A thing of the past?
What's the problem here?
kyoto?
kyoto?
I must be missing something, I thought the Kyoto Protocol had drawn a 1990 line in the sand and everyone on earth was committed by treaty to step back to the line, with the exception of the US, Australia and peculiar enclaves like Macau and Krygystan. It's been spectacularly successful. Macau's an insignificant bargaining chip, Australia's an inexplicable embarrassment and the rest are rogue states in the process of deconstructing themselves. Kyoto didn't come with an expiry date.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
kyoto?
koan;1378027 wrote: It's expiring. It had a date.
The protocol is not expiring - Canada might decide to withdraw but Kyoto itself will live on.
The protocol is not expiring - Canada might decide to withdraw but Kyoto itself will live on.
kyoto?
So interesting that I've been listening to Democracy Now broadcasting live from Durban all week stating repeatedly that the protocol is under threat of nonrenewal. The commitments are expiring. The protocol will, of course, continue to have been something that happened but it's not really "alive" if no one is committed to it. Today's news finally has mention that the EU will commit regardless of Canada, US, Russia, and Japan pulling out/refusing to join. Previous to this morning there was no indication from any news source I've found that anyone was recommitting so I think it's reasonable to continue asking "what's the problem here?"
kyoto?
koan;1378032 wrote: So interesting that I've been listening to Democracy Now broadcasting live from Durban all week stating repeatedly that the protocol is under threat of nonrenewal. The commitments are expiring. The protocol will, of course, continue to have been something that happened but it's not really "alive" if no one is committed to it. Today's news finally has mention that the EU will commit regardless of Canada, US, Russia, and Japan pulling out/refusing to join. Previous to this morning there was no indication from any news source I've found that anyone was recommitting so I think it's reasonable to continue asking "what's the problem here?"
Ah, now I see where you are coming from - and the answer, as always, is money. Round two carries penalties for non-achievement of the targets that no-one wants to risk if others are risk free.
Ah, now I see where you are coming from - and the answer, as always, is money. Round two carries penalties for non-achievement of the targets that no-one wants to risk if others are risk free.
kyoto?
I apologize, I'd not been watching. Yes, the first round targets expire at the end of the year and round two targets haven't been agreed and there's a gap developed which, who knows, may never be filled the way things have been going. I'll try to read the end-of-conference summary, when they publish one, and come back to the thread.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.