Mickiel;1370367 wrote: Strange that you encourage me to stop posting. I'll make a deal with you; if you stop posting on this site, then so will I. If not, explain to me why I should stop, and you shouldnot.
no what I want you to do is stop talking to yourself about things you already convinced yourself you believe in, that or you really are doing all this posting to try to get others to believe the same and if so discuss it and why others should believe so.
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littleCJelkton;1370475 wrote: no what I want you to do is stop talking to yourself about things you already convinced yourself you believe in, that or you really are doing all this posting to try to get others to believe the same and if so discuss it and why others should believe so.
I refuse. I'll keep talking to myself, because I like to. 80% of speaking is talking to yourself. I trust myself.
I am not trying to get others to believe; have you seen me trying to convince someone? People have a right to believe as they wish. Why should I waste my time doing something I am against?
I refuse. I'll keep talking to myself, because I like to. 80% of speaking is talking to yourself. I trust myself.
I am not trying to get others to believe; have you seen me trying to convince someone? People have a right to believe as they wish. Why should I waste my time doing something I am against?
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Mickiel;1370477 wrote: I refuse. I'll keep talking to myself, because I like to. 80% of speaking is talking to yourself. I trust myself.
I am not trying to get others to believe; have you seen me trying to convince someone? People have a right to believe as they wish. Why should I waste my time doing something I am against?
and not that many post ago you were worried about me. ???? how do you know your not doing something your against if you have to not only talk to yourself internally, but type post on a forum to yourself to convince yourself of what your are and are not against? sounds to me that trusting yourself is what you need to start doing then maybe you can start to learn to talk to other people about your beliefs, that is people other than yourself and whoever else in your head your trying to convince.
I am not trying to get others to believe; have you seen me trying to convince someone? People have a right to believe as they wish. Why should I waste my time doing something I am against?
and not that many post ago you were worried about me. ???? how do you know your not doing something your against if you have to not only talk to yourself internally, but type post on a forum to yourself to convince yourself of what your are and are not against? sounds to me that trusting yourself is what you need to start doing then maybe you can start to learn to talk to other people about your beliefs, that is people other than yourself and whoever else in your head your trying to convince.
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littleCJelkton;1370478 wrote:
that is people other than yourself and whoever else in your head your trying to convince.
Again, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything.
that is people other than yourself and whoever else in your head your trying to convince.
Again, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything.
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Mickiel;1370481 wrote: Again, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything.
really what does this say?
Mickiel;1370481 wrote: Well yes thats absolutely true. I hold no intrest in convincing others, only myself.
you are someone and someone is included in anyone in this statement you hold no interest in convincing others only "yoursefl" which is someone now if your not trying to convince yourself of anything, then you are worse of than I thought which was already pretty bad, but if your trying to convince yourself of something then I still hold what I said previously in the thread.
really what does this say?
Mickiel;1370481 wrote: Well yes thats absolutely true. I hold no intrest in convincing others, only myself.
you are someone and someone is included in anyone in this statement you hold no interest in convincing others only "yoursefl" which is someone now if your not trying to convince yourself of anything, then you are worse of than I thought which was already pretty bad, but if your trying to convince yourself of something then I still hold what I said previously in the thread.
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littleCJelkton;1370553 wrote: really what does this say?
you are someone and someone is included in anyone in this statement you hold no interest in convincing others only "yoursefl" which is someone now if your not trying to convince yourself of anything, then you are worse of than I thought which was already pretty bad, but if your trying to convince yourself of something then I still hold what I said previously in the thread.
Again, if I am so bad, whay are you spending so much time reading what I have to say?
you are someone and someone is included in anyone in this statement you hold no interest in convincing others only "yoursefl" which is someone now if your not trying to convince yourself of anything, then you are worse of than I thought which was already pretty bad, but if your trying to convince yourself of something then I still hold what I said previously in the thread.
Again, if I am so bad, whay are you spending so much time reading what I have to say?
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Yes
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WonderWendy3;1370561 wrote: Yes
God most certainly is real. He created human DNA; did you know if all our DNA in our body was stretched out, it would reach the Moon 6,000 times. This incredible complexity within our own body, is proof of God. Nothing like that could evolve from a pool of chemicals that popped out from nothing.
God most certainly is real. He created human DNA; did you know if all our DNA in our body was stretched out, it would reach the Moon 6,000 times. This incredible complexity within our own body, is proof of God. Nothing like that could evolve from a pool of chemicals that popped out from nothing.
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Mickiel;1370559 wrote: Again, if I am so bad, whay are you spending so much time reading what I have to say? ???????????
I try to make it more of an actual YOU prespective as is the format for discussing in a thread on a forum. What you want my friend is a blog, but if your going to post all this stuff as public with everyone allowed to access it you cannot expect (though apparently you want to think otherwise) it not to be read by people other than yourself, and thus others are going to make their own convictions and weigh them against your " "personal" " convictions that you just happen to make "public" and discuss and debate their convictions vs your convictions. If you don't want others measuring their own convictions and beliefs vs yours and don't want to discuss the differences and similarities between the beliefs of the person who makes up the beliefs of (I, My, Myself me) vs the beliefs of (you, them, they, everyone) then discuss your beliefs personally not publicly. Why are you asking why I am reading what is posted to read in a public setting on a network shared all over the world?
I try to make it more of an actual YOU prespective as is the format for discussing in a thread on a forum. What you want my friend is a blog, but if your going to post all this stuff as public with everyone allowed to access it you cannot expect (though apparently you want to think otherwise) it not to be read by people other than yourself, and thus others are going to make their own convictions and weigh them against your " "personal" " convictions that you just happen to make "public" and discuss and debate their convictions vs your convictions. If you don't want others measuring their own convictions and beliefs vs yours and don't want to discuss the differences and similarities between the beliefs of the person who makes up the beliefs of (I, My, Myself me) vs the beliefs of (you, them, they, everyone) then discuss your beliefs personally not publicly. Why are you asking why I am reading what is posted to read in a public setting on a network shared all over the world?
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littleCJelkton;1370574 wrote: ???????????
I try to make it more of an actual YOU prespective as is the format for discussing in a thread on a forum. What you want my friend is a blog, but if your going to post all this stuff as public with everyone allowed to access it you cannot expect (though apparently you want to think otherwise) it not to be read by people other than yourself, and thus others are going to make their own convictions and weigh them against your " "personal" " convictions that you just happen to make "public" and discuss and debate their convictions vs your convictions. If you don't want others measuring their own convictions and beliefs vs yours and don't want to discuss the differences and similarities between the beliefs of the person who makes up the beliefs of (I, My, Myself me) vs the beliefs of (you, them, they, everyone) then discuss your beliefs personally not publicly. Why are you asking why I am reading what is posted to read in a public setting on a network shared all over the world?
You criticize it so much, I just wonder why you bother reading it. I can't count the personal insults you have tossed at me And another thing, I will continue to publically discuss topics, and there is nothing you can do about that.
I try to make it more of an actual YOU prespective as is the format for discussing in a thread on a forum. What you want my friend is a blog, but if your going to post all this stuff as public with everyone allowed to access it you cannot expect (though apparently you want to think otherwise) it not to be read by people other than yourself, and thus others are going to make their own convictions and weigh them against your " "personal" " convictions that you just happen to make "public" and discuss and debate their convictions vs your convictions. If you don't want others measuring their own convictions and beliefs vs yours and don't want to discuss the differences and similarities between the beliefs of the person who makes up the beliefs of (I, My, Myself me) vs the beliefs of (you, them, they, everyone) then discuss your beliefs personally not publicly. Why are you asking why I am reading what is posted to read in a public setting on a network shared all over the world?
You criticize it so much, I just wonder why you bother reading it. I can't count the personal insults you have tossed at me And another thing, I will continue to publically discuss topics, and there is nothing you can do about that.
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God is real, and the personal belief of a human does not make him real; hes real wether we believe or not. The Universe operates in an orderly manner, according to its laws. The laws of Physics ( Gravity and Motion). The laws of chemistry and the laws of Biology. Science didnot create or own these laws, they simply reconized them. Like math, they simply figured it out. Gravity holds the planets in their orbits, Biology fixes our differing species. None of these laws have been broken.
How did they orginate? Where did they come from? Who set them in motion? How are they substained?
Law demands a lawgiver and substainer; which is God.
How did they orginate? Where did they come from? Who set them in motion? How are they substained?
Law demands a lawgiver and substainer; which is God.
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Mickiel;1370653 wrote: You criticize it so much, I just wonder why you bother reading it. I can't count the personal insults you have tossed at me And another thing, I will continue to publically discuss topics, and there is nothing you can do about that.
Then I willl continue to criticize the publically discussed topic
Then I willl continue to criticize the publically discussed topic
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littleCJelkton;1370767 wrote: Then I willl continue to criticize the publically discussed topic
And there is nothing I can do about you responding with criticism, which is why I never try to stop you from posting; So why don't you give me the same respect, and stop trying to stop me?
And there is nothing I can do about you responding with criticism, which is why I never try to stop you from posting; So why don't you give me the same respect, and stop trying to stop me?
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Mickiel;1370771 wrote: And there is nothing I can do about you responding with criticism, which is why I never try to stop you from posting; So why don't you give me the same respect, and stop trying to stop me?
That right their is one form of criticism if you don't like something often times people will try to stop whatever it is that is going on, if some one is making an annoying sound, your sibling keeps poking you in the back, or a bully keeps picking on you at school. So trying to stop you in and of itself is a criticism it's just with this post I tend to post a lot because you post a lot in an attempt to drown out those who post things that criticize what you post thus I post a lot as not to get drown out in you plethora of monologues that have made up this thread. Showing respect ???? well I would but you have to do the same though you have shown that you wont stop what your doing, which is talk to yourself about your own beliefs and disreguard what others say about what your saying, and I find it quite rude for a person to continue talking to their self when others try to talk to them, even more if they do it deliberately, and more so if there doing it in a place that is designed to create public discussion.
That right their is one form of criticism if you don't like something often times people will try to stop whatever it is that is going on, if some one is making an annoying sound, your sibling keeps poking you in the back, or a bully keeps picking on you at school. So trying to stop you in and of itself is a criticism it's just with this post I tend to post a lot because you post a lot in an attempt to drown out those who post things that criticize what you post thus I post a lot as not to get drown out in you plethora of monologues that have made up this thread. Showing respect ???? well I would but you have to do the same though you have shown that you wont stop what your doing, which is talk to yourself about your own beliefs and disreguard what others say about what your saying, and I find it quite rude for a person to continue talking to their self when others try to talk to them, even more if they do it deliberately, and more so if there doing it in a place that is designed to create public discussion.
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littleCJelkton;1370781 wrote:
and I find it quite rude for a person to continue talking to their self when others try to talk to them, even more if they do it deliberately, and more so if there doing it in a place that is designed to create public discussion.
I have been engaging people here for years, and you cannot change that fact with your limited opinon. I only stop engaging them when they get rude, but I am making an exception with you. I believe every poster here has the right to ignore, or engage rudness in others. Its up to them, not to you. I mean you can whine about it, but its your behavior that causes others to ignore you; yet you want to blame them for that, which is another form of rudeness within itself.
The topic is, " Is God Real?", its not about you or me, YOU just want to deflect it into that; You are transparent, I see through you.
And the topic is far more important than you or I. So I shall continue on it, and continue to ignore rudness when I see fit.
and I find it quite rude for a person to continue talking to their self when others try to talk to them, even more if they do it deliberately, and more so if there doing it in a place that is designed to create public discussion.
I have been engaging people here for years, and you cannot change that fact with your limited opinon. I only stop engaging them when they get rude, but I am making an exception with you. I believe every poster here has the right to ignore, or engage rudness in others. Its up to them, not to you. I mean you can whine about it, but its your behavior that causes others to ignore you; yet you want to blame them for that, which is another form of rudeness within itself.
The topic is, " Is God Real?", its not about you or me, YOU just want to deflect it into that; You are transparent, I see through you.
And the topic is far more important than you or I. So I shall continue on it, and continue to ignore rudness when I see fit.
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You know, with this topic, I understand that it will draw many detractors and dissagreement; such is the nature of examining is God real. The probability of me giving examples of God being real, without stirring up resentment, is miniscule at best. It is a basic human right to believe in God, but our conscious calls on us to prove it to ourselves. Which is a good thing, its not an evil effort. Objects in the world have differing degrees of qualities, but Goodness exist in humans, not objects of matter. Speaking of Goodness makes much more sense if we compare it with the maximun goodness, which is God.
Goodness didnot form from a pool of magical chemicals with created itself from nothing. How can imaginary chemicals form Goodness? For that matter, how could real chemicals create goodness? That is a quality that God infused into humanity, and proof that he is real.
Goodness didnot form from a pool of magical chemicals with created itself from nothing. How can imaginary chemicals form Goodness? For that matter, how could real chemicals create goodness? That is a quality that God infused into humanity, and proof that he is real.
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Listen; The Living humans on earth do not outnumber the dead. The dead humans, since creation, are about 60 billion people! Do you think thats all to their lives, to live in a type of hell, then die and go to another type of hell? No, no, No! Death is a fatal event, but with God, its not a final event, only God has given us hope of an afterlife in perfect peace with him.
He is not going to waste any human life. We have a definte purpose that is far beyond ourselves, but its focused on ourselves. The REASON why so many humans have lived, is because God wants a very big family. The amount of humans who have lived, is proof of God. A key to his intent. God has not been selfish with life, hes created billions of beings, NOT just to die; but to live with him in eternity.
Why would God create billions of humans, only to kill them; bring them back to life, and torture them forever, just because they didnot believe in him? God is not a pathological sadist. He is our future. Death is not our future.
He is not going to waste any human life. We have a definte purpose that is far beyond ourselves, but its focused on ourselves. The REASON why so many humans have lived, is because God wants a very big family. The amount of humans who have lived, is proof of God. A key to his intent. God has not been selfish with life, hes created billions of beings, NOT just to die; but to live with him in eternity.
Why would God create billions of humans, only to kill them; bring them back to life, and torture them forever, just because they didnot believe in him? God is not a pathological sadist. He is our future. Death is not our future.
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Mickiel;1370852 wrote: I have been engaging people here for years, and you cannot change that fact with your limited opinon. I only stop engaging them when they get rude, but I am making an exception with you. I believe every poster here has the right to ignore, or engage rudness in others. Its up to them, not to you. I mean you can whine about it, but its your behavior that causes others to ignore you; yet you want to blame them for that, which is another form of rudeness within itself.
The topic is, " Is God Real?", its not about you or me, YOU just want to deflect it into that; You are transparent, I see through you.
And the topic is far more important than you or I. So I shall continue on it, and continue to ignore rudness when I see fit.
This topic is not really important at all if you choose to find that as rude go ahead but it really isn't, and the fact you take the subject of reality of your "GOD" over my god or his god or her god or their god or no god instead of as more important than how you actually live you life and how you treat others and engage with others says a lot about your sense of rudeness and politeness.
The topic is, " Is God Real?", its not about you or me, YOU just want to deflect it into that; You are transparent, I see through you.
And the topic is far more important than you or I. So I shall continue on it, and continue to ignore rudness when I see fit.
This topic is not really important at all if you choose to find that as rude go ahead but it really isn't, and the fact you take the subject of reality of your "GOD" over my god or his god or her god or their god or no god instead of as more important than how you actually live you life and how you treat others and engage with others says a lot about your sense of rudeness and politeness.
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Don't go to church on Sunday
Don't get on my knees to pray
Don't memorize the books of the Bible
I got my own special way
Bit I know Jesus loves me
Maybe just a little bit more
fall on my knees every Sunday
At Zerelda Lee's candy store
- Tom Waits
Don't get on my knees to pray
Don't memorize the books of the Bible
I got my own special way
Bit I know Jesus loves me
Maybe just a little bit more
fall on my knees every Sunday
At Zerelda Lee's candy store
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Well it's got to be a chocolate Jesus
Make me feel good inside
Got to be a chocolate Jesus
Keep me satisfied
Make me feel good inside
Got to be a chocolate Jesus
Keep me satisfied
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Well I don't want no Abba Zabba
Don't want no Almond Joy
There ain't nothing better
Suitable for this boy
Well it's the only thing
That can pick me up
Better than a cup of gold
See only a chocolate Jesus
Can satisfy my soul
Don't want no Almond Joy
There ain't nothing better
Suitable for this boy
Well it's the only thing
That can pick me up
Better than a cup of gold
See only a chocolate Jesus
Can satisfy my soul
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Is God Real? Well many prophecys in the bible have come true, but many do not view that as evidence, although it is. I cannot encourage you enough to consider the bible in your search for God being real. It is not flawless, it has been tampered with, but God made sure enough of the truth got through. You are not flawless, but yet you live, and enough of your life has gotten through. You yourself, are one of the finest proofs of God.
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You are one of the finest proofs of God. There are protiens in your body. Just " One" of those is the protien " Cilium." In your body, are Epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract, each about 200 Cilia, that beat in synchrony to sweep mucus towards the throat for elimination. A Cilium consists of a membrane coated bundle of fibers called " Axoneme." An Axoneme contains a ring of 9 double microtubules surrounding two central single microtubules. Each outer doublet consist of a ring of 13 filaments ( Subfiber A) fused to an assembly of 10 filaments ( Subfiber B). The Filaments of the microtubules are composed of two protiens called Alpha and Beta Tublin. The 11 microtubules forming an Axoneme are held together by three types of connectors: Subfibers A are joined to the central microtubules by radical spokes: adjacent outer doublets are joined by " Linkers" that consist of a highly elastic protien called" Nexin." And the central microtubules are joined by a connecting bridge. Finally, every subfiber bears two arms, an inner and outer, both containing the protien " Dynein."
A simply stunning example of irreducible complexity, within your own body right now! YOU are absolute proof of God!
A simply stunning example of irreducible complexity, within your own body right now! YOU are absolute proof of God!
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Why keep answering this dude man? You're just helping him make this a never ending thread.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
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jones jones;1371085 wrote: Why keep answering this dude man? You're just helping him make this a never ending thread.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
I am not a member of a church or any other group, and I don't ask for money or readers to come to this thread. I would suggest two things to you if you want this thread to end; Take your own advice and don't post on it again; or, start a crusade against it and force others to stop reading it.
Anyhow, Peace to you whichever you decide to do.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
I am not a member of a church or any other group, and I don't ask for money or readers to come to this thread. I would suggest two things to you if you want this thread to end; Take your own advice and don't post on it again; or, start a crusade against it and force others to stop reading it.
Anyhow, Peace to you whichever you decide to do.
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jones jones;1371085 wrote: Why keep answering this dude man? You're just helping him make this a never ending thread.
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I am kind of curious though; about 95% of the responses I get on this thread, are from those who are against it. So if anyone is " Helping it", who would that be? Either those against it are helping it; or those who simply read from intrest and say nothing are helping it. Yet I am surprised at the frustration it seems to cause in those against it. It makes me wonder if that frustration is a proof of God?
I have to look in to that.
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I am kind of curious though; about 95% of the responses I get on this thread, are from those who are against it. So if anyone is " Helping it", who would that be? Either those against it are helping it; or those who simply read from intrest and say nothing are helping it. Yet I am surprised at the frustration it seems to cause in those against it. It makes me wonder if that frustration is a proof of God?
I have to look in to that.
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jones jones;1371085 wrote: Why keep answering this dude man? You're just helping him make this a never ending thread.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
The way I see it it is going to continue regardless of if I post so I say why not add enlessness post to the endless friend giving then endless counterpoints to the one given.
The wizard in the sky con has been going on for thousands of years. Let the sheep follow and make the churches wealthy.
The way I see it it is going to continue regardless of if I post so I say why not add enlessness post to the endless friend giving then endless counterpoints to the one given.
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Mickiel;1371091 wrote: I am kind of curious though; about 95% of the responses I get on this thread, are from those who are against it. So if anyone is " Helping it", who would that be? Either those against it are helping it; or those who simply read from intrest and say nothing are helping it. Yet I am surprised at the frustration it seems to cause in those against it. It makes me wonder if that frustration is a proof of God?
I have to look in to that.
I like to look in to you proof of god being a proof that no god exist because you keep having to make up new proofs when the old one looses merit. Though you could be just insane due to your relentless persuit of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting someone to do something different "someone helping it" when you almost always get someone "against it".
I have to look in to that.
I like to look in to you proof of god being a proof that no god exist because you keep having to make up new proofs when the old one looses merit. Though you could be just insane due to your relentless persuit of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting someone to do something different "someone helping it" when you almost always get someone "against it".
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littleCJelkton;1371128 wrote: The way I see it it is going to continue regardless of if I post so I say why not add enlessness post to the endless friend giving then endless counterpoints to the one given.
Well thank you for your help. If people stop reading it, I'll stop writing it. But thank you for hanging on, your fellow Atheist couldnot take the punishment.
But its true, the proof of God is endless, and all over the earth and in the heavens. Its too many proofs to count.
Well thank you for your help. If people stop reading it, I'll stop writing it. But thank you for hanging on, your fellow Atheist couldnot take the punishment.
But its true, the proof of God is endless, and all over the earth and in the heavens. Its too many proofs to count.
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Mickiel;1371134 wrote: Well thank you for your help. If people stop reading it, I'll stop writing it. But thank you for hanging on, your fellow Atheist couldnot take the punishment.
But its true, the proof of God is endless, and all over the earth and in the heavens. Its too many proofs to count.
What who where why and how can you say i am an atheist describe what you think is an atheist is it one who doesn't believe in the existence of god or is it one that doesn't believe in the existence of your god?
But its true, the proof of God is endless, and all over the earth and in the heavens. Its too many proofs to count.
What who where why and how can you say i am an atheist describe what you think is an atheist is it one who doesn't believe in the existence of god or is it one that doesn't believe in the existence of your god?
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You prove God to yourself by continuing to press on after him, no matter what. If it takes years to discover that he is real, then take everyday of those years. He Loves you; he cares about you; and he has secured your future with him. Spend your spare time considering if he is real.
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I love my self and find others that love there self and the lives they live and others in the world they live hear and now, I surround myself with these people and we find happiness in caring for each other, and though some of those people believe in the Christian god of the new testament, others in Yahweh of the old testament, some in Allah, some in the Hindu gods, and others in Budhist karma, they all find security in each others friendship and caring regardless of if they believe their god or another god is real. So I say spend your spare time thinking not about if your god is real but how you can better care for and love the life you live and be more appreciative of those around you regardless of if they or you yourself believe your god is real or not.
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Is God Real? Well you can know that by your personal prayers being answered. Prayers that no one knows about but you and God. Its personal experience and revelation, meant only for you.
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Is God real? Well try proving to yourself that he is not real. It is easier to prove him real, than to prove him not real; which is proof of God.
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Is God Real?
It is real easy to prove god is not real, because God is neither seen from, heard from, or spoken to unless you believe it so, and the god I speak too, the god that hears me, and the god I see every day, is not your god. Not that mine is any better than yours or your than mine nor is yours anymore real than mine, but that really doesn't matter what does matter is the hear and now and what we do with it not what our GOD does with it be our god chooses to prove their reality or not. An in the hear and now between you and me and everyone else who has a different god than you or doesn't believe your god is real, their are two things one can do. One can belittle another by saying my god is more real or better than your god resulting in hostile reaction ranging from emotion driven hate speech, to a full driven "crusade" or "jihad" possibly resulting in a few to thousands of deaths on the basis that my god is better than yours and/or my god is more real than yours. OR! one can accept that ones god maybe real to thyself but may never be real to someone else, and be at peace with that fact and still care for the well being of that person for the betterment of oneself through the betterment of others regardless of what they believe happens with gods, after death, before life, or any other fact of life a human mind isn't able to quite yet comprehend. The only proof of god anyone has is to thyself, to others you god is not real so prove others you are real, and that you really care more about the world and people around you instead of the world of god(s).
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mar krennie
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Is God Real?
God has always been real from the begining of time when we had the sun wind rain, volcanoe and the greek, roman gods to give us comfort a higher presence is watching over us.
It may be there is a higher presence who started it all
As for religion it has its good points and bad points, the bad points is man who uses what he needs out of the bible, koran etc.
moses did it with the ten commandments. thou shalt not kill or covet thy neighbours belongings, but this starts the day after we go to jericho and slaughter every man, woman and child because god promised us it.
Another use of religion is witches ie women who used herbs to heal, drowned 1st but if they could hold their breath they were burned at the stake all for religion.
Recent history shows a group of islands during a war where the americans landed in planes and gave the locals foods of different kinds and choclate, the natives had not seen a plane before and built plane shaped objects facing out to sea when the americans left hoping they would come back, which brings me to another story Jonah and the whale which origanally states Jonah was swallowed by a big fish for so many days and nights, who is to say it wasn't a submarine and there wasn't an advanced civilisation which were wiped out by rea natural or man made catastrophe.
Another story sodam and gomorra lots wife turned back to look and turned into a pillar of salt, two ponts here turned back ie went back, pillar of salt well we would be also as that is all that would be left after a nuclear explosion.
Gives you something to think about, i stll think there is something out there but as for jesus, god, allah, the bible, the koran etc they have all been written by men who are story tellers and thats what they are a compilation of storys put together.
Hey whos to saywe dont all get wiped out and they find the lord of the rings book and start looking for zahadoom and the ring
It may be there is a higher presence who started it all
As for religion it has its good points and bad points, the bad points is man who uses what he needs out of the bible, koran etc.
moses did it with the ten commandments. thou shalt not kill or covet thy neighbours belongings, but this starts the day after we go to jericho and slaughter every man, woman and child because god promised us it.
Another use of religion is witches ie women who used herbs to heal, drowned 1st but if they could hold their breath they were burned at the stake all for religion.
Recent history shows a group of islands during a war where the americans landed in planes and gave the locals foods of different kinds and choclate, the natives had not seen a plane before and built plane shaped objects facing out to sea when the americans left hoping they would come back, which brings me to another story Jonah and the whale which origanally states Jonah was swallowed by a big fish for so many days and nights, who is to say it wasn't a submarine and there wasn't an advanced civilisation which were wiped out by rea natural or man made catastrophe.
Another story sodam and gomorra lots wife turned back to look and turned into a pillar of salt, two ponts here turned back ie went back, pillar of salt well we would be also as that is all that would be left after a nuclear explosion.
Gives you something to think about, i stll think there is something out there but as for jesus, god, allah, the bible, the koran etc they have all been written by men who are story tellers and thats what they are a compilation of storys put together.
Hey whos to saywe dont all get wiped out and they find the lord of the rings book and start looking for zahadoom and the ring
Is God Real?
Is God Real? Well we can track his realness through biblical Archaeology. Leaving " Kadesh-barnea", Moses sought passage through the mountians of " Seir", the land of the " Edomites" ( Numbers 20:14-17), One of the citys in Seir was " Selah" ( Now called Petra, the Red Rose city, half old as time), Complettely surrounded by rock mountians. The prophet Jeremiah spoke to the Edomites in 49:6. Petra today is of Nabatean style, but Archaeologist have pinpointed it. And the bible recorded it.
Stunning evidence of the bibles historical relevance, and further proof that leads to God being real.
Stunning evidence of the bibles historical relevance, and further proof that leads to God being real.
Is God Real?
In John 4:4-42 Jesus was passing through " Samaria" and confronted a woman by a well. Did you know Archaeologist have found this biblical Samaria? AND, stunningly, they have found this very well near the little village of " Sycar"; and amazingly, its still in use! Stimulating proof of Christ and biblical history.
Is God Real?
Have you heard that the " Dead Sea Scrolls" are to be published online? For all to see! What you will see is the complette book of " Isaiah", fragments of Genesis; many portions of the book of Daniel and a commentary of the book of Habakkuk. A superior stunning find and incredible evidence of the hisrorical God being real.
Is God Real?
Mickiel;1371179 wrote: Have you heard that the " Dead Sea Scrolls" are to be published online? For all to see! What you will see is the complette book of " Isaiah", fragments of Genesis; many portions of the book of Daniel and a commentary of the book of Habakkuk. A superior stunning find and incredible evidence of the hisrorical God being real.
If he's historical does that mean he is not around any more?
If he's historical does that mean he is not around any more?
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jones jones
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Is God Real?
Mickiel;1371179 wrote: Have you heard that the " Dead Sea Scrolls" are to be published online? For all to see! What you will see is the complette book of " Isaiah", fragments of Genesis; many portions of the book of Daniel and a commentary of the book of Habakkuk. A superior stunning find and incredible evidence of the hisrorical God being real.
Gimme a break Mick! The "Dead Sea Scrolls" were supposedly written by the Essenes and even that isn't a given anymore, not by some divine hand! After lying around in some caves for like a gazillion years, they are suddenly "discovered" right about the time that the new state of Israel is born! Wow some coincidence!
Sounds a bit like a convenient way to connect a "god" and a work of fiction to Israel and their right to own the land. And then they took a hell of a long time to allow the public to see these scrolls too. I wonder why? Was it perhaps to give them time to sanitize them?
Gimme a break Mick! The "Dead Sea Scrolls" were supposedly written by the Essenes and even that isn't a given anymore, not by some divine hand! After lying around in some caves for like a gazillion years, they are suddenly "discovered" right about the time that the new state of Israel is born! Wow some coincidence!
Sounds a bit like a convenient way to connect a "god" and a work of fiction to Israel and their right to own the land. And then they took a hell of a long time to allow the public to see these scrolls too. I wonder why? Was it perhaps to give them time to sanitize them?
"…I hate how I don’t feel real enough unless people are watching." — Chuck Palahniuk, Invisible Monsters
Is God Real?
jones jones;1371277 wrote: Gimme a break Mick! The "Dead Sea Scrolls" were supposedly written by the Essenes and even that isn't a given anymore, not by some divine hand! After lying around in some caves for like a gazillion years, they are suddenly "discovered" right about the time that the new state of Israel is born! Wow some coincidence!
Sounds a bit like a convenient way to connect a "god" and a work of fiction to Israel and their right to own the land. And then they took a hell of a long time to allow the public to see these scrolls too. I wonder why? Was it perhaps to give them time to sanitize them?
Are the bones of humans fiction? Caiaphas the high priest judged Christ before sending him to pilate in Matt. 26:57-68, and slapped him in the face; Archaeologist have found this mans bone box. Simon a Cyrenian was pressed into service to help Christ carry his cross to Golgotha Matt. 27:32, the Place of the Skull where he was crucified; They have this blackmans bones as well, and they found Golgotha as well. They got these biblical characthers bones man, that is not fiction.
Sounds a bit like a convenient way to connect a "god" and a work of fiction to Israel and their right to own the land. And then they took a hell of a long time to allow the public to see these scrolls too. I wonder why? Was it perhaps to give them time to sanitize them?
Are the bones of humans fiction? Caiaphas the high priest judged Christ before sending him to pilate in Matt. 26:57-68, and slapped him in the face; Archaeologist have found this mans bone box. Simon a Cyrenian was pressed into service to help Christ carry his cross to Golgotha Matt. 27:32, the Place of the Skull where he was crucified; They have this blackmans bones as well, and they found Golgotha as well. They got these biblical characthers bones man, that is not fiction.
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littleCJelkton
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Is God Real?
Mickiel;1371286 wrote: Are the bones of humans fiction? Caiaphas the high priest judged Christ before sending him to pilate in Matt. 26:57-68, and slapped him in the face; Archaeologist have found this mans bone box. Simon a Cyrenian was pressed into service to help Christ carry his cross to Golgotha Matt. 27:32, the Place of the Skull where he was crucified; They have this blackmans bones as well, and they found Golgotha as well. They got these biblical characthers bones man, that is not fiction.
has not been proven to be Caiaphas doesn't say High priest nor is his ossuary ornate for one of his status in that day nor does this prove at all that even if he was he did anything mention in the new testament. Neither is their any proof of Simon's bones either they just have the bones of a man who is the son of Simon it is unclear as to if this is the family of the biblical Simon or not and none of these bones actually prove that anything that is wrote in the bible actually existed just some of the character's in the story may have been based of real people, guess what they do that in just about every work of fiction. Guess what else they do base their character stories off of ones told previously like the ressurection tale one found in 2 older religious fable before chrisitanity, as well as the flood, and a lot of other parts of the bible are reused pieces of fiction from other religion with different characters.
has not been proven to be Caiaphas doesn't say High priest nor is his ossuary ornate for one of his status in that day nor does this prove at all that even if he was he did anything mention in the new testament. Neither is their any proof of Simon's bones either they just have the bones of a man who is the son of Simon it is unclear as to if this is the family of the biblical Simon or not and none of these bones actually prove that anything that is wrote in the bible actually existed just some of the character's in the story may have been based of real people, guess what they do that in just about every work of fiction. Guess what else they do base their character stories off of ones told previously like the ressurection tale one found in 2 older religious fable before chrisitanity, as well as the flood, and a lot of other parts of the bible are reused pieces of fiction from other religion with different characters.
Is God Real?
Is God real? Well were his servants real? We can trace that again using archaeology. Abraham was a great servant of God Heb. 11:8-9;" By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed... he sojourned in the land of promise ( Canaan), as in a strange country, dwelling in tents." Abrahams first stop in the land was at " Sichem" ( Shechem) Gen. 12:6-7. Archaeologist have found the city of Shechem. It later became a city of Refuge, Josh 20:7.
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littleCJelkton
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Is God Real?
Mickiel;1371361 wrote: Is God real? Well were his servants real? We can trace that again using archaeology. Abraham was a great servant of God Heb. 11:8-9;" By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed... he sojourned in the land of promise ( Canaan), as in a strange country, dwelling in tents." Abrahams first stop in the land was at " Sichem" ( Shechem) Gen. 12:6-7. Archaeologist have found the city of Shechem. It later became a city of Refuge, Josh 20:7.
I didn't sign up to be no ones servants
I didn't sign up to be no ones servants
Is God Real?
How can we know further that God is real, well by validating the bible, which reveals God. Research biblical archaeology. Pull up " The Nuzi Tablets" on your internet. Nuzi was a Hurrian administrative center not far from the Hurrian capital at Kirkuk in northen Iraq. The Hurrians are equivalent to the Horites in the old testament, also called Hivites and Jebusites. Excavations were carried out at Nuzi by American teams from 1925 to 1933. The major find was more than 5,000 family and administrative archives spanning six generations, ca. 1450-1350. They deal with the social, economic, religious and legal institutions of the Hurrians, which exactly match those listed in the bible. Such as:
Adoption for childless couples- Gen. 15:2
Children by proxy- Gen. 16; 21:1
Inheritence rights- Gen. 25:29
Marriage arrangements- Gen.28
Levirate marriage- Gen. 38; Duet. 25:5
Deathbed blessings- Gen. 27
Household gods- Gen. 31:14,30
Again, stunning confirmation of the bibles historical value and validity.
Adoption for childless couples- Gen. 15:2
Children by proxy- Gen. 16; 21:1
Inheritence rights- Gen. 25:29
Marriage arrangements- Gen.28
Levirate marriage- Gen. 38; Duet. 25:5
Deathbed blessings- Gen. 27
Household gods- Gen. 31:14,30
Again, stunning confirmation of the bibles historical value and validity.