Getting sick of these big companies telling us what to do.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:24 pm

Coca-Cola Set to Challenge Recycling Law in Northern Territory - International Business Times

In a nutshell, that Commonwealth Act, Coca-Cola stressed in an ABC report on Wednesday, states that "if a product is legal to sell in one state, it is legal to sell in another state."

"So for one state, or in this case territory, to go it alone and create a non-harmonised regulatory system, we believe breaches that Act," Wagstaff argued.

Coca-Cola fears that over the long-haul, the NT law will establish precedents that would be untenable to the interests of beverage players operating in Australia.

However, Coca-Cola's planned legal action was wholly based on its self-serving interests, according to environmental group Clean Up Australia.

Now that's crap ... S.A has had a deposit scheme ever since I can remember . Victoria stopped theirs ages ago but you still get payed for aluinum cans. So I don't know what this supposed law they have pulled out of their butt is all about .

Basically people pay an extra ten cents on their soft drinks and beer bottles etc etc . and if you return it you get your 10 cents back. (btw they have already trialed this, and the scheme has collected over 35,000 bottles and cans in a very short time period. These very bottles and cans would otherwise be strewn across our NT landscape.

Coke a cola are referring to this scheme as a "tax" on their product. It's not a tax if you're paying a deposit. Could you imagine if they outlawed "deposits" on everything? God they're full of ****!!!

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:46 pm

That's interesting. As far as I know, they haven't challenged the recycle deposit for those states in the US that have one.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:09 pm

I don't see the problem.

Coca Cola in compliance with law is challenging the new regulation. Just based on the article looks like they have a good shot at success.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:08 am

They are calling in constitutional law . Basically if they were to win, all recycling in australia will be deemed illegal. How's that work? when a shitty company like coke can run someone elses country? Don't think so jack!!!

Tude they are not complying with our laws ...that's just their take on it.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:33 am

They're going to freak out if they go ahead with a proposed tax on soft drinks in the UK

BBC News - Tax fizzy drinks and ban junk food ads, say doctors

Tax fizzy drinks and ban junk food ads, say doctors

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:01 am

fuzzywuzzy;1420583 wrote: Coca-Cola Set to Challenge Recycling Law in Northern Territory - International Business Times

Now that's crap ... S.A has had a deposit scheme ever since I can remember . Victoria stopped theirs ages ago but you still get payed for aluinum cans. So I don't know what this supposed law they have pulled out of their butt is all about .

Basically people pay an extra ten cents on their soft drinks and beer bottles etc etc . and if you return it you get your 10 cents back. (btw they have already trialed this, and the scheme has collected over 35,000 bottles and cans in a very short time period. These very bottles and cans would otherwise be strewn across our NT landscape.

Coke a cola are referring to this scheme as a "tax" on their product. It's not a tax if you're paying a deposit. Could you imagine if they outlawed "deposits" on everything? God they're full of ****!!!
Don't let them do it. They're a foreign corporation and have to abide by the host laws. Hell, they're lucky the courts decided they even have standing to bring the suit. It isn't a tax on their product. If it is a tax at all, it's a tax on what contains their product. so maybe they should change the container. Sell it in paper boxes like kid's juices. That ought to do it.

Scrat · Post by **Scrat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:19 am

They're going to freak out if they go ahead with a proposed tax on soft drinks in the UK

I think we need to do that. What about all these weird drinks like 5 hour energy and the other energy drinks. There's no way those things can be good for you. We need a whole new way to look at this.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:00 pm

Scrat;1420618 wrote: I think we need to do that. What about all these weird drinks like 5 hour energy and the other energy drinks. There's no way those things can be good for you. We need a whole new way to look at this.What? Ask self-important, self-absorbed politicians to make decisions for us on what is and is not healthy enough to drink? Do you like Gov Bloomburg limiting soft drink sizes, too?

No thanks. I prefer to make my own culinary decisions, thankyouverymuch.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:10 pm

Accountable;1420669 wrote: What? Ask self-important, self-absorbed politicians to make decisions for us on what is and is not healthy enough to drink? Do you like Gov Bloomburg limiting soft drink sizes, too?

No thanks. I prefer to make my own culinary decisions, thankyouverymuch.

This I'd agree with. Manipulating taxes to change people's behaviour is too "Big Brother" for my liking.

Hari Sheldon might have had the science to predict the consequences but we're nowhere near cute enough for social engineering yet.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:27 pm

It's Mayor Bloomberg, & his term is up this year.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:33 pm

AnneBoleyn;1420674 wrote: It's Mayor Bloomberg, & his term is up this year.
Thank you.

Is his term limited?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:39 pm

Accountable;1420691 wrote: Thank you.

Is his term limited?

That's so FUNNY! Why? Well, yes, after Ed Koch term limits were voted in by the people, including for City Council, borough Presidents, BUT after 2 terms our Mayor managed to get that overturned "Just this once" & the majority of those folks went on, with Bloomberg, to a third & final term.

Money talks. He now plans to spend his time & billions backing anti-gun candidates & issues.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:21 am

gggrrrr don't mention Mayors to me ..ours wants to ban smoking from the entire CBD. No open air smoking at all. bloody lunatics all of them . Could you imagine being a tourist lighting up a ciggy in the street and being confronted by a copper to put it out even if there is no one around you?

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-breakfa ... 2djky.html

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:14 am

fuzzywuzzy;1420704 wrote: gggrrrr don't mention Mayors to me ..ours wants to ban smoking from the entire CBD. No open air smoking at all. bloody lunatics all of them . Could you imagine being a tourist lighting up a ciggy in the street and being confronted by a copper to put it out even if there is no one around you?
Ours (the Dems' new golden child, Julian Castro) tried to make it illegal for people to smoke in their own front yard if a parade is on their street.

Jarlaxle · Post by **Jarlaxle** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:06 pm

Sounds about right...

Ridiculous is too mild a word.

halfway · Post by **halfway** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:18 am

Buy more KO. In very large blocks.

fuzzywuzzy · Post by **fuzzywuzzy** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:06 pm

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Coke won, How to take over a country through the backdoor. Well if any of you come here in the future to see Ulura or our outback don't trip over the rubbish being left behind.

but wait there's more

Anger at Coke's successful bid to abolish Northern Territory recycling deposit | News.com.au

Federal Court cans NT's deposit scheme - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

If the Northern territory government doesn't grow some balls and kick Coke to the curb we're stuffed.

tude dog · Post by **tude dog** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:37 pm

I say yea for Coke.

To bad for those who do not like the law they made.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:13 am

Fuzzy in OP wrote: It added "Australian families do not deserve to be slugged with yet another cost of living increase that will push grocery prices up when there are cheaper and equally effective alternatives on the table.So Coca Cola is a grocery now?

From now on I'm gonna, "Hey can I borrow a dollar? I want to go to the breakroom and buy some groceries." :yh_bigsmi