The De ja vu of Destiny.

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You wake up one day, you live that day out, and it seems just like the day before. You meet a new girl in your life, and eventualy she seems just like the one you had before. One job seems to be like another you had, one experience seems to be simular to another you already had before. You ever felt like that?

To go to a complettely new city, all the people whom youv'e never ever met before. New culture, new location, different skin than yours, different hair and customs, but yet, after awhile, they seem just like the people you left behind.

Year after year passes, new technology, new science, new toys and games. New knowledge and new clothes, and yet, eventually all those things begin to wear on you and nothing seems to be really different under the Sun. You yourself age and grow, your body changes, your awareness changes, your job changes, your relations change, your beliefs change: then you sit yourself down and think about it all, and you wonder IF anything has really changed? The excitement of change becomes a bore, its as if youv'e seen it all before, yet you know you haven't.

Something in your consciousness is bothering you, its as if it seems that life is a preplanned thing, like a watch wound up and is just ticking its time away and its nothing you can do to turn the clock back.

You make mistakes that you know you made before, and yet you keep making them over, and over and over again, as if your trapped into them. You learn from some, and yet others seem to have a life of their own.

This is the " De ja vu of destiny."

And I want to go into this most intresting phenom.

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Here we go again. :yh_ttth
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Ahso!;1346109 wrote: Here we go again. :yh_ttth




The response" Here we go again", is simular to what I am discussing, there is destiny in " Here we go again." Its De ja vu , the same experience comming at you, it may have on different clothes , it may have a different label, it may smell different and be in a different year, but yet at its root, its the same thing.

The same old thing in new wrappings.

So I want to examine why this is.

Peace.
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Mickiel;1346107 wrote: You wake up one day, you live that day out, and it seems just like the day before. You meet a new girl in your life, and eventualy she seems just like the one you had before. One job seems to be like another you had, one experience seems to be simular to another you already had before. You ever felt like that?

To go to a complettely new city, all the people whom youv'e never ever met before. New culture, new location, different skin than yours, different hair and customs, but yet, after awhile, they seem just like the people you left behind.

Year after year passes, new technology, new science, new toys and games. New knowledge and new clothes, and yet, eventually all those things begin to wear on you and nothing seems to be really different under the Sun. You yourself age and grow, your body changes, your awareness changes, your job changes, your relations change, your beliefs change: then you sit yourself down and think about it all, and you wonder IF anything has really changed? The excitement of change becomes a bore, its as if youv'e seen it all before, yet you know you haven't.

Something in your consciousness is bothering you, its as if it seems that life is a preplanned thing, like a watch wound up and is just ticking its time away and its nothing you can do to turn the clock back.

You make mistakes that you know you made before, and yet you keep making them over, and over and over again, as if your trapped into them. You learn from some, and yet others seem to have a life of their own.

This is the " De ja vu of destiny."

And I want to go into this most intresting phenom.

Peace.


Interesting phenom?------------perhaps for you Mickiel------------I disagree with your entire post and if things never really change for you and everything is a repeat of the past, I feel sorry for you.
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Lon;1346111 wrote: Interesting phenom?------------perhaps for you Mickiel------------I disagree with your entire post and if things never really change for you and everything is a repeat of the past, I feel sorry for you.




Well I am accustomed to others feeling sorry for me, their feelings have absolutely nothing to do with my points, my understanding or my destiny. But I appriciate the feeling anyway.

Things have changed for me my entire life, but I notice within the change, not much change at all. I remember making 2.50 an hour, and I remember making 17.00 an hour. I once thought that the more money you made, the more different things will be, it will change things. And it did, somewhat, but I noticed within the change, no change at all. Life was still the same no matter how much money I made.

And I want to go into that.

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Mickiel;1346112 wrote: Well I am accustomed to others feeling sorry for me, their feelings have absolutely nothing to do with my points, my understanding or my destiny. But I appriciate the feeling anyway.

Things have changed for me my entire life, but I notice within the change, not much change at all. I remember making 2.50 an hour, and I remember making 17.00 an hour. I once thought that the more money you made, the more different things will be, it will change things. And it did, somewhat, but I noticed within the change, no change at all. Life was still the same no matter how much money I made.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.


There was no change at all because though the money amount changed--YOU DID NOT----Real change is within---------not extrinsic.
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The De ja vu of destiny is like a circle cycle, it runs its course and eventually runs back into itself! You think its going somewhere new and it just runs back into you. How new are you? How new is humanity? How new is foolishness and pain? How new is troubles and suffering? How new is science and technology, how new is religion?

How new is new?

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I actually have a few memories of when I was five years old. Still there in my consciousness. That was 50 years ago, I still have two legs and arms, still have two eyes and hands, still have the same body, but its just bigger and older. The world is still here, it looks different, but in many ways I am finding its still the same. Still predujice, still violence, still killings and still peace in some places. Still religions and still Atheist. There is still food and water, still animals and still Love.

I often wonder if destiny is a changing thing, or a constant thing?

So I want to go into just what " Destiny is."

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Destiny is the predetermined course of events, unavoidable fate; Ones fortune in life. Is there a power or agency which determines these courses of events, or is it just chance and happenstance luck? Is human life intended, or just an unexplained miracle? Has our history been rehearsed or has it simply been the unfolding of nothing into something? Is the concept of destiny destitute within itself, or is there an unknown to it?

And I want to examine some of these.

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I believe life itself was destined and produced by the " Being of Life", that being is God. God is Life, he is Destiny, he IS eternity, he IS time. All these things he gave birth to from inside of him, brought them out of him, and now they exist because of him. God NEVER existed " Outside of Time", that is incorrect interpitation, time existed " Within him", and he simply brought it out of himself, as he did eternity. This is how destiny came to be.

And I want to explain that.

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Have you considered using the Blog feature for your speeches, Mickey? If not, may I suggest it, nobody will bother you there.
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Ahso!;1346167 wrote: Have you considered using the Blog feature for your speeches, Mickey? If not, may I suggest it, nobody will bother you there.




I am not bothered, but let me examine another intent I sense in your request. Its really suggesting, " Go Away", leave this place to you and your views. I would like to stay, if you don't mind. Not that its up to you, but obviously my presence here is something perhaps you do not like. May I suggest that you mount a crusade to get me banned!

I have enjoyed your views and debate, it is unfortunate that you do not feel the same toward me. Perhaps I have more in me that seeks to come out than you, I don't know, but I would never suggest that you leave. I suggest that you speak more.

After all, its our destiny.

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No, I wasn't suggesting you leave. I thought blogging would suit you more, that's all.
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Ahso!;1346169 wrote: No, I wasn't suggesting you leave. I thought blogging would suit you more, that's all.


I take no thoughts of what would suit you more, I hold no intrest in controlling you or advising you, such is not my place. You suggest that I don't want to be " Bothered", that is a dynamic that is soley up to me, not you. I am not bothered, even when disrespected. I am at times irritated by others who resort to name calling and other useless behavior, but I know how to handle that.

I prefer interaction to blogging. But I do not mind sharing.

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I wasn't sure whether or not you knew you had the option.
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Ahso!;1346172 wrote: I wasn't sure whether or not you knew you had the option.




I am aware of the option, as I am aware of " Other things". I am aware of WHY others request certain things of me.

I repeat, I prefer interaction to blogging.

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The De ja vu of destiny brings with it the conotation of " There is nothing new under the Sun." Life is being played out according to a planned destiny, of which nothing can alter it, that same " Nothing" couldnot have started it, and it willnot end up being " Nothing." Many are willing to give their destiny to this " nothing." Even give their orgin to the nothing. Destiny cannot be " Nothing from nothing leaves Nothing", in order for there to be such a thing as destiny, there must always be " Something."

Something that was here before humanity, which has given us a destiny, a future. Future cannot come from nothing, there is no future in nothing. We exist, therefore this nothing can be ruled out, there is something, because there is destiny.

And I want to go into that.

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Mickiel;1346116 wrote: I actually have a few memories of when I was five years old. Still there in my consciousness. That was 50 years ago, I still have two legs and arms, still have two eyes and hands, still have the same body, but its just bigger and older. The world is still here, it looks different, but in many ways I am finding its still the same. Still predujice, still violence, still killings and still peace in some places. Still religions and still Atheist. There is still food and water, still animals and still Love.

I often wonder if destiny is a changing thing, or a constant thing?

So I want to go into just what " Destiny is."

Peace.


Do you ever wonder what terrible thing our bodies are preparing us to face by growing ear hairs while at the same time removing it from the top of the head. This mean,s I think god, either knows something we don't or has a wicked sense of humour.

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I am not bothered, but let me examine another intent I sense in your request. Its really suggesting, " Go Away", leave this place to you and your views. I would like to stay, if you don't mind. Not that its up to you, but obviously my presence here is something perhaps you do not like. May I suggest that you mount a crusade to get me banned!


It would be a very boring forum indeed if we all agreed with each other. i enjoy your posts, don't agree with many of them but then I would be surprised if you agree with all of mine if indeed any of them. It's hard not to tease though.

I don't believe in destiny and neither do I want to. If life isn't what you make of it then we are little better than rats is a maze in some kind of cosmic laboratory with all the paths laid out before us.
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gmc;1346198 wrote: Do you ever wonder what terrible thing our bodies are preparing us to face by growing ear hairs while at the same time removing it from the top of the head. This means think god either knows something we donlt ior has a wicked sense of humour.

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It would be a very boring forum indeed if we all agreed with each other. i enjoy your posts, don't agree with many of them but then I would be surprised if you agree with all of mine if indeed any of them. It's hard not to tease though.

I don't believe in destiny and neither do I want to. If life isn't what you make of it then we are little better than rats is a maze in some kind of cosmic laboratory with all the paths laid out before us.




well I have enjoyed your post as well. I do believe in destiny, and I think it exist wether one believes in it or not, its just something bigger than us all, but " Its Something." I do not believe in nothing and don't want to. I understand the " Need to insult or belittle belief in God", but I am convinced of " The something, and I reject the nothing." I believe in destiny, in our future and in the existence of power far greater than man or nature.

We are something, we are somebody, we exist, and these facts have been continually repeated in history, that is a De ja Vu fact.

And I want to continue on that.

Peace.
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Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana!Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana!

Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick!

GUN!

Thats all I am going to say.
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Mickiel;1346200 wrote: well I have enjoyed your post as well. I do believe in destiny, and I think it exist wether one believes in it or not, its just something bigger than us all, but " Its Something." I do not believe in nothing and don't want to. I understand the " Need to insult or belittle belief in God", but I am convinced of " The something, and I reject the nothing." I believe in destiny, in our future and in the existence of power far greater than man or nature.

We are something, we are somebody, we exist, and these facts have been continually repeated in history, that is a De ja Vu fact.

And I want to continue on that.

Peace.


It's not belief in god that is insulted or belittled per se but rather the insane religious belief that goes with it. the logic is kind of - I believe in one god, you don't belief in the same god (spot the logic drift) or worship the correct way you are a heretic and I'm going to make you believe as I do because god is talking to me. Religion always has been and perhaps always will be about power on earth.
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littleCJelkton;1346220 wrote: Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana!Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana! Banana!

Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick! Pointed Stick!

GUN!

Thats all I am going to say.




Well at least you understand yourself.

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I post threads in many places, most of them in places where the people don't believe a word I am saying. Its an interesting dynamic, but it obviously is part of my destiny. To interact with those who totally disagree with me. If I controlled my own destiny, I would have it be different, but I do not.

And I want to explain that.

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