Christopher Hitchens and Tony Blair - Munk Debates

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:28 pm

One to watch I think.

YouTube - Christopher Hitchens and Tony Blair - Munk Debates 1

YouTube - Christopher Hitchens and Tony Blair - Munk Debates

xyz · Post by **xyz** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:56 pm

gmc;1345284 wrote: One to watch I think.
So it's useful to watch a guy who wants us to believe there's no god talking to a guy who wants us to believe there's no god?

No. Get either of them here, and we'll see how long they last.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:34 am

xyz;1345531 wrote: So it's useful to watch a guy who wants us to believe there's no god talking to a guy who wants us to believe there's no god?

No. Get either of them here, and we'll see how long they last.

It's up to you to decide if you find it useful or not. If your mind is already made up on the matter and you are not prepared to accept other people may not share the same beliefs there is little point you listening to or taking part in any discussions. There have been and still are wars fought over the issue. Blair and Bush are both on record as saying tney believed they were doing god's will. Blair kept that belief very quiet because he knew the reaction of the british populace would be one of hostility. Also converting to catholiocism AFTER appointing bishops to the english church is a serious matter, had he been catholic at the time it would have been a serious issue. He is is a hypocrite and a liar that should stand trial for what he has done. Saying that god will be his judge is just not good enough. So the debate is interesting, I thought others might also find it so. If it doesn't interest you don't watch it.

Ahso! · Post by **Ahso!** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:18 am

xyz;1345531 wrote: So it's useful to watch a guy who wants us to believe there's no god talking to a guy who wants us to believe there's no god?

No. Get either of them here, and we'll see how long they last.And who should they be afraid of? You? Thats laughable, you can't even deal with me. What will you do, put them on ignore until they come around to your way of thinking? Perhaps you'll talk in circles until they submit.:wah:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:22 am

I'm not convinced that Tony Blair is a good speaker on behalf of the theists before watching. Nor am I convinced that he has the intellectual savvy to spar with Hitchens as an orator. Nor do I think Blair has the reputation required to win any votes. Summarily, it seems to me a rather comical match. I'm about to hear Blair's opening statements, so I assure you I've started watching it, I'm not sure how far I'll get.

xyz · Post by **xyz** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:29 am

gmc;1345565 wrote: It's up to you to decide if you find it useful or not. If your mind is already made up on the matter and you are not prepared to accept other people may not share the same beliefs there is little point you listening to or taking part in any discussions. There have been and still are wars fought over the issue. Blair and Bush are both on record as saying tney believed they were doing god's will. Blair kept that belief very quiet because he knew the reaction of the british populace would be one of hostility. Also converting to catholiocism AFTER appointing bishops to the english church is a serious matter, had he been catholic at the time it would have been a serious issue. He is is a hypocrite and a liar that should stand trial for what he has done.
So why is it useful to watch a guy who wants us to believe there's no god talking to a guy who wants us to believe there's no god?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:58 am

koan;1345569 wrote: I'm not convinced that Tony Blair is a good speaker on behalf of the theists before watching. Nor am I convinced that he has the intellectual savvy to spar with Hitchens as an orator. Nor do I think Blair has the reputation required to win any votes. Summarily, it seems to me a rather comical match. I'm about to hear Blair's opening statements, so I assure you I've started watching it, I'm not sure how far I'll get.

Here in the UK we all know blair is a numpty, he doesnt know it though.

posted by xyz

So why is it useful to watch a guy who wants us to believe there's no god talking to a guy who wants us to believe there's no god?

Maybe if you watched it a bit you might have picked up on what the dabate is about.

xyz · Post by **xyz** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:16 am

gmc;1345587 wrote: Maybe if you watched it a bit you might have picked up on what the dabate is about.
Why would anyone watch a person recommended by a party who suspects him of war crimes?

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:20 am

well, he did hit his 7 minute opening remark time limit precisely on the mark....

:wah:

koan · Post by **koan** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:23 am

I'm not going to watch it throughout the question period until the bitter end. I will say that I found Hitchens more watchable than usual and I found Blair more watchable than expected so it wasn't a complete waste of a few clicks, though ultimately nothing profound or new was said.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:58 pm

xyz;1345589 wrote: Why would anyone watch a person recommended by a party who suspects him of war crimes?

That doesn't make an y sense. What war crimes have i accused you off?

Don't watch it if you don't want to I don't actually care whether you do or not.

You might find this more interesting

YouTube - Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry versus The Catholics, 1 of 5

But for future reference if you don't find any links I post interesting just don't bother watching them.