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Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:27 pm

Not being In the BNP stands for nothing.

There Is a BNP MEP for Yorkshire and The Humber who Is not actually In the BNP.... work your head around that !!!

Oh, much better to stand back and take a view with a bigger perspective. Get too close and you get lost in irrelevant detail. I'm not interested in the exact process of splintering and reforming of groups - it is pretty well known from eg Northern Ireland and the terrorism of the 1970's - and it's the results that count.

So, when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:30 pm

Clodhopper;1402784 wrote: Oh, much better to stand back and take a view with a bigger perspective. Get too close and you get lost in irrelevant detail. I'm not interested in the exact process of splintering and reforming of groups - it is pretty well known from eg Northern Ireland and the terrorism of the 1970's - and it's the results that count.

So, when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP?
Actually I like the way you did that....

In plain English that means:

Yep, I haven't got a feckin clue what I'm talking about.

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Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:45 pm

Oh not quite. It means I know I don't know the whole picture and I'm not going to try to keep track of every nuance. I'm not on the inside (...shudder...) and without that sort of info it would take faaar more time than I could give. And having picked up a fair bit of history over time really does help with this sort of thing.

However, you've piqued my interest and I might well have a look to see what's stirring. Though not tonight...

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:51 pm

...and I would like to know when you came out on these boards as having left the BNP? After all, I'm supposed to be at fault for not knowing, aren't I?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:01 pm

Clodhopper;1402793 wrote: Oh not quite. It means I know I don't know the whole picture and I'm not going to try to keep track of every nuance. I'm not on the inside (...shudder...) and without that sort of info it would take faaar more time than I could give. And having picked up a fair bit of history over time really does help with this sort of thing.

However, you've piqued my interest and I might well have a look to see what's stirring. Though not tonight... Let me try and explain It to Clod.

There was the BNP and other Nationalist parties that originated from offshoot of the BNP. Then there was a leadership challenge where the challenger lost by just 4 votes. There Is now the Umbrella of the BNP that has nothing to do with the BNP but operates as a seperate entity. Under the Umbrella of the BNP Is the Umbrella of the challengers BNP although he Is not a member of the BNP. Some members under the Umbrella under the Umbrella of the BNP then went off to join existing alternative Nationalist parties or start new one's but remaining under the Umbrella of the Umbrella In continual support for the Challenger should Nick spontaneously combust In the near future. Then the umbrella under the umbrella got fed up and formed the group Nationalists Unite to bring together those under the umbrella of the BNP, those under the umbrella under the umbrella of the BNP and existing BNP members.

Clearer?

Post by **spot** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:05 pm

Oh... I've just seen them with a different browser - all those blank posts had smilies in them. That's one mystery solved.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:06 pm

Nationalists Unite.

Thanks. Will see what they show up.

Will leave the issue of when you came out on these boards as leaving the BNP.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:26 pm

Clodhopper;1402801 wrote: Nationalists Unite.

Thanks. Will see what they show up.

Will leave the issue of when you came out on these boards as leaving the BNP. You'll be hard pressed to find anything... believe me...they are hardly going to publicise It given the circumstances.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:34 am

oscar;1402815 wrote: You'll be hard pressed to find anything... believe me...they are hardly going to publicise It given the circumstances.

You're right there. I'll ask spot if I ever need the details.

Wandered round most of the old haunts and found them closed down, funding collapsed, interest gone. Tumbleweed blowing along empty cyberstreets. Pointless slogans banging erratically, and just me, keyboard emphasising the silence.

Oh joy.

Never thought I'd have a good word to say about conspiracy theory. I do now: In the few places left, they were entirely caught up in arguments about whether Neil Armstrong was a White Hero for being 1st man etc; or a Goon of the Jews/Illuminati/NewWorldOrder for pretending when it was so obviously fake...

Absolutely in pieces. Gone for a while, anyway. Still quite a few out there, but not any organisation worth mentioning. There is the international aspect, but it's way beyond my ability to track. I'll leave that to the journalists (they aren't all bad).

I knew they were in the tearing themselves to pieces phase, but didn't realise quite the extent to which they have ripped themselves apart. It's not terminal, sadly - they will be back - but not, I think, for a while.

Well, that was an unexpected pleasure. It used to be something I enjoyed about as much as unblocking a drain!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:54 am

Clodhopper;1402909 wrote: You're right there. I'll ask spot if I ever need the details.

Wandered round most of the old haunts and found them closed down, funding collapsed, interest gone. Tumbleweed blowing along empty cyberstreets. Pointless slogans banging erratically, and just me, keyboard emphasising the silence.

Oh joy.

Never thought I'd have a good word to say about conspiracy theory. I do now: In the few places left, they were entirely caught up in arguments about whether Neil Armstrong was a White Hero for being 1st man etc; or a Goon of the Jews/Illuminati/NewWorldOrder for pretending when it was so obviously fake...

Absolutely in pieces. Gone for a while, anyway. Still quite a few out there, but not any organisation worth mentioning. There is the international aspect, but it's way beyond my ability to track. I'll leave that to the journalists (they aren't all bad).

I knew they were in the tearing themselves to pieces phase, but didn't realise quite the extent to which they have ripped themselves apart. It's not terminal, sadly - they will be back - but not, I think, for a while.

Well, that was an unexpected pleasure. It used to be something I enjoyed about as much as unblocking a drain!
You live In Cuckoo land Clod... You;ve just described the Lib Dems.

Take a good hard look at local elections results.... the Lib Dems trailed In behind the BNP In several cities and towns. Even gmc knows that but you keep burying your head In the sand eh Clod?

The BNP despite the Internal politics will still take a million votes In the next General.... If the plan works ( which Is why you will find nothing about NU on the web) and all Nationalist parties merge for the General, they will finish your sniverling little traitor party once and for all.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:59 pm

There is one nationalist party still alive and kicking that has both the tories and labour frightened silly they might be successful.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:11 pm

gmc;1402999 wrote: There is one nationalist party still alive and kicking that has both the tories and labour frightened silly they might be successful. Very true....