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The fury of a 7/7 bombing victim: Why is he now facing deportation? | Mail Online

Have I slipped Into a time warp? Is It April Fools Day?

This just about sums up the farce that Is our Immigration department.
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Well, he IS an Australia citizen, at this point.

Has been for nearly thirty years.

What's the problem?
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LarsMac;1403160 wrote: Well, he IS an Australia citizen, at this point.

Has been for nearly thirty years.

What's the problem? Taken from the article....

He was issued with a British passport and said he was never told he did not have citizenship.

After a degree at Cambridge he embarked on an academic career in Britain.

He later accepted a job in Australia and was granted Australian citizenship.

Professor Tulloch said his British passport stated he could take out dual nationality without putting his British nationality in jeopardy.



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oscar;1403161 wrote: Taken from the article....

He was issued with a British passport and said he was never told he did not have citizenship.

After a degree at Cambridge he embarked on an academic career in Britain.

He later accepted a job in Australia and was granted Australian citizenship.

Professor Tulloch said his British passport stated he could take out dual nationality without putting his British nationality in jeopardy.



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I don't really see what the bombing has to do with it.

He was an Aussie, already.

He probably should have pursued legal advice before taking on Australian citizenship, I think.

I am sure a legal counsel can help straighten it out.

Perhaps he should hire the same lawyer that Jamaican employed.
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From the BBC Article:

"The issue that caused this is because I took out Australian citizenship in 1983."

He said that unlike with a full British citizen, and unknown to him, the Australian citizenship cancelled his British nationality and his right to live in Britain.



UK Passport Authority:

"It is the responsibility of an individual to check that they will not lose a previously acquired nationality or citizenship on acquiring an additional one



When he tried to renew his passport around 20 years ago it was taken off him leaving him "gob smacked".

"I would've got full British citizenship before I went to Australia if I had known," he said.

Using his Australian passport with a work permit, Prof Tulloch has since held senior roles at Brunel University in London and the journalism school at Cardiff University, among others.

But he is now semi-retired and said he had been told by a senior immigration officer at Heathrow Airport that he would not be able to stay in the country indefinitely.

The UK Border Agency spokesperson said in a statement: "If you are a British subject otherwise than by connection with the Republic of Ireland or a British protected person you will lose that status on acquiring any other nationality or citizenship.

"It is the responsibility of an individual to check that they will not lose a previously acquired nationality or citizenship on acquiring an additional one."


So it was twenty years back that his UK passport was taken away, and he has long known that something must be done about that.
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LarsMac;1403164 wrote: From the BBC Article:



So it was twenty years back that his UK passport was taken away, and he has long known that something must be done about that.It's the confusion and the bungling... He has a British wife.. I believe that gives him right to stay.... the legalities of this are all over the place... It's a joke...

We can't deport those our Government deem to be threats to National security such as Abu Hamza due to his bloody human rights appeals yet we can balls this up.
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Well, rather than whine to the press, he should hire legal counsel.

Sounds to me like HE is the one that screwed up, if he hasn't pursued the reinstatement of citizenship for twenty years.

Something like that happen to me, you bet your sweet bippie I'd be on the horn to the state department in minutes.

What did he think? That it was just going to magically get fixed all by itself while he was off living his life?

The bungling seems to be on his side.

Sounds like he'd better get off his arse and get that paperwork taken care of, or the next time he goes off on holiday to the Continent, they might not let him back in.
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Or...........................the whole article is a vehicle for the bit at the bottom "Those we didn't deport"
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Bruv;1403177 wrote: Or...........................the whole article is a vehicle for the bit at the bottom "Those we didn't deport" Possibly but then that's the tabloids for you. Forget them, I just think after all he went through, this could be sorted very quickly.
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LarsMac;1403163 wrote: I don't really see what the bombing has to do with it.

He was an Aussie, already.

He probably should have pursued legal advice before taking on Australian citizenship, I think.

I am sure a legal counsel can help straighten it out.

Perhaps he should hire the same lawyer that Jamaican employed.


If you're british you can have dual nationalities, it's actuall quite cmon to be both bitish and australian, or new zealand or british and german, french some countries don't allow that if you become a British citizen because one of your parents is british and the other german or austrian then you can lose the german if you are not careful. This is silly, our immigration department are a joke.
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In the States it is a bit simpler.

If your parents are American, you're American.

If you are born on US ground, You're American.

If one parent is of another country, or you are born of US parents in another country, you have dual citizenship, but at adulthood, you're expected to pick one.

It seems here, this guy was born of British parents, but in India, which at the time was a Crown Colony, right?

I assume that at some point in life you must declare citizenship, and I assume there is paperwork to be dealt with.

It seems to me that this guy just assumed all the paperwork was taken care of, and went on about his life.

Surprise, not so. But then that surprise was twenty years back, and he failed to follow up, then.

So, I am sure that a good solicitor (or whatever the correct professional, if I got it wrong) should be able to sort it out with ease.

And still don't see why his being in the middle of the 7/7 mess really is more than a footnote, except as a media splash.

I doubt it will get him a discount with the solicitor. But, then, there may be some advertising value in it, after all.
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