Three good reasons to despise news outlets

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 6:59 am

I'm prepared to believe factual statements in the serious press (as opposed to filth-rags like the Sun with a history of cynically and deliberately inventing news in order to boost circulation) but I tend to get multiple sources.

I'm interested to see what doesn't make the day's news, that's newsworthy in its own right.

I have not the slightest interest in any opinion piece beyond noting factual statements.

Factual statements made by news outlets are invariably selective.

The proportion of news outlets which act as journals of record, as opposed to power centres, is far lower than it ought to be. They take sides. They attempt to influence events.

The reason for that is, I suggest, the type of owner that news outlets attract. Bad cess to them, that's what I say.

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Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 7:12 am

Factual statements?

In the news?

Really?

Even then, they can make a fact into a political statement.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri May 04, 2012 7:52 am

You know what pisses me off? I only have one outlet in my bathroom.

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:09 am

That must be an American use of the word "outlet", it makes no sense to me. Is each sink or bath or shower not fitted with a drain outlet? Or is "bathroom" a euphemism for a room with only a flush toilet inside, in this instance?

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:11 am

SnoozeAgain;1392897 wrote: You know what pisses me off? I only have one outlet in my bathroom.
But that's not new, is it? This thread is regarding NEW outlets. :yh_shame

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:36 am

I'd like to get a new one though, something like this:

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:41 am

... though not, one hopes, in your "bathroom".

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:55 am

But, of course, in the bathroom.

When we remodeled our house, I told the contractor I wanted lots of outlets in the master bathroom.

When finished, there were four. all neatly in one panel.

The wife wanted a nightlight.

She picked on that all but covered all four outlets.

I ended up adding a 6-port powerstrip, myself.

The contractor got really testy when I deducted the cost from his bill.

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:57 am

Either I'm being toyed with or the Building Regulations in the US are antediluvian.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:58 am

spot;1392903 wrote: ... though not, one hopes, in your "bathroom". Unlike the UK, power outlets In the USA are Installed In bathrooms providing they are fitted with the regulated circuit breaker that cuts power when water comes Into contact....

As some chap In the USA found to his cost when he murdered his wife and tried to fool police that she had been electrocuted In the bathroom with a hair dryer.

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:59 am

In the UK, what Snooze refers to as her "outlet" is called a mains socket.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:00 am

spot;1392910 wrote: In the UK, what Snooze refers to as her "outlet" is called a mains socket. Either..... same thing.... But then they call a tap a facet.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:22 am

Faucet.

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:23 am

oscar;1392911 wrote: Either..... same thing.... But then they call a tap a facet.

Not in my experience they don't.

Mains, as in the voltage it carries. Socket, into which plugs can be slid.

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri May 04, 2012 10:24 am

How about this then?

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 10:29 am

They're not mains sockets, they're shops.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:00 am

spot;1392908 wrote: Either I'm being toyed with or the Building Regulations in the US are antediluvian.
I don't know their attitude toward diluvians, but the voltage is lower than in England.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:01 am

spot;1392922 wrote: They're not mains sockets, they're shops.

They're not sockets at all, they're mainly outlets.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:01 am

spot;1392922 wrote: They're not mains sockets, they're shops. No, they're not shops In the USA, they're Stores.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:07 am

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:07 am

oscar;1392925 wrote: No, they're not shops In the USA, they're Stores.

I expect you mean Batteries, except the Americans no doubt militarized them. C Battery, fire at Will, that sort of thing though what Will had done to annoy them nobody said.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 11:11 am

spot;1392931 wrote: I expect you mean Batteries, except the Americans no doubt militarized them. C Battery, fire at Will, that sort of thing though what Will had done to annoy them nobody said.

Let's ask an American

Shop or Store?

Snooz · Post by **Snooz** » Fri May 04, 2012 12:31 pm

Oscar, you should be ashamed at what you've done to this thread.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:07 pm

:wah:

I shop for batteries at a store. Sometimes I need batteries to access the internet for news when I don't have an outlet handy.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:18 pm

oscar;1392925 wrote: No, they're not shops In the USA, they're Stores.

Nope, Those are outlets. and that is an outlet mall.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:22 pm

Accountable;1392947 wrote: :wah:

I shop for batteries at a store. Sometimes I need batteries to access the internet for news when I don't have an outlet handy. What's a store for batteries called then?

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:34 pm

oscar;1392953 wrote: What's a store for batteries called then?

That's an Arsenal.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 2:54 pm

oscar;1392953 wrote: What's a store for batteries called then?

Glad you asked.

Batteries Plus battery store - All your battery needs for Laptop, camera, cell phone, camcorder, SLA, batteries recycling and much more

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri May 04, 2012 3:06 pm

Have I joined a Monty Python reunion ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 3:09 pm

LarsMac;1392963 wrote: Glad you asked.

Batteries Plus battery store - All your battery needs for Laptop, camera, cell phone, camcorder, SLA, batteries recycling and much more

I can't get the page to load.

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 3:13 pm

Well y'all must call it something else, over there.

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Bruv;1392964 wrote: Have I joined a Monty Python reunion ?

I do hope you're not trying to push the thread off topic, bringing Monty Python into it. What would you think an arsenal is if not a store for batteries? Where else would you store batteries.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri May 04, 2012 3:59 pm

In that drawer in the kitchen with all the other stuff ?

Post by **spot** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:04 pm

You'd not get the limber through the door.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:08 pm

spot;1392977 wrote: You'd not get the limber through the door.

Do they respect doors ? Namby pamby Limbers....

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:32 pm

Why Is It when ever some kid goes on the rampage In the USA, news reports always add.... ' He admitted to raiding his Grand Pappy's Arsenal....

Do all Grand Pappy's have an Arsenal In the USA ?

Post by **LarsMac** » Fri May 04, 2012 6:11 pm

Most of us do. but my grand kiddies ain't gonna raid mine.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:25 pm

Bruv;1392979 wrote: [QUOTE=spot;1392977]You'd not get the limber through the door.Do they respect doors ? Namby pamby Limbers....

I'm not very limber.

Post by **spot** » Sat May 05, 2012 2:33 am

Accountable;1392993 wrote: I'm not very limber.

You'd not fit in the drawer in the kitchen with all the other stuff either. QED.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:13 am

But a newspaper would. Maybe that's their (the news outlets) problem. They're too flexible in their definition of 'news'.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sat May 05, 2012 11:42 am

LarsMac;1392992 wrote: Most of us do. but my grand kiddies ain't gonna raid mine.

I have this Image In my mind of a country full of kindly old men with grey hair with a nucleur bunker under their house full of machine guns...... Rather like Sarah In Terminator 11

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:08 pm

oscar;1393013 wrote: I have this Image In my mind of a country full of kindly old men with grey hair with a nucleur bunker under their house full of machine guns...... Rather like Sarah In Terminator 11

I never realised she was a kindly old man