Tonight's ruling. Shock and horror in the B.N.P.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:23 am

The wills Involve millions and millions of pounds. When Griffin lost Chairmanship, he lost control. Ironically, Griffin himself appointed Clive Jefferson, a man who's trust and honesty were never In doubt under his Chairmanship. As both pointed out, members money was being wasted In various court cases and legal fee's and had It not of been for Jefferson, the BNP would have gone under 3 years ago.

Dawn's court case Is slightly different, In that It's through no fault of her own and those costs will be recovered as two cases against her have already been thrown out of court by Judges and we are suing Cumbria police.

The BNP like any Company Involving huge amounts of money, Is complicated. Each region has a Treasurer and each branch has a fund holder. Monies raised In local branch level are held for that branch and used only by that branch but we have to do audits exactly the same as any other company.

Much of Griffin's accusations were based on his own personal bankruptcy. Having read In detail the dodgy dossier which took me nearly two hours just to read, and the e mail sent two weeks ago, I myself, having not been a lawyer nor a finance expert, found Inconsistencies In the two and contradictions.

Most BNP members are actually normal Intelligent people who found those contradictions as I did, but Griffins dodgy dossier was to frighten the life out those who didn't understand the legal jargon he used and why I absolutely refused to discuss It with those who did not receive the dossier or the following e mail. On one hand, In the dodgy dossier, Griffin accused us of hanging him out to dry on his personal bankruptcy but In the e mail, he led us all to believe that the official receivers could take every last pencil from central office In Wigton. That was simply not true, as the rest of his accusations were. If someone Is personally declared bankrupt, the official receiver can not take monies raised and held In branch or region level. Mr Griffin tried to frighten members Into believing they could.

Post by **Peter Lake** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:29 am

FourPart;1465694 wrote:

Obviously the interview was very biased, which is only to be expected (not a dig whatsoever - the same would be true of any party's own publications). However, from what I see he put himself across pretty well (apart from the creepy constant looking into the camera),

. You're unbelievable. If he hadn't looked into camera, you'd have accused him of being shifty. Now tell me how the interview was biased.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:56 am

All of the court cases prior were under Griffin.

Oh the Irony. This cost the Party thousands.

Lancaster Unity: Michaela Mackenzie: Employment Tribunal Statement

He sacked her under his so called clause to the Constitution where he could hire and fire who he liked.

Then the Dodgy Dossier critisizes Walker for using that same clause.

Another court case.

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.uk/sear ... l%20cretin

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:02 pm

Peter Lake;1465731 wrote: You're unbelievable. If he hadn't looked into camera, you'd have accused him of being shifty.
On the contrary. I saw the interview as being between Walker & Jefferson. The constant looking into the camera reeked of the rules of putting on 'sincerity' by trying to address a non-existent 3rd party. It had me thinking about one of the episodes of Yes Minister.

Now tell me how the interview was biased.
I have absolutely no problem with it being biased. I wouldn't expect anything otherwise. The whole interview was based on questions where it was known that the right answers would be given (and most probably pre-rehearsed). If it had been an independent interview he would have been grilled over the points he said that he wouldn't answer (which, incidentally, I also saw as being a fair point - any information given in confidence must remain that way - so long as it's not something illicit, of course).

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:54 pm

FourPart;1465748 wrote: On the contrary. I saw the interview as being between Walker & Jefferson. The constant looking into the camera reeked of the rules of putting on 'sincerity' by trying to address a non-existent 3rd party. It had me thinking about one of the episodes of Yes Minister.

I have absolutely no problem with it being biased. I wouldn't expect anything otherwise. The whole interview was based on questions where it was known that the right answers would be given (and most probably pre-rehearsed). If it had been an independent interview he would have been grilled over the points he said that he wouldn't answer (which, incidentally, I also saw as being a fair point - any information given in confidence must remain that way - so long as it's not something illicit, of course).

That's the difference between us and you. I know Clive and he was just being himself but you can't possibly know that having never met him.

Of course, they decided pre recording to set down what they were going to say. Clive and Adam have confidential material that only the Executive Committee are entrusted with. What do you expect him do ? Rattle off names, amounts, accounts etc etc for the whole world and his wife to hear about? Our members would be appalled If they did that. They did the job In hand... reassuring the members over the dossier without breaching confidentiality.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:00 pm

Our Dawn

BNP vs Cumbria police - YouTube

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:40 pm

Once again the paranoia of suspicion. Don't you realise that what I wrote was actually a compliment to him - and to Walker as well, for that matter.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:19 am

I am a betting person so I will lay some odds.. I can't go In to details of the case against Dawn as they are subject to the trial, hopefully, of which we will have a verdict next week. I will just say though, that If any sane person was In the CPS and had the same Labour MP and Labour Councillor make false allegations about a Lady that resulted In two prior allegations being thrown out of court by different Judges, you'd be slightly suspicious when the very same people made a 3 rd false allegation to police to have her arrested. Surely, any sane person In the CPS would think ' hmmm hang on a minute' especially as this Is supposed to be something Dawn said to these people In a street. She appears before the courts and one of these people then doesn't have the bottle nor the guts to appear as a witness and Is absent. Clive Is right... shame on Cumbria police and CPS.

1/7 The Case will be thrown out next week

10/1 Cumbria police will secure a conviction

1/7 The BNP will successfully sue Cumbria police

1/7 The Labourittes will try again for a 4th arrest

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:18 am

'Civil war': the inside story of Nick Griffin's BNP demise - Channel 4 News

https://news.vice.com/article/exclusive ... ck-griffin

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:50 am

Don't know if I can resist taking a look at the BNP problems...................................................yes I can.

FourPart · Post by **FourPart** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:13 am

Bruv;1466525 wrote: Don't know if I can resist taking a look at the BNP problems...................................................yes I can.

No you can't.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:15 pm

FourPart;1466531 wrote: No you can't.

I have so far.......wanna bet ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:31 pm

Taken from one of my links

According to BNP spokesman Michael Woods, party officials felt the former leader's views on the holocaust, homosexuality, and "casual extremism," frequently broadcasts to his 29,000 Twitter followers, were incompatible with the politics of the BNP.

"[Griffin] was presenting those views as if they were the party's views, without any discussion with his colleagues," Woods told VICE News.

According to Woods, the acting chairman Adam Walker wanted to try a different approach, and suggested that the far-right party had become fatigued by extremism.

"The party wants to reconnect with the grassroots of its traditional supporters and it wants to actually, rather than trying sort of to make statements too extreme, it wants to listen to its own supporters and voters and activists," Woods said.

So ner