Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Theme song for Israeli bulldozers as they continue to defy international law.

Netanyahu defends settlement after U.S. criticism | Reuters

Another one bites the dust.

littleCJelkton · Post by **littleCJelkton** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:50 pm

Is this the Rollin Rollin Rollin from Rawhide, or the Limp Bizkit song? I guess either would fit.

koan · Post by **koan** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:55 pm

was what I heard in my head but

is actually more appropriate.

not forgetting

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:02 am

Is it just me or has this been a long time of "We're mad and we're not gonna take it anymore... next time we'll tell you how mad we are... and we'll be madder."

I think it's about time the world declare Palestine a legitimate country and declare the borders of the original Balfour Declaration and arrest any Israelis in Palestine without documentation.

littleCJelkton · Post by **littleCJelkton** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:48 am

Even so there is still going to be that 1000's of years hatered towards jews. and the fact that some palistinians and the Iranian, Syrian, ect.., defactor groups in such think Israel shouldn't even be a country. So I think they will continue to shell out rockets mortors at Jerusalem even if boders are drawn, and consequently Jerusalem will retaliate enter palistine and declare they do so for the protection of the country of jerusalem

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:51 am

I think one of the blocks to setting things right is the projection of ideas on what will happen in the future. To me it's more an issue of looking to who has done what in the past.

Palestine's biggest mistake might have been to offer amnesty to Jews during times of war. Hard to blame them now for being too nice in the past. If this was happening to America it wouldn't have gone so far.

littleCJelkton · Post by **littleCJelkton** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:04 am

koan;1350320 wrote: I think one of the blocks to setting things right is the projection of ideas on what will happen in the future. To me it's more an issue of looking to who has done what in the past.

Palestine's biggest mistake might have been to offer amnesty to Jews during times of war. Hard to blame them now for being too nice in the past. If this was happening to America it wouldn't have gone so far.

Well if it the projection of Ideas on what will happen in the future. It might have gone that far in America. We are real poor at seeing, reacting, projecting, and or caring about what will happen in the future take a look at the last couple econmic debacles, the failure to see that drilling Oil off the coast of a highly populated area was a bad Idea, having poorly build and maintained levies around a town built below see level when it is about to be hit by a hurricane is a bad idea, over reacting to the idea there might be weapons of mass destruction and going to war instead of finding out if there are weapons, not adhearing to a memo clearly hinting to the possiblity of an attack conducted by Osama Bin Laden. Americans have gotten pretty poor at predicting things have you herd meteoroligist lately.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:07 am

Well just keep your hands off the underwater oil possibilities in norther oceans and we'll get along fine.

Meanwhile.... Israelis with less nuclear weapons and adherence to international standards of behaviour in occupied territories might be a good common cause. And the Palestinians are kind of ready for having their own state.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:27 pm

koan;1350306 wrote: Is it just me or has this been a long time of "We're mad and we're not gonna take it anymore... next time we'll tell you how mad we are... and we'll be madder."

I think it's about time the world declare Palestine a legitimate country and declare the borders of the original Balfour Declaration and arrest any Israelis in Palestine without documentation.

Well said! The current situation cannot continue

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:39 pm

littleCJelkton;1350318 wrote: Even so there is still going to be that 1000's of years hatered towards jews. and the fact that some palistinians and the Iranian, Syrian, ect.., defactor groups in such think Israel shouldn't even be a country. So I think they will continue to shell out rockets mortors at Jerusalem even if boders are drawn, and consequently Jerusalem will retaliate enter palistine and declare they do so for the protection of the country of jerusalem

According to the original borders Jerusalem is a tripartite city which is why Tel Aviv was the capital of Israel.

Go back to the original borders and the city itself will be safe. The Palestinians have shown throughout the negotiations that they recognise the de facto existence of Israel and are willing to accept a two state solution to the problem.

Go back to the original borders and they'd be overjoyed - no chance of them rocking the boat for fear of loosing it again. It would be the Israelis who would be complaining.

koan · Post by **koan** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:36 pm

Yeah. I think they've abused their power for so long, in so many ways that they've lost their right to claim more than the original allotment. And any illegal dwellings developed on occupied territory should be considered property of Palestine. Destruction of Palestinian property to be considered illegal with fines to cover the cost of damaged property if the Israelis tear it down before they leave.