Getting ready for the fall out... Panorama Special

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:11 pm

In two weeks this country will see the 4th targeted smear campaign by the BBC In a Panorama special on Nick Griffin.

The first thing worth noting Is that these are all allegations and Mr Griffin as yet has not been found guilty of any such allegation.

I pondered long and hard about posting this thread but I knew that this programme was In the making and would be aired a long time ago. I also knew that I was a likely target for some posters once this was aired.

Attack Is the best form of defence In most circumstances.

So here's the truth before you see the hatchet job on Griffin.

On Sunday the 11th September our National Organiser organised a special meeting with the BBC in the East Midlands with forty of our key members and officials present. The BBC Panorama programme makers thought that they were going there to Interrogate Griffin , using cleverly placed lighting and bullying questions about empty allegations to make him look Isolated and sinister.

But before they arrived, we dissected this latest attempt by the BBC to use recycled lies, half-truths and out-of-date factlets to smear us all. All forty of the top officials, councillors and organisers present agreed unanimously that the British National Party would not be co-operating with the BBC. Everyone agreed that no genuine nationalist would help an organisation make such hate-filled propaganda.

Even better, we decided that our fight back would start right away. We agreed to give the BBC mind-benders a taste of their own medicine! So when Darragh MacIntyre, his cameraman and producer walked into the smart hotel room, their jaws hit the floor.

When you see their faces on 'Turning the Tables on the BBC' mini documentary you'll see just how well our ambush against the BBC bullies worked. They were dumbfounded as Griffin read the statement that he had polished before they got there.

We published the statement online within the hour and, remarkably, the BBC have also put it on their own website (which is one of the few political sites with an even bigger reach than ours) so a vast number of people have seen us get in the first blow in this bruising media war.

The moment he finished his statement, our audience erupted in applause as he walked straight out of the room. Then Simon Darby took over, pummelling the speechless 'Investigators' with questions of his own about the BBC's own record of employing child rapists and sadistic murderers. All this under the pitiless glare of spotlights and TV cameras of our own. What a result!

One of the many shocking examples that our research team has uncovered was a conviction for making Indecent photographs of a child by a BBC "Match of the Day" producer.

Another BBC producer, Benjamin Wilkins, was jailed for secretly capturing footage of his sexual liaisons using a hidden camera in a smoke alarm directly above his bed. To my mind Panorama has no right going on about 'criminality' when the BBC's bosses were happy to employ these people, any many more like them, as well as the convicted murderer Leslie Grantham who played Dirty Den in the propaganda fantasy Eastenders.

These are the type of people employed by the BBC, who think that we will continue to pay our TV Licence Fee, sit and swallow their lies. Simon Darby, rightly pummelled them with this history of hypocricy.

Our press spokesman Simon Darby worked late into Sunday night to issue Freedom of Information demands to the BBC. We’re pushing for the inside BBC dirt on their criminal convictions, their decisions to attack us, and how much they've paid the traitors to take part in their hatchet job. We've really got the BBC here – if they answer, we find even more of their guilty secrets; if they refuse, they'll look even more dishonest than they do already!

We're trawling through the fine print of the BBC's accounts for details of the expenses claims of top BBC executives. Although their friends in the rest of the controlled media have kept quiet about it, there's a vast haul of material available when you know where to look – right down to their favourite posh hotels.

Remember this as you watch the BBC Panorama special which Is pre-recorded, cut, edited and pasted.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:39 pm

I have just been updated....

The BBC have apparently 'delayed' the time schedule of the release of The Panorama Special.

Having seen some of the video footage myself of Nick 'Turning turning the tables, and liking a bet, I'd be happy to wager that It will be scrapped entirely.

If It Is.... what cowards ??

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:25 am

We published the statement online within the hour and, remarkably, the BBC have also put it on their own website (which is one of the few political sites with an even bigger reach than ours) so a vast number of people have seen us get in the first blow in this bruising media war.

Not remarkably at all, it's part of their remit to report both sides which is the maion reason both political parties hate them. Thank goodness the Murdoch's have lost their political clout can you imagine how bad our news coverage would be if they got theior way and did away with the TV licence?

What's with all the BNP paranoia? You're a bunch of nasty racist idiots with only an elementary grasp of british history why not just come out about it?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:55 am

gmc;1369942 wrote: Not remarkably at all, it's part of their remit to report both sides which is the maion reason both political parties hate them. Thank goodness the Murdoch's have lost their political clout can you imagine how bad our news coverage would be if they got theior way and did away with the TV licence?

What's with all the BNP paranoia? You're a bunch of nasty racist idiots with only an elementary grasp of british history why not just come out about it?

Insult aside... It's the hypocrisy shown by the BBC.

As I understand It today. A taster of Nick filming the team as they entered the hotel room and not finding him alone as expected was posted on the website with the promise that the full video would be posted. Suddenly, the BBC wanted to 'delay' their showing of the Panorama Special should the complete video Including Simon Darby turning the tables on them not be posted. Surely, that tells you something?

Yes, the BBC may well report both sides but had Griffin not have preempted exactly what they were up to, viewers would have only ever seen a one sided programme with Griffin alone being battered by allegations.

From what I saw, when the tables were turned and Darragh MacIntyre, his cameraman and producer were battered with the truth of who exactly they employed, they seemed to sweat and even shake.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:52 am

It says a lot that the BNP have to engineer such tactics in order to defend their position.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:07 am

Bruv;1369953 wrote: It says a lot that the BNP have to engineer such tactics in order to defend their position. I don't agree...

As I said... These are allegations and we have to remember that.

On this one, I happen to agree with NG... Why should a programme go out that Is pre-recorded, edited, cut and pasted? Why should they be allowed to Interview Nick In a pre-recorded Interview that would also be cut and edited to suit them?

Why should the BBC take the moral high ground about NG's alleged criminality when they are employing child molesters?

I am very Interested In what the team Investigating the BBC's criminality record uncovers under the freedom of Information act.

Ask yourself this..... Why did the BBC suddenly change tact after they filmed Simon Darby putting the record of criminality In the BBC to the Panorama team ?

Will pm you.... I can trust you.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:14 am

oscar;1369955 wrote:

Will pm you.... I can trust you.

I can't trust myself.................

Any large company/organisation will have it's quota of neer do wells..........take for instance the British Army, Police Force, Priest hood............

Ambushing the BBC is yet another Marmite moment ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:20 am

Bruv;1369958 wrote: I can't trust myself.................

Any large company/organisation will have it's quota of neer do wells..........take for instance the British Army, Police Force, Priest hood............

Ambushing the BBC is yet another Marmite moment ?

BBC News - BBC's Peter Rowell in court on indecent assault charges

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:32 am

oscar;1369961 wrote: BBC News - BBC's Peter Rowell in court on indecent assault charges

What has he to do with the BNP ?

Or Panorama ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:42 am

Bruv;1369963 wrote: What has he to do with the BNP ?

Or Panorama ?

How can the Panorama team pre-record a programme about alleged criminality of NG when the BBC, the makers of the programme, have employed sex offenders?

It Is the moral high ground that the BBC programme makers have taken whilst the org has It's own nasty list of BBC employee's convicted of far worse.

If NG Is charged, If NG Is found guilty, then, sure, report It but the Panorama special was nothing but a hatchet job based on allegations

The mere fact that they are now delaying the prog and squirming should speak volumes. If everything they had gathered was absolutely above board, why now the sudden change of tact?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:05 am

You could say, as I tried to say, how can the Police pursue criminals when their are criminals amongst the Police, allegedly.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:14 am

Bruv;1369969 wrote: You could say, as I tried to say, how can the Police pursue criminals when their are criminals amongst the Police, allegedly.

Good point.

But... come on now... If this was any other politician and not NG, his tactics would no doubt be classed as a coup.

Like I said... If the whole Panorama Special was all above aboard with no editing and devious tactics used, why the sudden change of tact now when they were filmed after expecting to find Nick alone?

Come on... If It was any one else, you would have to doubt the motives.

We have had all manner of shocking criminality among all Party politicians. Torie's, Labour, Lib Dem consisting of anything from defrauding the tax payer to Imprisonment, ie, Archer. There have been sex scandals galore and more but did Panorama do a Special on them based purely on allegations before they were convicted? They may have reported It after they were convicted....

Oh by the way... This all comes as the BNP membership saw a sudden Increase after the riots,, NG wins the leadership challenge and he's about to go for re-election for the European Parliament.... hmmmmmmmmmmm

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:09 pm

It's the 75th anniversary of the battle of cable street next month. Planning any special celebrations?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:41 pm

gmc;1369974 wrote: It's the 75th anniversary of the battle of cable street next month. Planning any special celebrations?

No.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:38 am

Didn't think so. :sneaky:

I imagine griffin would have flounced out the room rather than walked. He looks like somebody built for flouncing.

http://www.heretical.com/British/mosley2.html

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:38 am

gmc;1370329 wrote: Didn't think so. :sneaky:

I imagine griffin would have flounced out the room rather than walked. He looks like somebody built for flouncing.

Oswald Mosley in Scotland with a Short History of the Blackshirts

Nick's lost some weight and looks far better for It and does not flounce.

Alex Salmond Is a Flouncer and carries a handbag comapred to NG.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:59 am

oscar;1370331 wrote: Nick's lost some weight and looks far better for It and does not flounce.

Alex Salmond Is a Flouncer and carries a handbag comapred to NG.

I have always thought Nick slithers or sidles rather than flounces.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:38 am

Bruv;1370336 wrote: I have always thought Nick slithers or sidles rather than flounces.

Nick Is a strutter and he always smell nice

Alex Salmond Positively minces compared to Nick.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:33 am

oscar;1370342 wrote: Nick Is a strutter and he always smell nice

Straight legged high struts ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:38 am

Bruv;1370358 wrote: Straight legged high struts ?

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Now that is funny !!!

Yeah and with one arm held outstretched. :yh_rotfl

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:40 am

oscar;1370360 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Now that is funny !!!

Yeah and with one arm held outstretched. :yh_rotfl

I trying to be subtle.............

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:41 am

Bruv;1370362 wrote: I trying to be subtle.............
Good one but now we need to sit back for 6 hours while gmc wonders what you meant.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:44 pm

I just hope you are a dupe of these evil bastards. I've told you what they are and provided plenty of evidence which you have ignored. I hope it's stupidity not evil intent. Liquefied dog poo and a desire for mass murder. That's the BNP.

Ghods. Our parents and grandparents fought to destroy this evil and here you are cultivating it in England.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:18 pm

Clodhopper;1370391 wrote: I just hope you are a dupe of these evil bastards. I've told you what they are and provided plenty of evidence which you have ignored. I hope it's stupidity not evil intent. Liquefied dog poo and a desire for mass murder. That's the BNP.

Ghods. Our parents and grandparents fought to destroy this evil and here you are cultivating it in England.

You never learn do you ?

Provided me with plenty evidence? What? Regurgitated, heavilly edited you clips from 25 years ago ?

And you are the saviour are you? You sanctimonious, patronising little twerp who knows feck all.

Many people are against the BNP but at least they have some knowledge on the subject. You had never even heard of the UAF until I posted about them on this forum just over a year ago. So excuse me, If I laugh at your pitiful attempts as the oracle of politics.

You called myself and Nick Griffin a liar on this forum two years ago when I told you that Asian gangs of peadophile's were grooming young white children.

Now, a senior Police officer has gone public stating that Griffin was right all along and In fact been going on for ten years.

I am quite happy to post the links for the convictions should your head still be stuck up your backside.

Only this week after a case collapsed due to witness tampering, the court ordered a re-trial Into another gang.

I have also provided you with plenty of evidence but your head Is stuck so far up your arsse, you can't see It.

Have you ever met Griffn, Brons or any of the key figures or spent time with them ?

How many conferences have you attended?

How many rallies have you attended?

How many local branch meetings have you attended?

You talk about what our Fathers and Grandfathers fought for. Go to a branch meeting and actually see for yourself the amount of war Vets there wanting the country they fought for.

You know what, In my official party capacity and position, I can set up new branches so I will check out If we have one In Kingstone-Upon-Thames and If there Is no organiser there at present, I will appoint one....

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:32 pm

I haven't spent time with Hitler, but I know he was evil. Same with Griffin.

What is your official party capacity and position?

Seems the dog poo and desire for mass murder comment touched a nerve. So it should.

Are you against all Jews or just Israel?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:48 pm

Clodhopper;1370417 wrote: I haven't spent time with Hitler, but I know he was evil. Same with Griffin.

What is your official party capacity and position?

Seems the dog poo and desire for mass murder comment touched a nerve. So it should.

Are you against all Jews or just Israel? So, lets get this straight then... You have never met NG or AB or any key figure? You have never been to a branch meeting? You have never been to a conference? You have never been to a rally or open day?

I guess that just leaves the source of your Information as some drinking buddy down the local boozer?

Let me entertain you for a short while and humour you.

Where Is your evidence of this alleged dog poo Incident?

I have no desire to flaunt my position In the party on this forum however, I do have evidence should anyone here doubt It.

Or what Clod ? Did you think the nasty big boys had got to me ?.... PMSL

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:29 pm

Is there room in this thread for another voice ?

The BNP has a history of racism, no denying that.

There present leaders are have been exposed as racists, only recently changing membership rules to comply with the law of the land they profess to love.

There is widespread concern across the country in these times of financial belt tightening that the country needs less outsiders, be they European or the more recognisable blacks.

Other political parties are restrained by political correctness, whereas the BNP have nothing to loose by shooting from the hip.

Their policies are close to what many people would like to see happen here.

The return to so called old fashioned values, England for the English, repatriate all the nasty evil foreigners back to where they come from in order to solve ALL our problems.

The nasty foreigners ARE the problem......so says the BNP, and for the simple minded 2 plus 2 equals send em home.

To my mind the BNP parallels the rise of the Nazis, the population is carried along because they feel they are hard done by, oppressed, patriotism is the return to the good old days, the hard times arrived as the population changed......so change it back.....sorted.

The BNP's public face hides a hidden undercurrent hardcore element that has not changed from way back. the only thing that has altered is the PR.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:38 pm

As I said, I don't need to have met Hitler to know he was evil. Ditto Griffin.

You neither entertain nor humour.

Dog poo and desire for mass murder. For the third time. BNP Exposed - The Secret Agent BBC part 1 of 7 - YouTube

I would say your position in the Party is a matter of deep shame and I'm not surprised you don't want to state it publicly.

Don't suppose you'd care to answer my last question: Are you against all Jews or just Israel?

Or what Clod ? Did you think the nasty big boys had got to me ?.... PMSL Is that meant to be a reply to my question about your attitude to Jews?

I do notice your technique is not to answer the question, but to mock a reply you wish I'd made but didn't. It has been from the first time we argued. Interesting and informative.

I hope all BNP members are as clever as you.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:44 pm

Bruv;1370431 wrote: Is there room in this thread for another voice ?

The BNP has a history of racism, no denying that.

There present leaders are have been exposed as racists, only recently changing membership rules to comply with the law of the land they profess to love.

There is widespread concern across the country in these times of financial belt tightening that the country needs less outsiders, be they European or the more recognisable blacks.

Other political parties are restrained by political correctness, whereas the BNP have nothing to loose by shooting from the hip.

Their policies are close to what many people would like to see happen here.

The return to so called old fashioned values, England for the English, repatriate all the nasty evil foreigners back to where they come from in order to solve ALL our problems.

The nasty foreigners ARE the problem......so says the BNP, and for the simple minded 2 plus 2 equals send em home.

To my mind the BNP parallels the rise of the Nazis, the population is carried along because they feel they are hard done by, oppressed, patriotism is the return to the good old days, the hard times arrived as the population changed......so change it back.....sorted.

The BNP's public face hides a hidden undercurrent hardcore element that has not changed from way back. the only thing that has altered is the PR.

Now that Is a blinding post with sensible opinions and objectives.

The changing of the party constitution was because Harriot Harmen amended the Equalities Bill so that the constitution was Illegal. The desire was simple... She believed NG would take It all the way to the House of Lords, using party funds thus bankrupting the Party leaving the BNP financially unable to stand candidates In the 2010 General.

NG simply changed the constitution. Out witted, Harmen then amended the Bill once again. Once again NG changed It. In fact, I believe I am right In saying that Arthur Kemp who Is South African wrote the new constitution.

This Is Harriot Harmen who funds and supports the UAF and by proxy Is responsible for this:

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | BNP member attacked with hammer

The attacker was convicted and Is a member and was acting for the UAF.

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:03 pm

Is there room in this thread for another voice ?

Yes. This concerns everyone in our country.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:15 pm

Clodhopper;1370439 wrote: Yes. This concerns everyone in our country.

BNP Jewish win | www.somethingjewish.co.uk

I've finished humouring you now.

I just have this Image of you and your source of Information.

Harry Enfield - Oi! Wales! No! - YouTube

Clodhopper · Post by **Clodhopper** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:42 pm

Ah, I wondered when you'd choose to use this. Remember I have the list of the BNP membership of a few years ago? Chuckle.

People are often stupid. Did you know Jews joined the Nazis in the early days? When they presented themselves as a patriotic party concerned about the injustices Germany had suffered after Versailles? (Do you know what Versailles is?)

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:29 am

oscar;1370437 wrote: Now that Is a blinding post with sensible opinions and objectives.

Thank you, but I still think Nick is a chancer and the BNP and it's followers are misguided and easily impressed people.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:55 am

Tomorrow belongs to me? - YouTube

:sneaky:

Well you see the worldwide banking conspiracy has ruined all the worlds economies and when the peasants start rioting on the streets they can bring in the army and suspend the legal system. We already have David Cameron talking about doing away with human rights legislation much of the inspiration for which came from the UK - and preventing judges from overruling the home secretary when he wants to throw people in jail. Tony Blair Tony Blair was the first peacetime prime minister to curtail the right to habeas corpus. -

I could really get in to this conspiracy stuff. Compared to oswald mosely griffin and the rest of the BNP are mental midgets to say the least. He had a bit more to offer than knee jerk let's blame all the immigrants, hang on isn't that the line the rtories used to peddle or is it just single mothers they like to blame. (note to self, read daily mail to get at the truth)

Maciej Dakowicz 'Cardiff After Dark' binge-drinking images turned Britain into laughing stock | Mail Online

It's the WELSH!!! or probably the english students attending cardiff uni.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:46 am

The Video Is out and posted In It's full embarrassment to the Panorama team>

BBC Gets a Taste of Its Own Medicine -*British National Party - YouTube

Hail Simon Darby

:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:48 pm

BBC video goes viral | British National Party

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:47 pm

BBC News - Viewpoint: What are BNP supporters really like?

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:34 pm

This thread is like the average BNP public meeting..........a few people pop in.......see bugger all of any interest and go.

The speakers voice echoing in the near empty hall.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Bruv;1371309 wrote: This thread is like the average BNP public meeting..........a few people pop in.......see bugger all of any interest and go.

The speakers voice echoing in the near empty hall.

Have you ever been to a BNP meeting?:wah:

Still... Plenty more than a Lib Dem Conference.... Clegg and his one friend.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:49 am

Open letter to BBC Director General Mark Thompson from Nick Griffin | British National Party

:yh_clap:yh_clap:yh_clap:yh_clap:yh_clap

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:14 am

Panorama

In full... The allegations and NG's replies...

Now It has become clear to all of us where the Panorama team got these allegations and from who, It absolutely beggars belief that former disgruntled figures with an axe to grind at NG can make allegations with not a scrap of evidence to support them.

What Is even more scandalous, Is that the BBC and the Panorama team would actually make a TV programme without asking to see any evidence. How the hell can they do that?

There Is no evidence... I know that... we all know that yet the programme makers without Insisting on evidence have based a cut, edited and pasted so called documentary on lie's...

Unfreakin believable.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:31 pm

Anybody that starts with the following........

Dear Fellow Nationalist, the British National Party is being subjected to an unprecedented campaign of lies and half-truths, court actions and sabotage to prevent it from saving our people and our country.

has lost me already.................the sheer arrogance.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:01 pm

Bruv;1372126 wrote: Anybody that starts with the following........

has lost me already.................the sheer arrogance.

I have to admit... I cringed at that :wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:34 pm

The Panorama special was screened tonight.

No evidence and allegations from former key figures.

Co-Incidence that the key members making the allegations all went on to form the new group 'Britain First' last year. Something that would have cost them thousands. Where did that money come from? Hmmmm It stinks !!!!

As for the final shot of the BBC being apparently assaulted by BNP body guards... I have seen the full evidence and the clips shown by Panorama were heavilly edited to suit. The few seconds were an apparent assault took place showed no assault... just the words spoken 'That's assault'... It could have been anyone anywhere.... Still, what we expected from the devious scum bags.

Bruv · Post by **Bruv** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:05 pm

oscar;1372240 wrote: Still, what we expected from the devious scum bags.

Who you talking about ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:11 am

Bruv;1372242 wrote: Who you talking about ?
The Panorama team.

The brief seconds shown of them leaving the hotel where It was said 'That's assault' showed no assault taking place. It was a few seconds of a fuzzy shot of the ground which could have been anywhere and anyone and any time. Of course they added that they were forcibly ejected from the hotel by BNP thugs for good measure to mislead the public.

Bollocks.... That never happened. When the 3 from the Panorama team left the hotel, the BNP stayed In the hotel room and that can be clearly seen by the footage on the BNP website. Lying scumbags !!!