Political correctness

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:32 am

Don't watch if you are the least bit likely to be offended.

YouTube - Chubbs on Polictal Correctness

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:45 am

Where does the political correctness stop and the offensiveness begin. Very early on with this bloke, I'd say.

Its a difficult subject to discuss. Why do I find Chubby Brown offensive and Frankie Boyle hilarious ? Why does Jim Davidson make me cringe and Jimmy Carr make me crease up. Is it because Frankie and Jimmy target individuals rather than stereotyping groups ?

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:05 pm

He's offensive but hilarious in bits.

How about this, is this offensive or funny, or maybe even racist?

YouTube - The best of fat bastard

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:35 pm

I am hardly offended by things like this. I just have a bit of trouble with the accent.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:28 am

It actually has nothing to do with political correctness, he's just in not funny.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:11 am

mikeinie;1329237 wrote: It actually has nothing to do with political correctness, he's just in not funny.
yea i dont find him funny either

his dirty mouth does not really offend me, im old enough to have heard and even said every swear word:rolleyes:but he just aint funny to me

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:12 am

mikeinie;1329237 wrote: It actually has nothing to do with political correctness, he's just in not funny.

He's not someone I would go out my way to see but he's funny in bits. I can't understand this government but maybe that's because I can't get my head far enough up my arse. or the black guy - you've got blonde hair, blue eyes, red lips , pink skin and you call me coloured.

How about this then

YouTube - Dave Allen on Religion

YouTube - Dave Allen on the Vagaries of the English Language

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:40 am

I like Dave Allen:)

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:44 am

kazalala;1329251 wrote: I like Dave Allen:)

The religious jokes caused outrage at the time - he was banned from irish and was on mary whitehouse's hit list. Now it's classic comedy.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:47 am

gmc;1329259 wrote: The religious jokes caused outrage at the time - he was banned from irish and was on mary whitehouse's hit list. Now it's classic comedy.
yes he was quite risque for his time

Mary Whitehouse:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:00 am

Snowfire;1329190 wrote: Where does the political correctness stop and the offensiveness begin. Very early on with this bloke, I'd say.

Its a difficult subject to discuss. Why do I find Chubby Brown offensive and Frankie Boyle hilarious ? Why does Jim Davidson make me cringe and Jimmy Carr make me crease up. Is it because Frankie and Jimmy target individuals rather than stereotyping groups ?

I have to agree with you there...

Jimmy Carr and St Frankie crack me up yet I find Jim Davidson crass and an Imbicile.

Chubby Brown Is a wanker.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:12 am

oscar;1329276 wrote: I have to agree with you there...

Jimmy Carr and St Frankie crack me up yet I find Jim Davidson crass and an Imbicile.

Chubby Brown Is a wanker.

You only say that because he's the one that wrote Gordon Brown's theme song.

YouTube - Roy Chubby Brown - I'm a Wanker

How about this then

sexism and gay jokes

YouTube - Jeff Dunham - Strip Club/Gay Man

Or does it help in the acceptance of gay people?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:56 am

gmc;1329277 wrote: You only say that because he's the one that wrote Gordon Brown's theme song.

YouTube - Roy Chubby Brown - I'm a Wanker

How about this one - politically incorrect or deserved mockery?

YouTube - Roy Chubby Brown - I'm a Wanker

sexism and gay jokes

YouTube - Jeff Dunham - Strip Club/Gay Man

Or does it help in the acceptance of gay people?
I base my opinion of Chubby Brown on a corporate he did for my sales company. Without the foul language he went down worse than a doodlebug during the blitz and as funny as a dose of diahorra only the diahorra being slightly more pleasant to look at. Complete and utter tosser.

Snowfire · Post by **Snowfire** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:13 am

I'm not easily offended. Any one who is shouldn't watch people like Frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr. Hilarious but pushing the barriers further than some would like. My objections are toward people like Bernard Manning. He was a great comedian and could be very original and funny. Unfortunately he was clearly racist, offensively racist. Jim Davidson's chalky routine was racist. Chubby Brown's golliwog routine is racist. That is and should be unacceptable in today's, apparently enlightened times

Glaswegian · Post by **Glaswegian** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:14 am

gmc;1329259 wrote: he [Dave Allen] was banned from irish and was on mary whitehouse's hit list.

kazalala wrote: Mary Whitehouse:wah:
I find it extremely difficult to imagine certain women having sex. The image of them actually involved in the act just refuses to come to mind.

Mary Whitehouse was one such woman.

Ann Widdecombe - mercifully - is another.

And Margaret Thatcher is yet another.

I suppose Mary Whitehouse, like all good Christian women, just shat her children out.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:55 am

Sorry posted link twice.

Personally I think programmes like till death us do part did a lot to counter racism by letting us laugh about it, same with lenny bruce.

I used the fat bastard one because it is incredibly racist and offensive and had the character been a big black man say or it was a british film with a fat american then there would have been outrage - although jokes about fat germans and towels go down a treat even in germany.

YouTube - Benny Hill's Nazi Death Camp

But no one objects and most scots find it hilarious. (Sadly my english wife thinks fat bastard a suitable term of endearment now). Same with russ abbott and see you jimmy wigs

So what's the difference, are scots just more mature and can laugh at ourselves or is it funny because it has an element of truth.

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:51 pm

kazalala;1329251 wrote: I like Dave Allen:)

Now that was comedy :yh_rotfl

I had the misfortune to be taken to see Roy "Chubby" Brown once, the material was so unfunny he had to try to shock people by making every other word a swear word - doesn't shock, doesn't amuse, just make him sound demented.

As an alternative, I went to see Billy Connolly once and, although there was almost as much swearing in there, the material and presentation was so good I was in pain with laughing.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:54 pm

Bryn Mawr;1329323 wrote: Now that was comedy :yh_rotfl

I had the misfortune to be taken to see Roy "Chubby" Brown once, the material was so unfunny he had to try to shock people by making every other word a swear word - doesn't shock, doesn't amuse, just make him sound demented.

As an alternative, I went to see Billy Connolly once and, although there was almost as much swearing in there, the material and presentation was so good I was in pain with laughing. Mr O and myself have seen Billy Connolly Byrn twice and we love his general observations of life. Hysterically funny and although he does swear, it almost seems apt during the dialogue.

On the other hand when Brown did the corporate for us, he was under strict orders... No swearing, no racist jokes and no Insulting women. Basically he was left with nothing.

One of the funniest corporates we had was Canon and Ball. They were just silly but very funny. As a Finale, Canon sang and we were blown away by his voice.

I would have the say the greatest I have ever seen live would be Eddie Izzard. .... Julian Clarey was fairly amusing also although smutty at times.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:33 am

Glaswegian;1329291 wrote: I find it extremely difficult to imagine certain women having sex. The image of them actually involved in the act just refuses to come to mind.

Mary Whitehouse was one such woman.

Ann Widdecombe - mercifully - is another.

And Margaret Thatcher is yet another.

I suppose Mary Whitehouse, like all good Christian women, just shat her children out.
:wah::wah::wah:hmm i bet she was a dirty girl in private:sneaky::wah:

Bryn Mawr;1329323 wrote: Now that was comedy :yh_rotfl

I had the misfortune to be taken to see Roy "Chubby" Brown once, the material was so unfunny he had to try to shock people by making every other word a swear word - doesn't shock, doesn't amuse, just make him sound demented.

As an alternative, I went to see Billy Connolly once and, although there was almost as much swearing in there, the material and presentation was so good I was in pain with laughing.
I love Billy Connelly too, and yes he can be crude and politically incorrect,, but he still makes me laugh:wah:

I love his tour shows as well where he tells you about the places he is touring at:)

oscar;1329384 wrote: Mr O and myself have seen Billy Connolly Byrn twice and we love his general observations of life. Hysterically funny and although he does swear, it almost seems apt during the dialogue.

On the other hand when Brown did the corporate for us, he was under strict orders... No swearing, no racist jokes and no Insulting women. Basically he was left with nothing.

One of the funniest corporates we had was Canon and Ball. They were just silly but very funny. As a Finale, Canon sang and we were blown away by his voice.

I would have the say the greatest I have ever seen live would be Eddie Izzard. .... Julian Clarey was fairly amusing also although smutty at times.
Eddi Izzard is a different kind of funny but ye i do find him funny.

What about Peter Kay? i loved him when he first came on the scene and he is very clean and PC yet i wet myself laughing at him:wah:

I think though , that shows there is no need to shock to be funny, but if you are going to push the boundaries, you better be a talented comedian to do it:)

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:30 am

It was being politically incorrect that really got billy Connolly noticed

YouTube - Billy Connolly -The Crucifixion Part1 - see you Judas, Your getting oan ma tits

In sectarian scotland it was absolutely hilarious, still is, but the outrage anongst the unco guid at the time was incredible.

This guy would probably be in trouble in iran

YouTube - Omid Djalili Comedy 1

:yh_rotfl sorry got distracted

YouTube - Foreign Accent Syndrome - Omid Djalili comedy stand up - BBC

Now if it was someone else would it be as funny or is it funnier because of what they are.

YouTube - Shappi Khorsandi - Live at the Apollo Hamersmith

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:57 am

gmc;1329436 wrote: It was being politically incorrect that really got billy Connolly noticed

YouTube - Billy Connolly -The Crucifixion Part1 - see you Judas, Your getting oan ma tits

In sectarian scotland it was absolutely hilarious, still is, but the outrage anongst the unco guid at the time was incredible.

This guy would probably be in trouble in iran

YouTube - Omid Djalili Comedy 1

:yh_rotfl sorry got distracted

YouTube - Foreign Accent Syndrome - Omid Djalili comedy stand up - BBC

Now if it was someone else would it be as funny or is it funnier because of what they are.

YouTube - Shappi Khorsandi - Live at the Apollo Hamersmith
yes i have seen him on telly a bit Omid Djalili,,, is he getting away with stuff others wouldn't, because of who he is:sneaky:

beowulf · Post by **beowulf** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:37 am

kazalala;1329465 wrote: yes i have seen him on telly a bit Omid Djalili,,, is he getting away with stuff others wouldn't, because of who he is:sneaky:

hes in this......love to see it soon

The Infidel (2010 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:41 am

beowulf;1329478 wrote: hes in this......love to see it soon

The Infidel (2010 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oh ,, that looks funny:wah:

beowulf · Post by **beowulf** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:57 am

kazalala;1329481 wrote: oh ,, that looks funny:wah:

theres the trailer...........

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:12 am

Thanks :wah::wah:

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:25 am

That looks good, don't recall seeing it advertised though.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:28 pm

mikeinie;1329237 wrote: It actually has nothing to do with political correctness, he's just in not funny.

Your right Mike and his foul language has little to be desired for.:rolleyes: