Ted;1499248 wrote: At least I can support my position with much scholarly research by specialists in their fields. No blind reading of the Bible.
Which of these 150 scientist would you consider not a scholar?
Lists of creationist scientists - RationalWiki
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If the scientists are recognized in the generally accepted group I can listen to them. Creationists I have no use for. Pure nonsense.
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I know which scientists I trust more, but scientists to one side, I trust logic and intuition more. At least where religion and god are concerned.
A grown person having an imaginary friend is illogical and silly.
A grown person having an imaginary friend is illogical and silly.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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I can't help but wonder if you actually read anything of your own link. Take a look at the very first paragraph, for instance.
The purpose of lists such as these is the attempt to fallaciously establish Creationism and/or ID as a plausible alternative to evolution, in this case via the arbitrary accumulation of as many fancy titles as possible for their lists, in order to abrasively petition their way into classrooms and universities, regardless of the many scientific obstacles to this.
As for lengths of threads - you've got nothing on Pahu's thread. It goes on & on, round in circles, saying absolutely nothing. So long as he keeps adding to it, as he does, the thread continues. He says nothing original. He never quantifies any arguments & is, overall, a total idiot. You have a great deal in common.
The purpose of lists such as these is the attempt to fallaciously establish Creationism and/or ID as a plausible alternative to evolution, in this case via the arbitrary accumulation of as many fancy titles as possible for their lists, in order to abrasively petition their way into classrooms and universities, regardless of the many scientific obstacles to this.
As for lengths of threads - you've got nothing on Pahu's thread. It goes on & on, round in circles, saying absolutely nothing. So long as he keeps adding to it, as he does, the thread continues. He says nothing original. He never quantifies any arguments & is, overall, a total idiot. You have a great deal in common.
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Those so called scientists are wannabees.
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FourPart;1499262 wrote: I can't help but wonder if you actually read anything of your own link. Take a look at the very first paragraph, for instance.
As for lengths of threads - you've got nothing on Pahu's thread. It goes on & on, round in circles, saying absolutely nothing. So long as he keeps adding to it, as he does, the thread continues. He says nothing original. He never quantifies any arguments & is, overall, a total idiot. You have a great deal in common.
I know one thing we have in common , very few posters reach this level we enjoy.
Anyway I have to go , see you at the top!
As for lengths of threads - you've got nothing on Pahu's thread. It goes on & on, round in circles, saying absolutely nothing. So long as he keeps adding to it, as he does, the thread continues. He says nothing original. He never quantifies any arguments & is, overall, a total idiot. You have a great deal in common.
I know one thing we have in common , very few posters reach this level we enjoy.
Anyway I have to go , see you at the top!
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One thing I see happening is the lack of understanding concerning the development of new ideas and theologies. ie Dawkins book "The God Delusion" is describing a faith that for many has long gone into the distant past. That is some research on his part??? Many of the comments reflect a time in the past. Yes it is true there are still many living in the past religiously. Even the Bible as a book of wisdom was intended to be reinterpreted as time and knowledge advance.
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Ted;1499297 wrote: One thing I see happening is the lack of understanding concerning the development of new ideas and theologies. ie Dawkins book "The God Delusion" is describing a faith that for many has long gone into the distant past. That is some research on his part??? Many of the comments reflect a time in the past. Yes it is true there are still many living in the past religiously. Even the Bible as a book of wisdom was intended to be reinterpreted as time and knowledge advance.
One thing I see is that I disagree with you, as does 84% of the " World's population."
84 percent of the world population has faith; a third are Christian - Washington Times
But hey , that gives you 16% that are living in a manner you would accept . I mean at least you have some neighbors.
One thing I see is that I disagree with you, as does 84% of the " World's population."
84 percent of the world population has faith; a third are Christian - Washington Times
But hey , that gives you 16% that are living in a manner you would accept . I mean at least you have some neighbors.
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Mickiel I happen to accept the foundations of all the great religions of the world. (Karen Armstrong "The Great Transformation")
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Ted;1499302 wrote: Mickiel I happen to accept the foundations of all the great religions of the world. (Karen Armstrong "The Great Transformation")
Well I am different than you , I happen to reject them.
Well I am different than you , I happen to reject them.
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Miockiel. You reject justice and compassion!!!!!
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Ted;1499306 wrote: Miockiel. You reject justice and compassion!!!!!
No , I reject religion.
No , I reject religion.
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I do not but I do reject the use of some using the Bible for their own personal ends or those of the group.
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Ted;1499696 wrote: I do not but I do reject the use of some using the Bible for their own personal ends or those of the group.
Well in my view , most religions have morphed into using the bible, or whatever they use , for their own ends; not the ends of God. God will have all of humanity be saved, which means he pardons everything ; religions don't teach that, they have centuries old deceptions planted upon more deceptions , and they have man paying the price to excuse that , instead of the death of Jesus paying the total price for the sum total of all humanity. So the waters of religion have been muddied from its conception. I don't think religion was ever meant to be pure in this life. Just another human stain on God.
Well in my view , most religions have morphed into using the bible, or whatever they use , for their own ends; not the ends of God. God will have all of humanity be saved, which means he pardons everything ; religions don't teach that, they have centuries old deceptions planted upon more deceptions , and they have man paying the price to excuse that , instead of the death of Jesus paying the total price for the sum total of all humanity. So the waters of religion have been muddied from its conception. I don't think religion was ever meant to be pure in this life. Just another human stain on God.
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Why should he have to pardon them & why should he have to sacrifice his son in order to pay the debt of humanity's sins, when by your very own claim everything happens because he wants it to. They would have nothing to pardon, as they were only carrying out God's will. They, therefore, have no debt of sin. Therefore the only reason for God to want to murder his Son is that he, himself, guilty of Fillicide, as well as the many other acts of Genocide that he is responsible for, breaking his very own Commandments, time & time again.
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FourPaart a very good post and I'm in agreement.
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FourPart;1499731 wrote: Why should he have to pardon them & why should he have to sacrifice his son in order to pay the debt of humanity's sins, when by your very own claim everything happens because he wants it to. They would have nothing to pardon, as they were only carrying out God's will. They, therefore, have no debt of sin. Therefore the only reason for God to want to murder his Son is that he, himself, guilty of Fillicide, as well as the many other acts of Genocide that he is responsible for, breaking his very own Commandments, time & time again.
Well that is right , in my view , sin and evil exist because God wanted that for humans, and he wanted his own son to pay for it. I personally think one reason God did it , is the " Eternal lesson it will teach all of humanity", and we all will have the experience to know his way is right , and our way was wrong. We will have the complete memory of knowing the results of evil. Evil did not exist before humanity was created; I think it was an internal part of our creation. God is absolutely responsible for all of humanity and EVERYTHING we go through! And I think we are VERY fortunate of that.
Well that is right , in my view , sin and evil exist because God wanted that for humans, and he wanted his own son to pay for it. I personally think one reason God did it , is the " Eternal lesson it will teach all of humanity", and we all will have the experience to know his way is right , and our way was wrong. We will have the complete memory of knowing the results of evil. Evil did not exist before humanity was created; I think it was an internal part of our creation. God is absolutely responsible for all of humanity and EVERYTHING we go through! And I think we are VERY fortunate of that.
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Mickiel with all due respect that is sheer nonsense. What kind of God would be so petulant and mean spirited that S/he,/It would demand a blood sacrifice of his own son. He would be an out and out murder. Is this the kind of God that gives us the Great Commandment. That is ludicrous.and it makes no sense.
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Ted;1499739 wrote: Mickiel with all due respect that is sheer nonsense. What kind of God would be so petulant and mean spirited that S/he,/It would demand a blood sacrifice of his own son. He would be an out and out murder. Is this the kind of God that gives us the Great Commandment. That is ludicrous.and it makes no sense.
Well I understand that , according to the humans view of things , it does not make any sense. But I most definitely see that as a part of how God really is; he is focused , dynamic , will kill , and will make his commandments void ; and not every Theist can see even that much. Listen, look at Job 23:13, it describes God as being of one mind and it says he does whatever he wants. You think he cares whether a group of humans can understand that or not?
Listen , THIS is the REAL God; Isaiah 40:15-17, to him the nations of humans are as a drop in a bucket , before him they are AS NOTHING; they are counted to him as LESS than nothing and meaningless. God could care less what we are now discussing and how we discuss it. It means nothing to him ; Why? Because he knows he is getting ALL that he wants for us all. And everything he wants is good for us all. And once that gets planted in all our heads , we will NEVER,EVER question him again.
Well I understand that , according to the humans view of things , it does not make any sense. But I most definitely see that as a part of how God really is; he is focused , dynamic , will kill , and will make his commandments void ; and not every Theist can see even that much. Listen, look at Job 23:13, it describes God as being of one mind and it says he does whatever he wants. You think he cares whether a group of humans can understand that or not?
Listen , THIS is the REAL God; Isaiah 40:15-17, to him the nations of humans are as a drop in a bucket , before him they are AS NOTHING; they are counted to him as LESS than nothing and meaningless. God could care less what we are now discussing and how we discuss it. It means nothing to him ; Why? Because he knows he is getting ALL that he wants for us all. And everything he wants is good for us all. And once that gets planted in all our heads , we will NEVER,EVER question him again.
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Totally disagree. A God that murders??? What is the point. This idea that we don't understand God is nothing more than a big cop out. This is to place the blame for all evil etc on someone else instead of accepting the blame where it belongs. A complete lack of knowledge of how the Bible is to be read.
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Ted;1499743 wrote: Totally disagree. A God that murders??? What is the point. This idea that we don't understand God is nothing more than a big cop out. This is to place the blame for all evil etc on someone else instead of accepting the blame where it belongs. A complete lack of knowledge of how the Bible is to be read.
Well I readily admit my understanding of God is by far incomplete. In my view , no one in human history has killed more humans than God; in fact I believe he is the beginning and end of all human life. We can only read the bible according to what is in us at the time. In my understanding , God is the complete cycle of all life, in him we live , move and have our very being; to be responsible for everything is something only a God can be.
In fact , again in my view , if I were to scale the human understanding of God to be between 1 to 100, I would give 99% of humanity as a whole , less than one percent. And the other 1 percent, who understands a bit more about God, I would give them 1 percent. That is my view.
Well I readily admit my understanding of God is by far incomplete. In my view , no one in human history has killed more humans than God; in fact I believe he is the beginning and end of all human life. We can only read the bible according to what is in us at the time. In my understanding , God is the complete cycle of all life, in him we live , move and have our very being; to be responsible for everything is something only a God can be.
In fact , again in my view , if I were to scale the human understanding of God to be between 1 to 100, I would give 99% of humanity as a whole , less than one percent. And the other 1 percent, who understands a bit more about God, I would give them 1 percent. That is my view.
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Mickiel;1499744 wrote:
In fact , again in my view , if I were to scale the human understanding of God to be between 1 to 100, I would give 99% of humanity as a whole , less than one percent. And the other 1 percent, who understands a bit more about God, I would give them 1 percent. That is my view.
What??? Can you say that again in normal language? The mathematics seem to be all wrong.
In fact , again in my view , if I were to scale the human understanding of God to be between 1 to 100, I would give 99% of humanity as a whole , less than one percent. And the other 1 percent, who understands a bit more about God, I would give them 1 percent. That is my view.
What??? Can you say that again in normal language? The mathematics seem to be all wrong.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1499775 wrote: What??? Can you say that again in normal language? The mathematics seem to be all wrong.
In my view , 99% of humanity does not understand God; of the 1 percent who might understand him, I rate their level of understanding to be 1% on a possible 100% level of understanding God.
In my view , 99% of humanity does not understand God; of the 1 percent who might understand him, I rate their level of understanding to be 1% on a possible 100% level of understanding God.
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I think to understand someone, that someone needs to exist first.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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I do not see God as a being that can be looked at and photographed. I do not see God as existing in physical sense. I accept the experiential reality of God. God is a spirit. Have fun with that word.
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And how do we/you know that god is a spirit? Or is it just what we/you believe?
BTW, would that be the same with all other gods from the past? Most of them seem to have died. Did the 'real' god have something to do with that?
BTW, would that be the same with all other gods from the past? Most of them seem to have died. Did the 'real' god have something to do with that?
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1499775 wrote: What??? Can you say that again in normal language? The mathematics seem to be all wrong.
Basically he seems to be saying that he is among that 1% who know 1% about God
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
Basically he seems to be saying that he is among that 1% who know 1% about God
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
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FourPart;1499914 wrote: Basically he seems to be saying that he is among that 1% who know 1% about God
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
You may be right there, I actually thought he might know a little more about his personal god. I am often confused about his comments.
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
You may be right there, I actually thought he might know a little more about his personal god. I am often confused about his comments.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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FourPart;1499914 wrote: Basically he seems to be saying that he is among that 1% who know 1% about God
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
Concerning God, I think those percentages are about right.
This equates to 1 hundredth of 1 hundredth, which means that he has 0.0001% of any idea of what he's talking about.
Sounds about right to me.
Concerning God, I think those percentages are about right.
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Fuzzy;1499989 wrote: You may be right there, I actually thought he might know a little more about his personal god. I am often confused about his comments.
I think ,in my honest view , I know about 1% there is to know about God ; and Jesus for that matter.
I think ,in my honest view , I know about 1% there is to know about God ; and Jesus for that matter.
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I'm in the process of reading the book "Living the Secular Life". I think the author is a rather fundamentalist evangelical atheist. It always amazes me that the Atheists speak with the same force as the fundamentalists. In fact we know very little about anything. It never ceases to amaze me what some humans think they know and understand.
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Ted;1500733 wrote: I'm in the process of reading the book "Living the Secular Life". I think the author is a rather fundamentalist evangelical atheist. It always amazes me that the Atheists speak with the same force as the fundamentalists. In fact we know very little about anything. It never ceases to amaze me what some humans think they know and understand.
You really have to use common sense and make up your own mind instead of simply taking the word from people who may have an agenda. I think that goes for kinds of teachings. I believe, Jesus, if he really existed had a mental problem just like all the other thousands of sect founders who claim that god spoke to them.
You really have to use common sense and make up your own mind instead of simply taking the word from people who may have an agenda. I think that goes for kinds of teachings. I believe, Jesus, if he really existed had a mental problem just like all the other thousands of sect founders who claim that god spoke to them.
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy I do agree with much of what you say. Jesus however was concerned, as a human being, with Justice accepted as the equitable distribution of all the worlds resources and also compassion. In a parable in Matt 25 he is reported to have said that we are to feed the hungry, visit and care for the sick, clothe the naked, visit those in prison, give drink to the thirsty etc. There is not much theological thinking there but a desire to make the world a better place to live. Much of the rest is appendages added to him by later followers. His hope was for justice and peace and compassion. I think if Jesus could come back he would be appalled at what they have done to him. He like Ghandi, Mohamed, and Sidharta Gautama and others were holy men. Now one could c hew on the term "Holy"
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Is God real ? Well humanity was conscious of God before the dawn of civilization.
We can only be conscious of , those things we are conscious of;
from our consciousness came our awareness of good and evil, emotions , intelligence , environment , all these things and more were already in our heads.
and so was God.
We can only be conscious of , those things we are conscious of;
from our consciousness came our awareness of good and evil, emotions , intelligence , environment , all these things and more were already in our heads.
and so was God.
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Humanity was never concious of a God. Humanity has a natural fear of the unknown & just as Nature abhors a vaccuum, Humanity abhors an intellectual void. Therefore it has always made up stories to fill that void. They see bolts of Lightning - Some big Sky Daddy is angry & is chucking burning arrows. An eclipse - The Sky Daddy is turning the Sun off. Epilepsy - some sinner cursed by Demons taking over the soul as a punishment for his sins. A person born with white face, white hair & pink eyes - Satan in the flesh. Such things, and many more have always been seen throughout history. Don't understand it? Don't bother asking - God did it. You cannot be concious of something that does not exist. You can only be concious of an imagination.
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Mickiel;1501513 wrote: Is God real ? Well humanity was conscious of God before the dawn of civilization.
We can only be conscious of , those things we are conscious of;
from our consciousness came our awareness of good and evil, emotions , intelligence , environment , all these things and more were already in our heads.
and so was God.
Is God real well we can consider "Causality" , the principle of or relationship between , cause and effect. And in my view there is a relationship between cause and effect ; cause brings about effect. God is the cause , or the force ,and his creations are the effect. There is a cause for all things , that cause produces the effect. We are the result of deliberate effect .
You know ,I could take someone to court over this. Well what do I mean by that ? Well "Cause" is a ground for legal action. I could take someone to court for not believing in God.
But , you know , I would not be so rash.
We can only be conscious of , those things we are conscious of;
from our consciousness came our awareness of good and evil, emotions , intelligence , environment , all these things and more were already in our heads.
and so was God.
Is God real well we can consider "Causality" , the principle of or relationship between , cause and effect. And in my view there is a relationship between cause and effect ; cause brings about effect. God is the cause , or the force ,and his creations are the effect. There is a cause for all things , that cause produces the effect. We are the result of deliberate effect .
You know ,I could take someone to court over this. Well what do I mean by that ? Well "Cause" is a ground for legal action. I could take someone to court for not believing in God.
But , you know , I would not be so rash.
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Is God real? Well we must consider "Morality." Where did our morals come from. You think morals evolved from that human which was created by the self creating forest? You know , those trees that popped up out of a self created earth and pulled self creating fish out of a self creating pound. Then over time the forest managed to create a human?
I think not , because trees and vines and rocks cannot create a human , or give us morals. The concept of having morals were installed in humanity. The ability and conscious awareness to have judgments of good and evil. Its an obvious result of having a conscious sense of right and wrong. Standards did not develop those concepts itself , alone and separate from the conscious power of a God. Self manipulating matter cannot develop into skin and bones and have psychological tangible morals.
I think not , because trees and vines and rocks cannot create a human , or give us morals. The concept of having morals were installed in humanity. The ability and conscious awareness to have judgments of good and evil. Its an obvious result of having a conscious sense of right and wrong. Standards did not develop those concepts itself , alone and separate from the conscious power of a God. Self manipulating matter cannot develop into skin and bones and have psychological tangible morals.
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Makes me wonder where you received your wisdom from. I suppose god talks to you too.
Carry on Mick, I always enjoy a good laugh.:wah:
Carry on Mick, I always enjoy a good laugh.:wah:
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1501559 wrote: Makes me wonder where you received your wisdom from. I suppose god talks to you too.
Carry on Mick, I always enjoy a good laugh.:wah:
God does not talk to me , never has ;
yet.
I really thank you for your admonishing me to carry on; I think I will. With the "Cosmological Argument" , or the final uncaused -cause of all things. There cannot be an infinite number of regressions of causes to things that exist. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist in order to bring itself into existence. Since the Universe exist , it must have a cause. Therefore there must be an uncaused cause of all things , and that be God.
A very basic and simple proof of God.
Carry on Mick, I always enjoy a good laugh.:wah:
God does not talk to me , never has ;
yet.
I really thank you for your admonishing me to carry on; I think I will. With the "Cosmological Argument" , or the final uncaused -cause of all things. There cannot be an infinite number of regressions of causes to things that exist. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist in order to bring itself into existence. Since the Universe exist , it must have a cause. Therefore there must be an uncaused cause of all things , and that be God.
A very basic and simple proof of God.
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Now if one could conceive that God exist , could you then conceive of a greater being existing other than God? I mean since were looking at this , what being greater than God could exist? Then you have the "Ontological argument". And there are more than one of them.
Ontological Arguments (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
In others words , taking a line from Muhamed Ali, " God is the Greatest!"
Ontological Arguments (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
In others words , taking a line from Muhamed Ali, " God is the Greatest!"
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Humans are, by instinct, a community species. Rules that benefit & protect the community naturally develop. The same thing occurs throughout Nature. It has nothing to do with any level of morality. It is simply a case of asking yourself if an action is going to cause harm to someone else. If so, would I like someone to do it to me. Simple deal. I won't do it to you if you don't do it to me. If you do then you are harming the community & the community will take issue with this. This, too, happens in Nature.
As for causality - that leads back to the age old question of if God was the cause, then what caused God? The usual cop out is that God caused himself, which does not answer anything. It is simply the base point upon which the argument falls apart.
As for causality - that leads back to the age old question of if God was the cause, then what caused God? The usual cop out is that God caused himself, which does not answer anything. It is simply the base point upon which the argument falls apart.
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Is God real? Well we have the "Modal ontological argument", which is explained as thus ;
Philosophy of Religion » The Modal Ontological Argument
Not to be confused with the Ontological argument ,but can be combined with the Modal Argument.
This is going to get deeper. It is possible for almost anything to exist ; like another world. If its possible for another world to exist , then its possible that God exist.
Philosophy of Religion » The Modal Ontological Argument
Not to be confused with the Ontological argument ,but can be combined with the Modal Argument.
This is going to get deeper. It is possible for almost anything to exist ; like another world. If its possible for another world to exist , then its possible that God exist.
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Mickiel;1501671 wrote: Is God real? Well we have the "Modal ontological argument", which is explained as thus ;
Philosophy of Religion The Modal Ontological Argument
It is possible for almost anything to exist ; like another world. If its possible for another world to exist , then its possible that God exist.
That's extremely weird logic. May I use it too? If I think it's impossible for another world to exist then it must be impossible for a god to exist. Or I could say that I believe that it's possible another world could exist but impossible that a god could exist.
Well, alright it's possible that a god does exist but which one? Then again it's possible that no god exist. So you better keep your faith going just in case he's the mean one they say to have inspired the book of lies. Oh...and may your god bless you and inspire you to come up with some sort of proof to convince the unbelievers. That would be a first. Oops sorry, I mean apart from that Moses chap climbing all the way up that mountain to receive those iPads, sorry tablets. Tablets? Sounds like he had a headache from all that climbing.:yh_rotfl
Philosophy of Religion The Modal Ontological Argument
It is possible for almost anything to exist ; like another world. If its possible for another world to exist , then its possible that God exist.
That's extremely weird logic. May I use it too? If I think it's impossible for another world to exist then it must be impossible for a god to exist. Or I could say that I believe that it's possible another world could exist but impossible that a god could exist.
Well, alright it's possible that a god does exist but which one? Then again it's possible that no god exist. So you better keep your faith going just in case he's the mean one they say to have inspired the book of lies. Oh...and may your god bless you and inspire you to come up with some sort of proof to convince the unbelievers. That would be a first. Oops sorry, I mean apart from that Moses chap climbing all the way up that mountain to receive those iPads, sorry tablets. Tablets? Sounds like he had a headache from all that climbing.:yh_rotfl
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
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Fuzzy;1501673 wrote: That's extremely weird logic. May I use it too? If I think it's impossible for another world to exist then it must be impossible for a god to exist. Or I could say that I believe that it's possible another world could exist but impossible that a god could exist.
Well, alright it's possible that a god does exist but which one? Then again it's possible that no god exist. So you better keep your faith going just in case he's the mean one they say to have inspired the book of lies. Oh...and may your god bless you and inspire you to come up with some sort of proof to convince the unbelievers. That would be a first. Oops sorry, I mean apart from that Moses chap climbing all the way up that mountain to receive those iPads, sorry tablets. Tablets? Sounds like he had a headache from all that climbing.:yh_rotfl
Oh that's nothing , it gets deeper;
Origin of life: the chirality problem - creation.com
Well, alright it's possible that a god does exist but which one? Then again it's possible that no god exist. So you better keep your faith going just in case he's the mean one they say to have inspired the book of lies. Oh...and may your god bless you and inspire you to come up with some sort of proof to convince the unbelievers. That would be a first. Oops sorry, I mean apart from that Moses chap climbing all the way up that mountain to receive those iPads, sorry tablets. Tablets? Sounds like he had a headache from all that climbing.:yh_rotfl
Oh that's nothing , it gets deeper;
Origin of life: the chirality problem - creation.com
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I respect the Bible for what it is but it is not a history book. It tells us that God is Spirit--not a spirit. Paul is recorded as saying that flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom. We should talks about the word "spirit" and what it implies.
Excuse the change of topics but in the last few weeks I lost more sight in my good eye and reading this is a task but I will still come. Please excuse any errors or odd comments.
Excuse the change of topics but in the last few weeks I lost more sight in my good eye and reading this is a task but I will still come. Please excuse any errors or odd comments.
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Mickiel;1501682 wrote: Oh that's nothing , it gets deeper;
Origin of life: the chirality problem - creation.com
We can know God is real through the Anthropic principles ;
Reasons To Believe : Anthropic Principle: A Precise Plan for Humanity
The universe seems designed for us.
Origin of life: the chirality problem - creation.com
We can know God is real through the Anthropic principles ;
Reasons To Believe : Anthropic Principle: A Precise Plan for Humanity
The universe seems designed for us.
Is God Real?
Ted;1501704 wrote: I respect the Bible for what it is but it is not a history book. It tells us that God is Spirit--not a spirit. Paul is recorded as saying that flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom. We should talks about the word "spirit" and what it implies.
Excuse the change of topics but in the last few weeks I lost more sight in my good eye and reading this is a task but I will still come. Please excuse any errors or odd comments.
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Excuse the change of topics but in the last few weeks I lost more sight in my good eye and reading this is a task but I will still come. Please excuse any errors or odd comments.
Start a thread on it.
Is God Real?
Mickiel I did but it ended up somewhere else maybe under Christianity????
Is God Real?
Then we have "Paleontology"; notice ;
Intelligent Design Has Scientific Merit in Paleontology | Discovery Institute
Intelligent design has great merit in Paleontology.
Intelligent Design Has Scientific Merit in Paleontology | Discovery Institute
Intelligent design has great merit in Paleontology.
Is God Real?
Ted;1501713 wrote: Mickiel I did but it ended up somewhere else maybe under Christianity????
Well in my view ," Spirit" can be two basic things ; it can mean "Life", and then a more advanced spirit can mean "Conscious life." And then a far more advanced existence of Spirit can mean the existence of Spirit beings that are not flesh ,but actually an unknown form of existence that humans just cannot see with the physical eye.
Well in my view ," Spirit" can be two basic things ; it can mean "Life", and then a more advanced spirit can mean "Conscious life." And then a far more advanced existence of Spirit can mean the existence of Spirit beings that are not flesh ,but actually an unknown form of existence that humans just cannot see with the physical eye.