;1502421 wrote: It's 2am and nothing's obvious yet - which means a Trump collapse hasn't happened.

It's early yet. Polls just closed in Mountain Time Zone. California polls close in an hour.

No reliable decision will occur for a while. probably breakfast time where you are.

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:11 pm

It's 2.11am here and I'm watching Andrew Neil, I should be certified.

There's no hint at all who might have won. That's riveting.

I started the evening juicing a kilo of red berries and making it up to 40%abv. My word it was bitter.

50g of sugar later, the 300ml I made up is quite tolerable. The US election is quite educational. I have no intention of finishing the carafe.

Andrew Neil actually sounds sober which shows how big the event is.

Where's Richard Dimbleby or Cliff Michelmore when you need him. Where's Robert Robinson or the supremely reliable Anthony King?

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Saint_ · Post by **Saint_** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:22 pm

What? The polls in my town just closed 15 minutes ago! Give it time.

On a lighter note, I dressed all in blue and wore a Peace symbol button on my lapel just to mess with the pointy heads...lol

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:56 pm

It appears to all come down to Virginia, and Hillary winning just on that single state.

I just watched Paul Ryan, who seems to be a repellent clap-now-I-just-mentioned-God creep.

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:28 pm

Okay, I just saw Ohio called.

I'm going to predict.

President Trump has indeed won this Presidential election.

Had Ms Rodham remained true to her principles then I'd feel sympathy for her, but she didn't.

Post by **LarsMac** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:43 pm

"It ain't over 'til it's over." - Yogi Berra

Post by **spot** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:50 pm

Hillary Rodham's 1969 Student Commencement Speech was one of the finest moments is America's history. Secretary of State Clinton's performance had nothing to do with that idealism.

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:55 pm

It ain't over but I'm seeing "President Trump".

Any one else seeing this picture?

I don't think many ever thought Trump had a chance..!

Neither did I..!

Patsy

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:01 pm

Saint_;1502424 wrote: What? The polls in my town just closed 15 minutes ago! Give it time.

On a lighter note, I dressed all in blue and wore a Peace symbol button on my lapel just to mess with the pointy heads...lol

Hee hee hee........."pointy heads"

magentaflame · Post by **magentaflame** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:08 pm

Patsy Warnick;1502438 wrote: It ain't over but I'm seeing President Trump.

Any one else seeing this picture?

I don't think many ever thought Trump had a chance..!

Patsy

Ill admit it........ i thought him a joke, i still do. I didnt think he had a chance.

Whats interesting is i watched him saying that the rest of the worldthought America a laughing stock...... i was thinking , youre not quite understanding why are ya mate.

Basically youll have a laughing stock of a president. I fear for you guys.