Could this be the wild cat of Woodchester? Beast hunted after deer is devoured in Cotswolds | Mail Online
I have always believed that Panthers have been living wild In the British countryside.
When wild animals had to be licensed In this country, many believe that private owners turned them loose.
This Is very exciting because for the first time In history, scientists have got to the deer killed quick enough to collect DNA from the saliva of the animal that killed It.
All the signs of the kill Indicate a large cat.
The results of the DNA tests will be expected In about a weeks time. What worries me, Is, what next ?
If the British are true to form, they won't be able to leave It alone. Some moron will just have to hunt It down and kill It.
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Their "large black animal" looks exactly like a house cat to me. :wah:
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SnoozeAgain;1381051 wrote:
Their "large black animal" looks exactly like a house cat to me. :wah:
I agree with you but the pic may not be the big cat who killed the deer.
There's been a lot of sightings over the years and I believe there are more than one out there.
Can't wait for the DNA to come back.
Their "large black animal" looks exactly like a house cat to me. :wah:
I agree with you but the pic may not be the big cat who killed the deer.
There's been a lot of sightings over the years and I believe there are more than one out there.
Can't wait for the DNA to come back.
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Yeah, I got the impression they just threw a photo up.
When you say panther, do you mean like an American mountain lion?
When you say panther, do you mean like an American mountain lion?
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SnoozeAgain;1381056 wrote: Yeah, I got the impression they just threw a photo up.
When you say panther, do you mean like an American mountain lion?
Yes, or a variant....Black Jaguar or Black Leopard.
When you say panther, do you mean like an American mountain lion?
Yes, or a variant....Black Jaguar or Black Leopard.
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The Beast of Bodmin Moor moving upcountry?
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Bryn Mawr;1381563 wrote: The Beast of Bodmin Moor moving upcountry?
I've always believed there are more than one. Panthers tend to have a territory of 100 square miles so It Is likely the Bodmin Beast has mated and those new cubs moved on to form a new territory.
There has been a second deer killed this week again with all the tell tale signs of a big cat.
Big cat in Cotswolds hunting deer? Wild beast sighted in Woodchester, second deer savaged | Mail Online
I've always believed there are more than one. Panthers tend to have a territory of 100 square miles so It Is likely the Bodmin Beast has mated and those new cubs moved on to form a new territory.
There has been a second deer killed this week again with all the tell tale signs of a big cat.
Big cat in Cotswolds hunting deer? Wild beast sighted in Woodchester, second deer savaged | Mail Online
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For me, This Is just getting more and more exciting....
Last week a second deer was showing all the signs of a big cat killing and now this....
Three wallabies found savaged to death by big cat after mystery predator stalking the Cotswolds strikes again | Mail Online
Three Wallaby's have been killed In the same fashion.
There were suggestions that the deer had been killed by Foxes. I find this unlikely. I do not believe Fox can out run and bring down deer and Wallaby's.
Can't wait for those DNA tests.
Last week a second deer was showing all the signs of a big cat killing and now this....
Three wallabies found savaged to death by big cat after mystery predator stalking the Cotswolds strikes again | Mail Online
Three Wallaby's have been killed In the same fashion.
There were suggestions that the deer had been killed by Foxes. I find this unlikely. I do not believe Fox can out run and bring down deer and Wallaby's.
Can't wait for those DNA tests.
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Cougar's odyssey points to migratory trend - Technology & science - Science - LiveScience - msnbc.com
Similar sightings are often reported here on the east coast but until they have an actual specimen, the officials are leery to acknowledge their presence. They used to say the same in Virginia about coyotes and now there are so many that some counties have a bounty on them because of the destruction to livestock.
I'm anxious to hear what the outcome is!
Similar sightings are often reported here on the east coast but until they have an actual specimen, the officials are leery to acknowledge their presence. They used to say the same in Virginia about coyotes and now there are so many that some counties have a bounty on them because of the destruction to livestock.
I'm anxious to hear what the outcome is!
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tabby;1382359 wrote: Cougar's odyssey points to migratory trend - Technology & science - Science - LiveScience - msnbc.com
Similar sightings are often reported here on the east coast but until they have an actual specimen, the officials are leery to acknowledge their presence. They used to say the same in Virginia about coyotes and now there are so many that some counties have a bounty on them because of the destruction to livestock.
I'm anxious to hear what the outcome is! That's Interesting about the Cougar Tabby.
What makes the possibility of big cats In England stranger Is that as an Island, we are protected from migration of that sort. Throughout history, big cats have moved territory when threatened or their habitat dies out. The best example of this Is the Tigers of India that have come under Increasing threat of dwindling numbers. Over the past few years, due to logging and the destruction of their habitat, they have been sighted at higher and higher altitudes Including mountainous area's Tigers have never previously occupied In India's northeast sections. This Is a perfect example of how big cats will migrate and move to safer territory then threatened and how far they will go to do this.
As England Is an Island, the question has always been... 'Do we have big cats roaming In the wild or not? They can not have migrated here because we are an Island. They arrived here some how and I go along with those who believe that many private zoo's and collectors had no choice but to let them loose when The Dangerous Wild Animals Act was Introduced in the UK in 1976.
Given the example of Indian Tigers migrating and more Importantly, adapting to living In previously unoccupied mountainous terrain and surviving at very high altitudes, It Is perfectly feasable that any Big cats In England turned loose when the law changed here, not only adapted to the English Countryside but also bred and survived.
They would be able to survive perfectly In area's such as this recent case where there Is an abundance of deer, rabbit, even wallaby's.
I shall post as soon as the DNA results are confirmed.
Similar sightings are often reported here on the east coast but until they have an actual specimen, the officials are leery to acknowledge their presence. They used to say the same in Virginia about coyotes and now there are so many that some counties have a bounty on them because of the destruction to livestock.
I'm anxious to hear what the outcome is! That's Interesting about the Cougar Tabby.
What makes the possibility of big cats In England stranger Is that as an Island, we are protected from migration of that sort. Throughout history, big cats have moved territory when threatened or their habitat dies out. The best example of this Is the Tigers of India that have come under Increasing threat of dwindling numbers. Over the past few years, due to logging and the destruction of their habitat, they have been sighted at higher and higher altitudes Including mountainous area's Tigers have never previously occupied In India's northeast sections. This Is a perfect example of how big cats will migrate and move to safer territory then threatened and how far they will go to do this.
As England Is an Island, the question has always been... 'Do we have big cats roaming In the wild or not? They can not have migrated here because we are an Island. They arrived here some how and I go along with those who believe that many private zoo's and collectors had no choice but to let them loose when The Dangerous Wild Animals Act was Introduced in the UK in 1976.
Given the example of Indian Tigers migrating and more Importantly, adapting to living In previously unoccupied mountainous terrain and surviving at very high altitudes, It Is perfectly feasable that any Big cats In England turned loose when the law changed here, not only adapted to the English Countryside but also bred and survived.
They would be able to survive perfectly In area's such as this recent case where there Is an abundance of deer, rabbit, even wallaby's.
I shall post as soon as the DNA results are confirmed.
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The DNA of saliva results are back..................
FOX
I have to say that I do not believe this for one moment and I suspect a cover up to avoid the nut jobs taking up arms.
There are two subjects that I believe I am an authority on, National Hunt Horse-racing and the species 'Vulpes Vulpes'. Both are through decades of experience and research.
1) I do not believe any Fox has the strength to bring down a deer or a wallaby.
2 ) A Fox can not out-run a domesticated cat let alone a spring heeled deer.
3 ) Fox do not hunt In packs. They are solitary hunters. Where a pack of wolves use a pincer movement to close In on prey, the Fox hunts alone.
4 ) It Is the natural Instinct of Fox to cache food. Every night I feed around 10 - 16 Foxes. They eat a small amount In front of me, the rest they gather and take back to their earth. This Instinct Is as Inbuilt as a bird's desire to fly south In winter. If a Fox killed those deer, there would be absolutely nothing left. Every scrap of bone and carcass would have been removed.
5 ) At this time of year, most vixens will have very young cubs. If any member of a Fox family had killed the deer, they would have young to feed and nothing would be left. Fox do not leave anything behind.
FOX
I have to say that I do not believe this for one moment and I suspect a cover up to avoid the nut jobs taking up arms.
There are two subjects that I believe I am an authority on, National Hunt Horse-racing and the species 'Vulpes Vulpes'. Both are through decades of experience and research.
1) I do not believe any Fox has the strength to bring down a deer or a wallaby.
2 ) A Fox can not out-run a domesticated cat let alone a spring heeled deer.
3 ) Fox do not hunt In packs. They are solitary hunters. Where a pack of wolves use a pincer movement to close In on prey, the Fox hunts alone.
4 ) It Is the natural Instinct of Fox to cache food. Every night I feed around 10 - 16 Foxes. They eat a small amount In front of me, the rest they gather and take back to their earth. This Instinct Is as Inbuilt as a bird's desire to fly south In winter. If a Fox killed those deer, there would be absolutely nothing left. Every scrap of bone and carcass would have been removed.
5 ) At this time of year, most vixens will have very young cubs. If any member of a Fox family had killed the deer, they would have young to feed and nothing would be left. Fox do not leave anything behind.
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Don't you hate it when an official verdict leaves you scratching your head and with additional questions unanswered? :-2
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tabby;1383351 wrote: Don't you hate it when an official verdict leaves you scratching your head and with additional questions unanswered? :-2
I am not one who believes In conspiricies Tabby but I really believe this Is a cover up. The ramifications of disclosing that big cats were living In the wilds of England would be enormous.
There Is also a possibility that they got no DNA from the big cat and Fox could have moved In on the carcass after the cat was finished leaving DNA.
I am not one who believes In conspiricies Tabby but I really believe this Is a cover up. The ramifications of disclosing that big cats were living In the wilds of England would be enormous.
There Is also a possibility that they got no DNA from the big cat and Fox could have moved In on the carcass after the cat was finished leaving DNA.
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So............ today, after a lady has got this on film, the experts are stating that this IS a big cat.
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Wildcat of Woodchester video? Six-foot 'leopard' caught on camera | Mail Online
Why would these animals hide or be fearful of humans? In this country, they would have no predators and no nut jobs wandering around shooting ( much ).
I'm still with the theory that the Fox left DNA AFTER the big cat had finished his deer and wallaby.
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Wildcat of Woodchester video? Six-foot 'leopard' caught on camera | Mail Online
Why would these animals hide or be fearful of humans? In this country, they would have no predators and no nut jobs wandering around shooting ( much ).
I'm still with the theory that the Fox left DNA AFTER the big cat had finished his deer and wallaby.
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