Another weird news story from Florida

Post by **spot** » Wed May 30, 2012 3:56 pm

Bruv;1394849 wrote: I think we have a group of reasonable people trying to analyse the News equivalent of a game of Chinese whispers, relaying what they think they heard.

Or, in my case, what's been written that stinks of institutional lying.

I bet when the survivor appears, the media will be full of "miraculous what surgery can achieve now".

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 3:58 pm

spot;1394852 wrote: You've not had a good day, all things considered. Everything I've seen indicates the classic symptoms of dementia on your part. The only consolation I can offer is that at least you've had a full innings - the early onset version is much more of a personal tragedy. Didn't you accuse a member here of dementia two weeks before she died and when her cancer had gone to her brain?

I was diagnosed with bowel cancer very recently Spot and am going Into hospital In the next two weeks for surgery.... maybe mine has gone to my brain also eh ?

Or maybe you're just a revolting excuse of a human being.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:02 pm

spot;1394852 wrote: You've not had a good day, all things considered. Everything I've seen indicates the classic symptoms of dementia on your part. The only consolation I can offer is that at least you've had a full innings - the early onset version is much more of a personal tragedy.

She's the same age as me, you jerk.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:03 pm

oscar;1394856 wrote: Didn't you accuse a member here of dementia two weeks before she died and when her cancer had gone to her brain?

I was diagnosed with bowel cancer very recently Spot and am going Into hospital In the next two weeks for surgery.... maybe mine has gone to my brain also eh ?

Or maybe you're just a revolting excuse of a human being.

I'm sorry to hear that, Oscar. Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:04 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394860 wrote: She's the same age as me, you jerk. We don't look as old as Spot.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:05 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394861 wrote: I'm sorry to hear that, Oscar. Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

The prognosis Is good... Thanks... I'll let you know the date of my surgery... I expect gifts.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:05 pm

oscar;1394864 wrote: We don't look as old as Spot.

We wouldn't, I think he's in his mid 80s.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:06 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394866 wrote: We wouldn't, I think he's in his mid 80s. I suspect Spot has a bus pass

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:09 pm

oscar;1394865 wrote: The prognosis Is good... Thanks... I'll let you know the date of my surgery... I expect gifts.

Glad to hear..........you'll get nought from me, except my best wishes.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:09 pm

oscar;1394867 wrote: I suspect Spot has a bus pass

With his dodgy birth certificate ?

Post by **spot** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:10 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394866 wrote: We wouldn't, I think he's in his mid 80s.

Close.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:10 pm

Bruv;1394869 wrote: Glad to hear..........you'll get nought from me, except my best wishes.

Thanks... I'll be alright... I'm a tough old bird and they got It early.

Post by **spot** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:12 pm

oscar;1394867 wrote: I suspect Spot has a bus pass

I get into the Bierkeller at concessionary rates too.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:14 pm

spot;1394873 wrote: I get into the Bierkeller at concessionary rates too. I can Imagine you slapping your

Lederhosen

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:16 pm

oscar;1394875 wrote: I can Imagine you slapping your

Lederhosen

That sounds absolutely filthy.

Post by **spot** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:17 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394876 wrote: That sounds absolutely filthy.
You need them in there, the chairs are always sticky.

I assume it's beer.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:18 pm

SnoozeAgain;1394876 wrote: That sounds absolutely filthy. It could be an eupherism for something entirely different

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:50 am

According to this, the victim remains critical with his nose, mouth and eyes torn off..

Rudy Eugene: Last words of Miami cannibal to his girlfriend before attack on Ronald Poppo | Mail Online

But of course Spot will Insist he carries out a full media Interview In the glare of worldwide camera's just to save himself looking wrong on all counts.

Thinking logically, If the victim was In such a critical condition, surely the cops had to put his life first?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:06 am

Mr Poppo's photos.....Extreme caution for the faint hearted

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:14 am

Bruv;1394944 wrote: Mr Poppo's photos.....Extreme caution for the faint hearted

OMG !!!! That poor man.....

Of course Spot will Insist you have edited the pics or those lying devious US police are lying and that's not really Mr Poppo.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu May 31, 2012 10:52 am

I never want to see anything like this ever again. I guess I'm one of the faint-hearted.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:13 am

AnneBoleyn;1394976 wrote: I never want to see anything like this ever again. I guess I'm one of the faint-hearted.

Me too, you were warned though.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu May 31, 2012 2:58 pm

I couldn't look, it was bad enough reading about it.

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:37 pm

Bruv;1394979 wrote: Me too, you were warned though.
Yes Bruv, I hold you in no way responsible for my delicate sensibilities.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:07 pm

I read a story today that said 80% of the man's face is gone. So I wonder how long before he holds a press conference.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:14 pm

SnoozeAgain;1395010 wrote: I read a story today that said 80% of the man's face is gone. So I wonder how long before he holds a press conference. Just as soon as the cops finish lying.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:43 pm

Apparently, it is contagious. A Maryland man was arrested for hacking up his room mate with a knife and eating his heart and brain.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:09 pm

There's a New Jersey man that threw his skin and intestines at police. Let me see if I can find that one.Crime

Zombie Alert: Man Throws His Own Intestines At Police

The day after Miami's horrendous face-chewing incident, a New Jersey man's freakout fuels rumors of a zombie apocalypse.

By Melissa Locker | @woolyknickers | May 31, 2012 | 17

Earlier this week, on an equally unsettling note, Miami police officers stand watch near naked Rudy Eugene, second from right, who was shot dead by a police officer when he refused to stop chewing on the face of the naked man next to him, Saturday, May 26, 2012.

And so it begins.

On Saturday, a grisly attack left a Miami, Florida man in critical condition after 75% of his face was gnawed off by a naked man who was shot dead by the police. The vicious incident (which the internet has blamed on an overdose of the new drug bath salts), combined with other shady, not-entirely-substantiated news reports of mysterious illnesses and folks running around Florida in HazMat suits, has conspiracy theorists talking about the inevitable zombie apocalypse.

Adding fuel to the fire is the bizarre case of Wayne Carter, a New Jersey man allegedly cut out his intestines and then threw them at the police on Sunday.

The gruesome scene played out at Carter’s Hackensack, N.J., home, after Police were called to the scene based on reports that the 43-year old man was barricaded in his room with a knife and planning on harming himself, according to the local NBC station. The cops kicked in the door and ordered Carter to drop the knife. Ignoring the officers’ orders, Carter allegedly began stabbing himself in the abdomen, neck and legs instead. Attempts to subdue him with pepper spray did nothing but seem to enrage him. That’s when officers say Carter began throwing pieces of his skin and entrails at the cops. Wisely, the police retreated.

The police called in the Bergen County SWAT team, who were able to eventually subdue Carter and get him to a hospital, where he remains in critical condition. No charges have been filed because of the unusual nature of the case, according to NBC New York. Hackensack police Lt. John Heinemann told reporters that he believes drugs or mental illness may have led to the horrific incident, but those details haven’t been confirmed. After everything else this week, Zombie apocalypse seems just as likely anyway.

Read more: Zombie Alert: Man Throws His Own Intestines At Police | NewsFeed | TIME.com

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Post by **LarsMac** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:48 pm

It's all those vampire, and zombie flicks. They got people's brains all cross-wired.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:16 am

And Spot in his wisdom reckons he could fell these people with straight right hander, and that the police are simply getting their rocks off shooting them for fun.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:23 am

Bruv;1395044 wrote: And Spot in his wisdom reckons he could fell these people with straight right hander, and that the police are simply getting their rocks off shooting them for fun.

In my case, a length of four by two. The police, by contrast, have nightsticks.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:07 am

spot;1394526 wrote: Rather obviously I would render the attacker unconscious with a blow.

spot;1395114 wrote: In my case, a length of four by two. The police, by contrast, have nightsticks.

So already you have escalated the force required, last time "a blow" now it is a length of four by two, and you I would suggest have never had the problem of controlling such a person and you dismiss the police actions who do it all the time so have more insight into the problem.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:18 am

Bruv;1395120 wrote: So already you have escalated the force required, last time "a blow" now it is a length of four by two, and you I would suggest have never had the problem of controlling such a person and you dismiss the police actions who do it all the time so have more insight into the problem.

You invent as you go along. You asked how I'd have dealt with it, a facetious question, to which I facetiously replied that I'd render him unconscious - did I say with a blow? I can't recall. Now you facetiously ask me how I do it, hence the prop. I've escalated nothing. The matter is whether a prone naked man, on drugs or otherwise, can only be stopped by a fully equipped pair of officers by being gunned to death. They carry a tool designed to render him or anyone else, on drugs or otherwise, unconscious with one blow.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:36 am

Bruv;1395120 wrote: So already you have escalated the force required, last time "a blow" now it is a length of four by two, and you I would suggest have never had the problem of controlling such a person and you dismiss the police actions who do it all the time so have more insight into the problem.People eat other people's faces "all the time"? Holy Macaroni!

Though it does seem from news reports that American police are beginning to resort to gun usage more and more frequently that it may appear to be "all the time".

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:09 pm

The CDC gave the official government position today on whether there is an outbreak of zombies behind these events.

"CDC does not know of a virus or condition that would reanimate the dead (or one that would present zombie-like symptoms)," wrote agency spokesman David Daigle in an email to The Huffington Post.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:11 pm

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:25 pm

Wandrin;1395147 wrote: The CDC gave the official government position today on whether there is an outbreak of zombies behind these events.

C'mon man! Where's a link? I really hate zombies.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:41 pm

AnneBoleyn;1395150 wrote: C'mon man! Where's a link? I really hate zombies.

Florida does not have Zombies.

The Incident and others similar to It are linked to the craze of a new Illegal high dubbed ' Bath Salts'.

The active chemical In it Is called Cathinone, which is a schedule one Illegal drug. Also known as “Pump It Powder,” “Purple Incense,” or “Aromatic Sashay,” and It says not for human consumption.

If taken, It can cause vivid hallucinations.

LSU-Shreveport’s Poison Control: “Zombie” Drug Dangerous

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:47 pm

Florida does not have Zombies.
That's what they want you to think. There was also a third case, in CA of zombie dining habits.

The Incident and others similar to It are linked to the craze of a new Illegal high dubbed ' Bath Salts'.

The active chemical In it Is called Cathinone, which is a schedule one Illegal drug. Also known as “Pump It Powder,” “Purple Incense,” or “Aromatic Sashay,” and It says not for human consumption.

If taken, It can cause vivid hallucinations.
Hmmph! Excuses. Enablers. Would take some friggin hallucination to eat someone's.............nevermind, I don't wish to remember!

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:44 pm

AnneBoleyn;1395150 wrote: C'mon man! Where's a link? I really hate zombies.

Zombie Apocalypse: CDC Denies Existence Of Zombies Despite Cannibal Incidents

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:48 pm

Wandrin;1395163 wrote: Zombie Apocalypse: CDC Denies Existence Of Zombies Despite Cannibal Incidents

Do you think they'll do a press conference?

AnneBoleyn · Post by **AnneBoleyn** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:49 pm

Thanks for link.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:08 pm

Bruv;1394525 wrote: I have to ask for the record, what actions would Spot take if confronted by a man in an uncontrollable state gnawing at the face of another man ?

spot;1394526 wrote: Rather obviously I would render the attacker unconscious with a blow.

Bruv;1395044 wrote: And Spot in his wisdom reckons he could fell these people with straight right hander, and that the police are simply getting their rocks off shooting them for fun.

spot;1395114 wrote: In my case, a length of four by two. The police, by contrast, have nightsticks.

Bruv;1395120 wrote: So already you have escalated the force required, last time "a blow" now it is a length of four by two, and you I would suggest have never had the problem of controlling such a person and you dismiss the police actions who do it all the time so have more insight into the problem.

spot;1395134 wrote: You invent as you go along. You asked how I'd have dealt with it, a facetious question, to which I facetiously replied that I'd render him unconscious - did I say with a blow? I can't recall. Now you facetiously ask me how I do it, hence the prop. I've escalated nothing. The matter is whether a prone naked man, on drugs or otherwise, can only be stopped by a fully equipped pair of officers by being gunned to death. They carry a tool designed to render him or anyone else, on drugs or otherwise, unconscious with one blow.

No wonder Oscar gets peed off with some of your replies.

For the casual reader the full story, from direct quotes.

Facetiousness my arse.

You have had the opportunity to view the 'half naked' person apparently woken and attacked by having his face 'eaten' by a drug crazed assailant who 'growled' when approached by an armed police officer demanding he stop only to continue the assault.

The question "What would you do" was serious.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:35 pm

Bruv;1395180 wrote: The question "What would you do" was serious.Rather obviously I would render the attacker unconscious with a blow. From a length of four by two, since I know full well I'm incapable of knocking him out with my fist. What I find inexplicable is that the police shot him, repeatedly, dead.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:54 pm

spot;1395195 wrote: Rather obviously I would render the attacker unconscious with a blow. From a length of four by two, since I know full well I'm incapable of knocking him out with my fist. What I find inexplicable is that the police shot him, repeatedly, dead.

Inexplicable, by someone that has never been in the same situation ?

Tazers have proven not to be affective.

Close contact wrestling with a blood soaked naked body is at most ill advised, given the possible consequences of AIDs contamination.

If there had been four officers present, a scrum of officers might still be not the best option.

Have you considered the officer was in fear of his own life, and that he might have had some experience dealing with drug or drink enraged people on a daily basis ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:09 pm

Bruv;1395206 wrote: Inexplicable, by someone that has never been in the same situation ?

Tazers have proven not to be affective.

Close contact wrestling with a blood soaked naked body is at most ill advised, given the possible consequences of AIDs contamination.

If there had been four officers present, a scrum of officers might still be not the best option.

Have you considered the officer was in fear of his own life, and that he might have had some experience dealing with drug or drink enraged people on a daily basis ?

I think also, the officers may have summed up the very serious condition the victim was In given the loss of blood and getting the victim medical assistance asap was paramount. The victim could easily have died of blood loss or choked to death on his own blood seeing as he was unconcious. They are hardly going to stand around umming and arhing In a situation like that.

Wandrin · Post by **Wandrin** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:26 pm

oscar;1395164 wrote: Do you think they'll do a press conference?

I was surprised that they even responded to the request for a statement. It started me thinking, though. I'd bet that they have received some truly bizarre questions over the years. It would be a real hoot to read some of them.

Post by **spot** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:38 pm

Does anyone know whether US police officers on patrol carry nightsticks? Can we clear that bit up at least? What in the UK we've occasionally referred to as trucheons, effectively. Long, solid, good grip positions, intended among other things for knocking people unconscious.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:46 pm

spot;1395225 wrote: Does anyone know whether US police officers on patrol carry nightsticks? Can we clear that bit up at least? What in the UK we've occasionally referred to as trucheons, effectively. Long, solid, good grip positions, intended among other things for knocking people unconscious.

I found this:

“The first claim seeks compensation for time spent putting on and taking off the police uniform and equipment required for conducting police activity. For convenience of analysis, this claim is considered as it applies to patrol officers. The DPD Operations Manual prescribes the basic uniform to be worn on duty. It consists of a uniform shirt, uniform trousers, trouser belt, socks and authorized footwear. (DPD Op. Manual § 111.02.) A uniformed officer is generally required to carry a metal badge and nameplate, current DPD identification card, a valid Colorado driver’s license, and a standard uniform belt (“duty belt”) containing an authorized holster and firearm, ammunition case and ammunition, handcuffs and handcuff case, department issued tear gas and holder, flashlight, baton ring and belt “keepers.” (Id. § 111.03.) Uniformed officers are not required to wear basic hats or reflective apparel or carry batons, but officers must have those items available at all times. (Id. §§ 111.02(1), 111.02(12) & 111.03(13)). The Operations Manual describes particular situations in which basic hats and reflective apparel must be worn. The wearing of ballistic vests is encouraged, but not required. (Id. § 111.05(2)(e)).

D.Colo.: Time Spent By Police Officers Donning And Doffing Their Uniforms And Equipment Is Compensable, Because It Is Integral And Indispensable To Their Police Duties | Overtime Law Blog | FLSA Decisions

I find that conflicting. Maybe you can find something better Spot.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:52 pm

Here is some grist to your mill...................

Link

Fill yer boots