xara;1389861 wrote:
And is it fair to the Nationalists who are proud of their culture and history to say 'well Englands changed now we're letting anyone who wants to be English to be English and if you don't like it - tough'?
What Particular Nationalists do you have In mind?
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YZGI;1389877 wrote: Can you be English without being able to speak it?
No!
No!
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Bruv;1389860 wrote: Not sure how to answer that........could cause an embarrasment
:wah: was nice weather, now it's raining cats and dogs.
:wah: was nice weather, now it's raining cats and dogs.
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xara;1389861 wrote: Bruv: Thank you for your extensive research 
I enjoyed it, I need to know now......look what you started
The majority view rules and if the majority view is that 'English' is an ethnicity then the sentiment wont hold true will it?
I don't believe the majority think English is an ethnicity, if they do, they are patently wrong.
There may be a vocal few who shout the English are a race apart, but I think the silent majority, with the characteristics of true English are too polite to make a fuss, except at election time, when they quietly make their mark.
I enjoyed it, I need to know now......look what you started
The majority view rules and if the majority view is that 'English' is an ethnicity then the sentiment wont hold true will it?
I don't believe the majority think English is an ethnicity, if they do, they are patently wrong.
There may be a vocal few who shout the English are a race apart, but I think the silent majority, with the characteristics of true English are too polite to make a fuss, except at election time, when they quietly make their mark.
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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Bryn Mawr;1389868 wrote: Firstly you would have to find evidence of what constitutes the majority view. You obviously feel that it is the nationalist view "English is an ethnicity" but I would dispute that - it is an outdated concept that still has adherents but they are in the minority.
I do believe I said IF the majority view is..
Not that it is the majority view.
As far as the evidence goes..
"Public attitudes data shows that Englishness is associated with more ethnic exclusive attitudes than Britishness. Thus the 2001 General Household Survey found that whereas 52% of white respondents described themselves as English, just 11% of black and minority ethnic respondents did so, with 51% of them choosing British to describe themselves."
"The data also shows that those who feel English are more likely to admit to racial prejudice than those who feel British."
Exclusively English? > Article :: IPPR
"we need to question the widely held assumption that Englishness is "for whites only". It is true that polls tend to suggest that the majority of ethnic minorities in England connect with the idea of being British rather than English. And there are good reasons why liberals are sometimes suspicious of the assertion of English pride."
Englishness: the forbidden identity > Article :: IPPR
"The report shows that the proportion of the population that prioritise their English over their British identity (40 per cent) is now twice as large as that which prioritise their British over their English identity (16 per cent). The English are not rejecting Britishness outright and retain a dual sense of identity, but in recent years they are increasingly choosing to emphasise their English over their British identity.
This phenomenon is consistent across England's regions (including London) and across all social and demographic groups – with one exception provided by ethnic minority voters."
UK Constitutional Future: Politicians Ignore The "English Identity" At Their Peril | eGov monitor | The Information Daily
"51 per cent of blacks and Asians describe themselves as British compared with just 29 per cent of whites."
"The report suggests that while Englishness is seen primarily as ethnic term by minority groups, Britain, its flag and institutions are perceived as more neutral".
Ethnic minorities more likely to feel British than white people, says research - News - Evening Standard
I do believe I said IF the majority view is..
Not that it is the majority view.
As far as the evidence goes..
"Public attitudes data shows that Englishness is associated with more ethnic exclusive attitudes than Britishness. Thus the 2001 General Household Survey found that whereas 52% of white respondents described themselves as English, just 11% of black and minority ethnic respondents did so, with 51% of them choosing British to describe themselves."
"The data also shows that those who feel English are more likely to admit to racial prejudice than those who feel British."
Exclusively English? > Article :: IPPR
"we need to question the widely held assumption that Englishness is "for whites only". It is true that polls tend to suggest that the majority of ethnic minorities in England connect with the idea of being British rather than English. And there are good reasons why liberals are sometimes suspicious of the assertion of English pride."
Englishness: the forbidden identity > Article :: IPPR
"The report shows that the proportion of the population that prioritise their English over their British identity (40 per cent) is now twice as large as that which prioritise their British over their English identity (16 per cent). The English are not rejecting Britishness outright and retain a dual sense of identity, but in recent years they are increasingly choosing to emphasise their English over their British identity.
This phenomenon is consistent across England's regions (including London) and across all social and demographic groups – with one exception provided by ethnic minority voters."
UK Constitutional Future: Politicians Ignore The "English Identity" At Their Peril | eGov monitor | The Information Daily
"51 per cent of blacks and Asians describe themselves as British compared with just 29 per cent of whites."
"The report suggests that while Englishness is seen primarily as ethnic term by minority groups, Britain, its flag and institutions are perceived as more neutral".
Ethnic minorities more likely to feel British than white people, says research - News - Evening Standard
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oscar;1389880 wrote: What Particular Nationalists do you have In mind?
The White, shiny, happy, non-racist kind who have been on these shores for hundreds of years
The White, shiny, happy, non-racist kind who have been on these shores for hundreds of years
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xara;1389898 wrote: I do believe I said IF the majority view is..
Not that it is the majority view.
As far as the evidence goes..
"Public attitudes data shows that Englishness is associated with more ethnic exclusive attitudes than Britishness. Thus the 2001 General Household Survey found that whereas 52% of white respondents described themselves as English, just 11% of black and minority ethnic respondents did so, with 51% of them choosing British to describe themselves."
"The data also shows that those who feel English are more likely to admit to racial prejudice than those who feel British."
Exclusively English? > Article :: IPPR
"we need to question the widely held assumption that Englishness is "for whites only". It is true that polls tend to suggest that the majority of ethnic minorities in England connect with the idea of being British rather than English. And there are good reasons why liberals are sometimes suspicious of the assertion of English pride."
Englishness: the forbidden identity > Article :: IPPR
"The report shows that the proportion of the population that prioritise their English over their British identity (40 per cent) is now twice as large as that which prioritise their British over their English identity (16 per cent). The English are not rejecting Britishness outright and retain a dual sense of identity, but in recent years they are increasingly choosing to emphasise their English over their British identity.
This phenomenon is consistent across England's regions (including London) and across all social and demographic groups – with one exception provided by ethnic minority voters."
UK Constitutional Future: Politicians Ignore The "English Identity" At Their Peril | eGov monitor | The Information Daily
"51 per cent of blacks and Asians describe themselves as British compared with just 29 per cent of whites."
"The report suggests that while Englishness is seen primarily as ethnic term by minority groups, Britain, its flag and institutions are perceived as more neutral".
Ethnic minorities more likely to feel British than white people, says research - News - Evening Standard
All the way through your posts have held the implicit assumption that the majority view IS. Never have you suggested if the majority view is that all people living in England are English, always that the majority view is Englishness is an ethnicity. The assumption must therefore be that you see this as being the majority view.
The evidence you produce does not address the subject at hand. Whereas the question regarded the proposition that Englisness is an ethnicity the evidence tries to show where Britishness prevails over Englishness, a different question and a matter of semantic when it comes to newcomers - do they come to England or do they come to Great Britain / the UK, whichever it is they have still accepted this country as their home.
What you need is evidence of the split between those who believe that "English" is an ethnicity against those who believe that an immigrant can naturalise in their new home which was the subject of the question. It would also be interesting to see the split between those immigrants and descendants of immigrants who perceive themselves to be naturalised against those who see themselves as ex-pat natives of their place of origin.
Not that it is the majority view.
As far as the evidence goes..
"Public attitudes data shows that Englishness is associated with more ethnic exclusive attitudes than Britishness. Thus the 2001 General Household Survey found that whereas 52% of white respondents described themselves as English, just 11% of black and minority ethnic respondents did so, with 51% of them choosing British to describe themselves."
"The data also shows that those who feel English are more likely to admit to racial prejudice than those who feel British."
Exclusively English? > Article :: IPPR
"we need to question the widely held assumption that Englishness is "for whites only". It is true that polls tend to suggest that the majority of ethnic minorities in England connect with the idea of being British rather than English. And there are good reasons why liberals are sometimes suspicious of the assertion of English pride."
Englishness: the forbidden identity > Article :: IPPR
"The report shows that the proportion of the population that prioritise their English over their British identity (40 per cent) is now twice as large as that which prioritise their British over their English identity (16 per cent). The English are not rejecting Britishness outright and retain a dual sense of identity, but in recent years they are increasingly choosing to emphasise their English over their British identity.
This phenomenon is consistent across England's regions (including London) and across all social and demographic groups – with one exception provided by ethnic minority voters."
UK Constitutional Future: Politicians Ignore The "English Identity" At Their Peril | eGov monitor | The Information Daily
"51 per cent of blacks and Asians describe themselves as British compared with just 29 per cent of whites."
"The report suggests that while Englishness is seen primarily as ethnic term by minority groups, Britain, its flag and institutions are perceived as more neutral".
Ethnic minorities more likely to feel British than white people, says research - News - Evening Standard
All the way through your posts have held the implicit assumption that the majority view IS. Never have you suggested if the majority view is that all people living in England are English, always that the majority view is Englishness is an ethnicity. The assumption must therefore be that you see this as being the majority view.
The evidence you produce does not address the subject at hand. Whereas the question regarded the proposition that Englisness is an ethnicity the evidence tries to show where Britishness prevails over Englishness, a different question and a matter of semantic when it comes to newcomers - do they come to England or do they come to Great Britain / the UK, whichever it is they have still accepted this country as their home.
What you need is evidence of the split between those who believe that "English" is an ethnicity against those who believe that an immigrant can naturalise in their new home which was the subject of the question. It would also be interesting to see the split between those immigrants and descendants of immigrants who perceive themselves to be naturalised against those who see themselves as ex-pat natives of their place of origin.
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xara;1389900 wrote: The White, shiny, happy, non-racist kind who have been on these shores for hundreds of years
But have they been on these shores for 100's of years? Most can be traced back to European shores.
But have they been on these shores for 100's of years? Most can be traced back to European shores.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
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xara;1389900 wrote: The White, shiny, happy, non-racist kind who have been on these shores for hundreds of years
What makes them Nationalists?
PS. Please not the capitol N - Nationalist is a specific term with an understood definition.
What makes them Nationalists?
PS. Please not the capitol N - Nationalist is a specific term with an understood definition.
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Bryn Mawr;1389921 wrote: All the way through your posts have held the implicit assumption that the majority view IS. Never have you suggested if the majority view is that all people living in England are English, always that the majority view is Englishness is an ethnicity. The assumption must therefore be that you see this as being the majority view.
The evidence you produce does not address the subject at hand. Whereas the question regarded the proposition that Englisness is an ethnicity the evidence tries to show where Britishness prevails over Englishness, a different question and a matter of semantic when it comes to newcomers - do they come to England or do they come to Great Britain / the UK, whichever it is they have still accepted this country as their home.
What you need is evidence of the split between those who believe that "English" is an ethnicity against those who believe that an immigrant can naturalise in their new home which was the subject of the question. It would also be interesting to see the split between those immigrants and descendants of immigrants who perceive themselves to be naturalised against those who see themselves as ex-pat natives of their place of origin.
In that specific response to Bruv, I meant the majority of White people rather than the majority of all people. Which majority do you mean, White or all people?
The reports I found showed that ethnic groups see English more as an ethnicity and therefore identify with being British not English. I couldn't find anything on if White people think English is an ethnicity or if ethnic groups are English or British.
The evidence you produce does not address the subject at hand. Whereas the question regarded the proposition that Englisness is an ethnicity the evidence tries to show where Britishness prevails over Englishness, a different question and a matter of semantic when it comes to newcomers - do they come to England or do they come to Great Britain / the UK, whichever it is they have still accepted this country as their home.
What you need is evidence of the split between those who believe that "English" is an ethnicity against those who believe that an immigrant can naturalise in their new home which was the subject of the question. It would also be interesting to see the split between those immigrants and descendants of immigrants who perceive themselves to be naturalised against those who see themselves as ex-pat natives of their place of origin.
In that specific response to Bruv, I meant the majority of White people rather than the majority of all people. Which majority do you mean, White or all people?
The reports I found showed that ethnic groups see English more as an ethnicity and therefore identify with being British not English. I couldn't find anything on if White people think English is an ethnicity or if ethnic groups are English or British.
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Bryn Mawr;1389925 wrote: What makes them Nationalists?
PS. Please not the capitol N - Nationalist is a specific term with an understood definition.
Okay small n nationalist.
PS. Please not the capitol N - Nationalist is a specific term with an understood definition.
Okay small n nationalist.
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xara;1389939 wrote: In that specific response to Bruv, I meant the majority of White people rather than the majority of all people. Which majority do you mean, White or all people?
The reports I found showed that ethnic groups see English more as an ethnicity and therefore identify with being British not English. I couldn't find anything on if White people think English is an ethnicity or if ethnic groups are English or British.
In the first split, both would be of interest and the difference between the two even more so.
I'd see it as more a combination of the perception that they came to the UK, not specifically to England and the link between the insistence on being English and the Nationalist parties.
The reports I found showed that ethnic groups see English more as an ethnicity and therefore identify with being British not English. I couldn't find anything on if White people think English is an ethnicity or if ethnic groups are English or British.
In the first split, both would be of interest and the difference between the two even more so.
I'd see it as more a combination of the perception that they came to the UK, not specifically to England and the link between the insistence on being English and the Nationalist parties.
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xara;1389941 wrote: Okay small n nationalist.
I think you'll find that was not what Oscar had in mind :wah:
I think you'll find that was not what Oscar had in mind :wah:
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Bryn Mawr;1389948 wrote: I think you'll find that was not what Oscar had in mind :wah:
??
I meant..
nationalist
Origin
noun
1.
a person devoted to nationalism.
nationalism
noun
1.
national spirit or aspirations.
2.
devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism.
Why, what do you mean?
??
I meant..
nationalist
Origin
noun
1.
a person devoted to nationalism.
nationalism
noun
1.
national spirit or aspirations.
2.
devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism.
Why, what do you mean?
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Oh you mean which organisation? xD
My bad.
Trying to write my thesis whilst replying to threads obviously isn't working
My bad.
Trying to write my thesis whilst replying to threads obviously isn't working
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xara;1389951 wrote: Oh you mean which organisation? xD
My bad.
Trying to write my thesis whilst replying to threads obviously isn't working
What are you studying?
My bad.
Trying to write my thesis whilst replying to threads obviously isn't working
What are you studying?
Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answers...Rainer Maria Rilke
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Psychology.
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xara;1389955 wrote: Psychology.
Ah, I was wrong, I thought you would say sociology
Ah, I was wrong, I thought you would say sociology
Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answers...Rainer Maria Rilke
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theia;1389957 wrote: Ah, I was wrong, I thought you would say sociology
Oh no. I hate people.
Oh no. I hate people.
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xara;1389958 wrote: Oh no. I hate people.
Well..................I like you :-3
Haven't a clue why though.......
Well..................I like you :-3
Haven't a clue why though.......
I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth
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xara;1389958 wrote: Oh no. I hate people.
so you studied psychology, is that not people based?
Unless of course you are studying animal psychology?
so you studied psychology, is that not people based?
Unless of course you are studying animal psychology?
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Bruv;1389962 wrote: Well..................I like you :-3
Haven't a clue why though.......
Apparently not for my inquisitive nature :p
Haven't a clue why though.......
Apparently not for my inquisitive nature :p
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Betty Boop;1389963 wrote: so you studied psychology, is that not people based?
Unless of course you are studying animal psychology?
I was joking about hating people. Sorry. My humour doesn't translate well.
Unless of course you are studying animal psychology?
I was joking about hating people. Sorry. My humour doesn't translate well.
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xara;1389965 wrote: I was joking about hating people. Sorry. My humour doesn't translate well.
Thank god for that :wah: :sneaky::wah:;) these help with translation.
Thank god for that :wah: :sneaky::wah:;) these help with translation.
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Most Black people here in the States are not English.
Though one of my friends claims to be.
He was born in Kent just after WWII.
His Mother was from Kenya, and his father was a negro pilot from the US.
He grew up in Folkstone.
He sounds every bit as English as anyone else I've met from the region.
Though one of my friends claims to be.
He was born in Kent just after WWII.
His Mother was from Kenya, and his father was a negro pilot from the US.
He grew up in Folkstone.
He sounds every bit as English as anyone else I've met from the region.
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Most Black people here in the States are not English.
'Course not. They're Americans!
'Course not. They're Americans!
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Interestingly, I've heard people of any colour can go to America and Americans will call them English - because of the English accent and because they are from England. The English/British thing doesn't occur to them.
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xara;1390007 wrote: Interestingly, I've heard people of any colour can go to America and Americans will call them English - because of the English accent and because they are from England. The English/British thing doesn't occur to them.
Kinda like the Alabama, Texas thing doesn't occur to you and yourins.
Kinda like the Alabama, Texas thing doesn't occur to you and yourins.
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YZGI;1390010 wrote: Kinda like the Alabama, Texas thing doesn't occur to you and yourins.
yourins?
I try to Google it but it came up with.. 'does your ins. cover viagra? How much? How many pills?'
yourins?
I try to Google it but it came up with.. 'does your ins. cover viagra? How much? How many pills?'
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xara;1390012 wrote: yourins?
I try to Google it but it came up with.. 'does your ins. cover viagra? How much? How many pills?'
Kinda southern talk for you and others. LOL
I try to Google it but it came up with.. 'does your ins. cover viagra? How much? How many pills?'
Kinda southern talk for you and others. LOL
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YZGI;1390015 wrote: Kinda southern talk for you and others. LOL
Yeaaa..... I'm sure it has nothing to do with Viagra
Yeaaa..... I'm sure it has nothing to do with Viagra
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xara;1390007 wrote: Interestingly, I've heard people of any colour can go to America and Americans will call them English - because of the English accent and because they are from England. The English/British thing doesn't occur to them.
That's because the designation of American is easier to achieve because this is an immigrant nation. Speaking English isn't a prerequisite. I guess some assume England would have the same attitude, though I definitely understand why some might find it difficult.
That's because the designation of American is easier to achieve because this is an immigrant nation. Speaking English isn't a prerequisite. I guess some assume England would have the same attitude, though I definitely understand why some might find it difficult.
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xara;1390007 wrote: Interestingly, I've heard people of any colour can go to America and Americans will call them English - because of the English accent and because they are from England. The English/British thing doesn't occur to them.
Most of the Brits I talk to complain that that Americans are always asking if they are Australian.
Most of the Brits I talk to complain that that Americans are always asking if they are Australian.
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AnneBoleyn;1390020 wrote: That's because the designation of American is easier to achieve because this is an immigrant nation. Speaking English isn't a prerequisite. I guess some assume England would have the same attitude, though I definitely understand why some might find it difficult.
You can't be ethnically American can you?
You can't be ethnically American can you?
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LarsMac;1390027 wrote: Most of the Brits I talk to complain that that Americans are always asking if they are Australian.
The accents are totally different! When I lived in England I got so good at accents, I was able to pinpoint regional accents very well. I was quite proud of myself.
The accents are totally different! When I lived in England I got so good at accents, I was able to pinpoint regional accents very well. I was quite proud of myself.
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LarsMac;1390027 wrote: Most of the Brits I talk to complain that that Americans are always asking if they are Australian.
Which British accent do they have?
I cannot think of any that sound anything like Australian
Which British accent do they have?
I cannot think of any that sound anything like Australian
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LarsMac;1390027 wrote: Most of the Brits I talk to complain that that Americans are always asking if they are Australian.
To the untrained Yank Ear----Aussies, Kiwi's, Brits and So. Africans all sound the same.
To the untrained Yank Ear----Aussies, Kiwi's, Brits and So. Africans all sound the same.
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xara;1390029 wrote: You can't be ethnically American can you?
Are you discounting our native population? My husband's people were native to both Canada & the U.S., the originals.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
Are you discounting our native population? My husband's people were native to both Canada & the U.S., the originals.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
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AnneBoleyn;1390035 wrote: Are you discounting our native population? My husband's people were native to both Canada & the U.S., the originals.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
Yes discounting them.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
Yes discounting them.
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I'm going to shame myself but I sometimes confuse Irish and Scottish accents.
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xara;1390033 wrote: Which British accent do they have?
I cannot think of any that sound anything like Australian
Nor can I.
They have been from Yorkshire, Manchester, Knottingham, Hamps, Bucks, Kent, Dover, London, Scotland, and even Eire.
All mistaken for Aussies but my countrymen.
I am embarrassed.
Lon;1390034 wrote: To the untrained Yank Ear----Aussies, Kiwi's, Brits and So. Africans all sound the same.
I can tell the difference between most English regions, and even some Scottish regions. Irish are a challenge.
Also can tell many Canadian regions.
I can even tell the difference between Aussies and Kiwis, usually.
Having traveled most of my life, I reckon picking out regional accents and dialects seems to come natural to me.
I cannot think of any that sound anything like Australian
Nor can I.
They have been from Yorkshire, Manchester, Knottingham, Hamps, Bucks, Kent, Dover, London, Scotland, and even Eire.
All mistaken for Aussies but my countrymen.
I am embarrassed.
Lon;1390034 wrote: To the untrained Yank Ear----Aussies, Kiwi's, Brits and So. Africans all sound the same.
I can tell the difference between most English regions, and even some Scottish regions. Irish are a challenge.
Also can tell many Canadian regions.
I can even tell the difference between Aussies and Kiwis, usually.
Having traveled most of my life, I reckon picking out regional accents and dialects seems to come natural to me.
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xara;1390039 wrote: Yes discounting them.
Are you making the suggestion that there are no peoples' native to the American Continents? Are you implying that the people we call native actually crossed the Bering Strait & thus have no bering (sic) to this discussion?
Are you making the suggestion that there are no peoples' native to the American Continents? Are you implying that the people we call native actually crossed the Bering Strait & thus have no bering (sic) to this discussion?
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AnneBoleyn;1390046 wrote: Are you making the suggestion that there are no peoples' native to the American Continents? Are you implying that the people we call native actually crossed the Bering Strait & thus have no bering (sic) to this discussion?
I'm saying Native Americans are ethnically American so apart from them no one else is, right?
I'm saying Native Americans are ethnically American so apart from them no one else is, right?
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Right.
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xara;1390029 wrote: You can't be ethnically American can you?
AnneBoleyn;1390035 wrote: Are you discounting our native population? My husband's people were native to both Canada & the U.S., the originals.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
xara;1390039 wrote: Yes discounting them.
I think of myself as Ethnically American.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
AnneBoleyn;1390035 wrote: Are you discounting our native population? My husband's people were native to both Canada & the U.S., the originals.
When I was growing up, the WASPS considered themselves the ethnic Americans but they were wrong. Today they are called Republicans.
xara;1390039 wrote: Yes discounting them.
I think of myself as Ethnically American.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
The home of the soul is the Open Road.
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LarsMac;1390057 wrote: I think of myself as Ethnically American.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
Only if they're wearing a sombrero.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
Only if they're wearing a sombrero.
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LarsMac;1390057 wrote: I think of myself as Ethnically American.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
You can hear them before you see them and then it's the white tennis shoes that really give them away.
My ancestors have been on this continent for many generations.
We have separated from most of the Eurasian and African gene stocks by the combinations that have taken place over the last few centuries.
Can you not spot an American when you see one, no matter where in the world they are?
You can hear them before you see them and then it's the white tennis shoes that really give them away.