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Ahhh the great British tradition of holding a Demo.

Any-one Interested In joining me In the demo outside a book store ( details by pm only) where Tony Blair will be signing copies of his book In London on Wednesday 8th September.
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If I can't make it. Do you're level best to kick him in the knackers, then give him a swift one from me. Or two if you can manage it. I look forward to seeing your ugly mug on the news and your right foot in his testacles
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Snowfire;1330050 wrote: If I can't make it. Do you're level best to kick him in the knackers, then give him a swift one from me. Or two if you can manage it. I look forward to seeing your ugly mug on the news and your right foot in his testacles Well, as I am the local celeb round here already, It would simply be rude not to get on the front page of the Bristol Evening Post again. I will certainly do my best for you.
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tony blair?............can i throw tomatoes at him?.............prefrably left them in the tin too?

never liked the smarmy guy............always reminded me of a dodgy used car saleman

the guy has a lot of blood on his hands
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http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... 79982/1093

"If you want to have your photo taken alongside Blair, forget it. Likewise, using your mobile to take a picture: that’s banned, too. Additionally, don’t expect a personal dedication in your copy of A Journey, and be prepared to have your belongings checked into a holding area before getting anywhere close to the former PM. The rules also go on to say that members of the public who buy a book will be given a wristband to access the queue, but that doesn’t necessarily guarantee a book signing."



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beowulf;1330058 wrote: tony blair?............can i throw tomatoes at him?.............prefrably left them in the tin too?

never liked the smarmy guy............always reminded me of a dodgy used car saleman

the guy has a lot of blood on his hands Joking aside... This Is going to be a serious demo and I am sure by the Intended numbers who will attend, It will make the BBC news.

How else do we tell Blair exactly what we think of his book?

I predict a riot.......
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along-for-the-ride;1330067 wrote: http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... 79982/1093

"If you want to have your photo taken alongside Blair, forget it. Likewise, using your mobile to take a picture: that’s banned, too. Additionally, don’t expect a personal dedication in your copy of A Journey, and be prepared to have your belongings checked into a holding area before getting anywhere close to the former PM. The rules also go on to say that members of the public who buy a book will be given a wristband to access the queue, but that doesn’t necessarily guarantee a book signing."



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think id rather read one of Jordans books...............and we all know they are a pile of poo lol
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beowulf;1330074 wrote: think id rather read one of Jordans books...............and we all know they are a pile of poo lol


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Its such a shame the books will be so expensive, otherwise I would suggest everybody buy a copy then build a bonfire outside the bookshop
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Snowfire;1330091 wrote: Its such a shame the books will be so expensive, otherwise I would suggest everybody buy a copy then build a bonfire outside the bookshop


There Is another Demo I shall be at on the following day on the 8th September In London... That WILL make head-line news but I am sworn to confidentiality on that one.
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oscar;1330049 wrote: Ahhh the great British tradition of holding a Demo.

Any-one Interested In joining me In the demo outside a book store ( details by pm only) where Tony Blair will be signing copies of his book In London on Wednesday 8th September.
Have you considered all you may do is give some much needed publicity to his book launch ?

Wouldn't it be better if no one turned up, the streets were empty and the book sales bombed ?
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Bruv;1330096 wrote: Have you considered all you may do is give some much needed publicity to his book launch ?

Wouldn't it be better if no one turned up, the streets were empty and the book sales bombed ?
Yes, that Is good logic....... But why miss an opportunity to show him how the Country feels?
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Bruv;1330096 wrote: Have you considered all you may do is give some much needed publicity to his book launch ?

Wouldn't it be better if no one turned up, the streets were empty and the book sales bombed ?


But weren't the profits being donated to a very deserving cause? Or has that changed now?
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oscar;1330099 wrote: Yes, that Is good logic....... But why miss an opportunity to show him how the Country feels?


We did all that, Oscar, at the very first huge demo in London, against the proposed USA/UK invasion of Iraq ! Did they take any notice of that ?? Of course they didn't - because it was peaceful (if there had been a massive riot, they might just have noticed, but I still doubt it would have made any difference to their decision). I would think that security for that idiot will be enormous, and you may find that nobody looking anything like a demonstrator, will be allowed anywhere near him.

I think Bruv's got the right idea. I expect B. Liar will be hoping for some trouble for that very reason !

Beowulf too has got a good idea - if I could get there I would buy, especially for the occasion, a few tins of 'Tarrantellas', oops sorry, he's not worth that expenditure so I'd better visit Tesco and buy their cheapest 'value' tins. :yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_giggle
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theia;1330115 wrote: But weren't the profits being donated to a very deserving cause? Or has that changed now? The Royal British Legion.... but, ask your self this... Would he have donated the proceeds had It not of been for the Chilcott Enquiry? And public out-rage at the death of David Kelly and the cover-up and the sexed up weapons dossier leading to the Invasion of Iraq?

Born again Tony is merely trying to win back some much needed PR and sadly, the RBL are not In the position to turn down a few quid In donations.
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G#Gill;1330116 wrote: We did all that, Oscar, at the very first huge demo in London, against the proposed USA/UK invasion of Iraq ! Did they take any notice of that ?? Of course they didn't - because it was peaceful (if there had been a massive riot, they might just have noticed, but I still doubt it would have made any difference to their decision). I would think that security for that idiot will be enormous, and you may find that nobody looking anything like a demonstrator, will be allowed anywhere near him.

I think Bruv's got the right idea. I expect B. Liar will be hoping for some trouble for that very reason !

Beowulf too has got a good idea - if I could get there I would buy, especially for the occasion, a few tins of 'Tarrantellas', oops sorry, he's not worth that expenditure so I'd better visit Tesco and buy their cheapest 'value' tins. :yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_giggle Ahhhh now I am taken back to the days of my demo's against Fox Hunting.

I think I will buy the book just to see how he tries to excuse himself.

Fancy coming Gill?... There will be tea and biccies afterwards.
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oscar;1330092 wrote: There Is another Demo I shall be at on the following day on the 8th September In London... That WILL make head-line news but I am sworn to confidentiality on that one.


the signing at Waterstones? :lips:
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beowulf;1330132 wrote: the signing at Waterstones? :lips: No No No... Nothing to do with Blair... Another figure In the head-lines. :lips::lips: Outside a police sation
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oscar;1330099 wrote: Yes, that Is good logic....... But why miss an opportunity to show him how the Country feels?


you honestly think he gives a damn about the country?.........all he cares about is lining his own pockets.
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IF he is donating the profits to the Royal British Legion - I would suggest it could be to try to salve his conscience ?
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oscar;1330123 wrote: The Royal British Legion.... but, ask your self this... Would he have donated the proceeds had It not of been for the Chilcott Enquiry? And public out-rage at the death of David Kelly and the cover-up and the sexed up weapons dossier leading to the Invasion of Iraq?

Born again Tony is merely trying to win back some much needed PR and sadly, the RBL are not In the position to turn down a few quid In donations.


Possibly not...but isn't it better that people who are in need of help benefit from the donation? I don't agree with many of his decisions but I agree with this one, and I wouldn't want to do anything that might affect the monies that The British Legion may receive. In this particular case, I don't actually care much about his motives.
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theia;1330208 wrote: Possibly not...but isn't it better that people who are in need of help benefit from the donation? I don't agree with many of his decisions but I agree with this one, and I wouldn't want to do anything that might affect the monies that The British Legion may receive. In this particular case, I don't actually care much about his motives. The RBL got along just fine before he wrote his book and they would get along fine without the proceeds. Yes, It Is always nice for the RBL to get funds but not off the back of an Illegal Invasion of a Soveriegn Country.

I am actually appalled that any-one can say they do not care about his motives.
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oscar;1330213 wrote: The RBL got along just fine before he wrote his book and they would get along fine without the proceeds. Yes, It Is always nice for the RBL to get funds but not off the back of an Illegal Invasion of a Soveriegn Country.

I am actually appalled that any-one can say they do not care about his motives.


Why are you appalled when I say that, in this particular case, I don't care about his motives?
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theia;1330215 wrote: Why are you appalled when I say that, in this particular case, I don't care about his motives?


Look at It another way... Blair has a personal fortune of millions. He could have donated a million to the RBL before he wrote his book but he did not and would not.

Had there not of been an enquiry Into the Iraq Invasion, I very much doubt that he would have offered the RBL a penny. The Chilcott Enquiry has exposed him to the Country for the liar he Is and he thinks this will save him some favour. For the past 2 years he has been doing the circuit In the US earning millions from giving speeches... how much of that did he donate to the RBL? Bugger all I suspect.

The only reason he has offered up the proceeds of his book Is because the Country Is appalled at him earning money selling his memoirs over an Illegal War where our troops came home In body bags.

The man Is a slime-ball of the highest degree and If you do not care about his motives as long as a charity gets a few quid, then perhaps you should go and talk to some of the parents of the young lads who have lost their lives In Iraq and Afghan.
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oscar;1330217 wrote: Look at It another way... Blair has a personal fortune of millions. He could have donated a million to the RBL before he wrote his book but he did not and would not.

Had there not of been an enquiry Into the Iraq Invasion, I very much doubt that he would have offered the RBL a penny. The Chilcott Enquiry has exposed him to the Country for the liar he Is and he thinks this will save him some favour. For the past 2 years he has been doing the circuit In the US earning millions from giving speeches... how much of that did he donate to the RBL? Bugger all I suspect.

The only reason he has offered up the proceeds of his book Is because the Country Is appalled at him earning money selling his memoirs over an Illegal War where our troops came home In body bags.

The man Is a slime-ball of the highest degree and If you do not care about his motives as long as a charity gets a few quid, then perhaps you should go and talk to some of the parents of the young lads who have lost their lives In Iraq and Afghan.


So, if I care about his motives in donating the profits from his book to The British Legion, I can somehow change the horrors that have already happened? I think this unlikely and I would prefer to see the money going towards helping those who need it.
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theia;1330220 wrote: So, if I care about his motives in donating the profits from his book to The British Legion, I can somehow change the horrors that have already happened? I think this unlikely and I would prefer to see the money going towards helping those who need it.


It's a bit like - well let's say you have just lost your legs in a car crash caused by someone driving without a care for the consequences of his action. He is helping you by giving you artificial legs and a wheelchair. Do you still think he should be prosecuted? Would you accept the gift knowing that he still feels no remorse for what he has done - god will be his judge. and by the ay he is earning £50,000 a time giving lectures in how to be a good driver.

He's basically throwing coins in the hat of the cripples he has caused and we are all supposed to thank him for being magnanimous?

I appreciate where you are coming from but I happen to think the bastard shouldn't be alloed to salve his conscience like that.
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gmc;1330225 wrote: It's a bit like - well let's say you have just lost your legs in a car crash caused by someone driving without a care for the consequences of his action. He is helping you by giving you artificial legs and a wheelchair. Do you still think he should be prosecuted? Would you accept the gift knowing that he still feels no remorse for what he has done - god will be his judge. and by the ay he is earning £50,000 a time giving lectures in how to be a good driver.

He's basically throwing coins in the hat of the cripples he has caused and we are all supposed to thank him for being magnanimous?

I appreciate where you are coming from but I happen to think the bastard shouldn't be alloed to salve his conscience like that.


Yes, I would expect the driver to be prosecuted, gmc. And I don't know how I'd feel... pretty angry and bitter, I would imagine. And I might not accept the help he offered because of this anger and bitterness that I was feeling.

But I'm at a loss as to why you're asking me this. In my previous posts I have said that I don't care about Tony Blair's motives for donating the profits from his book to the British Legion and that I'm glad that people are being helped. I mentioned nothing about how I feel about the man being prosecuted or salving his conscience.
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oscar;1330217 wrote: Look at It another way... Blair has a personal fortune of millions. He could have donated a million to the RBL before he wrote his book but he did not and would not.

Had there not of been an enquiry Into the Iraq Invasion, I very much doubt that he would have offered the RBL a penny.



The man Is a slime-ball of the highest degree .


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theia;1330229 wrote: Yes, I would expect the driver to be prosecuted, gmc. And I don't know how I'd feel... pretty angry and bitter, I would imagine. And I might not accept the help he offered because of this anger and bitterness that I was feeling.

But I'm at a loss as to why you're asking me this. In my previous posts I have said that I don't care about Tony Blair's motives for donating the profits from his book to the British Legion and that I'm glad that people are being helped. I mentioned nothing about how I feel about the man being prosecuted or salving his conscience.


Just offering a differing viewpoint. I think his motives do matter and it's a moot point whether he is giving the profits because he knows people are sickened by his hypocrisy or because he feels it morally right. It is his perverted sense of morality that got us in to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. He seems to have no sense of shame over what he has done. Either way it is IMO akin to accepting a wheelchair from the person that crippled you as a way of letting them atone for what they have done. It's blood money. They wouldn't have needed help if it were not for him (and all the MP's that did nothing to stop him). Maybe if the British legion had rejected his offer he might have begun to feel some shame. I doubt it though.
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gmc;1330261 wrote: Just offering a differing viewpoint. I think his motives do matter and it's a moot point whether he is giving the profits because he knows people are sickened by his hypocrisy or because he feels it morally right. It is his perverted sense of morality that got us in to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. He seems to have no sense of shame over what he has done. Either way it is IMO akin to accepting a wheelchair from the person that crippled you as a way of letting them atone for what they have done. It's blood money. They wouldn't have needed help if it were not for him (and all the MP's that did nothing to stop him). Maybe if the British legion had rejected his offer he might have begun to feel some shame. I doubt it though.


gmc, I am no fan of Tony Blair nor the actions he took. But I don't see why the British Legion should turn down what could be a hefty donation and which could help a lot of people, merely to make a point, which, as you say, may have no effect on Tony Blair at all.
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gmc;1330225 wrote: It's a bit like - well let's say you have just lost your legs in a car crash caused by someone driving without a care for the consequences of his action. He is helping you by giving you artificial legs and a wheelchair. Do you still think he should be prosecuted? Would you accept the gift knowing that he still feels no remorse for what he has done - god will be his judge. and by the ay he is earning £50,000 a time giving lectures in how to be a good driver.

He's basically throwing coins in the hat of the cripples he has caused and we are all supposed to thank him for being magnanimous?

I appreciate where you are coming from but I happen to think the bastard shouldn't be alloed to salve his conscience like that.
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theia;1330272 wrote: gmc, I am no fan of Tony Blair nor the actions he took. But I don't see why the British Legion should turn down what could be a hefty donation and which could help a lot of people, merely to make a point, which, as you say, may have no effect on Tony Blair at all.


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G#Gill;1330116 wrote: We did all that, Oscar, at the very first huge demo in London, against the proposed USA/UK invasion of Iraq ! Did they take any notice of that ?? Of course they didn't - because it was peaceful (if there had been a massive riot, they might just have noticed, but I still doubt it would have made any difference to their decision). I would think that security for that idiot will be enormous, and you may find that nobody looking anything like a demonstrator, will be allowed anywhere near him.

I think Bruv's got the right idea. I expect B. Liar will be hoping for some trouble for that very reason !

Beowulf too has got a good idea - if I could get there I would buy, especially for the occasion, a few tins of 'Tarrantellas', oops sorry, he's not worth that expenditure so I'd better visit Tesco and buy their cheapest 'value' tins. :yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_devil:yh_giggle


Those London demos were the final proof that we no longer live in a democracy.

They plaid a beautiful clip on Radio4 this morning of his smarminess being interviewed whilst in office about climate change, I paraphrase but not by much :-

"I believe that the message we give should be qualified as the very worst thing you can do is to claim certanty when you don't have the information to back that certanty up"

I'm sure the irony was lost on nobody who listened with more than half an ear.
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theia;1330272 wrote: gmc, I am no fan of Tony Blair nor the actions he took. But I don't see why the British Legion should turn down what could be a hefty donation and which could help a lot of people, merely to make a point, which, as you say, may have no effect on Tony Blair at all. The British Legion , now The Royal British Legion , was formed in 1921 to give help to ex-Service people and their dependants. It dealt with the widows and orphaned children of WW1 primarily and then of course WW2. In later years It catered for troops that were Involved In peace Keeping Missions around the world and also the troubles In Northern Ireland.

It was not founded to support Illegal Invasions of Sovereign Countries. The grass roots of the RBL still lay primarily with surviving WW2 Veterans and their families, mainly conscripts.

The RBL has managed financially before we Invaded Iraq. If the RBL Is now running short of funds, It is because they are expected to shoulder the burden of troops Injured In Iraq and Afghan and families who have lost their sons over there.

Had Blair not have lied, not have 'sexed up' the weapons Dossier, not kissed George Bushs arsse, the RBL would not even be In the position they find them-selves In now... Having to accept blood money from a war criminal to fund the aid they have to give to those troops In Iraq and Afghan.

Remember that..... The RBL was Instigated to help widows and children of WW1 and WW2.... Families of the men and women who gave their lives to defend their country and not some blood lust Jolly based on lies. The RBL has never been and should never be responsible for costly wars on foriegn soil that the people of this country did not want.
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oscar;1330309 wrote: Do you have any dealings with the RBL out of Interest?


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theia;1330339 wrote: No, except to buy a poppy once a year like many other people Then please read my former post as I think we were writing at the same time.
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oscar;1330338 wrote: The British Legion , now The Royal British Legion , was formed in 1921 to give help to ex-Service people and their dependants. It dealt with the widows and orphaned children of WW1 primarily and then of course WW2. In later years It catered for troops that were Involved In peace Keeping Missions around the world and also the troubles In Northern Ireland.

It was not founded to support Illegal Invasions of Sovereign Countries. The grass roots of the RBL still lay primarily with surviving WW2 Veterans and their families, mainly conscripts.

The RBL has managed financially before we Invaded Iraq. If the RBL Is now running short of funds, It is because they are expected to shoulder the burden of troops Injured In Iraq and Afghan and families who have lost their sons over there.

Had Blair not have lied, not have 'sexed up' the weapons Dossier, not kissed George Bushs arsse, the RBL would not even be In the position they find them-selves In now... Having to accept blood money from a war criminal to fund the aid they have to give to those troops In Iraq and Afghan.

Remember that..... The RBL was Instigated to help widows and children of WW1 and WW2.... Families of the men and women who gave their lives to defend their country and not some blood lust Jolly based on lies. The RBL has never been and should never be responsible for costly wars on foriegn soil that the people of this country did not want.


"The Royal British Legion is a UK charity providing help and welfare to the serving and ex-Service community and their families" (The Royal British Legion Homepage)

I would have thought it obvious that "it was not founded to support Illegal Invasions of Sovereign Countries"

And I'm quite sure the BL has never been "responsible for costly wars on foreign soil..." That was Tony Blair et al, wasn't it?

And although I don't support the war in Afghanistan, I consider it disrespectful to our troops there to call it "some bloody lust Jolly..." It must be a very real war to them.

And, I don't think it's helpful to those who receive help from the BL to know that some people are calling it "blood money from a war criminal."
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theia;1330353 wrote:

And, I don't think it's helpful to those who receive help from the BL to know that some people are calling it "blood money from a war criminal."


If you do not like my terminology, then perhaps you could explain what you think was the point of Invading Iraq, why we are still there, why we are In Afghan fighting what Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Raegan called 'Valiant Freedom Fighters' when they were fighting the Russians In the 80's along with funding the Taliban to fight Russia?

Then perhaps you should pop down to your local RBL and speak to some real War Vets, the one's who defended their country from a Nazi Invasion? The decison to accept Blair's blood money was reached by their HQ... That Is Not the over-all view of RBL members like myself. If you speak to any surviving WW2 vet, the chances are, they will tell you where Blair can stick his blood money.
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oscar;1330361 wrote: If you do not like my terminology, then perhaps you could explain what you think was the point of Invading Iraq, why we are still there, why we are In Afghan fighting what Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Raegan called 'Valiant Freedom Fighters' when they were fighting the Russians In the 80's along with funding the Taliban to fight Russia?

I don't actually follow your line of reasoning above at all. And even if I could answer your question, which I cannot, I can't understand why you are asking it in response to me saying that I thought "some bloody lust Jolly" is disrespectful to our troops.

Then perhaps you should pop down to your local RBL and speak to some real War Vets, the one's who defended their country from a Nazi Invasion? The decison to accept Blair's blood money was reached by their HQ... That Is Not the over-all view of RBL members like myself. If you speak to any surviving WW2 vet, the chances are, they will tell you where Blair can stick his blood money.I consider anyone who has served in any war to be a real War Vet. You can't seriously be saying that service personnel from more recent wars are not? And, I agree with HQ's decision
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theia;1330353 wrote:

And, I don't think it's helpful to those who receive help from the BL to know that some people are calling it "blood money from a war criminal."


Sorry, but for once I agree with Oscar. He is getting the money off the back of starting an illegal war, it is certainly what he will go down in history for and why most people will buy the book (he, in his ten year reign, was instrumental in starting more wars than any other ruler of this country in history) and he has donated the money to salve his conscience / improve his PR (select option to taste) - that makes it blood money and I think you'll find many of the soldiers involved will see it that way.
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theia;1330372 wrote: I consider anyone who has served in any war to be a real War Vet. You can't seriously be saying that service personnel from more recent wars are not? And, I agree with HQ's decision
I have four of my husbands nephews In Iraq and Afghan as we speak... His sisters boys. They do not want to be there. They see no point In their occupation.. They are there because they pledged to serve Queen and Country and abided by orders from Blair's Government.

Yes, Service Personnel are worlds away from conscripted boys barely 17 years old who faced prison or being shot If they did not defend their country. The service Personnel of today's wars have something the WW1 and WW2 did not have......... Choice...
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Bryn Mawr;1330377 wrote: Sorry, but for once I agree with Oscar. He is getting the money off the back of starting an illegal war, it is certainly what he will go down in history for and why most people will buy the book (he, in his ten year reign, was instrumental in starting more wars than any other ruler of this country in history) and he has donated the money to salve his conscience / improve his PR (select option to taste) - that makes it blood money and I think you'll find many of the soldiers involved will see it that way.
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oscar;1330388 wrote: I have four of my husbands nephews In Iraq and Afghan as we speak... His sisters boys. They do not want to be there. They see no point In their occupation.. They are there because they pledged to serve Queen and Country and abided by orders from Blair's Government.

Yes, Service Personnel are worlds away from conscripted boys barely 17 years old who faced prison or being shot If they did not defend their country. The service Personnel of today's wars have something the WW1 and WW2 did not have......... Choice...


I see no point in our involvement in Iraq or Afghanistan either, and never have. But I have respect for the troops that are serving there and consequently would chose my words carefully when, as a civilian, I discuss the conflict or the people serving there.
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Bryn Mawr;1330377 wrote: Sorry, but for once I agree with Oscar. He is getting the money off the back of starting an illegal war, it is certainly what he will go down in history for and why most people will buy the book (he, in his ten year reign, was instrumental in starting more wars than any other ruler of this country in history) and he has donated the money to salve his conscience / improve his PR (select option to taste) - that makes it blood money and I think you'll find many of the soldiers involved will see it that way.


I can't select either of those options, Bryn, because I don't know what his motives are in making the donation. For me, what is important is that the donation will support those that need it.

I also don't know many of the soldiers involved and so I can't comment on whether they think it's "blood money" or not.
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oscar;1330451 wrote: Have you see this Bryn?

YouTube - It Wasn't Me.wmv

Thought you may find It as amusing as I did.


Sadly, I cannot currently view flash content from here.
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Bryn Mawr;1330553 wrote: Sadly, I cannot currently view flash content from here.
Great shame.... The song Is a parody of 'It wasn't me' by Shaggy... Only the video Is of Blair being questioned In the Chillcott equirey. They are asking him questions and he just keeps replying 'It wasn't me'... It was all Gordon's Idea'... It wasn't me... I was at Chequers.
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