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If they were listening to RAP I might understand.
OK, not funny.
I fully understand that traditional or orthodox Islam is not at all comprehensible to the western way of thought. These Taliban guys take Islam to a whole new level, unacceptable to any rational person.
In the Judeo/Christian world, we have our share of wackos, but geez, can't remember the last beheading for a religious violation.
OK, not funny.
I fully understand that traditional or orthodox Islam is not at all comprehensible to the western way of thought. These Taliban guys take Islam to a whole new level, unacceptable to any rational person.
In the Judeo/Christian world, we have our share of wackos, but geez, can't remember the last beheading for a religious violation.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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can't remember the last beheading for a religious violation.
In Europe they were generally burned at the stake for heresy or witchcraft (and a range of other offences) but was rare in England after Bloody Mary who (mostly) burned about 200 for protestantism in a five year period up to 1558.
Cannot at present find info on the last religious murder in Britain. Anyone know? Did America stop burning after Salem?
In Europe they were generally burned at the stake for heresy or witchcraft (and a range of other offences) but was rare in England after Bloody Mary who (mostly) burned about 200 for protestantism in a five year period up to 1558.
Cannot at present find info on the last religious murder in Britain. Anyone know? Did America stop burning after Salem?
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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For the record, and until I have time and opportunity to dig, I think the report is a propagandist lie.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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tude dog;1402237 wrote: If they were listening to RAP I might understand.
OK, not funny.
I fully understand that traditional or orthodox Islam is not at all comprehensible to the western way of thought. These Taliban guys take Islam to a whole new level, unacceptable to any rational person.
In the Judeo/Christian world, we have our share of wackos, but geez, can't remember the last beheading for a religious violation.Define "wacko" in this context. I'd think talking to an invisible entity and believing the entity is listening is pretty wacko.
OK, not funny.
I fully understand that traditional or orthodox Islam is not at all comprehensible to the western way of thought. These Taliban guys take Islam to a whole new level, unacceptable to any rational person.
In the Judeo/Christian world, we have our share of wackos, but geez, can't remember the last beheading for a religious violation.Define "wacko" in this context. I'd think talking to an invisible entity and believing the entity is listening is pretty wacko.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities,
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spot;1402295 wrote: For the record, and until I have time and opportunity to dig, I think the report is a propagandist lie.
I'm so glad you set the record straight.
I'm so glad you set the record straight.
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AnneBoleyn;1402302 wrote: I'm so glad you set the record straight.
No, I haven't - I was just annoyed at the partiality of the thread. I'm not at home so digging around news sources will have to wait. I'd not be surprised if there had been an attack - the country is under foreign occupation, after all, and we're talking about the acknowledged resistance movement. I'd not be surprised if the death count is right. I challenge the reason given and the "17 beheaded" but only on the grounds that the Afghan Quisling administration has lied repeatedly in the past for progaganda reasons and been caught out doing it.
No, I haven't - I was just annoyed at the partiality of the thread. I'm not at home so digging around news sources will have to wait. I'd not be surprised if there had been an attack - the country is under foreign occupation, after all, and we're talking about the acknowledged resistance movement. I'd not be surprised if the death count is right. I challenge the reason given and the "17 beheaded" but only on the grounds that the Afghan Quisling administration has lied repeatedly in the past for progaganda reasons and been caught out doing it.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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Clodhopper;1402285 wrote: In Europe they were generally burned at the stake for heresy or witchcraft (and a range of other offences) but was rare in England after Bloody Mary who (mostly) burned about 200 for protestantism in a five year period up to 1558.
Cannot at present find info on the last religious murder in Britain. Anyone know? Did America stop burning after Salem? What do you think Honour Killings are?
Cannot at present find info on the last religious murder in Britain. Anyone know? Did America stop burning after Salem? What do you think Honour Killings are?
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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Clodhopper;1402285 wrote: Cannot at present find info on the last religious murder in Britain. Anyone know?
How about all the Catholic & Protestant violence related to Northern Ireland?
How about all the Catholic & Protestant violence related to Northern Ireland?
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The article, itself, is fairly simple and straight.
It is the thread title that exhibits partiality.
The Taliban is not Islam, any more than Westboro Baptist Church is Christ.
It is the thread title that exhibits partiality.
The Taliban is not Islam, any more than Westboro Baptist Church is Christ.
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Is this the Taliban?
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
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xfrodobagginsx;1402320 wrote: Is this the Taliban?
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
It is a bunch of angry people who happen to be Muslim.
And then there is:
Some Coptic eyewitnesses said that a number of Muslim villagers tried to prevent the Salafis from assaulting their Christian neighbors and some stood as human shields to protect the church, until security forces arrived.
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
It is a bunch of angry people who happen to be Muslim.
And then there is:
Some Coptic eyewitnesses said that a number of Muslim villagers tried to prevent the Salafis from assaulting their Christian neighbors and some stood as human shields to protect the church, until security forces arrived.
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
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xfrodobagginsx;1402320 wrote: Is this the Taliban?
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
20,000? They must not have been trying very hard. Interesting how the story only appears on Christian blogs, and the number of people involved ranges from 2,000 to 20,000. I wonder why that might be?
20,000 Muslims Attempt to Kill Pastor and Torch Church in Egypt
20,000? They must not have been trying very hard. Interesting how the story only appears on Christian blogs, and the number of people involved ranges from 2,000 to 20,000. I wonder why that might be?
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Sorry, should have been clearer - I was looking for official judicial through the legal system religious murder. I know it still goes on elsewhere - the Saudis stoned a woman to death a year or two ago for adultery.
More generally rolling eyed maniacs will just keep killing eachother. It's not God they are picking up on their direct line. It's the other side.
Ireland's Troubles were a lot more complex than just religion, though it is at the heart of the problems still. And there's only one sure thing you can say about the Irish Troubles: Anything you say about it will be wrong. That applies to me, too.
More generally rolling eyed maniacs will just keep killing eachother. It's not God they are picking up on their direct line. It's the other side.
Ireland's Troubles were a lot more complex than just religion, though it is at the heart of the problems still. And there's only one sure thing you can say about the Irish Troubles: Anything you say about it will be wrong. That applies to me, too.
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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Clodhopper;1402362 wrote: Sorry, should have been clearer - I was looking for official judicial through the legal system religious murder. I know it still goes on elsewhere - the Saudis stoned a woman to death a year or two ago for adultery.
More generally rolling eyed maniacs will just keep killing eachother. It's not God they are picking up on their direct line. It's the other side.
Ireland's Troubles were a lot more complex than just religion, though it is at the heart of the problems still. And there's only one sure thing you can say about the Irish Troubles: Anything you say about it will be wrong. That applies to me, too. Honour Killings? The Muslims carrying them out are British born.
More generally rolling eyed maniacs will just keep killing eachother. It's not God they are picking up on their direct line. It's the other side.
Ireland's Troubles were a lot more complex than just religion, though it is at the heart of the problems still. And there's only one sure thing you can say about the Irish Troubles: Anything you say about it will be wrong. That applies to me, too. Honour Killings? The Muslims carrying them out are British born.
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Honour Killings? The Muslims carrying them out are British born.
Not judicial. I'm looking for when we in England stopped openly killing people through the courts for their religion.
Not judicial. I'm looking for when we in England stopped openly killing people through the courts for their religion.
The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
Lone voice: "I'm not."
Lone voice: "I'm not."
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I look forward to the day when there is an acknowledgement that a military group isn't representative of an entire religion or nation. Fallujah. Haditha. Video footage of the Baghdad "collateral murders"... Do the massacres in Iraq mean all Christians and/or Americans are evil backwards people? spot. down boy. and gmc (on the subject of christians)
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Ahso!;1402297 wrote: Define "wacko" in this context. I'd think talking to an invisible entity and believing the entity is listening is pretty wacko.
The Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka KS first comes to mind.
Then there are the snake handlers, one just died a couple of weeks ago or so, when bit by a poisonous snake then refused medical treatment. At least the snake handlers are not a threat to anyone else.
Then there are the Mormons (not official LDS Mormons) who do the polygamy thing. Polygamy by itself isn't harmful, unless we are talking about the rape of minor girls and excommunication/exile of male children.
I'm sure I could go on, but I am not interested in starting another thread bashing whacked out religious folk.
The Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka KS first comes to mind.
Then there are the snake handlers, one just died a couple of weeks ago or so, when bit by a poisonous snake then refused medical treatment. At least the snake handlers are not a threat to anyone else.
Then there are the Mormons (not official LDS Mormons) who do the polygamy thing. Polygamy by itself isn't harmful, unless we are talking about the rape of minor girls and excommunication/exile of male children.
I'm sure I could go on, but I am not interested in starting another thread bashing whacked out religious folk.
What happened to Kamala Harris' campaign?
She had the black vote all locked up.
She had the black vote all locked up.
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What an illogic badly formulated title !
If atheist commit a crime then atheism made it ! What a briliant concept !
If atheist commit a crime then atheism made it ! What a briliant concept !
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So then those here to say that islam is a religion of peace, do you support or oppose Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and there other muslim Countries having Nuclear Weapons? After all, islam is a religion of peace right?
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xfrodobagginsx;1402486 wrote: So then those here to say that islam is a religion of peace, do you support or oppose Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and there other muslim Countries having Nuclear Weapons? After all, islam is a religion of peace right?
Bloody right I support it. Nobody invades a nuclear-armed country, or had you not noticed that. If the Christian countries didn't go hell-for-leather into Crusading there'd be no need for it. Stop assaulting foreign countries, Baggins.
Bloody right I support it. Nobody invades a nuclear-armed country, or had you not noticed that. If the Christian countries didn't go hell-for-leather into Crusading there'd be no need for it. Stop assaulting foreign countries, Baggins.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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spot;1402488 wrote: Bloody right I support it. Nobody invades a nuclear-armed country, or had you not noticed that. If the Christian countries didn't go hell-for-leather into Crusading there'd be no need for it. Stop assaulting foreign countries, Baggins.
So your Brittish I see? So, you support all of the muslim ran countries having nuclear weapons? It's a good thing that the rest of the world disagrees with you, including the leaders in all fo the very liberal European Countries, including your homeland, and even the Liberals in America. If they ever get nuclear weapons, the world as we know it will be gone. That's because islam is a violent, intolerant, angry religion. Did you like Tony Blair? he he
So your Brittish I see? So, you support all of the muslim ran countries having nuclear weapons? It's a good thing that the rest of the world disagrees with you, including the leaders in all fo the very liberal European Countries, including your homeland, and even the Liberals in America. If they ever get nuclear weapons, the world as we know it will be gone. That's because islam is a violent, intolerant, angry religion. Did you like Tony Blair? he he
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xfrodobagginsx;1402493 wrote: So, you support all of the muslim ran countries having nuclear weapons? It's a good thing that the rest of the world disagrees with you, including the leaders in Europe and America. If they ever get nuclear weapons, the world as we know it will be gone. That's because islam is a violent, intolerant, angry religion.
Looked like an answer to me.
As was rightfully pointed out in previous posts Taliban doesnt represent Islam any more than the Westboro baptists represent Christianity. but you chose to ignore those.
Looked like an answer to me.
As was rightfully pointed out in previous posts Taliban doesnt represent Islam any more than the Westboro baptists represent Christianity. but you chose to ignore those.
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LarsMac;1402322 wrote: It is a bunch of angry people who happen to be Muslim.
And then there is:
islam is chock FULL of literally MILLIONS and MILLIONS of angry people who just happen to be muslim. It has nothing to do with the teachings of the quran or islam. The quran says otherwise. They are following what the quran actually says to do, you know, these things:
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled
And then there is:
islam is chock FULL of literally MILLIONS and MILLIONS of angry people who just happen to be muslim. It has nothing to do with the teachings of the quran or islam. The quran says otherwise. They are following what the quran actually says to do, you know, these things:
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled
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xfrodobagginsx;1402493 wrote: That's because islam is a violent, intolerant, angry religion.So is every monotheist religion which claims revelatory truth, none more so than the one you're peddling here. I trust Christian evangelists as little as I trust any other monotheist evangelist. I especially mistrust American foreign policy when you have little chance of becoming a national politician in the USA without being a church-goer. I mistrust it because of the number of foreigners who are killed by these Christian Presidents. Why on earth should I mistrust Muslims to any greater extent? Who does most of the killing? Bloody Christians, that's who. Christianity is a violent, intolerant, angry religion, to use your own words - visibly so, evidently so. As far as Christianity's concerned we don't need to guess, we just need to count the bodies.
I note in passing that Christians don't do body-counts. One can see why not.
I note in passing that Christians don't do body-counts. One can see why not.
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tude dog;1402387 wrote: The Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka KS first comes to mind.
Then there are the snake handlers, one just died a couple of weeks ago or so, when bit by a poisonous snake then refused medical treatment. At least the snake handlers are not a threat to anyone else.
Then there are the Mormons (not official LDS Mormons) who do the polygamy thing. Polygamy by itself isn't harmful, unless we are talking about the rape of minor girls and excommunication/exile of male children.
I'm sure I could go on, but I am not interested in starting another thread bashing whacked out religious folk.Examples isn't a definition, but I take it you mean anything outside mainstream? Last I heard, the Taliban wasn't mainstream Islam, though I'm no expert on Islam.
Then there are the snake handlers, one just died a couple of weeks ago or so, when bit by a poisonous snake then refused medical treatment. At least the snake handlers are not a threat to anyone else.
Then there are the Mormons (not official LDS Mormons) who do the polygamy thing. Polygamy by itself isn't harmful, unless we are talking about the rape of minor girls and excommunication/exile of male children.
I'm sure I could go on, but I am not interested in starting another thread bashing whacked out religious folk.Examples isn't a definition, but I take it you mean anything outside mainstream? Last I heard, the Taliban wasn't mainstream Islam, though I'm no expert on Islam.
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You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades. A certain irony there I'm sure you'd agree.
I think even Judaism did it's share of empire building in between everyone stamping on their heads. Seems to be a rather adolescent phase monotheistic religions are prone to in development. Some Christians never grew out of it and many Muslims already have.
Unless some empire or other has the whole area under lockdown, I can't off the top of my head think of a period where the Middle East hasn't been a roiling mass of chaos as well as the originator of vast civilisations, agriculture and beer.
I think even Judaism did it's share of empire building in between everyone stamping on their heads. Seems to be a rather adolescent phase monotheistic religions are prone to in development. Some Christians never grew out of it and many Muslims already have.
Unless some empire or other has the whole area under lockdown, I can't off the top of my head think of a period where the Middle East hasn't been a roiling mass of chaos as well as the originator of vast civilisations, agriculture and beer.
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Has islam ever gone in for the systematic extermination of a people because of their religion? Christians have, anyone who doesn't think the holocaust was the result of two thousand years of Christian anti-Semitism really isn't paying attention. In the sixties the catholic church conceded that the jews were not collectively responsible for killing jesus Only last year the pope finally exonerated the jews for the crime of killing jesus, not bad I suppose for a member of the hitler youth. Hitler emerged from the religious right and also opposed abortion, homosexuality, and pornography, who does that remind you of. The existence of the jewish state has somehow become essential to rhe christian faith with some evengelicals. Germany was a Christian country had any of the church leaders been prepared to speak out rather than the few individuals priests that did the holocaust might never have happened, but they all kept quiet. All the surrounding christian states refused entry to jews trying to flee the states passed specific laws banning jewish immigration as did many others. It takes religion to have so much hate for another religion, monotheist religions without exception tell their followers everybody else is going to hell, both christians and islam have at various times preached it was OK to kill non believers. Israel has nuclear weapons maybe their god will tell them it's OK to take out the unbeliever before they can defend themselves, god knows the bible is full of such invocations to action and records instances when they did.
Iran and syria are no threat even together they are not big enough to take on nato and if they were daft enugh to use niclear weapons on us their survival would be minutes rather than days. The biggestb threat is saudi arabia, after attacking the United states (911, if you recall the terrorists were saudi citizens and the whole operation was backed by suadi money) by sheer genius they got the west to take out their main rival in the area, Iraq. Iran was already weakened by decades of warfare and doesn't have the capacity to hurt a fly, possible nuclear weapons notwithstanding and i think they are about as likely as saddam Hussein having them.
If you want to stop muslim terrorism get saudi arabia to stop funding them. Seize all saudi assets in foreign banks as a first step and stop them funding the insurgents in syria before a broadly peaceful regime is replaced by overtly hostile to the west. If the terrorist were really intent on hurting the west they wouldn't bother with plane hijacking, sinking a few tankers in san Francisco harbour would be more effective and easier to do or attacking a few oil refineries with heavy weapons.
Iran and syria are no threat even together they are not big enough to take on nato and if they were daft enugh to use niclear weapons on us their survival would be minutes rather than days. The biggestb threat is saudi arabia, after attacking the United states (911, if you recall the terrorists were saudi citizens and the whole operation was backed by suadi money) by sheer genius they got the west to take out their main rival in the area, Iraq. Iran was already weakened by decades of warfare and doesn't have the capacity to hurt a fly, possible nuclear weapons notwithstanding and i think they are about as likely as saddam Hussein having them.
If you want to stop muslim terrorism get saudi arabia to stop funding them. Seize all saudi assets in foreign banks as a first step and stop them funding the insurgents in syria before a broadly peaceful regime is replaced by overtly hostile to the west. If the terrorist were really intent on hurting the west they wouldn't bother with plane hijacking, sinking a few tankers in san Francisco harbour would be more effective and easier to do or attacking a few oil refineries with heavy weapons.
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Clodhopper;1402606 wrote: You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades.
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No It Isn't. Islam began In the 7th century..... there Is no factual historical artifacts or evidence to prove otherwise.
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No It Isn't. Islam began In the 7th century..... there Is no factual historical artifacts or evidence to prove otherwise.
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oscar;1402653 wrote: No It Isn't. Islam began In the 7th century..... there Is no factual historical artifacts or evidence to prove otherwise.
Which makes it now around 1300 years old, and the Crusaders were prominently at work around 1300 years after Christianity began.
Which makes it now around 1300 years old, and the Crusaders were prominently at work around 1300 years after Christianity began.
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spot;1402654 wrote: Which makes it now around 1300 years old, and the Crusaders were prominently at work around 1300 years after Christianity began.
Is there the remotest possibility that I can debate with other members other than you without you jumping on almost every post written here?
I was responding to Clodhopper not you.
I was responding to this:
You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades. A certain irony there I'm sure you'd agree.
No, It's not.
Is there the remotest possibility that I can debate with other members other than you without you jumping on almost every post written here?
I was responding to Clodhopper not you.
I was responding to this:
You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades. A certain irony there I'm sure you'd agree.
No, It's not.
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oscar;1402656 wrote: Is there the remotest possibility that I can debate with other members other than you without you jumping on almost every post written here?
I was responding to Clodhopper not you.
I was responding to this:
You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades. A certain irony there I'm sure you'd agree.
No, It's not.
Of course it is. Ignore who the message came from, read Clod's complete sentence slowly, read mine even more slowly and the light might dawn.
I was responding to Clodhopper not you.
I was responding to this:
You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades. A certain irony there I'm sure you'd agree.
No, It's not.
Of course it is. Ignore who the message came from, read Clod's complete sentence slowly, read mine even more slowly and the light might dawn.
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spot;1402657 wrote: Of course it is. Ignore who the message came from, read Clod's complete sentence slowly, read mine even more slowly and the light might dawn.
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oscar;1402661 wrote: :yh_loser:yh_ttth:yh_ttth:yh_ttth
"You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades."
"Which makes it now around 1300 years old, and the Crusaders were prominently at work around 1300 years after Christianity began."
Did you get it this time?
"You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades."
"Which makes it now around 1300 years old, and the Crusaders were prominently at work around 1300 years after Christianity began."
Did you get it this time?
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The first Muslim crusade was 638
The first Christian crusade was 1096
The first Christian crusade was 1096
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oscar;1402664 wrote: The first Muslim crusade was 638
The first Christian crusade was 1096
and today's Muslim crusade is in 2012. Which is 1300 years after they started, give or take.
The first Christian crusade was 1096
and today's Muslim crusade is in 2012. Which is 1300 years after they started, give or take.
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spot;1402665 wrote: and today's Muslim crusade is in 2012. Which is 1300 years after they started, give or take. None the less, 458 years Is a wold away from ' Islam and Christian crusades started around the same time'.... perhaps It's you that needs to read more slowly?
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And the wheels on the spokes go round and round, round and round, round and round.
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There is also of course the number of wars Christian fought with christian over who was the better christian, whole populations were put to the sword to help settle the issue. Did you know it was one of the popes that first made jews wear a the star if david and introduced ghettoes - for their own protection of course.
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oscar;1402672 wrote: None the less, 458 years Is a wold away from ' Islam and Christian crusades started around the same time'
Bloody hell, you can't be this stupid surely.
Nobody here has suggested that the Islamic and Christian crusades started around the same time.
Gimboid.
Bloody hell, you can't be this stupid surely.
Nobody here has suggested that the Islamic and Christian crusades started around the same time.
Gimboid.
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spot;1402695 wrote: Bloody hell, you can't be this stupid surely.
Nobody here has suggested that the Islamic and Christian crusades started around the same time.
Gimboid.
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Nobody here has suggested that the Islamic and Christian crusades started around the same time.
Gimboid.
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You might also want to consider that Islam as a religion is about the same age Christianity was when we went on crusades.
(bold added for emphasis)
We went on Crusade about 1300 years after Christianity started, in about 1300 AD.
Islam founded approx 700 AD, doing Crusady-type things in 2010, approx 1300 years after it was founded.
Don't deny Islam had an early phase where it pushed right into Europe via Spain. But then Christianity piggy-backed on the Roman Empire and I don't call that a Crusade either. Just a different phase.
Anyway, call them what you like, I'm pointing out we have two monotheistic religions both having violent phases about 1300 years after they started.
That's all.
But it's interesting watching you trying to twist it to suit your BNP agenda.
(bold added for emphasis)
We went on Crusade about 1300 years after Christianity started, in about 1300 AD.
Islam founded approx 700 AD, doing Crusady-type things in 2010, approx 1300 years after it was founded.
Don't deny Islam had an early phase where it pushed right into Europe via Spain. But then Christianity piggy-backed on the Roman Empire and I don't call that a Crusade either. Just a different phase.
Anyway, call them what you like, I'm pointing out we have two monotheistic religions both having violent phases about 1300 years after they started.
That's all.
But it's interesting watching you trying to twist it to suit your BNP agenda.
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Clodhopper;1402715 wrote: (bold added for emphasis)
We went on Crusade about 1300 years after Christianity started, in about 1300 AD.
Islam founded approx 700 AD, doing Crusady-type things in 2010, approx 1300 years after it was founded.
Don't deny Islam had an early phase where it pushed right into Europe via Spain. But then Christianity piggy-backed on the Roman Empire and I don't call that a Crusade either. Just a different phase.
Anyway, call them what you like, I'm pointing out we have two monotheistic religions both having violent phases about 1300 years after they started.
That's all.
But it's interesting watching you trying to twist it to suit your BNP agenda. You knowwhat ? You're a moron.
I was just about to write a post saying that due to the way you wrote your post, I understood a little better and would have bowed to your greater knowledge. But you jus have to go and make yourself look like a prize tit with the last comment.
Clod... I am not In the BNP and haven't been with the BNP for some time... I have many friends In Nationalist movements and occassionally I come Into contact with Nick Griffin but I am Involved elsewhere.... there, now you know.
Besides which... even the most moronic knuckle dragger In the BNP doesn't look upon Islam and Christianity as 'you started It first ner ner ner ner ner'.... grow up you silly little boy.
We went on Crusade about 1300 years after Christianity started, in about 1300 AD.
Islam founded approx 700 AD, doing Crusady-type things in 2010, approx 1300 years after it was founded.
Don't deny Islam had an early phase where it pushed right into Europe via Spain. But then Christianity piggy-backed on the Roman Empire and I don't call that a Crusade either. Just a different phase.
Anyway, call them what you like, I'm pointing out we have two monotheistic religions both having violent phases about 1300 years after they started.
That's all.
But it's interesting watching you trying to twist it to suit your BNP agenda.
You knowwhat ? You're a moron.I was just about to write a post saying that due to the way you wrote your post, I understood a little better and would have bowed to your greater knowledge. But you jus have to go and make yourself look like a prize tit with the last comment.
Clod... I am not In the BNP and haven't been with the BNP for some time... I have many friends In Nationalist movements and occassionally I come Into contact with Nick Griffin but I am Involved elsewhere.... there, now you know.
Besides which... even the most moronic knuckle dragger In the BNP doesn't look upon Islam and Christianity as 'you started It first ner ner ner ner ner'.... grow up you silly little boy.
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Where's the nearest ducking stool, that's what I want to know.
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I am not In the BNP and haven't been with the BNP for some time...
Good. I make no apology for rudeness to one of that lot and if you'd said so earlier - which given our past history of disagreement on the issue might have been sensible - I probably wouldn't have said it...
...depending, of course, on where you are now. If it's the KKK I'm lighting up the flamethrower.:p
Good. I make no apology for rudeness to one of that lot and if you'd said so earlier - which given our past history of disagreement on the issue might have been sensible - I probably wouldn't have said it...
...depending, of course, on where you are now. If it's the KKK I'm lighting up the flamethrower.:p
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Clodhopper;1402737 wrote: Good. I make no apology for rudeness to one of that lot and if you'd said so earlier - which given our past history of disagreement on the issue might have been sensible - I probably wouldn't have said it...
...depending, of course, on where you are now. If it's the KKK I'm lighting up the flamethrower.:p
That's just It Isn't It Clod...
You profess here to be the big man....the keeper of the workings of Nationalism and you don't actually have one Iota as to what has happened within the BNP In the past year, new parties, Umbrella's of the BNP, Nationalist groups and splits In all of those forming new alliences.... No... you just carry on In your unimformed, uneducated way because you certainly make a fool of yourself.
...depending, of course, on where you are now. If it's the KKK I'm lighting up the flamethrower.:p
That's just It Isn't It Clod...
You profess here to be the big man....the keeper of the workings of Nationalism and you don't actually have one Iota as to what has happened within the BNP In the past year, new parties, Umbrella's of the BNP, Nationalist groups and splits In all of those forming new alliences.... No... you just carry on In your unimformed, uneducated way because you certainly make a fool of yourself.
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Why anyone would want to soil themselves finding out beats me.
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spot;1402748 wrote: Why anyone would want to soil themselves finding out beats me.
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Ah well.
If you think I'm not aware of the technique of putting the other guy apparently in the wrong over a secondary or totally irrelevant issue and then attacking on that front you're wrong.
And when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP anymore?
We'll start with that and see where it goes.
If you think I'm not aware of the technique of putting the other guy apparently in the wrong over a secondary or totally irrelevant issue and then attacking on that front you're wrong.
And when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP anymore?
We'll start with that and see where it goes.
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Islam, the Religion of Peace Beheads 17 for Listening to Music:
Clodhopper;1402766 wrote: Ah well.
If you think I'm not aware of the technique of putting the other guy apparently in the wrong over a secondary or totally irrelevant issue and then attacking on that front you're wrong.
And when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP anymore?
We'll start with that and see where it goes.
Not being In the BNP stands for nothing.
There Is a BNP MEP for Yorkshire and The Humber who Is not actually In the BNP.... work your head around that !!!
If you think I'm not aware of the technique of putting the other guy apparently in the wrong over a secondary or totally irrelevant issue and then attacking on that front you're wrong.
And when did you come out on these boards as not being in the BNP anymore?
We'll start with that and see where it goes.
Not being In the BNP stands for nothing.
There Is a BNP MEP for Yorkshire and The Humber who Is not actually In the BNP.... work your head around that !!!
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon