Heatwave in the Arctic?

[Bryn Mawr]

Two new reports have come out in the past few days, the first reporting the calving of an iceburg twice the size of Manhattan :-

BBC News - Iceberg breaks off from Greenland's Petermann Glacier



and the second involving unprecedented levels of ice melt in Greenland covering 97% of the surface rather than the normal 40% to 50% :-

BBC News - Satellites reveal sudden Greenland ice melt



These reports, combined with summer ice extents below those of 2007 (the year with the minimum extent on record), suggest that this could be another record year to worry about

[Wandrin]

It's a good thing that global climate change is only a liberal myth. Otherwise, it might be time for worry.

[Bryn Mawr]

Wandrin;1399302 wrote: It's a good thing that global climate change is only a liberal myth. Otherwise, it might be time for worry.


Ah, sorry, I hadn't realised - I'll stop worrying then.

[Wandrin]

Bryn Mawr;1399311 wrote: Ah, sorry, I hadn't realised - I'll stop worrying then.


I have a friend who has been convinced that all of the scientists are lying about global climate change. Whenever I mention it, he responds with the liberal myth line or something similar that he hears or reads from right wing media. It is frustrating. In North Carolina, apparently the state government is controlled by those who think like he does. When the projections of sea level rise for coastal areas were released, they responded by passing a law saying that such projections couldn't use science and should restrict their projections to historical levels at those locations over the past 100 years. Thus, the projected 39 inch rise was reduced to a few inches.

Personally, I'm glad I live in the mountains...

[Bryn Mawr]

Wandrin;1399318 wrote: I have a friend who has been convinced that all of the scientists are lying about global climate change. Whenever I mention it, he responds with the liberal myth line or something similar that he hears or reads from right wing media. It is frustrating. In North Carolina, apparently the state government is controlled by those who think like he does. When the projections of sea level rise for coastal areas were released, they responded by passing a law saying that such projections couldn't use science and should restrict their projections to historical levels at those locations over the past 100 years. Thus, the projected 39 inch rise was reduced to a few inches.

Personally, I'm glad I live in the mountains...


As if making the publishing of projections illegal will stop those projections from coming true? Laughable.

[Bryn Mawr]

Wandrin;1399318 wrote: I have a friend who has been convinced that all of the scientists are lying about global climate change. Whenever I mention it, he responds with the liberal myth line or something similar that he hears or reads from right wing media. It is frustrating. In North Carolina, apparently the state government is controlled by those who think like he does. When the projections of sea level rise for coastal areas were released, they responded by passing a law saying that such projections couldn't use science and should restrict their projections to historical levels at those locations over the past 100 years. Thus, the projected 39 inch rise was reduced to a few inches.

Personally, I'm glad I live in the mountains...


As if making the publishing of projections illegal will stop those projections from coming true? Laughable.

[gmc]

Wandrin;1399318 wrote: I have a friend who has been convinced that all of the scientists are lying about global climate change. Whenever I mention it, he responds with the liberal myth line or something similar that he hears or reads from right wing media. It is frustrating. In North Carolina, apparently the state government is controlled by those who think like he does. When the projections of sea level rise for coastal areas were released, they responded by passing a law saying that such projections couldn't use science and should restrict their projections to historical levels at those locations over the past 100 years. Thus, the projected 39 inch rise was reduced to a few inches.

Personally, I'm glad I live in the mountains...


I occasionally watch god tv I came across one where they were suggesting environmentalism is a new pagan religion whose followers warship nature etc etc. I was laughing my head off at it till I realised they actually believe that crap. If you are rational you look at the evidence and make up your own mind if it is a question of faith you can't really argi=ue a logical case.

Global Warming Deception | GOD TV

It's a well constructed argument that if it is the only one you listen to is persuasive. What's all this crap about global government? Really if America became isolationist and kept out of world affairs the world would get on quite well . Very American centric - al gore is a fairly obscure american politician in the rest of the world as such his book and film is almost incidental to the debate.

[Saint_]

I've read a couple of science fiction short stories about global warming just recently about the people that are living on Earth after things get really bad and I've got to tell you it's scary... it's very scary. I really really worry about the future. Science fiction has a way of coming true because it's written by people who are very intelligent and understand the situation of today.

I guess what worries me most of all are those people who deny global climate change. To think that intelligent people on this planet refuse to listen to science, refuse to care, refuse to worry about future generations, and are so shortsighted and selfish that they completely ignore the obvious.

It's worse than an ostrich with his head in the sand because all that ostrich endangers is itself, but people who deny climate change endanger all of us.





On a lighter note this is the first post that I've ever written using the new Apple iMac

Dictation. I didn't type any of this with a keyboard... computer wrote it all for me!

Looks like that book I wanted to write this Summer is going to come a lot sooner than I thought it would!

[Bryn Mawr]

Saint_;1399512 wrote: I've read a couple of science fiction short stories about global warming just recently about the people that are living on Earth after things get really bad and I've got to tell you it's scary... it's very scary. I really really worry about the future. Science fiction has a way of coming true because it's written by people who are very intelligent and understand the situation of today.

I guess what worries me most of all are those people who deny global climate change. To think that intelligent people on this planet refuse to listen to science, refuse to care, refuse to worry about future generations, and are so shortsighted and selfish that they completely ignore the obvious.

It's worse than an ostrich with his head in the sand because all that ostrich endangers is itself, but people who deny climate change endanger all of us.





On a lighter note this is the first post that I've ever written using the new Apple iMac

Dictation. I didn't type any of this with a keyboard... computer wrote it all for me!

Looks like that book I wanted to write this Summer is going to come a lot sooner than I thought it would!


The majority of the "deniers" within the scientific community appear to be funded by the oil industry which, in my view, makes it prostitution. Also, many of these "scientists" are from disciplines with no connection to climate research. Given the stridency with which the climate change deniers shout and the amount of disinformation they put out it is understandable that "the man in the street" can be confused. Having said that, the evidence is quite plain for those who are prepared to look.

Taking it from the other side, if climate change is true, the consequence of doing nothing is unthinkable. On the other hand, if climate change is false then the consequence of doing something is that we start to tidy up the pollution we have unquestionable caused.



How much training did the software need? And how much correction after the dictation?

You're obviously please with the result so neither can have been too bad.

[LarsMac]

Funny you should mention that.

http://berkeleyearth.org/pdf/results-paper-july-8.pdf

[Bryn Mawr]

LarsMac;1399530 wrote: Funny you should mention that.

http://berkeleyearth.org/pdf/results-paper-july-8.pdf


Yes, I noticed that one with some amusement :-

BBC News - Ex-sceptic says climate change is down to humans