You couldn't make It up...

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:46 am

Story so far....

G4 win contract for security for Olympics.

G4 balls up to the extent that the government are forced to bring In the army.

The army begin operations In London.

The army finds these on their vehicles...

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Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:54 am

You can't imagine that story's anything other than a concocted deliberate lie, oscar.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:34 am

No?

There's not a line of it that makes sense. "It will be removed... to arrange release"? Has the half-wit who concocted the photo never seen a tow-away? Has it not been clamped prior to towing? What kind of parking enforcer is going to leave a car in a drivable state with a tow-away warning affixed?

What national security company puts its main national switchboard number on a "please ring us to arrange release" notice? Who in his right mind is going to put the international dial number +44 on a "please call us" note in London?

How can anyone look at that and not see the horizontal pasted-in badly-photoshopped typing added over an angled page in a photo?

It's not a matter of "You couldn't make It up", it's "You shouldn't make it up". The real story is the thing to focus on, this gibbering pointless trash is just an unwelcome distraction.

Are you seriously of the opinion that it's amusing?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:51 am

spot;1399020 wrote:

Are you seriously of the opinion that it's amusing?

Not half as amusing as your hysterical reaction.......chill out man.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:06 am

Bruv;1399021 wrote: Not half as amusing as your hysterical reaction.......chill out man. I just did a bit of digging as well as ring the number and yes, It Is a hoax.....

I didn't think It was amusing for one minute. Had It of been genuine, I thought It Ironic.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:23 am

Bruv;1399021 wrote: Not half as amusing as your hysterical reaction.......chill out man.

There's a chap in the States who killed a dozen people last night because he thought pretending fiction was fact made a great joke. Blurring the boundary is not clever, neither as regards Batman nor as regards the G4S loadsamoney fiasco.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:30 am

spot;1399024 wrote: There's a chap in the States who killed a dozen people last night because he thought pretending fiction was fact made a great joke. Blurring the boundary is not clever, neither as regards Batman nor as regards the G4S loadsamoney fiasco.
You're making wild assumptions. Until the gunman has been assessed by doctors and experts, there Is nothing to suggest that he actually believed he was In a Batman movie.

Being dresses as Batman Is a gulf away from believing fiction to a point where you murder people thinking you are In a movie.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:31 am

spot;1399024 wrote: There's a chap in the States who killed a dozen people last night because he thought pretending fiction was fact made a great joke. Blurring the boundary is not clever, neither as regards Batman nor as regards the G4S loadsamoney fiasco.
Blurring the boundary ?

Are you relating a nutter shooting people in America to a harmless photographic pun ?

Have you ever played Boo with a child ?

Is that blurring the boundary ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:34 am

Let's at least wait until the gunman has given a police Interview and been assessed by experts before making such wild assumptions.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:35 am

oscar;1399026 wrote: there Is nothing to suggest that he actually believed he was In a Batman movie.
I don't for a moment think he believed he was In a Batman movie.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:41 am

spot;1399029 wrote: I don't for a moment think he believed he was In a Batman movie.

Originally Posted by spot

There's a chap in the States who killed a dozen people last night because he thought pretending fiction was fact made a great joke. Blurring the boundary is not clever, neither as regards Batman nor as regards the G4S loadsamoney fiasco.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:49 am

And?

He blurred the boundary between the fiction on screen and the fact in the cinema. People even said afterwards they thought to begin with that he was part of the entertainment.

I don't for a moment think he "believed he was In a Batman movie".

There were 24 dead in a bus crash earlier that day for whom I have far more sympathy than for those in the cinema. A country that can make a film like that - and an audience that can voluntarily go and watch it - has self-inflicted wounds, it breeds its own mass murderers. If you're looking for irony, consider President Obama's words - "As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors"? From the man who chooses to deploy drones that kill families in Pakistan on a far greater scale? How ironic do you want.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:52 am

spot;1399031 wrote: And?

He blurred the boundary between the fiction on screen and the fact in the cinema. People even said afterwards they thought to begin with that he was part of the entertainment.

I don't for a moment think he "believed he was In a Batman movie".

There were 24 dead in a bus crash earlier that day for whom I have far more sympathy than for those in the cinema. A country that can make a film like that has self-inflicted wounds, it breeds its own mass murderers. If you're looking for irony, consider President Obama's words - "As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors"? From the man who deploys drones that kill families in Pakistan on a far greater scale? How ironic do you want.

Spot, that really Is terrible things to say.

You need to chill dear man.... Clevedon Pier maybe?

BTW... Is this the same Obama you were praising so highly pre election?

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:53 am

oscar;1399032 wrote: Spot, that really Is terrible things to say.
I'd much rather they weren't true.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:55 am

spot;1399033 wrote: I'd much rather they weren't true. However factual Spot, It's Insulting to our US members. Come on Spot, get a grip... we're not exactly bustling with members and posts here are we ?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:58 am

Someone thought a picture of a G4S Parking ticket on a military vehicle might raise a titter........

How are we now talking about events that occurred in an American cinema and how it relates to their foreign policy?

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:58 am

oscar;1399034 wrote: However factual Spot, It's Insulting to our US members. Come on Spot, get a grip... we're not exactly bustling with members and posts here are we ?

If anyone goes to see this appalling kill-fest film perhaps they'd count the number of on-screen deaths it depicts and report back to the thread.

Did I read there were children under ten in the auditorium for this midnight showing? And you wonder why Americans are desensitised to violence?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:59 am

Bruv;1399035 wrote: Someone thought a picture of a G4S Parking ticket on a military vehicle might raise a titter........

How are we now talking about events that occurred in an American cinema and how it relates to their foreign policy? Did you really expect anything else ? :wah:

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:00 am

oscar;1399032 wrote: BTW... Is this the same Obama you were praising so highly pre election?It didn't happen, you're thinking of Ralph Nader.

eta: On a point of information I consistently said I wanted a Republican voted in as President in 2008, not a Democrat.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:00 am

spot;1399036 wrote: If anyone goes to see this appalling kill-fest film perhaps they'd count the number of on-screen deaths it depicts and report back to the thread.

Did I read there were children under ten in the auditorium for this midnight showing? And you wonder why Americans are desensitised to violence? Oh Spot Please.... take a trip to a midnight showing In Bristol and you'll see 5 year olds.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:01 am

spot;1399038 wrote: It didn't happen, you're thinking of Ralph Nader. Have you been back and deleted all your posts? :wah:

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:07 am

Is this part of a Monty Python sketch ?

G4S parking ticket = A discussion on US morals and Hollywood's influence in forming them.

The Post title is right "You couldn't make it up"

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:08 am

Bruv;1399041 wrote: Is this part of a Monty Python sketch ?

G4S parking ticket = A discussion on US morals and Hollywood's influence in forming them.

The Post title is right "You couldn't make it up" Errr scuse me Bruv.... I am not having a discussion on US morals etc etc.... Spot Is having the discussion.......... with himself.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:09 am

oscar;1399039 wrote: Oh Spot Please.... take a trip to a midnight showing In Bristol and you'll see 5 year olds.

I don't believe you.

Bruv;1399041 wrote: G4S parking ticket = A discussion on US morals and Hollywood's influence in forming them.
The chap with the weaponry in the cinema behaved in an uncultured manner by shooting at the audience.

The audience behaved in an uncultured manner by attending the film.

The film makers behaved in an uncultured manner by making the death-fest in the first place.

I suggest there's a chain of cause and effect all the way down the line there.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:12 am

spot;1399043 wrote: I don't believe you.

The chap with the weaponry in the cinema behaved in an uncultured manner by shooting at the audience.

The audience behaved in an uncultured manner by attending the film.

The film makers behaved in an uncultured manner by making the death-fest in the first place.

I suggest there's a chain of cause and effect all the way down the line there.

How many times has the Batman movie series been shown In the UK ? How many gunman shooting the audience?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:12 am

spot;1399043 wrote: I don't believe you.

The chap with the weaponry in the cinema behaved in an uncultured manner by shooting at the audience.

The audience behaved in an uncultured manner by attending the film.

The film makers behaved in an uncultured manner by making the death-fest in the first place.

I suggest there's a chain of cause and effect all the way down the line there.

I reckon all this uncultured nonsense starts with the innocuous taking threads off topic and it snowballs from there.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:18 am

[QUOTE=spot;1399043]I don't believe you.

Boy wizard set to cast a spell over Bristol's cinema-goers | This is Bristol

In the UK it is a 12A which means a child under 12 can only view the film with someone over 18 and it is the parents choice.

Read more: Can a child watch Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

As I said Spot... go to a midnight showing In Bristol and you'll see 5 year olds.... with parents.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:28 am

What is ironic is that the wages offered are above the minimum wage yet there are not enough takers - in London there is no real unemployment and that's just one of the reasons politicians think anyone long term unemployed is not trying to get a job. Drive around any industrial estate in the north of England and you will fond thousands of people who would like to be paid £8 an hour - it would be a welcome pay rise.

What else you couldn't make up is the fact that G4s will NOT be refunding any of the management fees they have received but never mind the Govt. is going to sort out all the benefit scroungers and those families who do not take responsibility for their mistakes and have too many kids so that's OK then, much easier to take money off the unemployed and disabled and let's have a go at the chavs while they're at it than get it back from a big international company that hasn't delivered what it was paid for.

I would like to give more money to the banks - after all they need it to get the economy going again. Maybe oscar could organise a whip round, given spot's predilection for misunderstanding and deliberate misinterpretation the prospect of oscar having a whip round should really liven things up a bit. :sneaky:

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:59 am

spot;1399031 wrote: And?

He blurred the boundary between the fiction on screen and the fact in the cinema. People even said afterwards they thought to begin with that he was part of the entertainment.

I don't for a moment think he "believed he was In a Batman movie".

There were 24 dead in a bus crash earlier that day for whom I have far more sympathy than for those in the cinema. A country that can make a film like that - and an audience that can voluntarily go and watch it - has self-inflicted wounds, it breeds its own mass murderers. If you're looking for irony, consider President Obama's words - "As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors"? From the man who chooses to deploy drones that kill families in Pakistan on a far greater scale? How ironic do you want.

The Dark Knight trilogy was co-written, produced and directed by Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan is British. How ironic is that, hater of all things American?

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:03 am

SnoozeAgain;1399048 wrote: The Dark Knight trilogy was co-written, produced and directed by Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan is British. How ironic is that, hater of all things American?

I have no more regard for Christopher Nolan than I have for anyone else involved in its production.

My sympathies are firmly with Americans, who have a great deal to contend with. I despise various aspects of American society. The Hollywood film industry figures strongly in that regard.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:25 am

spot;1399050 wrote: I have no more regard for Christopher Nolan than I have for anyone else involved in its production.

My sympathies are firmly with Americans, who have a great deal to contend with. I despise various aspects of American society. The Hollywood film industry figures strongly in that regard.
Here's some Irony.

Director Michael Winterbottom defends film's extreme violence | Film | The Guardian

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:36 am

oscar;1399051 wrote: Here's some Irony.

Director Michael Winterbottom defends film's extreme violence | Film | The Guardian

Oh look, another Brit.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:39 am

spot;1399043 wrote: I don't believe you.

The chap with the weaponry in the cinema behaved in an uncultured manner by shooting at the audience.

The audience behaved in an uncultured manner by attending the film.

The film makers behaved in an uncultured manner by making the death-fest in the first place.

I suggest there's a chain of cause and effect all the way down the line there.

The 60's TV series featured a distinctly camp batman and the exact relationship with robin the boy wonder was the subject of much speculation and not a few jokes yet no one ever suggested it would lead to children turning out to be gay copying their erstwhile heroes. Andy pandy was a bit suspect as well and you are I suspect of generation where the flowerpot men have not done irredeemable harm to your speech. You may suggest there is cause and effect but there is very little evidence to back up your opinion. The vast majority of people can tell the difference between reality and fantasy seizing on odd incidents and taking it as proof of cause and effect does not make a lot of sense. Religious belief causes far more death and destruction than any film ever did perhaps that is because those attracted to religion are less capable of telling fantasy from reality yet no one dare suggest banning religion the irony being they do not dare to do so for fear of reprisal from those who disagree that religion justifies causes violence in the minds of the gullible.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:41 am

SnoozeAgain;1399052 wrote: Oh look, another Brit. Then of course we have Guy Ritchie, British Film maker... his films are full of violence.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:45 am

gmc;1399053 wrote: The 60's TV series featured a distinctly camp batman and the exact relationship with robin the boy wonder was the subject of much speculation and not a few jokes yet no one ever suggested it would lead to children turning out to be gay copying their erstwhile heroes. Andy pandy was a bit suspect as well and you are I suspect of generation where the flowerpot men have not done irredeemable harm to your speech. You may suggest there is cause and effect but there is very little evidence to back up your opinion. The vast majority of people can tell the difference between reality and fantasy seizing on odd incidents and taking it as proof of cause and effect does not make a lot of sense. Religious belief causes far more death and destruction than any film ever did perhaps that is because those attracted to religion are less capable of telling fantasy from reality yet no one dare suggest banning religion the irony being they do not dare to do so for fear of reprisal from those who disagree that religion justifies causes violence in the minds of the gullible.
It was Adam West In the 60's I recall.... and yes, It was camp.

I agree with you.... Does this mean we have a generation of children who believe they are wizards thanks to JK Rowling?

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:54 am

Flobadob.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:00 am

spot;1399056 wrote: Flobadob. Grammatically Incorrect.

The Flower Pot Men spoke their own, highly inflected version of English, called Oddle Poddle. However, the popular notion that they ever said "Flobbalob" or "Flobbadob" is an urban myth; if one listened carefully to their banter, one could hear words like "Loblob" ("lovely") and "Flobberpop" ("flowerpot"), either of which could have given rise to the urban myth. At the end of each adventure, they would say bye-bye to each other and to the Little Weed - "Babap ickle Weed" - to which the Weed would inevitably reply with tremulous cadence "Weeeeeeeeeeed"

Flower Pot Men - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:08 am

oscar;1399057 wrote: Grammatically Incorrect.
Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men Dance - YouTube

That's flobalob, very distinctly. I attest from memory to the variant flobadob, having Listened With Mother.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:15 am

spot;1399058 wrote: Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men Dance - YouTube

That's flobalob, very distinctly. I attest from memory to the variant flobadob, having Listened With Mother.

What ??? You mean you disbelieve Wikki....the same Wikki you use on occasions to prove your point?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:30 am

spot;1399058 wrote: Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men Dance - YouTube

That's flobalob, very distinctly. I attest from memory to the variant flobadob, having Listened With Mother.

Seems you were right:

Toonhound - The Flowerpot Men (1952-1970)

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:38 am

oscar;1399059 wrote: What ??? You mean you disbelieve Wikki....the same Wikki you use on occasions to prove your point?

You make foul claims far too often. Very occasionally I use Wikipedia to find material which originates not with Wikipedia but with a credible documented source. I don't think you'll find any example of my quoting Wikipedia except where the documented source is shown. The paragraph you offered, by contrast, has no documented source and is demonstrably wrong as we've both shown. What you might now do is edit the article into something more resembling truth - not an act I'd normally associate with you, but there's a first time for everything.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:42 am

spot;1399063 wrote: You make foul claims far too often. Very occasionally I use Wikipedia to find material which originates not with Wikipedia but with a credible documented source. I don't think you'll find any example of my quoting Wikipedia except where the documented source is shown. The paragraph you offered, by contrast, has no documented source and is demonstrably wrong as we've both shown. What you might now do is edit the article into something more resembling truth - not an act I'd normally associate with you, but there's a first time for everything. Well you've Insulted the American members, I suppose the personal Insults toward me were just matter of course and expected.

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:46 am

oscar;1399065 wrote: Well you've Insulted the American members, I suppose the personal Insults toward me were just matter of course and expected.

Merely correcting your inaccuracies. I've edited the Wikipedia paragraph too, and added a discussion section.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:48 am

spot;1399066 wrote: Merely correcting your inaccuracies. I've edited the Wikipedia paragraph too, and added a discussion section.

That's very good of you. Thank you

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:50 am

gmc;1399047 wrote:

I would like to give more money to the banks - after all they need it to get the economy going again. Maybe oscar could organise a whip round, given spot's predilection for misunderstanding and deliberate misinterpretation the prospect of oscar having a whip round should really liven things up a bit. :sneaky: No... I don't believe It.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:05 am

spot;1399058 wrote: Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men Dance - YouTube

That's flobalob, very distinctly. I attest from memory to the variant flobadob, having Listened With Mother.

This explains so very, very much.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:21 am

SnoozeAgain;1399069 wrote: This explains so very, very much. Yet offers no excuses.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:37 am

spot;1399024 wrote: There's a chap in the States who killed a dozen people last night because he thought pretending fiction was fact made a great joke. Blurring the boundary is not clever, neither as regards Batman nor as regards the G4S loadsamoney fiasco.

There is, how about you discuss that somewhere else?

It's not got anything to do with someone jokingly putting up a fake tow away ticket for a practical joke, no one was harmed in the making of the joke.

Post by **Betty Boop** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:40 am

spot;1399043 wrote: I don't believe you.

The chap with the weaponry in the cinema behaved in an uncultured manner by shooting at the audience.

The audience behaved in an uncultured manner by attending the film.

The film makers behaved in an uncultured manner by making the death-fest in the first place.

I suggest there's a chain of cause and effect all the way down the line there.

You could start another thread for yourself, define 'cultured'

Post by **spot** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:58 am

Betty Boop;1399082 wrote: It's not got anything to do with someone jokingly putting up a fake tow away ticket for a practical joke, no one was harmed in the making of the joke.Ah, is that the problem.

I think you're wrong, I think the two things are identical in all but scale.