Raven;1309419 wrote: I have to beg to differ. I celebrate the 4th of July every year over here. It's fun, I invite all my mates who happen to be English, Scots, Welsh and Irish and we have a grand 'ol pi$$ up and barb-b-que. The American flag flies and we ALL sing star bangled banner. (at the top of our voices) They share their holidays with me, so why wouldnt I celebrate mine with them? Holidays are a way of getting together for a booze up and friendly banter to help us forget the problems we share as a common humanity. :-6
YZGI;1309423 wrote: Fair enough, I didn't know how others would accept an American holiday on their soil. I think its great.
And if this were the case, in this case, it sure as hell wouldn't be in the news, thread concluded
Enough of this BS
Enough of this BS
K.Snyder;1309570 wrote: And if this were the case, in this case, it sure as hell wouldn't be in the news, thread concluded
I don't think Raven throws people out of her parties because they wear the colors of their respective countries.
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I don't think Raven throws people out of her parties because they wear the colors of their respective countries.
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Enough of this BS
YZGI;1309653 wrote: I don't think Raven throws people out of her parties because they wear the colors of their respective countries.
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And you assume("Why?"? I have no idea) that I would throw people out of my parties if they simply wore their flag and colors is that it, YZGI?
Well to save even myself a bit of time, I throw instigating obnoxious twats out of my parties, thread concluded! :yh_rotfl
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And you assume("Why?"? I have no idea) that I would throw people out of my parties if they simply wore their flag and colors is that it, YZGI?
Well to save even myself a bit of time, I throw instigating obnoxious twats out of my parties, thread concluded! :yh_rotfl
Enough of this BS
K.Snyder;1309569 wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how this coincides with wearing the very same flag as a means to pi** on other people
Look, K., I understand your point, I really do. Yeah, they all win the "bad timing" award. But it's still "freedom of expression" and even though it was obviously a little inflammatory, that's their right.
They should not have been punished for it andy more than you should punish someone for wearing a mexican shirt on July 4th.
Look, K., I understand your point, I really do. Yeah, they all win the "bad timing" award. But it's still "freedom of expression" and even though it was obviously a little inflammatory, that's their right.
They should not have been punished for it andy more than you should punish someone for wearing a mexican shirt on July 4th.
Enough of this BS
K.Snyder;1309568 wrote: That quote is in reference to war that gives credence to one's right to wave a flag, BTS. Your premise is of "essential liberty" serving to signify the waving of a flag and your conclusion is backwards, the premise comes first. The "logical" conclusion is what's supposed to follow
:yh_flag"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
.....Benjamin Franklin:yh_flag
Look at the quote again K........
Then look at all your points.
ie: "Waving a flag during a state of peace insinuates the need for war.". ... "I said before and I'll say it again, I expect to minimize the risk for possible physical aggression."
You expect others to to give up their liberty to wave THEIR countries flag ANYTIME they want.
Now your double speak about some conclusion or whatever...save that for the edjumakated ones..... I'm just a poor white boy and speak in plain English.....
But at least I know your stand on the flag of your country and how you hate to see people waving it. thread concluded!
:yh_flag"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
.....Benjamin Franklin:yh_flag
Look at the quote again K........
Then look at all your points.
ie: "Waving a flag during a state of peace insinuates the need for war.". ... "I said before and I'll say it again, I expect to minimize the risk for possible physical aggression."
You expect others to to give up their liberty to wave THEIR countries flag ANYTIME they want.
Now your double speak about some conclusion or whatever...save that for the edjumakated ones..... I'm just a poor white boy and speak in plain English.....
But at least I know your stand on the flag of your country and how you hate to see people waving it. thread concluded!
"If America Was A Tree, The Left Would Root For The Termites...Greg Gutfeld."
Enough of this BS
Saint_;1309767 wrote: Look, K., I understand your point, I really do. Yeah, they all win the "bad timing" award. But it's still "freedom of expression" and even though it was obviously a little inflammatory, that's their right.
They should not have been punished for it andy more than you should punish someone for wearing a mexican shirt on July 4th.
BTS;1309951 wrote: :yh_flag"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
.....Benjamin Franklin:yh_flag
Look at the quote again K........
Then look at all your points.
ie: "Waving a flag during a state of peace insinuates the need for war.". ... "I said before and I'll say it again, I expect to minimize the risk for possible physical aggression."
You expect others to to give up their liberty to wave THEIR countries flag ANYTIME they want.
Now your double speak about some conclusion or whatever...save that for the edjumakated ones..... I'm just a poor white boy and speak in plain English.....
But at least I know your stand on the flag of your country and how you hate to see people waving it. thread concluded!
If you both understood my points this would be much easier. I agree with the freedom of expression. I disagree with using such freedom to be instigating twats. If the situation was divinely coincidental so be it. If not then I reiterate my lack of respect for such ignorant triviality.
I happen to know of people that live in a significantly "Mexican-American" populated area to know the consequences of their actions and not giving a damn one way or the other causing completely unnecessary physical aggression derived from a complete and utter brainwashed state.
"I said before and I'll say it again" a real American doesn't need to wave a flag because the use of it would have already served it's purpose. What "you" do when "you" wave "your" flags is illustrate just how imperfect "your" country is by suggesting it's use isn't finished. It's tacky and shows ones inability to remain civilized when the entire logic is applied to a lack of prejudice
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They should not have been punished for it andy more than you should punish someone for wearing a mexican shirt on July 4th.
BTS;1309951 wrote: :yh_flag"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
.....Benjamin Franklin:yh_flag
Look at the quote again K........
Then look at all your points.
ie: "Waving a flag during a state of peace insinuates the need for war.". ... "I said before and I'll say it again, I expect to minimize the risk for possible physical aggression."
You expect others to to give up their liberty to wave THEIR countries flag ANYTIME they want.
Now your double speak about some conclusion or whatever...save that for the edjumakated ones..... I'm just a poor white boy and speak in plain English.....
But at least I know your stand on the flag of your country and how you hate to see people waving it. thread concluded!
If you both understood my points this would be much easier. I agree with the freedom of expression. I disagree with using such freedom to be instigating twats. If the situation was divinely coincidental so be it. If not then I reiterate my lack of respect for such ignorant triviality.
I happen to know of people that live in a significantly "Mexican-American" populated area to know the consequences of their actions and not giving a damn one way or the other causing completely unnecessary physical aggression derived from a complete and utter brainwashed state.
"I said before and I'll say it again" a real American doesn't need to wave a flag because the use of it would have already served it's purpose. What "you" do when "you" wave "your" flags is illustrate just how imperfect "your" country is by suggesting it's use isn't finished. It's tacky and shows ones inability to remain civilized when the entire logic is applied to a lack of prejudice
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Enough of this BS
In light of the foregoing thread, would member conclude that this is a "freedom of expression" issue?
Enough of this BS
Bryn Mawr;1312269 wrote: In light of the foregoing thread, would member conclude that this is a "freedom of expression" issue?
I am surprised she was suspended. They were studying racism. As bad as it is, the klan is a part of our history and a big part of our racist history. Better to get it out in the open and study it than to act like it never happened. She was making a movie with her students on the history of racism in America. The klan is part of that history.
I am surprised she was suspended. They were studying racism. As bad as it is, the klan is a part of our history and a big part of our racist history. Better to get it out in the open and study it than to act like it never happened. She was making a movie with her students on the history of racism in America. The klan is part of that history.
Enough of this BS
YZGI;1309653 wrote: I don't think Raven throws people out of her parties because they wear the colors of their respective countries.
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You are so right. I would never. Besides, if you count alot of the countries over here, (meaning Europe) alot of them are red, white and blue anyway! :p
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You are so right. I would never. Besides, if you count alot of the countries over here, (meaning Europe) alot of them are red, white and blue anyway! :p
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
Enough of this BS
YZGI;1312336 wrote: I am surprised she was suspended. They were studying racism. As bad as it is, the klan is a part of our history and a big part of our racist history. Better to get it out in the open and study it than to act like it never happened. She was making a movie with her students on the history of racism in America. The klan is part of that history.
Were you guys aware of how prevalent the confederate flag is displayed over here? I was shocked the first time I saw it, but it is displayed ALOT. Go figure. What are they trying to say?
Were you guys aware of how prevalent the confederate flag is displayed over here? I was shocked the first time I saw it, but it is displayed ALOT. Go figure. What are they trying to say?
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
Enough of this BS
Raven;1312340 wrote: Were you guys aware of how prevalent the confederate flag is displayed over here? I was shocked the first time I saw it, but it is displayed ALOT. Go figure. What are they trying to say?
It is probably not the confederate flag but a battle flag.
First flag of the Confederacy:
Battle flag:
It is probably not the confederate flag but a battle flag.
First flag of the Confederacy:
Battle flag:
"If America Was A Tree, The Left Would Root For The Termites...Greg Gutfeld."
Enough of this BS
BTS;1312341 wrote: It is probably not the confederate flag but a battle flag.
First flag of the Confederacy:
Battle flag:
Pedantic. You know what I meant. hehehe:rolleyes:
First flag of the Confederacy:
Battle flag:
Pedantic. You know what I meant. hehehe:rolleyes:
~Quoth the Raven, Nevermore!~
Enough of this BS
YZGI;1312336 wrote: I am surprised she was suspended. They were studying racism. As bad as it is, the klan is a part of our history and a big part of our racist history. Better to get it out in the open and study it than to act like it never happened. She was making a movie with her students on the history of racism in America. The klan is part of that history.
Given the history of Georgia, it's a bit like having students dress up like shooters, and walk around the school in Columbine. Sure, it's just a movie and they are going from set to set. Problem is, no one else knows that, do they?
Given the history of Georgia, it's a bit like having students dress up like shooters, and walk around the school in Columbine. Sure, it's just a movie and they are going from set to set. Problem is, no one else knows that, do they?
