Absurdity and The US Muppet Show

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:22 pm

Can anyone seriously disagree that the 2012 US elections feature a choice of muppets? These people can't be real. If I'd written them into a script I'd be accused of mocking the US to the degree of hatred.

Alongside this craziness, we have the Indefinite Detention Bill afoot. That's the US granting itself the right to indefinitely detain without charges anyone in any country they merely suspect of terrorism. Any country. Is the government of the United States not aware that they can only make laws for their own country?

littleCJelkton · Post by **littleCJelkton** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:47 pm

The muppet show was WAAAAAAAAY beter

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:52 pm

I think the first candidate to do the mahna mahna song with kermit will be the winner.

littleCJelkton · Post by **littleCJelkton** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:59 pm

Well you got to remember even though they were puppets the muppets had much more of their own personality, veiws, and were in control of their actions much more than Obama or any of the GOP canadates are

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:50 am

Just had a quick look at the reports on the internet about the Indefinite Detention Bill and as far as I can see they seem to be saying the Bill will allow the indefinite detention of US citizens. It doesn't seem to refer to citizens of other countries.

We have a similar issue here - the time a suspected terrorist can be held without charge is now (I think) two weeks rather than the 24 hours it is for anything else. A worrying trend for civil liberties because of the danger of misuse in both cases.

But I don't at present see the US giving itself the right to detain citizens of other countries. Am I missing something?

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:19 am

...however, a closer look has revealed you are entirely correct and anyone suspected of being an "enemy combatant" can be held without trial.

Crazy. Open to abuse.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:41 am

koan;1378650 wrote: Alongside this craziness, we have the Indefinite Detention Bill afoot. That's the US granting itself the right to indefinitely detain without charges anyone in any country they merely suspect of terrorism. Any country. Is the government of the United States not aware that they can only make laws for their own country?There you go making false accusations again, koan. It's not anyone the suspect of terrorism. It's anyone they suspect has a link to anyone they suspect of terrorism. And y'know... your strident complaints against our gov't gives ample suspicion that you might possess such links. I'll be making some calls. [/sarcasm]

koan;1378653 wrote: I think the first candidate to do the mahna mahna song with kermit will be the winner.
Not gunna happen. Herman Cain's the only one with the right voice and he's dropped out.

tabby · Post by **tabby** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:29 am

I'm offering here my personal choice for candidate and yes that's about as serious as I can be at this point. I'll sober up and knit my brows as I get closer to election day. Maybe.

And yes, I have looked at the candidates for both major parties which brings me to the above conclusion. I agree with Koan except that I won't insult the muppets.