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Anti-prostitution laws were challenged constitutionally and, for now, struck down by an Ontario judge. Crown has 30 days to appeal.

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“By increasing the risk of harm to street prostitutes, the communicating law is simply too high a price to pay for the alleviation of social nuisance, she said. “I find that the danger faced by prostitutes greatly outweighs any harm which may be faced by the public.
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I understand the dangers to Prostitutes but I am In favour of legalised Prostitution.
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The only difference I've ever seen between prostitutes and many women who marry for money is that the prostitute is more honest and wealthy people wouldn't dress up to go to the prostitute's dinner party.
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koan;1335489 wrote: Anti-prostitution laws were challenged constitutionally and, for now, struck down by an Ontario judge. Crown has 30 days to appeal.

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“By increasing the risk of harm to street prostitutes, the communicating law is simply too high a price to pay for the alleviation of social nuisance,” she said. “I find that the danger faced by prostitutes greatly outweighs any harm which may be faced by the public.”


Funny you should ask, as our Ontario Government has just approved the opening of The Oasis Aqualounge in downtown Toronto, isn't that special? -I live in Toronto.

It is a sex club for adults:

-rooms with a view

-lounges

-roll a way beds/futons

-swimming pool and tons more.

Of course you have to have your ID on you, but to me and its not because I am no longer in my twenties, thirties etc.....I disapprove completely.

They say its for couples, which to me is bad enough, but that's not going to stop weirdo's, prostitutes, and sex crime individuals.



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Well, sex clubs aren't a new thing. Fetish clubs have been around for ages and lots of less innocent activities than old fashioned sex go on.

Why do you disapprove? Not as a challenge, just out of interest.

It's not like sexuality is going away if we pretend it doesn't exist. Prostitution is the oldest trade, after all. It's about time they pay tax on it and qualify for unemployment benefits or... lol... retraining
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I am in favour of the legalisation of prostitution. Protects the women far more than they are now. (and men, I suppose)

Also, thinking about it, the possibilities for salons run by women discussing issues would be huge. I'm thinking about the sort of thing that happened in France in the 18th and 19th century.
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koan;1335858 wrote: Well, sex clubs aren't a new thing. Fetish clubs have been around for ages and lots of less innocent activities than old fashioned sex go on.

Why do you disapprove? Not as a challenge, just out of interest.

It's not like sexuality is going away if we pretend it doesn't exist. Prostitution is the oldest trade, after all. It's about time they pay tax on it and qualify for unemployment benefits or... lol... retraining


Illegal sex clubs yes.....but not legal.

To me, if you want to have sex, have it at home, a hotel room etc., not in some sex parlor....its inappropriate behaviour & quite disgusting & as said, weirdos, sex fends and sex offenders will be there since its now legal.

Prostituion to me should not become legalized either, it will encourage even more men and women of the same sort as above, plus STD's.

I know its been around forever, but if you have no wife/girlfriend, find one or do it yourself at home.

so your saying if a prostitute has no sex for whatever amount of time, she/he should be entitled to UIC? ------- just out of curiosity?
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Odie;1335864 wrote: Illegal sex clubs yes.....but not legal.

To me, if you want to have sex, have it at home, a hotel room etc., not in some sex parlor....its inappropriate behaviour & quite disgusting & as said, weirdos, sex fends and sex offenders will be there since its now legal.

Prostituion to me should not become legalized either, it will encourage even more men and women of the same sort as above, plus STD's.

I know its been around forever, but if you have no wife/girlfriend, find one or do it yourself at home.

so your saying if a prostitute has no sex for whatever amount of time, she/he should be entitled to UIC? ------- just out of curiosity?
Fetish clubs are legal because they don't actually have intercourse being that it's not required to be engaged in having sex and avoiding that one aspect lets them do it legally in public.

Legalizing means less STD's imo. Takes it out of the back alleyways and lets people handle it properly.

Given a choice more people who are set on buying sex will do it in a reputable establishment instead of with the drug riddled options available on the street.

As far as EI goes... that part just occurred to me as being funny. I don't know that they can prove they've been unemployed but then... those housewives who married sugar daddies don't pay taxes on it either.
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koan;1335866 wrote: Fetish clubs are legal because they don't actually have intercourse being that it's not required to be engaged in having sex and avoiding that one aspect lets them do it legally in public.

Legalizing means less STD's imo. Takes it out of the back alleyways and lets people handle it properly.

Given a choice more people who are set on buying sex will do it in a reputable establishment instead of with the drug riddled options available on the street.

As far as EI goes... that part just occurred to me as being funny. I don't know that they can prove they've been unemployed but then... those housewives who married sugar daddies don't pay taxes on it either.


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Perhaps your way of thinking will help people rather as you said than doing it in alleyways etc.

and STD's....that will also improve...never thought of it these ways.



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Hey Koan, I just thought of something.



If prostitution does become legal, it would save men from carrying all that cash in their pockets, instead they can use their debit card.



geez........ I wonder where they'd swipe it?:lips::sneaky::yh_rotfl
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Prostitution appears to be the oldest profession in the world. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. However, in order to understand prostitution, it is well worth looking at what constituted legitimate relations between men and women now and from the beginnings of time. Marriage was not always commonplace as it is now. Marriage itself is nothing more than an economical relationship between a man and a woman after all, but one that accommodates for children who are also factors in the economical arrangement.

Illegitimacy was commonplace once. It is not feasible to argue this matter without looking closely at mankind's history. Once upon a time, marriage was only available to the rulers and very rich men. Hence the reason why a woman/wife would be considered to be owned by a man.

Prostitution today is only deemed ugly because it has been ingrained so into society by religion. But we are gradually coming to a new front as a society where we can truly think for ourselves.

Prostitution has become an ugly word and many prostitutes now work by a different term. It is simple business. It is only immoral in the eyes of the onlooker. It is better than rape, and other sex crimes.

I, personally, have no need for prostitutes, but I have met them in the course of my life. Believe you me, they are ordinary people just making a living and if you take away the stigma, they are good hearted people too. They have more love in their hearts than a troop of do-gooders.
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Odie;1336004 wrote: Hey Koan, I just thought of something.



If prostitution does become legal, it would save men from carrying all that cash in their pockets, instead they can use their debit card.



geez........ I wonder where they'd swipe it?:lips::sneaky::yh_rotfl


I didn't miss this, just couldn't think of a better reply. ;)
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Koan... I was at a cricket match once and some of the woman were talking... I heard one say.. and to this day I will never forget the feeling of disgust I had for that woman... She said... 'If he gets me that new car, I may just lift my night dress for him'.
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exactly, oscar.

That's why I keep saying prostitution is legal some women just get married first to avoid being called a ho.
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Some people use their brains to make a living others use their genitals. Whatever organ suits you I reckon.
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Pretty much anything else goes in Canada so why not this as well....
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koan;1336816 wrote: I didn't miss this, just couldn't think of a better reply. ;)


no reply was needed.......it was just funny.
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The pig farm killings are being cited as justification for change though it's unclear how bawdy houses existing would have saved any lives in the matter of Robert Pickton
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If it's between consenting adults and there is no coercion on either party why do people feel the need to interfere in someone's private life? If it was legalised you wouldn't need to go to a brothel unless you wanted to and all the street walkers that cause so much offence would disappear overnight. Who does more harm to society - a prostitute or a banker and/or politician?
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I'm for decriminalizing prostitution.
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gmc;1336907 wrote: If it's between consenting adults and there is no coercion on either party why do people feel the need to interfere in someone's private life? If it was legalised you wouldn't need to go to a brothel unless you wanted to and all the street walkers that cause so much offence would disappear overnight. Who does more harm to society - a prostitute or a banker and/or politician?
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The Oasis AquaLounge and other clubs like it are places couples and singles can go and be around other like minded people that are into the lifestyle.. The oasis aqualounge is clean, the staff are friendly and any concerns we might have are taken seriously. I can't say enough about this place we love it. So when I saw it in this forum I felt compelled and a little upset it would be categorized with prostitution. They are not places where money is exchanged for sex, at least in theory. So they do not really fall into the category of prostitution. My husband and I have been to the Oasis AquaLounge and other clubs and are active in the lifestyle. What we do is consentual and what you find at these places as oppose to others is respect and the NO means NO policy. It is taken very seriously and those who do not follow it are asked to leave by the establishment or by others.

Secondly I do believe prostitution should be legalized. It's is one of the oldest professions and will not go away. If it is legalized it will be safer for women, they will not have a "pimp" who will take advantage of them or beat them up and take all their money. They will not be slaves to those individuals. They will be monitored by doctors and will be better off and healthier. By keeping it illegal we are giving these pimps the power to do what they want and the women are helpless. I've been to europe and seen how it works if it is legal and regulated how much safer these women are. We have to stop thinking that making it a criminal offense will stop the problem. It has not as these women are still abused and unprotected.
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spot;1354218 wrote: Odie!

Client in room three, step lively, your shift's over in forty minutes.


Your place or mine? Tell you what? I'll flip a coin. Head at my place, tail at yours:yh_rotfl
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Odie;1354224 wrote: Your place or mine? Tell you what? I'll flip a coin. Head at my place, tail at yours:yh_rotfl


Dear oh dear. It's sienna. She signed up to complain of your "I disapprove completely" about her local playroom - where she says "when I saw it in this forum I felt compelled and a little upset it would be categorized with prostitution". She's your fish, here's a paternoster, deal with it.
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spot;1354227 wrote: Dear oh dear. It's sienna. She signed up to complain of your "I disapprove completely" about her local playroom - where she says "when I saw it in this forum I felt compelled and a little upset it would be categorized with prostitution". She's your fish, here's a paternoster, deal with it.


she works there, she has to love it.

she says its not prostitution.....some parts may not, the rest is.

I know its the oldest profession, but it still doesn't make it right.
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Odie;1354230 wrote: she works there, she has to love it.

she says its not prostitution.....some parts may not, the rest is.

I know its the oldest profession, but it still doesn't make it right.


"It still doesn't make it right". I think that can be said about the practicies in alot of professions.
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Odie;1354230 wrote: she works there, she has to love it.She does nothing of the sort, she's (if you'll excuse the word in this unfortunate context) a member.
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littleCJelkton;1354232 wrote: "It still doesn't make it right". I think that can be said about the practicies in alot of professions.


I fully agree! It's just a place for couples to have sex with other couples, group sex or whatever, to me, its inviting more problems.
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spot;1354233 wrote: She does nothing of the sort, she's (if you'll excuse the word in this unfortunate context) a member.


I read that wrong, sorry, it made more sense today, yes she is a member.
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Odie;1354256 wrote: I read that wrong, sorry, it made more sense today, yes she is a member.


Don't tell I, tell 'ee.
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spot;1354260 wrote: Don't tell I, tell 'ee.


what's the point? She/he posted once just to advertise.
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Odie;1354310 wrote: what's the point? She/he posted once just to advertise.


No, she posted once - so far - because she was upset at your characterisation of the club she goes to. You mentioned the place before she mentioned the place, that means she's not advertising, she's responding to what she sees as inaccurate criticism. The club she's a member of is not a brothel. I'd be delighted if she continued to post in the thread, or in any other.
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spot;1354314 wrote: No, she posted once - so far - because she was upset at your characterisation of the club she goes to. You mentioned the place before she mentioned the place, that means she's not advertising, she's responding to what she sees as inaccurate criticism. The club she's a member of is not a brothel. I'd be delighted if she continued to post in the thread, or in any other.


The reason she posted was to give a different idea on what the lounge is about.

- as said before, it's a sex club.
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Odie;1354318 wrote: - as said before, it's a sex club.
What you actually said, having first named it, was that the club attracted weirdos, sex fiends and sex offenders. And you're surprised at a club member joining FG to put the record straight?
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Odie;1354255 wrote: I fully agree! It's just a place for couples to have sex with other couples, group sex or whatever, to me, its inviting more problems.


No I was refering to lets say banking practices, agriculture monopolism, the possilbe lost of revenue when comparing medicinal cures to medicinal treatment. Even those are all proffesions and thats how they make money it still doesn't make it right. Though I always wondered why is sexual intercourse wrong?
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