Vitiams do they really work
Vitiams do they really work
My husband and I have been taking vitiams. B12, and D and calisum. But do they really work. Are there better vitiams then othere brands.
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actionfigurestepho
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Vitamins really do work.
I was dying of kidney disease, but I didn't know it. All I knew was I was tired, throwing up every other day, incredibly weak and a little green looking. I started taking vitamins and I improved so much that when I finally did go to the hospital (for completely different symptoms) they were amazed that I was upright and fighting with the staff. My tests were so bad I should have been unconscious on the floor. It was all the vitamins that kept me upright!
Plus, if you're prone to hangovers a multivitamin beforehand will really help.
B6 and B12 are great for energy, metabolism and for things like detox, and D is necessary to absorb calcium.
I was dying of kidney disease, but I didn't know it. All I knew was I was tired, throwing up every other day, incredibly weak and a little green looking. I started taking vitamins and I improved so much that when I finally did go to the hospital (for completely different symptoms) they were amazed that I was upright and fighting with the staff. My tests were so bad I should have been unconscious on the floor. It was all the vitamins that kept me upright!
Plus, if you're prone to hangovers a multivitamin beforehand will really help.
B6 and B12 are great for energy, metabolism and for things like detox, and D is necessary to absorb calcium.
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www.lef.org kind of pricy for a non profit. They do sometimes beat the local store price. I'm not an affilate but perhaps I should.
Creatine works but also dehydrates me. Not actually a vitamine. Non protein amino acid I belive.
I generally take the life extension mix and then some fancy more controversal ones on the side.
Creatine works but also dehydrates me. Not actually a vitamine. Non protein amino acid I belive.
I generally take the life extension mix and then some fancy more controversal ones on the side.
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Multi-viamins are great and cheap. I'd take extra calcium, being a woman. And extra vitamin D to absorb the calcium.
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Vitamins in a pill form are usually not 100% absorbed by the body, more often than not you pass some of the vitamin. To ensure 100% absorption you need to drink a liquid form of vitamin such as Boost. Its multi-vitamin with all of the essential minerals and your guaranteed full effect, its more expensive but your not wasting your money either.
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I take a daily dose of Multi vitamins and sometimes Evening primrose..good for the ladies. Cod liver oil is excellent for skin, hair and nail health and sometimes I get a combination. Only 1 a day though...some people take so much stuff they must rattle !!!
Do they work ??? They do for me....at 58 I am extremely healthy apart from high blood pressure which is my own fault for smoking and getting a litle overweight. I do have a 'Flu jab' every autumn offered free at work. I had flu at Christmas about 30 years ago.....woudln't want to go through that again.
Do they work ??? They do for me....at 58 I am extremely healthy apart from high blood pressure which is my own fault for smoking and getting a litle overweight. I do have a 'Flu jab' every autumn offered free at work. I had flu at Christmas about 30 years ago.....woudln't want to go through that again.
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kmhowe72 wrote: My husband and I have been taking vitiams. B12, and D and calisum. But do they really work. Are there better vitiams then othere brands.
hi, randall here,
I, having spent most of my life at sea and away from doctors I have had to, as all seamen have to, take a serious look at our health as you cannot call on a doctor or dentist in the middle of the Pacific - that is , even if you had a wireless to do so - OH YES, circa 1990 I took a harbour tug from Cork, Ireland out to the Philippines without a wireless and without any air conditioning which is very interesting going through the Suez Canal and the length of the Red Sea which is literally a furnace most of the year.
I always carried my own supply of multi vitamins and anti malarial drugs as nowadays, I would say, as seamen are more and more employed through agencies your employers have scant regard for or to you, your health or anything else, including your families.
But I digress, about a year ago my wife and I were asked to take part in a Double Blind Test of the efficacity of multivitamins run by Aberdeen (Scotland) Royal Infirmary. It turned out that my wife was taking vitamins and I was on harmless sugar pills of some sort. "Placebos" I believe they are called.
They have just published their report and their conclusions are that there is no obvious benefit in taking multivitamins - but we have returned to our life long practise of taking vitamins and we also feel that they keep us healthier than the average person around us, especially of the same age - 70+
On a ship in the middle 1990's my Irish second engineer recommended that I start taking "Glucosamine Sulfate" tablets to counteract the wear and tear of joints - I believe that it is a natural substance manufactured by the body anyway and you are merely topping the amount up as you get older. It is sometimes combined with another natural occuring material called CHOINDRION (or something like that) - any pharamcist will tell you the right name.
What I found intersting as I aged in my job was that many of the much younger crew members carried a large variety of painkilling tablets, sprays, deep heat rub and so on which appeared to be a legacy from their youthful sporting days - I never had any!
My Father and his eldest sister both developed PERNICIOUS ANAEMIA in their later years and that is only kept at bay with regular - once every two weeks for example - injections of vitamin B12.
Before Vitamin B12 was discover around about 1940 the disease was a death sentence and some tried to alleviate it by eating about a pound of raw liver every day. My Father died at 90 and his sister at 96!
Scientists eventaully extracted a teaspoonful of white powder from rendering down about a ton of liver and this they named vitamin B12.
Sorry if it seems so gruesome but I happen to be - through a life of poor health - fascinated by the machinations of Doctors and their fellow science researchers.
Without them we would all be much worse off.
I should say that in the conclusion of the afore mentioned study in which my wife and I took part they concluded that there was no adverse effects in taking regular multivitamin pills along with Cod Liver Oil and Halibut Oil Capsules.
It was just that they could not prove there was any ill effects either.
So it could be a case of mind over matter but I prefer to think that they do help.
Hope this helps someone to make up their own mind on the matter.
God bless all
randall
hi, randall here,
I, having spent most of my life at sea and away from doctors I have had to, as all seamen have to, take a serious look at our health as you cannot call on a doctor or dentist in the middle of the Pacific - that is , even if you had a wireless to do so - OH YES, circa 1990 I took a harbour tug from Cork, Ireland out to the Philippines without a wireless and without any air conditioning which is very interesting going through the Suez Canal and the length of the Red Sea which is literally a furnace most of the year.
I always carried my own supply of multi vitamins and anti malarial drugs as nowadays, I would say, as seamen are more and more employed through agencies your employers have scant regard for or to you, your health or anything else, including your families.
But I digress, about a year ago my wife and I were asked to take part in a Double Blind Test of the efficacity of multivitamins run by Aberdeen (Scotland) Royal Infirmary. It turned out that my wife was taking vitamins and I was on harmless sugar pills of some sort. "Placebos" I believe they are called.
They have just published their report and their conclusions are that there is no obvious benefit in taking multivitamins - but we have returned to our life long practise of taking vitamins and we also feel that they keep us healthier than the average person around us, especially of the same age - 70+
On a ship in the middle 1990's my Irish second engineer recommended that I start taking "Glucosamine Sulfate" tablets to counteract the wear and tear of joints - I believe that it is a natural substance manufactured by the body anyway and you are merely topping the amount up as you get older. It is sometimes combined with another natural occuring material called CHOINDRION (or something like that) - any pharamcist will tell you the right name.
What I found intersting as I aged in my job was that many of the much younger crew members carried a large variety of painkilling tablets, sprays, deep heat rub and so on which appeared to be a legacy from their youthful sporting days - I never had any!
My Father and his eldest sister both developed PERNICIOUS ANAEMIA in their later years and that is only kept at bay with regular - once every two weeks for example - injections of vitamin B12.
Before Vitamin B12 was discover around about 1940 the disease was a death sentence and some tried to alleviate it by eating about a pound of raw liver every day. My Father died at 90 and his sister at 96!
Scientists eventaully extracted a teaspoonful of white powder from rendering down about a ton of liver and this they named vitamin B12.
Sorry if it seems so gruesome but I happen to be - through a life of poor health - fascinated by the machinations of Doctors and their fellow science researchers.
Without them we would all be much worse off.
I should say that in the conclusion of the afore mentioned study in which my wife and I took part they concluded that there was no adverse effects in taking regular multivitamin pills along with Cod Liver Oil and Halibut Oil Capsules.
It was just that they could not prove there was any ill effects either.
So it could be a case of mind over matter but I prefer to think that they do help.
Hope this helps someone to make up their own mind on the matter.
God bless all
randall
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If one eats British fresh fruit and vegetables. Get to a good nights sleep,you don't need those pills
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I agree Buzz...but I guess we take this stuff 'just in case'
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Bez wrote: I agree Buzz...but I guess we take this stuff 'just in case'But those pills put on the weight :wah:
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capt_buzzard wrote: But those pills put on the weight :wah:
WHAT.... has this been my problem all these years....God dam it !!!
WHAT.... has this been my problem all these years....God dam it !!!
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Honestly, you would need to see a liscensed nutritionist to be certain. The truth is Americans take way to many vitamins and over the counter extracts. Like one poster mentioned, you should recieve most of your nutrients from your diet, and then if there is something that you stay deficient in, THEN you take a vitamin to supplement because you are probably having problems with an absorption mechanism for one or more specific vitamins. It is a false assumtion that you can not overdose vitamins. Too much vitamin C will give you diarrhea or even weaken your immune system, and too much iron can be fatal (just two of the many examples). There is no mass produced pill that is perfect for everyone as human physiology varies so greatly from person to person. A good diet should be enough. Also if you do see a nutritionist ask about "food combining" and how multi vitamins contain elements that are antagonistic to each other. That is to say, that one nutrient (nutrient A) contained in the multi-vitamin has the function of blocking a second nutrient (nutrient b) also contained in the vitamin. I do agree that if you have to take vitamins that liquids would be more readily absorbed than pills.
To the woman that said:
* My daughter takes a vitamin every morning, She never gets sick!!!
* I NEVER take vitamins.. & I am always sick! This could be detrimental later in life. After it was shown that childhood immunizations actually caused childhood illness during the 80's and early 90's the whole notion of childhood health had to be reconsidered. Now some say that things like immunizations, that alter the childs immune system, makes the child weaker later in life. If every time a child falls their scrape is washed with antibacterial wipes, that childs immune system does not have a chance to build up natural immunities to the dead germs that are in the dirt. So while their scab may get infected their chances of getting sick later in life drop because their immune system grew stronger. If your daughter has a normal white cell count, she would probably be better off with just a good diet, and regular exercise.
To the woman that said:
* My daughter takes a vitamin every morning, She never gets sick!!!
* I NEVER take vitamins.. & I am always sick! This could be detrimental later in life. After it was shown that childhood immunizations actually caused childhood illness during the 80's and early 90's the whole notion of childhood health had to be reconsidered. Now some say that things like immunizations, that alter the childs immune system, makes the child weaker later in life. If every time a child falls their scrape is washed with antibacterial wipes, that childs immune system does not have a chance to build up natural immunities to the dead germs that are in the dirt. So while their scab may get infected their chances of getting sick later in life drop because their immune system grew stronger. If your daughter has a normal white cell count, she would probably be better off with just a good diet, and regular exercise.
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'evenin' all, randall here,
All the views about a proper diet and exercise etc. are interesting but someone who practically never moves from their own locality and life style may be interested in know that not all of us have that luxury.
On the good ship MV "BAUNTON" where no two officers were from the same country we were under a Finnish captain from, I believe, the Finnish Navy who's only idea of victualling a ship was to load the deep freeze with whole sides of meat.
During eight months onboard we ran out of food ( and fuel too - but that is another story) several times.
One example was we loaded six months supplies in Port Elizabeth and by the time we reached Las Palmas in the Canary Islands we had no tea, coffee, sugar, butter, bread, potatoes, vegetables and little of anything else apart from a huge deep freeze full of sides of beef.
The officers united in writing the Master a letter telling him that we would not sail ( we had called in for fuel) unless he took on a complete supply of food.
He reluctantly bought some.
About two months after I joined the ship my electrician Stewart Boone ( of the Daniel Boone family ) from Belfast was taken off the ship in La Specia in Italy and sent home because of dietary deficiency - as he disliked flying he had to travel all the way back home by train and ferryboats.
My wife was with me for the last two months of my time onboard that ship and when we got home we were six weeks under the doctor for dietary deficiency.
If you read the book "CASTAWAY" by Lucy Irvin you will see a very accurate description of the symptoms my wife and I suffered.
That is precisely the reason I said that all seamen had to take great care of their own health because those ashore in the offices have no concern for you.
YOU ARE A SHIP - WE WANT A CARGO TO GET FROM A TO B AND WE DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT AS LONG AS YOU DO IT. AND DO IT QUICKLY - TIME IS MONEY!
Seamen cannot walk out of the factory gate or office door and the office invariably claims that they never received your letters or faxes containing complaints. It is not in their interest to do so.
When they pay off the ship the crew are scattered all over the globe in their own homes and so can never present a united front.
God Bless and God Bless Vitamins.
randall
'evenin' all, randall here,
All the views about a proper diet and exercise etc. are interesting but someone who practically never moves from their own locality and life style may be interested in know that not all of us have that luxury.
On the good ship MV "BAUNTON" where no two officers were from the same country we were under a Finnish captain from, I believe, the Finnish Navy who's only idea of victualling a ship was to load the deep freeze with whole sides of meat.
During eight months onboard we ran out of food ( and fuel too - but that is another story) several times.
One example was we loaded six months supplies in Port Elizabeth and by the time we reached Las Palmas in the Canary Islands we had no tea, coffee, sugar, butter, bread, potatoes, vegetables and little of anything else apart from a huge deep freeze full of sides of beef.
The officers united in writing the Master a letter telling him that we would not sail ( we had called in for fuel) unless he took on a complete supply of food.
He reluctantly bought some.
About two months after I joined the ship my electrician Stewart Boone ( of the Daniel Boone family ) from Belfast was taken off the ship in La Specia in Italy and sent home because of dietary deficiency - as he disliked flying he had to travel all the way back home by train and ferryboats.
My wife was with me for the last two months of my time onboard that ship and when we got home we were six weeks under the doctor for dietary deficiency.
If you read the book "CASTAWAY" by Lucy Irvin you will see a very accurate description of the symptoms my wife and I suffered.
That is precisely the reason I said that all seamen had to take great care of their own health because those ashore in the offices have no concern for you.
YOU ARE A SHIP - WE WANT A CARGO TO GET FROM A TO B AND WE DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT AS LONG AS YOU DO IT. AND DO IT QUICKLY - TIME IS MONEY!
Seamen cannot walk out of the factory gate or office door and the office invariably claims that they never received your letters or faxes containing complaints. It is not in their interest to do so.
When they pay off the ship the crew are scattered all over the globe in their own homes and so can never present a united front.
God Bless and God Bless Vitamins.
randall
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Yes, I swear by Nature Made's Multi-Vitamins for women. My monthly bills were becoming irregular and really slow to start and just dragging. This had happened for about three months. They would last for two weeks, no lie, because of the way they were dragging -- five days is my norm. This is more than you all need to know, but the point is: Vitamins do work. When I started taking these vitamins, the problem completely disappeared!
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The point wasn't that all vitamins are bad, the point was that your diet should comprise as many of your nutrients as possible, so the vitamins can be digested and assimilated naturally. This process effects other areas of health. And also I wanted to point out that simply taking in fewer calories will not make you lose weight in any significant or permenant way. You must also alter the metabolic rate of the body in a positive manner. Simply taking in too few calories can actually slow the metabolic rate.
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randall wrote: :-5
'evenin' all, randall here,...............................
God Bless and God Bless Vitamins.
randall
Am i alone in relishing this old sea salts posts??:-4
'evenin' all, randall here,...............................
God Bless and God Bless Vitamins.
randall
Am i alone in relishing this old sea salts posts??:-4
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They sure do work for the people that make them. It's a multi billion dollar business. As for the rest of us? Despite the fact that I have a pretty balanced diet, I take a daily multi-vitamin. Some folks go over board I believe and take way more than is required of a specific mineral. The body will just sluff it off and it some cases it can be dangerous.
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The most common nutrutional deffiency is water AKA dehydration.
Feeling a tad dehydrated myself now that I think about it.
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Feeling a tad dehydrated myself now that I think about it.
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Getting extra vitamin B before going to sleep after a night of drinking will help prevent or ease hangovers.
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Dear Abbey,
randall would like you to know that you are not the only one who reads his "posts".
Several have send me private messages.
Thanks a million for your concern ad noticing it.
God Bless.
randall
Dear Abbey,
randall would like you to know that you are not the only one who reads his "posts".
Several have send me private messages.
Thanks a million for your concern ad noticing it.
God Bless.
randall
Vitiams do they really work
Once upon a time, most folk grew their own food in the garden. They knew exactly what was in it because they took care of the soil, manured it, and fertilised it. Now, most people buy their food from the supermarkets.
Buying food is ok except that we don't really know how it's grown. Even organic food is to be viewed with suspicion as the term simply means that it has to be grown in dirt. This doesn't mean that it has to be fertilised.
In recent years, as I have been driving to work, my nose has been assaulted by the most offensive smells in the months after the harvest. In 2002 my commute took me through Buckinghamshire and it used to smell like I was driving in a sewer. A year later I doscovered that the farmers were actually using silage to manure the soil. It was claimed to be a good source of nutrients. This year, I am commuting in Bedfordshire and it smells disgusting. Neither does it smell like it has had time to ferment.
In the past, the smell of manure was never pleasant, but it was regular and you got used to it. Now, it's different each year and it cloys at the nose and the throat.
It is still necessary to eat food if for no other reason than to keep the system moving. But I don't trust it as a reliable source of nutrition anymore.
I started taking vitamins and minerals about 3 years ago. The effect wasn't noticeable. Two years ago, I started taking a liquid ionised multimineral. I lost nearly 2 stone in the first month, then went up to a steady 11 stone.
This year, I had to take warfarin to control a blood clot. Warfarin reacts with some vitamins so I dropped the course. I may not have noticed a change when I started taking the vitamins and minerals, but I sure noticed it when I stopped. Not only that, but I have actually had the flu, something I haven't experienced for a long time.
This all may be in the mind. There is a school of thought that believes that everything that is needed can be manufactured by the body on command. All that is required is to focus the mind in a positive way. If this is so, we could save ourselves a lot of money. The idea may be farfetched, but there may be a small element of truth in it. Experiments have shown how pain can differ according to how a person feels emotionally.
I was told to stop taking the warfarin a week ago last Friday.
Food for thought.
Buying food is ok except that we don't really know how it's grown. Even organic food is to be viewed with suspicion as the term simply means that it has to be grown in dirt. This doesn't mean that it has to be fertilised.
In recent years, as I have been driving to work, my nose has been assaulted by the most offensive smells in the months after the harvest. In 2002 my commute took me through Buckinghamshire and it used to smell like I was driving in a sewer. A year later I doscovered that the farmers were actually using silage to manure the soil. It was claimed to be a good source of nutrients. This year, I am commuting in Bedfordshire and it smells disgusting. Neither does it smell like it has had time to ferment.
In the past, the smell of manure was never pleasant, but it was regular and you got used to it. Now, it's different each year and it cloys at the nose and the throat.
It is still necessary to eat food if for no other reason than to keep the system moving. But I don't trust it as a reliable source of nutrition anymore.
I started taking vitamins and minerals about 3 years ago. The effect wasn't noticeable. Two years ago, I started taking a liquid ionised multimineral. I lost nearly 2 stone in the first month, then went up to a steady 11 stone.
This year, I had to take warfarin to control a blood clot. Warfarin reacts with some vitamins so I dropped the course. I may not have noticed a change when I started taking the vitamins and minerals, but I sure noticed it when I stopped. Not only that, but I have actually had the flu, something I haven't experienced for a long time.
This all may be in the mind. There is a school of thought that believes that everything that is needed can be manufactured by the body on command. All that is required is to focus the mind in a positive way. If this is so, we could save ourselves a lot of money. The idea may be farfetched, but there may be a small element of truth in it. Experiments have shown how pain can differ according to how a person feels emotionally.
I was told to stop taking the warfarin a week ago last Friday.
Food for thought.
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Valid question.
I own a vitamin company and formulate supplements. Any good sceptic would point to that as a conflict of interest, with some validity.
On the other hand, if I had wanted to get rich quick, I would have chosen another field of endeavor.
I chose this path because it's the right one. There's a lot of myth and misinformation on both sides of the fence.
The statistical evidence is pretty overwheming; people who take vitamins live longer, have fewer health problems, and enjoy a better quality of life than those who don't.
The reasons for this are several. People who take vitamins tend to do other health positive things as well, such as better nutrition, more exercise, they smoke less, etc.
The truth is that all of these things, including supplementing correctly, contribute to a better quality of life.
The problem comes from the marketing on both sides of the aisle. Dueling scientists from the drug industry and the natural products industry line up and essentially say hooray for our side, by distorting the facts to fit their agenda.
It's very confusing for the layman, to say the least.
Supplements themselves vary widely in their efficacy. Centrum, thragran, and their ilk, are made by drug cos. and don't really count. They have virtually nothing in them and are constructed so they will not absorb.
The strategy to employ is to develop a relationship with a practitioner who understands you, first, and also understands supplements; how they do and don't work. An assesment of your individual metabolic nature is essential for the correct recomendations. Reading the latest article in Prevention is just hyping the benefits of an individual nutrient. That nutrient doesn't work in a vacuum. It has teammates. They need to be there, too.
It's not about the pill, it's about you.
If you have questions, feel free to email me. You can also call 1-800-543-5710
peace
Rik
I own a vitamin company and formulate supplements. Any good sceptic would point to that as a conflict of interest, with some validity.
On the other hand, if I had wanted to get rich quick, I would have chosen another field of endeavor.
I chose this path because it's the right one. There's a lot of myth and misinformation on both sides of the fence.
The statistical evidence is pretty overwheming; people who take vitamins live longer, have fewer health problems, and enjoy a better quality of life than those who don't.
The reasons for this are several. People who take vitamins tend to do other health positive things as well, such as better nutrition, more exercise, they smoke less, etc.
The truth is that all of these things, including supplementing correctly, contribute to a better quality of life.
The problem comes from the marketing on both sides of the aisle. Dueling scientists from the drug industry and the natural products industry line up and essentially say hooray for our side, by distorting the facts to fit their agenda.
It's very confusing for the layman, to say the least.
Supplements themselves vary widely in their efficacy. Centrum, thragran, and their ilk, are made by drug cos. and don't really count. They have virtually nothing in them and are constructed so they will not absorb.
The strategy to employ is to develop a relationship with a practitioner who understands you, first, and also understands supplements; how they do and don't work. An assesment of your individual metabolic nature is essential for the correct recomendations. Reading the latest article in Prevention is just hyping the benefits of an individual nutrient. That nutrient doesn't work in a vacuum. It has teammates. They need to be there, too.
It's not about the pill, it's about you.
If you have questions, feel free to email me. You can also call 1-800-543-5710
peace
Rik