Brain damage from synthetic marijuana

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:13 am

Family issues warning after teen suffers severe brain damage from synthetic marijuana | khou.com Houston

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:24 pm

So when kids smoke something they shouldn't the substance is labeled 'synthetic marijuana'?

tabby · Post by **tabby** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:53 pm

One of the military bases in the state has joined with the law makers in an effort to curb usage and distribution of what they're calling "synthetic marijuana". It sounds like a grab bag of whatever ingredients happen to be available and are ultimately more dangerous than the real thing.

Military, state combat synthetic drugs - Op-Ed - Progress-Index

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:33 pm

tabby;1425345 wrote: One of the military bases in the state has joined with the law makers in an effort to curb usage and distribution of what they're calling "synthetic marijuana". It sounds like a grab bag of whatever ingredients happen to be available and are ultimately more dangerous than the real thing.

Military, state combat synthetic drugs - Op-Ed - Progress-Index

Except the real thing isn't dangerous, just not the best choice of activity for a young kid. It's for adults, like booze.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:53 pm

AnneBoleyn;1425351 wrote: Except the real thing isn't dangerous, just not the best choice of activity for a young kid. It's for adults, like booze.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:56 pm

Ahso!;1425337 wrote: So when kids smoke something they shouldn't the substance is labeled 'synthetic marijuana'?

"They" tried to create a substance that acted like THC but wasn't illegal. However there are so many different chemicals, it's causing a lot of toxic reactions even though it's still sold over the counter in parts of the country.

I don't see why the label keeps confusing members here.

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:01 pm

I don't mess with synthetic anything.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:31 pm

Simply because the same high is wanting to be achieved from THC doesn't make anything synthetic marijuana. It sounds like just another ploy to discredit natural marijuana.

This is synthetic marijuana -> Marijuana Pill May Be Better For Pain Than Smoked Form, Study Finds

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:38 pm

Anyway, there's nothing in the article the OP cites as proof the the stuff smoked caused the injury to the girl. Brain damage happens from many different reasons. A friend of mine died a few years ago from what sounds very similar to what the girl suffered from. He was going away with the family on vacation and as they were getting ready to leave he began talking funny and becoming clumsy. He was brought to the hospital where it was discovered his brain had become enlarged and they had to relieve the pressure. He died a few days later. He was 52 years old.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:39 pm

Accountable;1425361 wrote: If you're claiming marijuana is dangerous, I'd like to see some proof.

Post by **LarsMac** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:15 pm

Ahso!;1425372 wrote: If you're claiming marijuana is dangerous, I'd like to see some proof.

I've seen it make some people pretty stupid.

Dontcha think that could be dangerous?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:30 am

Some parts enlarged for emphasis:Accountable;1425361 wrote: [QUOTE=AnneBoleyn;1425351]Except the real thing isn't dangerous, just not the best choice of activity for a young kid. It's for adults, like booze.

Ahso!;1425372 wrote: If you're claiming marijuana is dangerous, I'd like to see some proof.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:34 am

LarsMac;1425375 wrote: I've seen it make some people pretty stupid.

Dontcha think that could be dangerous?Directing that question at Ahso is a little like asking Manute Bol if it's dangerous to be tall. ijs

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:52 am

LarsMac;1425375 wrote: I've seen it make some people pretty stupid.

Dontcha think that could be dangerous?Anything can cause some people to appear stupid. Marijuana doesn't make people dangerous, nor does marijuana have negative physical affects. In fact, as we all now know, marijuana helps many who suffer from certain ailments.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:55 am

Accountable;1425382 wrote: Some parts enlarged for emphasis:

I wasn't sure whether your smiley face was concurring or challenging the post you used it for.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:18 am

MENTAL HEALTH, BRAIN FUNCTION, AND MEMORY

It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness. Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.

In the short term, marijuana use impairs perception, judgment, thinking, memory, and learning; memory defects may persist six weeks after last use. Mental disorders connected with marijuana use merit their own category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) IV, published by the American Psychiatric Association. These include Cannabis Intoxication (consisting of impaired motor coordination, anxiety, impaired judgment, sensation of slowed time, social withdrawal, and often includes perceptual disturbances; Cannabis Intoxication Delirium (memory deficit, disorientation); Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Delusions; Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Hallucinations; and Cannabis Induced Anxiety Disorder.

In addition, marijuana use has many indirect effects on health. Its effect on coordination, perception, and judgment means that it causes a number of accidents, vehicular and otherwise.

THE MEDICAL DANGERS OF MARIJUANA USE

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:02 am

Just linking to something on the internet does not make it credible. Your link does not provide an author, it doesn't cite any studies to back up its claims (other than links to more blogs at the bottom).

IOW, what you've offered is a blog with a bunch of speculation listed on it. Just because it says Harvard Law means nothing. Ask yourself why a site claiming to be a legal site is writing about medical and psychological subjects.

Did you read it? Probably not.

Did you look for verification of the claims? Definitely not.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:11 am

Ahso!;1425406 wrote: Just linking to something on the internet does not make it credible. Your link does not provide an author, it doesn't cite any studies to back up its claims (other than links to more blogs at the bottom).

IOW, what you've offered is a blog with a bunch of speculation listed on it. Just because it says Harvard Law means nothing. Ask yourself why a site claiming to be a legal site is writing about medical and psychological subjects.

Did you read it? Probably not.

Did you look for verification of the claims? Definitely not. Don't speak for me Ahso.... you have no Idea what I look for or read. And you are certainly not an authority on the subject.

I could sit here all night posting countless links to the side effects. Perhaps If you believe you are such an authority, you could research the side effects yourself ?

This however, Is fact

Drugged Driving | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:18 am

I have done the research. Blabbermouths usually don't research before flapping their jaws.

As for driving: nobody should drive a vehicle while in any altered state of mind, which includes being emotional.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am

Ahso!;1425409 wrote: I have done the research. Blabbermouths usually don't research before flapping their jaws.

As for driving: nobody should drive a vehicle while in any altered state of mind, which includes being emotional. I don't believe you have. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

How about you show us some evidence of your research then?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:33 am

Ahso!;1425409 wrote: I have done the research. Blabbermouths usually don't research before flapping their jaws.

As for driving: nobody should drive a vehicle while in any altered state of mind, which includes being emotional.
So I guess you taxi everywhere.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:36 am

Accountable;1425411 wrote: So I guess you taxi everywhere.

High Five

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Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:42 am

oscar;1425410 wrote: I don't believe you have. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

How about you show us some evidence of your research then?Nope. Not my thread. Figures you'd want someone else to take the lead for you though.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:50 am

Here's the thread topic. Brain damage from synthetic marijuana

Try staying on topic.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Ahso!;1425416 wrote: Here's the thread topic. Brain damage from synthetic marijuana

Try staying on topic.

Taxi for Ahso :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:33 pm

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Post by **LarsMac** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:03 pm

Is Pot Good for Lungs? New Marijuana Study Adds to Health-Effects Debate - The Daily Beast

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2010/10 ... ret-haney/

I kinda like the stuff, myself, but, If I hadn't quit smoking, it probably would have kilt me by now.

Took several years to clean my lungs out.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:22 pm

Marijuana is botanically a 'vegetable' . Vegies are good for you ...and has been proven over and over again that it is good for you . Trouble is when the chemical makeup of the plant is altered it has differing affects. For instance to seperate the THC from the plant and heat it will have physical/medical side affects if taken. Exactly the same for any vegetable or herb.

BUT.......did you know that if you were to eat or juice the plant for health reasons as you would any other vegetable it has no side affects relating to "drug taking" and is actually extremely good for you. Unfortunetly to acquire the true health benefits of a raw plant you would need to extract the juice of the whole plant. That means and entire plant every day. it's not sustainable. mores the pity.

I did know a young lad many years ago who got it in h is head that the best and cheapest high was to dry out and smoke his mothers garden plants. Seriously he smoked everyday household variety plants and flowers. It sent him psychotic. Last I heard it majorly damaged his organs and he's still psychotic.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:34 am

LarsMac;1425452 wrote: Is Pot Good for Lungs? New Marijuana Study Adds to Health-Effects Debate - The Daily Beast

Debunking Myths About the Physiological Effects of Marijuana: 5 Questions for Neurobiologist Margaret Haney | Britannica Blog

I kinda like the stuff, myself, but, If I hadn't quit smoking, it probably would have kilt me by now.

Took several years to clean my lungs out. That's very Interesting about lung capacity....

Paranoia

Paranoid or placid? Brain scans show pot's effect on mind

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:03 pm

LarsMac;1425452 wrote: Is Pot Good for Lungs? New Marijuana Study Adds to Health-Effects Debate - The Daily Beast

Debunking Myths About the Physiological Effects of Marijuana: 5 Questions for Neurobiologist Margaret Haney | Britannica Blog

I kinda like the stuff, myself, but, If I hadn't quit smoking, it probably would have kilt me by now.

Took several years to clean my lungs out.While there's no question breathing anything other than pure, unadulterated, clean air can be hazardous to any animal, marijuana appears to possibly somewhat offset the damage that air pollution has been doing to us. Not that I'm advocating anyone smoke marijuana, I'm not. Please note the citations in the following link that supports the contents of the reply.

Does Marijuana Contain Carcinogens Like Cigarette Smoke? - Blurtit