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SICKNESS CONTROL 101: FLUORIDE, THE LUNATIC DRUG

"TELL A LIE LOUD ENOUGH AND LONG ENOUGH AND PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT."

(Adolph Hitler)

"EARTH IS AN INSANE ASYLUM, TO WHICH THE OTHER PLANETS DEPORT THEIR

LUNATICS." --Voltaire (Memnon the Philosopher).

Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC

(FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl

FLUoride).

Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of

aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics,

hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It`s historically

been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries

with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically

insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup,

injecting it into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.

Yes, a 20,000% markup: Fluoride-- intended only for human consumption by

people under 14 years of age--is injected into our drinking water supply at

approx. 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink 1/2 of one

percent of the total water supply, the rest literally goes down the drain

as a free hazardous-waste disposal for the chemical industry, where we PAY

them so that we can flush their expensive hazardous waste down our toilets.

How many salesmen dream of such a deal? (Follow the money.)

Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50

years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes

cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken

hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one

package. There are reports of aluminum in the brain possibly being a

causative factor in Alzheimer`s Disease, and evidence points towards

fluoride`s strong affinity for aluminum and also its ability to "trick" the

blood-brain barrier by looking like the hydrogen ion, and thus allowing

chemical access to brain tissue.

Scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on this mega-bucks PR

ploy have consistently been given a very unscientific Black-PR treatment,

and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never

arrive in the press. Follow the money to find the control. In 1952 the

slick PR campaign which ramrodded the concept of fluoridation through via

our Public Health departments and various dental organizations was likened

to a highly-emotional "beer-salesman`s convention" instead of the objective

scientific experiment which it should properly have been. It`s continued in

that vein right up to present time. To illustrate the emotional vs. the

scientific nature of this issue, just look at the response given by people

(perhaps yourself included?) when the subject of fluoridation comes up. Ask

yourself, "Is this response EMOTIONAL BLUSTER, or is it UNBIASED AND

OPENLY- INTERESTED OBJECTIVITY?"

Many truly independent (unattached to any

vested-interest) scientists who`ve spent a large portion of their lives

studying and working with this subject have been subjected to a surprising

amount of uncalled-for and unfair character assassination from strong

vested- interest groups who profit from the public`s ignorance as well as

from their illnesses. (Follow the money.)
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Do you have diabetes or kidney disease? There are reportedly more than 11

million Americans with diabetes. Since many diabetics drink more liquids

than other people, then according to the Physicians Desk Reference these 11

million Americans probably shouldn`t drink fluoridated water, because in

doing so, they`ll receive an excessive dose of fluoride.

Kidney disease, by definition, lowers the efficiency of the kidneys, which

is your main route of fluoride elimination. --So those people with kidney

disease also shouldn`t drink fluoridated water. Cases are on record

(Annapolis, Maryland, 1979) where kidney patients on dialysis machines

died, due to a fluoride overdose in the city water supply. Let`s begin at

the beginning:

The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in

Germany`s Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about

fluoride`s supposed effect on children`s teeth; their alleged reason for

mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and

force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref.

book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)



The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional

Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins,

a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation

regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation,

to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England

from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930`s, Hitler and

the German Nazi`s envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a

Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very

ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and

adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the

population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water

supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas,

reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in

women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied

a prominent place. ...
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"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce

an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and

narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the

will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children`s

teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could

be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real

purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses

to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German

General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and

military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control

through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because

it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official

of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the

Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and

sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years` research into the

chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person

who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more

will never again be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E.

PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.
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Quoting Einstein`s nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also been a

prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror,

Springfield, MA, January 1952:

"It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the `next` on the

agenda of the water poisoners.

"There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless `intellectual`

parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more

extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true

objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic--from

within if they can, according to their plan--for their own possession. "The

tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy

the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds

towards their own ultimate victory over us.

"Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most

subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration. ...

"As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22

years, 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on

my years of practical experience in the health-food and chemical field, let

me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national

suicide. Don`t do it.

"Even in small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no

effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the

most efficient rat-killer. ... Sodium fluoride is entirely different from

organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by

nature, in God`s great providence and love, to build and strengthen our

bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from

proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable

by the human body, whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in

fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble.

The body refuses to assimilate it. "Careful, bonafide laboratory

experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual

medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or

promoting `dental health,` fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth,

before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other

pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also

creates many other very grave pathological conditions in the internal

organisms of bodies consuming it. How can it be called a "health" plan?

What`s behind it?

"That any so-called "doctors" would persuade a civilized nation to add

voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable.

It is the height of criminal

insanity. "No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939

to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin`s Last Will and Hitler`s Mein Kampf:

"America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within." ...

"Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of

water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other

countries. Sodium fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most

effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no

antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats.

.................

"Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick

national liquidation. It is criminal insanity--treason!" Dr. E.H. Bronner,

Mfg. Research Chemist, Los Angeles.
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"I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young

Communist League, from May 2, 1936, to October 9, 1939. During this period

of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats with number 18-B-2. My

testimony before the Government is in Volume 9 of the Un-American

Activities Report for 1939.

"While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist training

schools in New York and Wisconsin ... and we were trained in the

revolutionary overthrow of the U.S. Government. "... We discussed quite

thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in

Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school

felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would

bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation, where it could keep the

general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also

discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water

reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it

would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and

either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that

they would surrender to obtain fresh water.

Fluoride - The Lunatic Drug
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Well, the fluoridation campaign started when I was a teen.

I know that family members who lived in areas where there was no fluoridation in those years now have fewer teeth than I and my siblings do.

In fact my parents generation were almost 100% using false teeth by the time they were my age, and I am only missing a couple that were lost in my rabble-rousing days.

My dental hygienist credits fluoridation to my dental health.

As for my mental health, I leave that to others, but, I am at least as sane as you are.
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LarsMac;1345739 wrote: Well, the fluoridation campaign started when I was a teen.

I know that family members who lived in areas where there was no fluoridation in those years now have fewer teeth than I and my siblings do.

In fact my parents generation were almost 100% using false teeth by the time they were my age, and I am only missing a couple that were lost in my rabble-rousing days.

My dental hygienist credits fluoridation to my dental health.

As for my mental health, I leave that to others, but, I am at least as sane as you are.


Whatever happened to toothpaste?
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I'm with LarsMac on this Fluoride in the drink water had dramatically cute down on cavities since it was started. My generation and our kids born in the late 60's didn't have Fluoride and I can tell you from first hand experience my teeth suffered because of it any dentist will tell you this as well. I have spent a small fortune trying to save my teeth as well has my daughters teeth over the years.

If we would have had Fluoride back them it wouldn't be a problem. My nieces, grand daughter and all their friend have beautiful teeth and not one cavity brushing only does so much, fluoride has saved their teeth that simple.
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TruthBringer;1345766 wrote: Whatever happened to toothpaste?


So Fluoride in Toothpaste is OK, but not in the drinking water?
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Everyone knows that fluoridation is a communist plot (by the Russians). That's why we should only drink grain alcohol or rain water. They are trying to pollute our essence! ;)
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Well, there may be something to the idea that fluoridation causes mental illness.

That would explain the election results in the last couple of decades.
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Well all I know is that with fluoride in the water we are only drinking it not brushing our teeth with it. And with toothpaste we are actually applying it to our teeth and then spitting the majority of it out (because to swallow toothpaste can be poisonous), and that is directly related to the fluoride contained in it.
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I've known people who have eaten tubes of toothpaste and they're still alive, TB.
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Ahso!;1345839 wrote: I've known people who have eaten tubes of toothpaste and they're still alive, TB.


What type of people would eat tubes of toothpaste Ahso?
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Kathy Ellen;1345886 wrote: What type of people would eat tubes of toothpaste Ahso?Type? That would be the tubes of toothpaste eating type, I suppose.
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There is enough fluoride in fluoride toothpaste to harm a small child.

There is even a warning on the tube and carton. And children are the toothpaste eating type.

However, by the time they are old enough to know better, they are big enough that it won't cause harm.

Moral: Don't leave your toddlers alone with the toothpaste.
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I feel a lot safer drinking from the water supply with fluoride in it than without as fewer bugs survive.
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Personally I'm not a fan of flouride and I get the toothpaste withought it (EXTREMELY hard to find!) I do think that the smallest smallest amounts may help (killing bugs as stated) but if it's not closely monitored (as I doubt it is in the states) well is there any reason there seems more people with osteoperosiss after having flouride in there systems for so many years that it starts to wreak havoc



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Biyu;1386351 wrote: Personally I'm not a fan of flouride and I get the toothpaste withought it (EXTREMELY hard to find!) I do think that the smallest smallest amounts may help (killing bugs as stated) but if it's not closely monitored (as I doubt it is in the states) well is there any reason there seems more people with osteoperosiss after having flouride in there systems for so many years that it starts to wreak havoc I'm puzzled that chinese whispers and word of mouth rumour should have so much faith put in them, when simply looking up the research is so easy. Either one's a conspiracy-believer like TruthBringer, who'll copy/paste anything that excites him, or one has a more rational approach to the world.Drinking water fluoridation: bone mineral density and h... [Bone. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

[...] Using the age-adjusted incidences, significantly fewer hip fractures occurred in Chemnitz in both men and women. In conclusion, our study suggests that optimal drinking water fluoridation (1 mg/L), which is advocated for prevention of dental caries, does not influence peak bone density but may reduce the incidence of osteoporotic hip fractures in the very old.

Bone. 1998 Mar;22(3):273-8.

Drinking water fluoridation: bone mineral density and hip fracture incidence.

Lehmann R, Wapniarz M, Hofmann B, Pieper B, Haubitz I, Allolio B.

That's one of 29 hits on PubMed when asking (fluorid*) AND osteoporosis AND correlation - by all means see if any report supports the "more people with osteoperosiss after having flouride in there systems for so many years that it starts to wreak havoc" myth. If you have any "citations" that don't appear in PubMed perhaps you could suggest why they don't appear. Conspiracy, anyone?
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LarsMac;1345739 wrote: Well, the fluoridation campaign started when I was a teen.

I know that family members who lived in areas where there was no fluoridation in those years now have fewer teeth than I and my siblings do.

In fact my parents generation were almost 100% using false teeth by the time they were my age, and I am only missing a couple that were lost in my rabble-rousing days.

My dental hygienist credits fluoridation to my dental health.

As for my mental health, I leave that to others, but, I am at least as sane as you are.I thought that was settled fifty years ago,



If it was so dangerous ,why are we generally healthier than we were then?
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Ahso!;1345839 wrote: I've known people who have eaten tubes of toothpaste and they're still alive, TB.Kathy Ellen;1345886 wrote: What type of people would eat tubes of toothpaste Ahso?Ahso!;1345891 wrote: Type? That would be the tubes of toothpaste eating type, I suppose.


Eating tubes of toothpaste is done in initiations for college and high school fraternities. Military personnel have also been ordered to eat toothpaste in boot camp.
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