The Bible shifted some Gears in my mind.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:39 pm

In Isaiah 45: 23 God swore a Holy Vow to himself that every human will be converted. Why would God make this Holy Vow, if he was going to judge any humans to death or suffering eternally? Look at that vow and keep it in mind as we examine more of God.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:15 am

In John 3:17, Jesus speaking:" For God didnot send the Son into the world to Judge it, but that the world should be saved through him." Now this is very important comming from Jesus; he was sent to save this world FROM Judgement! From who's Judgement? From Gods Judgement against sin!

And lets look into that.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:09 am

Mickiel;1373309 wrote: In John 3:17, Jesus speaking:" For God didnot send the Son into the world to Judge it, but that the world should be saved through him." Now this is very important comming from Jesus; he was sent to save this world FROM Judgement! From who's Judgement? From Gods Judgement against sin!

And lets look into that.

Many religions are literally condemning humanity and using Gods judgement to proudly do that; they do not understand Gods judgement. And really don't understand God. They think God is holding a great hammer and is waiting to crush unbelievers with it; thats WHY they are beating unbelievers over the head now with their doctrines.

When are you going to seriously take a look at God in scripture, and stop letting your minister do it for you? What makes you think God is not powerful enough to complettely save unbelieving sinners? What makes you think his Love is not great enough to over ride all things which you use to condemn someone or condemn yourself?

I mean were talking about GOD! Why do you think his judgement is a condemning thing?

And lets look at those.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:25 am

2 Pet. 3:9;" The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." Now God has never willed any human to be condemned. He does not want that; he does not wish it, and he does not will it.

His expressed desire is for all humans to come to repentance. Now we must judge ourselves as to how much God gets what he desires.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:00 pm

Mickiel;1373852 wrote: 2 Pet. 3:9;" The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." Now God has never willed any human to be condemned. He does not want that; he does not wish it, and he does not will it.

His expressed desire is for all humans to come to repentance. Now we must judge ourselves as to how much God gets what he desires.

The very judgement of God is based on his desires; again Job 23:13;" God is unique and who can turn him? What his soul DESIRES that he DOES!" Simple enough; what does God desire? 1 Tim. 2:4" God desires that ALL humans be saved and to come into the Knowledge of the Truth."

How then can certain religions of this world teach that God cannot achieve his desires? The bible teachs that God gets what he desires! He DOES what he desires! So why would the judgement of God go against his desires? Well religion would answer " the free will of humans." These religions actually have been duped into believing that God would leave an important thing like eternal life, in the hands of the individual humans will.

And lets look into that deep deception.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:18 pm

Why would the Great God, holding all power, leave Salvation up to humans, instead of himself? For the sake of free will? You mean to tell me that God would allow the systematic self destruction of the vast majority of created humans, in order for them to decide what is right to do? Does that really make sense to you? That God would allow people to self destruct , all over a free will point of view?

You need to really think about that. Thats like saying that Jesus death and the eternal benefits of it, are only being applied to those who " Accept it." If that is the case, then free will is ripping off humanity at untold rates, because of ignorance mainly. You think God will judge humans based on their ignorance, instead of the sacrifice of his Son?

We need to talk about that!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:17 am

Mickiel;1373921 wrote: Why would the Great God, holding all power, leave Salvation up to humans, instead of himself? For the sake of free will? You mean to tell me that God would allow the systematic self destruction of the vast majority of created humans, in order for them to decide what is right to do? Does that really make sense to you? That God would allow people to self destruct , all over a free will point of view?

You need to really think about that. Thats like saying that Jesus death and the eternal benefits of it, are only being applied to those who " Accept it." If that is the case, then free will is ripping off humanity at untold rates, because of ignorance mainly. You think God will judge humans based on their ignorance, instead of the sacrifice of his Son?

We need to talk about that!

Why would God place the responsibility for Salvation in human hands; this is not a contest or a survival of the fittest, what kind of being do you think God is? God has the power to subject ALL things to himself, you think he would rather that human will and choice be that power of subjection?.Read Phil. 3:21, Christ has the power to subject all humans to his father;

Why do you think hes not going to use it?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:17 pm

The Love of God IS the basics of human salvation, and no believer in God can claim that God does not Love unbelievers. No believer in God can " Judge unbelievers", although they do. No believer in God has died for unbelievers, except Christ. And no believer in God can belittle the effects of Christ sacrifice on unbelievers future with God, although they try.

So really its Gods Love that determines Salvation, not how believers in God decide to treat unbelievers.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:04 am

The power of God to save humanity is being questioned everyday by christianity, and limited by them. They are the ones who teach that salvation is limited. They are the ones who are trying to shut off the Kingdom from men. They are the " Modernday Pharisees." In Matt. 23:13 Jesus pronouces " Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you " Shut off the Kingdom from men." Which means to limit salvation by your doctrines. To cut off sinners, for reason of their sin. To cut off unbelievers, for reason of their unbelief. To judge sinners, when only God can.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:48 pm

" Shutting off the Kingdom from men" means many things; it means ANY way that your belief would reduce the number of humans who would inherit salvation. If in your belief, unbelievers are not welcome in the Kingdom, then your belief is shutting off the Kingdom from men. If homosexuals are not welcome in your belief, then your shutting off the Kingdom from men. Whatever reason your belief is using to cut off people from God, you need to consider cutting yourself off from that belief.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:09 am

When God judges unbelievers, his judgement is " The same as when he judges believers", there is no change in his approach or his Love.

And I want to get into that misconception.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:05 pm

Now Jesus does not judge humanity; John 3:17 " For God didnot send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the World should be saved through him." God sent Jesus here to save " The World"; not just believers, but unbelievers as well. Jesus mission and destiny was not to judge us, but to save ALL of us!

The question then; Did he fulfill his God ordained mission? And the judgement of humanity was NOT that mission. Neither is it the mission of ANY follower of Christ.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:17 pm

In 1 Tim. 2:6 Jesus death is called " A Ransom for All." Why would he die for everyone, pay the penalty for all sins, only for God to turn around and pronounce humans quilty of those sins, and judge them to some hell? Thats not Ransom! Ransom means the payment has been met and the person is " Released!" It means they are Redeemed from punishment!

What in the world of common sense and simple reading has happened to this wonderful gospel message? What are these preachers reading? The whole world has been REDEEMED!

And it seems no one knows it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:38 am

Back then to Revelations 20:15;" And if anyones name was not found in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Many of the previous scriptures I have discussed obviously show that Gods will is life for all of humanity. Trying to show both the heart and intent of God himself, and of Christ- concerning the future of humanity. Isaiah 66:9, God himself speaking again; " Shall I bring to the point of birth and not give Delivery? Says the Lord." Or shall I who gives delivery " Shut the Womb?" says God again. Christ death was the point of delivery for our new birth in the future, why would God have Jesus die for all of humanitys salvation- and not then deliver us all? Why would he " Shut the Womb", or shut off the Kingdom from anyone?

And lets further examine Revelations book and Gods Judgement; and this Lake of Fire, and this book of life.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:04 pm

Remember that in Matt. 23:13 Jesus accuses certain " Religious humans" of " Shutting off the Kingdom from men", now why would God " Shut off the womb of his Kingdom from men", Isaian 66:9, in his judgement of them? This is HOW we can understand Gods judgement, or what God is " Going to do"; simply look into his word, judge that according to his word; and through his word understand how HE is!

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:17 pm

In Isaiah 61:8 God states that he " Loves Justice." So his judgements will reflect a pure Love of Justice. In 2Corinth. 5:14 it clearly states that Christ " Died for ALL", therefore ALL died with him. What is so " Religiously hard to accept" is that all of humanitys sins, past, present and future, have been PAIED FOR! And thats the ONLY way God would have condemned any human, for their sins. But that stain has been removed from Gods need to condemn because of sin. So we can scripturally base Gods judgements, on the sacrifice of Christ!

So lets do that and get back into Revelations.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:38 pm

In Rev. 20:15 ; if anyones name was not found written in the book of " Life", he was thrown into the lake of fire. Now compare this with Jesus, in John 10:10;" The theif (a reference to the devil) comes to steal, kill and destroy; I come that they might have " Life", and have it abundantly." Jesus " Reason" for comming was to get ALL of our names into this book of Life!

Did he fail? Is it possible for any human, for any reason, to not be saved by Christ and have their name written in this book? The enemy against this book of Life is the devil, it is the devils work to destroy every humans chance for being in this book. Will the devils work suceed in canceling out ANY human?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:42 pm

Mickiel;1375947 wrote: In Rev. 20:15 ; if anyones name was not found written in the book of " Life", he was thrown into the lake of fire. Now compare this with Jesus, in John 10:10;" The theif (a reference to the devil) comes to steal, kill and destroy; I come that they might have " Life", and have it abundantly." Jesus " Reason" for comming was to get ALL of our names into this book of Life!

Did he fail? Is it possible for any human, for any reason, to not be saved by Christ and have their name written in this book? The enemy against this book of Life is the devil, it is the devils work to destroy every humans chance for being in this book. Will the devils work suceed in canceling out ANY human?

Its the devils work to destroy or limit Gods salvation, and many churchs are actually " Assisting the devil", by preaching every way they can find to cancel out any sinners salvation. In 1 John 3:8 " The Son of God " Appeared for THIS PURPOSE", to destroy the works of the devil." The very purpose of Christ comming was to DESTROY all things that keep ANY human out of the book of Life. And Christ didNOT fail in that God ordained mission; so why are churchs teaching his failure by populating this hell in their preaching and teaching?

And lets look at that.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:33 pm

Mickiel;1376204 wrote: Its the devils work to destroy or limit Gods salvation, and many churchs are actually " Assisting the devil", by preaching every way they can find to cancel out any sinners salvation. In 1 John 3:8 " The Son of God " Appeared for THIS PURPOSE", to destroy the works of the devil." The very purpose of Christ comming was to DESTROY all things that keep ANY human out of the book of Life. And Christ didNOT fail in that God ordained mission; so why are churchs teaching his failure by populating this hell in their preaching and teaching?

And lets look at that.

Part of the works of the devil is to limit Gods salvation, confuse humanity on it, because he knows he cannot stop it. And he has used religion like a puppet to accomplish his deceptive work on earth. Thats one reason why Jesus attacked religion, the sadducees and pharisees, who were the forerunners of religion today. The religious message, at its root, is always more about condemnation than it is salvation; it always finds a way to pinpoint sinners and remove them from salvation. The driving force behind this is not God, it is satan devil.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:38 am

Now to understand the book of Revelations and Gods judgement, you don't do that by becomming a " Partner with the devils work!" Don't think of ways to limit Gods Salvation, and increase this false teaching of " Lost dammed human souls." Demons are lost, the eternal fire was created " For them", not humans, they just want us to feel that their destiny, is ours too. Romans 5:18;" So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to ALL men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to ALL men!" Right there IS the judgement of God in the book of Revelations; right there IS the forgiveness of sinners and unbelievers! Just that one verse effectively justifies God forgiving everyone totally!

Look at the unfairness and fairness ratio in this verse; Its just NOT fair that just because of one mans sin, that all men are condemned; thats in no manner of reason fair. Conversely, its not fair that people could live a righteous obedient life and be saved, and so can people who live an unrighteous disobedient life and equally be saved. The reality of this verse is just very hard to comprehend; its just how Gods grace really is! Its just how powerful Jesus death sacrifice really was! It covered EVERYBODY! It GAVE universal forgiveness and universal salvation , as a FREE GIFT! From God! Its just unbelivable, and many religious people certainly don't believe it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:17 am

Everybody makes it with God, we all are forgiven! Now this kind of forgiveness is a fear of christianity. Christianity hates this kind of forgiveness more than it does sin.

Adstar · Post by **Adstar** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:50 am

Mickiel;1378290 wrote: Everybody makes it with God, we all are forgiven! Now this kind of forgiveness is a fear of christianity. Christianity hates this kind of forgiveness more than it does sin.

Representing God falsely and declaring a lie to be His truth is far more serious then Sin. Jesus has covered all sins with His atonement. If you read the Book of Revelation you would see that the beast and the false prophet are human beings that will be cast into the lake of fire. Read Revelation Chapter 20 again and see.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days.

Adstar · Post by **Adstar** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:53 am

Mickiel;1377712 wrote: Now to understand the book of Revelations and Gods judgement, you don't do that by becomming a " Partner with the devils work!" Don't think of ways to limit Gods Salvation, and increase this false teaching of " Lost dammed human souls." Demons are lost, the eternal fire was created " For them", not humans, they just want us to feel that their destiny, is ours too. Romans 5:18;" So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to ALL men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to ALL men!" Right there IS the judgement of God in the book of Revelations; right there IS the forgiveness of sinners and unbelievers! Just that one verse effectively justifies God forgiving everyone totally!

Look at the unfairness and fairness ratio in this verse; Its just NOT fair that just because of one mans sin, that all men are condemned; thats in no manner of reason fair. Conversely, its not fair that people could live a righteous obedient life and be saved, and so can people who live an unrighteous disobedient life and equally be saved. The reality of this verse is just very hard to comprehend; its just how Gods grace really is! Its just how powerful Jesus death sacrifice really was! It covered EVERYBODY! It GAVE universal forgiveness and universal salvation , as a FREE GIFT! From God! Its just unbelivable, and many religious people certainly don't believe it.

Yes it's a Gift and it is freely offered to all men.

But like all Gifts, It is a Gift that Must be Accepted by the ones whom it is offered to.

Reject His Gift and you do not recieve it. Many have Rejected His Gift.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:22 am

Adstar;1379166 wrote: Yes it's a Gift and it is freely offered to all men.

But like all Gifts, It is a Gift that Must be Accepted by the ones whom it is offered to.

Reject His Gift and you do not recieve it. Many have Rejected His Gift.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I couldcareless about your limited view of salvation; christians always look for room to condemn unbelievers; thats why I hold no intrest in them or their view of scripture.

Adstar · Post by **Adstar** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:19 am

Mickiel;1379174 wrote: I couldcareless about your limited view of salvation; christians always look for room to condemn unbelievers; thats why I hold no intrest in them or their view of scripture.

Yes you have already stated your position in relation to my thoughts in the other thread. At the moment i am more interested in others who may be reading your thoughts and seeing them as having authority. You are free to give your thoughts. But don’t think you are free to give your thoughts unchallenged.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:13 am

Adstar;1379306 wrote: Yes you have already stated your position in relation to my thoughts in the other thread. At the moment i am more interested in others who may be reading your thoughts and seeing them as having authority. You are free to give your thoughts. But don’t think you are free to give your thoughts unchallenged.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Since your concern is others; you tell those others that I couldcareless who they think my authority comes from; I hold no intrest in my words " Having Authority"; my words speak for themselves. I hold absolutely no intrest in how many people are interested in those words, nor what they think about those words; you tell " These people your concerned with that!"

Adstar · Post by **Adstar** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:40 am

Mickiel;1379318 wrote: Since your concern is others; you tell those others that I couldcareless who they think my authority comes from; I hold no intrest in my words " Having Authority"; my words speak for themselves. I hold absolutely no intrest in how many people are interested in those words, nor what they think about those words; you tell " These people your concerned with that!"
Seems odd that you are making this statement or close variations of this statement over and over again in different threads to me. Seems to me that you "doth protest too much", leading me to think you do care what others think of your thoughts.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:37 am

Adstar;1379400 wrote: Seems odd that you are making this statement or close variations of this statement over and over again in different threads to me. Seems to me that you "doth protest too much", leading me to think you do care what others think of your thoughts.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I am not concerned with " Leading you to think", and it seems no matter how many times I tell you that; it does not matter. Leading others to think is a job already taken by the Holy Spirit; and I simply know my place in reality. The Holy Spirit needs no help from a human in leading people to think.

I have looked into the bible and seen the final outcome of Gods will; and that outcome has absolutely nothing to do with how people think. It has to do with Gods free gift to all; we all are predestined to be with God, no matter how christians think. No matter how unbelievers think.

Its how God thinks that matters; and I , for one, am glad he does not think like a christian.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:21 am

I want to get back on topic, and examine if humanity has a chance of surviving Gods judgement. Has God designed an " Survival of the fittest program?" Is God Eletist and is only going to choose just those who believe in him? Is there really a battle between good and evil, and will that battle determine human destiny? Can there really be a battle against God? I mean what can defeat a God? Is it even possible to defeat Gods plans for humanity?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:59 am

Careful consideration of God demands a readiness to shift the gears in your consciousness. Consider your own common sense; lets just say you are God, would you design humanity and create billions of them, only to leave their destiny up to them? Would you set up a barricade for them that effectively disqualifys most of them based on their own behavior, when you hold the power to see to it that they cannot fail no matter what? I have no way of knowing this, but giving most humans the benefit of doubt, I think most of us, IF we were God, would be sure to incorperate things which would insure our success! Why many people seem to think God does not have this kind of sense, is beyond me! God is ALL powerful; why do you think he willnot use that power to ensure the complette salvation of ALL?

Consider Phil. 3:21;" ( Speaking of one of the powers of Christ!) Who will transform the body of our humble state into " Conformity" with the body of his Glory, by THE EXERTION OF THE POWER THAT HE HAS to subject ALL things to himself! The power to subject all of humanity to himself is THERE! Why think God has based Salvation on " Free Will", human choice; human decision; human co-operation or belief? When he has the power to " Subject humans", and give them this incredible salvation absolutely free!

So lets consider this in our shifting of gears.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:06 pm

Are we, as a race of human beings, ever going to meet God and under what terms? If we are to consider the teachings of traditional religions, are many of us then doomed? I mean just what is this God really like? What is he going to do with us? What does HE " Want with us?"

And considering that HE is a power, can what HE wants be stopped by our ignorance of him?

AnunnakiElder · Post by **AnunnakiElder** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:26 pm

Mickiel;1380882 wrote: Are we, as a race of human beings, ever going to meet God and under what terms? If we are to consider the teachings of traditional religions, are many of us then doomed? I mean just what is this God really like? What is he going to do with us? What does HE " Want with us?"

And considering that HE is a power, can what HE wants be stopped by our ignorance of him?

Yes, we will meet God. He is currently incarnated into the flesh and will reveal himself (I believe soon) whoever and wherever he is.

Many of you are doomed, those of you who do not escape mental polarity/dualism are bound to another incarnation in the third dimension.

God is like you and I, God wants nothing with you but to evolve your soul/lightbody.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:34 pm

AnunnakiElder;1380885 wrote:

Many of you are doomed, .

I have to take issue with this, I certainly don't believe many of us are doomed. What good will damnation do anyone? What in our minds causes us to think so much of damnation? Why would the powers that be, doom anyone? Why? If power can be used to light up a dark world, why would that light then doom anyone?

AnunnakiElder · Post by **AnunnakiElder** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:04 pm

Mickiel;1380916 wrote: I have to take issue with this, I certainly don't believe many of us are doomed. What good will damnation do anyone? What in our minds causes us to think so much of damnation? Why would the powers that be, doom anyone? Why? If power can be used to light up a dark world, why would that light then doom anyone?

Evolution, those who do not escape polarity/dualism will be left behind. Mankind has been placed under a spell called Kingu. Mastering the brains chemical balance naturally, controlling emotion through overstanding the act alone doesn't make it good or evil, another persons perception of the said act makes it good or evil.

By me pressing my views and beliefs on another, I'm only going to make that individual lash our at me, by me NEEDING to PROVE my views to another, would mean I think I am correct over someone else and even though in my "world" I am, in their world I'm not.

SO, why does God want ego in heaven?

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:38 pm

AnunnakiElder;1380919 wrote: Evolution, those who do not escape polarity/dualism will be left behind. Mankind has been placed under a spell called Kingu. Mastering the brains chemical balance naturally, controlling emotion through overstanding the act alone doesn't make it good or evil, another persons perception of the said act makes it good or evil.

By me pressing my views and beliefs on another, I'm only going to make that individual lash our at me, by me NEEDING to PROVE my views to another, would mean I think I am correct over someone else and even though in my "world" I am, in their world I'm not.

SO, why does God want ego in heaven?

I think it requires a lot of " Ego" to tell others that they are doomed! I would like to see you prove that others are doomed. And I wouldnot consider that as you pressing your views on me, I am just curious as to why you think in such terms. Does this " Spell called Kingu" give you insight into the future of certain humans? Has it mastered your brain so much that you can announce the doom of others?

AnunnakiElder · Post by **AnunnakiElder** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:07 am

It requires no ego to tell humans they are doomed, it's been prophesied and therefore it will be. I am not human, I am Annunaki. Long ago we came to Earth to assist in human evolution, in the past one hundred years we have incarnated in order to speed up human progression. The year 2030 will be the last year our craft will come for those chosen to repopulate the earth after QI is repaired. We (the incarnated anu-elohim will return to our mother ships. Yahweh/Jehovah is an Annunaki named Enlil, he is the brother of Enki (Lucifer).

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:02 am

[QUOTE=A. I am not human, I am Annunaki. ).

Well I only talk to humans on this site, so don't take it personal that I will ignore you from here on.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:24 pm

Mickiel;1380959 wrote: Well I only talk to humans on this site, so don't take it personal that I will ignore you from here on.

I tell you, I am not as surprised as I used to be at what comes through the internet door.

Are we ever going to meet God? I mean if theres anyone I would like to meet, it certainly would be God. Well I believe in him, so all believers in him would want to meet him, thats for sure. But I caution any believer in God who would tell anyonelse that they willnot meet God. That is rude, unscriptual, vain and useless assumption. It the inherent destiny for all humans to meet God, this is the true meaning of Romans 5:18; destiny for all.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:05 pm

What does God want with us? Look at James 3:17;"But the wisdom from above is first Pure, then Peaceable, Gentle, Reasonable, Full of Mercy and Good Fruits, unwavering and without hypocrisy." All these are the " Intent" behind the reason God wants us. Gods intentions for us are first " Pure." He has Pure desires for us, pure intentions for us, and Pure Love for us. So we don't have to feel as if God " Is out to get us", with bad intentions. There is no corruption in his intentions, hes not trying to trick us.

Secondly his intentions are Peaceful , no matter how much we read about war in the bible. God wants to make Peace with humanity, even though he will destroy the remaining works of the devil. Although he will war with the devil, God is a Gentle being and he is Reasonable; and he will reason with all of humanity. God is slap full of Mercy, and that Mercy is our destiny.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:43 pm

So what is God really like? Can we know for sure?

Well yes we can, again using the only book that I know of that gives an exact discription of him. This is what God is like;

Galations 5: 22-23;" But the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." These are the very charactheristics of God, his own ways and means. He IS each one of these in unmeasurable levels! And I want to go into each one of his ways, and how he does everything he does, based absolutely on these ways.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:42 pm

God being Love does not mean he is a giant ball of emotional icky gicky goo, it is descriptive of what he " Will Do;" He will Love and continue to Love; its his way of thinking, living, judging and creating. And Love is Gods way of ruling his world. Its his way of dealing with situations and decisions. And its what he bases our future on.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:43 pm

Another characteristic of God is Joy; God always expects the Good of things, and he is excited by that Good. He has a delightful disposition and he is always happy. This is how God really is, its a very integral part of his very nature. He takes pleasure in Good and the expectation of Good, which is why we are fortunate to have him as our God. He is full of Joy and all of heaven rejoices that he is like that, and they praise him continually for it.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:26 pm

God is Peaceful by nature , his demeanor is Tranquil and Calm. God is not hostile , his wrath is his reaction to sin, not to people. God has perfect tranquility of mind and he is in harmony with his Kingdom. Peace is his way, and he will have no other way for his Kingdom and rule.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Gods patience is legendary in heaven. He is not in a hurry because eternity is his. Many humans are longing for God to end this world now, to reveal himself now; but God is very patient, not hasty; he only has a timetable for this present material world, there are no timetables in eternity- why would there be? If you had all eternity, why would you rush or make timetables? And this must be understood about God when you pray to him out of frustration and urgency; you may think certain things need to be done in a manner of time, and you may even be correct about that; but God views things through his Patience, not ours. I wouldnot try and place timetables on God, he already knows the needs we have; he already knows.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:27 pm

God is Kind , he has a good and benevolent nature. He wants to please and help his people. God is pleasant and friendly , and this is what we have to look forward to ruling us for all of eternity. It may be hard to believe or imagine, but these are REALLY Gods ways.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:18 pm

This is post 696.

I'm just sayin'... in post 666 it was said that " God states that he " Loves Justice." So his judgements will reflect a pure Love of Justice." and yet this thread is still going.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:14 am

koan;1382223 wrote: This is post 696.

I'm just sayin'... in post 666 it was said that " God states that he " Loves Justice." So his judgements will reflect a pure Love of Justice." and yet this thread is still going.

Are you suggesting that you have a problem with the thread?

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:29 am

I'm reading the OT so I still haven't met the God you're talking about.

... and that was pretty darned funny.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:15 pm

koan;1382235 wrote: I'm reading the OT so I still haven't met the God you're talking about.

... and that was pretty darned funny.

Well I have not met him either.

The length of threads are determined by people who read them; they often take a life of their own. If people keep reading, keep showing intrest, then if you started the thread; just keep writing.

Mickiel · Post by **Mickiel** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:13 am

God is Good! He thinks Good and Righteous. His merits are excellent! God is very virtuous and morally excellent. His atittudes are unimparied by evil and his intentions for all life is wholesome. More importantly God is generous and will give eternal life to all freely.