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The changes implied by Edgar Cayce's readings would involve far more than the isolated-earthquake, land, deformation, and flooding scenario modeled by the Utah scientists. A new interpretation of the readings is that catastrophic earthquakes and flooding may occur in the land areas around Great Salt Lake and Utah Lake in Utah, around and below Lake Mead in far southern Nevada, and along those land areas fronting the Pacific Ocean in southern California. Such inundations could directly or indirectly affect population centers like Bringham City, Salt lake City, Murray, Orem, and Provo in Utah, Las Vegas in Nevada, and the cities of coastal California from Santa Barbara south to San Diego.
Thus, we now have two ways of interpreting the "inundation by the earthquakes" language of the readings. And the ambiguity of the phraseology used seems to have allowed science to catch up to the readings, here in our current day. As if to bolster the interpretation at this critical time, there is new global-scale seismic tomography evidence for deep mantle circulation of unprecedented proportion.
There's no question that the language of the readings can be quite challenging at times, as outlined in the examples above. But in continually trying to understand, we may in fact get understanding, often in unexpected ways. Here, recent scientific findings are accommodated by seemingly obscure phrases in the readings, many years after Edgar Cayce gave them. Were certain of the readings intentionally constructed this way? If so, we may have insight here from the promise that, "We may find a great deal of the activities as have been wrought by the gradual changes that are coming about", and as has been indicated, we will eventually begin to fully understand them soon.
Thus, we now have two ways of interpreting the "inundation by the earthquakes" language of the readings. And the ambiguity of the phraseology used seems to have allowed science to catch up to the readings, here in our current day. As if to bolster the interpretation at this critical time, there is new global-scale seismic tomography evidence for deep mantle circulation of unprecedented proportion.
There's no question that the language of the readings can be quite challenging at times, as outlined in the examples above. But in continually trying to understand, we may in fact get understanding, often in unexpected ways. Here, recent scientific findings are accommodated by seemingly obscure phrases in the readings, many years after Edgar Cayce gave them. Were certain of the readings intentionally constructed this way? If so, we may have insight here from the promise that, "We may find a great deal of the activities as have been wrought by the gradual changes that are coming about", and as has been indicated, we will eventually begin to fully understand them soon.
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Nomad;1296275 wrote: No really...Im just being glib. Hows Minnesota, are we going to be ok?You'll be under thirty feet of pumice and ash when Yellowstone blows, I can't believe you deliberately live that close to the only active mega-volcano on the planet.
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spot;1296313 wrote: You'll be under thirty feet of pumice and ash when Yellowstone blows, I can't believe you deliberately live that close to the only active mega-volcano on the planet.
Thats bad right?
Thats bad right?
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Nomad;1296469 wrote: Thats bad right?
I'm trying to think of an up to counterbalance the assorted downs.
I'll get back to you.
I'm trying to think of an up to counterbalance the assorted downs.
I'll get back to you.
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spot;1296473 wrote: I'm trying to think of an up to counterbalance the assorted downs.
I'll get back to you.
Even the Chinese cant do fireworks like that.
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What are the chances of "an inundation of the southern coast of California" due to Earthquakes, as mentioned in Edgar Caye's readings? Have there ever been any earthquakes and associated tsunamis (seismic sea waves) there before? Yes indeed.
But first, just what are tsunamis? (The word is Japanese for tsu harbor + nami wave). A tsunami (pronounced tsoo-nah-mee) is a series of waves, generated in a body of water by an impulsive disturbance that vertically displaces ocean water. Sea-floor movements accompanying earthquakes are the most common cause of tsunamis. But landslides into the sea, submarine land-slides, explosive submarine volcanic eruptions, and generated tsunamis are the greatest threat to the U.S. coast lines, but tsunamis originating at a distance are also a constant threat. The U.S. has suffered major damage from tsunamis originating in Chile, Japan, Russia, and Alaska. Eventually tsunamis will strike all U.S. Pacific Ocean coastlines.
Because the readings refer to tsunamis generated by local Earthquakes, it's important to cite details for several here to give folks an idea of the historical numbers and effects. In the next few posts I will attempt to cover this as quickly as possible.
But first, just what are tsunamis? (The word is Japanese for tsu harbor + nami wave). A tsunami (pronounced tsoo-nah-mee) is a series of waves, generated in a body of water by an impulsive disturbance that vertically displaces ocean water. Sea-floor movements accompanying earthquakes are the most common cause of tsunamis. But landslides into the sea, submarine land-slides, explosive submarine volcanic eruptions, and generated tsunamis are the greatest threat to the U.S. coast lines, but tsunamis originating at a distance are also a constant threat. The U.S. has suffered major damage from tsunamis originating in Chile, Japan, Russia, and Alaska. Eventually tsunamis will strike all U.S. Pacific Ocean coastlines.
Because the readings refer to tsunamis generated by local Earthquakes, it's important to cite details for several here to give folks an idea of the historical numbers and effects. In the next few posts I will attempt to cover this as quickly as possible.
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As covered in Tsunamis Affecting the West Coast of the United States: 1806-1992, the Santa Barbara tsunami of December 21, 1812, was most probably caused by a submarine landslide in the Santa Barbara basin. This landslide was believed due to an Earthquake estimated at M 7.7 and originating on the San Andreas fault. The maximum wave height was about 15 feet or so, and is said to have reached half a mile inland. Submarine landslide tsunamis in California typically have waves with a maximum wave amplitude of 10 feet and affect a very restricted area. The tsunami of November 4th, 1927, was such a one and affected about 35 miles of shoreline. It was recorded as a six-foot wave at Surf, just north of Pt. Arguello near Santa Barbara, and as a five-foot surge at Port San Luis. Near Los Angeles on July 10, 1855, four Earthquakes generated a "probable submarine landslide and local tsunami." On May 27th, 1862, an M 5.9 Earthquake at San Diego caused the only local tsunami observed there. On august 30, 1930, an M 5.2 Earthquake caused a 20-foot wave at Santa Monica, Venice, and Redondo Beach: "Probably a submarine landslide source given the low magnitude of the Earthquake and localized effect. Sixteen people were rescued from the surf. One drowned at Redondo Beach. These few representative records show that local tsunami inundations "by the earthquakes" are quite possible for the southern coast of California.
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In all, some 21 locally generated tsunamis of various destructive power have been documented for the southern California coast between 1806 and 1992. Although this coast seems safe from locally generated tsunamis relative to the coasts of, say, Japan or Alaska, the dangers from large tsunamis cannot be ignored. D.S. McCullough, in a U.S. Geological Survey report on tsunamis along the Pacific coast, says that "a preliminary appraisal of the potential for locally generated tsunamis suggests that "Wave run up heights as great as four to six meters," or 13 to 20 feet, could be caused by seabed movements due to Earthquakes. Such waves are not in the same league with the giant tsunamis that hit Hawaii in 1946 and 1975, but even a five or six feet tsunami can cause widespread damage in a harbor or along a heavily settled stretch of coastline.
One tsunami prone area in southern California is located off Santa Barbara where the offshore area has created an odd set of conditions with the potential for making large seismic sea waves. Quoting a report on his book Superquake! (Crown, N.Y. 1988). "Surface fault rupture accompanied by sea-floor displacement is a distinct possibility beneath the Santa Barbara Channel. To put it another way, a big quake on land could set off another quake under the sea and thus send tsunamis rolling toward the California shore." Support for this view is found in J. Deng and L. Sykes's recent study of the 200-year evolution of the crustal stress field in southern California (Jour. Geophysical Research, v. 102, B5, May 10, 1997). The authors write: "Future great earthquakes along the San Andreas fault, especially if the San Bernadino and Coachella Valley segments rupture together, can trigger moderate to large Earthquakes in the Transverse Ranges, as appears to have happened in the Santa Barbara Earthquake that occurred 13 days after the great San Andreas shock of 1812."
One tsunami prone area in southern California is located off Santa Barbara where the offshore area has created an odd set of conditions with the potential for making large seismic sea waves. Quoting a report on his book Superquake! (Crown, N.Y. 1988). "Surface fault rupture accompanied by sea-floor displacement is a distinct possibility beneath the Santa Barbara Channel. To put it another way, a big quake on land could set off another quake under the sea and thus send tsunamis rolling toward the California shore." Support for this view is found in J. Deng and L. Sykes's recent study of the 200-year evolution of the crustal stress field in southern California (Jour. Geophysical Research, v. 102, B5, May 10, 1997). The authors write: "Future great earthquakes along the San Andreas fault, especially if the San Bernadino and Coachella Valley segments rupture together, can trigger moderate to large Earthquakes in the Transverse Ranges, as appears to have happened in the Santa Barbara Earthquake that occurred 13 days after the great San Andreas shock of 1812."
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We should also take note in passing that another kind of inundation that could occur would be due to flooding by reservoir waters released when Earthquakes cause dams to fail. Several stream-dammed reservoirs are located in the coastal zone of southern California.
If the ultimate cause of the tsunamis mentioned for the meaning of the Edgar Cayce readings is an acceleration of lithospheric plate movements incident to Pole-Shift, there is one last, far-out possibility to consider. And it ties into the last sentence of the reading which indicates that the effects of the inundations by the Earthquakes will be felt more in the Southern Hemisphere. This understanding of the phrase "inundation by the earthquakes" would relate to tsunamis generated from different sources. If "the greater portion of Japan (goes quickly) into the sea," or if a huge piece of Kilauea volcano, Hawaii, suddenly slides into the Pacific, highly energetic tsunamis would be generated that would strongly impact the southern California shoreline and those of Central and South America.
Indeed, the coast of southern California has experienced no less than 44 tsunamis generated by earthquakes or submarine landslides beyond the U.S. Pacific coast (excluding Alaska) between 1806 and 1992. These waves have traveled from Japan, coastal Alaska, Chile, the Kuril Islands, the Java sea, El Salvador, and other places. Many of the 44 tsunamis of distant origin that hit the coast of southern California were recorded only as minor excursions on tide-gage records. But consider what could happen as accelerating mantle motions cause Earthquakes and landslides at currently erupting volcanoes like Kilauea, Hawaii. The seismic hazard for the southern portions of Hawaii rivals that of the area around the San Andreas fault in California, according to F. Klein, seismologist with the U. S. Geological Survey. And geophysicists in early 1997 were measuring progressive seaward displacements of the land portion of Kilauea's southeastern flank.
If the ultimate cause of the tsunamis mentioned for the meaning of the Edgar Cayce readings is an acceleration of lithospheric plate movements incident to Pole-Shift, there is one last, far-out possibility to consider. And it ties into the last sentence of the reading which indicates that the effects of the inundations by the Earthquakes will be felt more in the Southern Hemisphere. This understanding of the phrase "inundation by the earthquakes" would relate to tsunamis generated from different sources. If "the greater portion of Japan (goes quickly) into the sea," or if a huge piece of Kilauea volcano, Hawaii, suddenly slides into the Pacific, highly energetic tsunamis would be generated that would strongly impact the southern California shoreline and those of Central and South America.
Indeed, the coast of southern California has experienced no less than 44 tsunamis generated by earthquakes or submarine landslides beyond the U.S. Pacific coast (excluding Alaska) between 1806 and 1992. These waves have traveled from Japan, coastal Alaska, Chile, the Kuril Islands, the Java sea, El Salvador, and other places. Many of the 44 tsunamis of distant origin that hit the coast of southern California were recorded only as minor excursions on tide-gage records. But consider what could happen as accelerating mantle motions cause Earthquakes and landslides at currently erupting volcanoes like Kilauea, Hawaii. The seismic hazard for the southern portions of Hawaii rivals that of the area around the San Andreas fault in California, according to F. Klein, seismologist with the U. S. Geological Survey. And geophysicists in early 1997 were measuring progressive seaward displacements of the land portion of Kilauea's southeastern flank.
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First, note that the tsunami of December 21st, 1812, traveled all the way from Santa Barbara, California, to Hookena, Kona, Hawaii, where the wave run-up height was estimated at between six and fourteen feet. Now let's reverse the California to Hawaii tsunami travel direction. Suppose that a giant submarine landslide occurs on the southeastern flank of Kilauea and generates a large tsunami. The coastlines of Peru and Chile would receive the brunt of such a tsunami, but the coast of southern California would also be affected. Recall the words of Edgar Cayce's reading: "But these (inundations by the earthquakes), are to be more in the Southern than in the Northern Hemisphere."
In their paper, "Giant Hawaiian Landslides" (Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Science, 1994) J. Moore, and others, documented dozens of major landslides that have recently been discovered on the flanks of the Hawaiian Ridge. They are among the largest on Earth, attaining lengths greater than 200km and volumes of several thousand cubic kilometers. The authors write that rapid movement of some of the submarine debris avalanches "is indicated by the fact that some have moved uphill for tens of kilometers, and are believed to have produced major tsunamis."
In their paper, "Giant Hawaiian Landslides" (Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Science, 1994) J. Moore, and others, documented dozens of major landslides that have recently been discovered on the flanks of the Hawaiian Ridge. They are among the largest on Earth, attaining lengths greater than 200km and volumes of several thousand cubic kilometers. The authors write that rapid movement of some of the submarine debris avalanches "is indicated by the fact that some have moved uphill for tens of kilometers, and are believed to have produced major tsunamis."
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Now just to cover these possibilities related to Edgar Cayce's readings, let's think about the word Pelee. In Polynesian mythology, Pele was the fire goddess who inhabited the crater of Kilauea volcano, causing it to erupt during her jealous rages. Thus, the phrase, "great activities in the vesuvius or Pelee" might also be referring to "the domain of the Pele," on Kilauea volcano on the Big Island of Hawaii.
Once mantle movement incident to Pole-Shift begins to affect sensitive calderas, and Volcanoes like Vesuvius, and Torrid-Zone Pelee and Kilauea, "inundations by the earthquakes" will become almost commonplace. The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory calls Kilauea "the nations deadliest volcano," pointing out - among several other deadly events documented by the Observatory - that 46 people perished along Kilauea's coastline in 1868, when a huge Earthquake caused widespread shaking, coastal subsidence, and a tsunami that destroyed several villages.
So that's it for the California posts my friends. As I said before I have done my best to warn the residents that live in these areas of the impending disasters, but I know that there will be people who will choose not to listen to these warnings. Aside from getting some of the people I know to dress up in suits, renting a few limos, buying the most realistic Obama mask I can find, driving into the heart of California, getting up on a podium (wearing the mask), and yelling to all the residents of California to "get the **** out", there isn't much more I can do. So I'll leave it at that.
Once mantle movement incident to Pole-Shift begins to affect sensitive calderas, and Volcanoes like Vesuvius, and Torrid-Zone Pelee and Kilauea, "inundations by the earthquakes" will become almost commonplace. The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory calls Kilauea "the nations deadliest volcano," pointing out - among several other deadly events documented by the Observatory - that 46 people perished along Kilauea's coastline in 1868, when a huge Earthquake caused widespread shaking, coastal subsidence, and a tsunami that destroyed several villages.
So that's it for the California posts my friends. As I said before I have done my best to warn the residents that live in these areas of the impending disasters, but I know that there will be people who will choose not to listen to these warnings. Aside from getting some of the people I know to dress up in suits, renting a few limos, buying the most realistic Obama mask I can find, driving into the heart of California, getting up on a podium (wearing the mask), and yelling to all the residents of California to "get the **** out", there isn't much more I can do. So I'll leave it at that.
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spot;1296313 wrote: You'll be under thirty feet of pumice and ash when Yellowstone blows, I can't believe you deliberately live that close to the only active mega-volcano on the planet.
I think it is important to note that I have never seen any psychic/prophetic source that I have studied and who gave predictions/prophecies for our current time period ever mention anything about the Yellowstone Volcano erupting during our lifetimes. Not a single source. Not Jean Dixon, not Edgar Cayce, not Nostradamus, not any biblical sources, not Sylvia Brown, not Ruth Montgomery, not any of the Native American elders/prophets, no one. None of them ever mentioned a word about the Yellowstone Volcano erupting anytime soon, or made any direct reference to it. So that has to count for something.
I'm not saying it won't happen at all, but I am saying that it does seem that it wasn't important enough for any of the above sources to speak about. The only people I have ever heard say that there is a high chance of the Yellowstone Volcano erupting anytime soon has been perhaps researchers and scientific sources. But, like I said before, it never came out of the mouth of any of the sources I use for the predictions/prophecies that I post. Which causes me to lean to the side of it not happening anytime soon. Which is why I still believe that the safety lands that I posted in this thread are still going to be better areas to move to as we approach December 21st, 2012.
On the other hand, every single source that I just listed has given some sort of reference in one way or another to the fact that we are due to experience a Pole-Shift within all of our lifetimes.
So Pole-Shift, yes. But Yellowstone Volcano? I wouldn't put too much energy and focus into being concerned about that happening.
I think it is important to note that I have never seen any psychic/prophetic source that I have studied and who gave predictions/prophecies for our current time period ever mention anything about the Yellowstone Volcano erupting during our lifetimes. Not a single source. Not Jean Dixon, not Edgar Cayce, not Nostradamus, not any biblical sources, not Sylvia Brown, not Ruth Montgomery, not any of the Native American elders/prophets, no one. None of them ever mentioned a word about the Yellowstone Volcano erupting anytime soon, or made any direct reference to it. So that has to count for something.
I'm not saying it won't happen at all, but I am saying that it does seem that it wasn't important enough for any of the above sources to speak about. The only people I have ever heard say that there is a high chance of the Yellowstone Volcano erupting anytime soon has been perhaps researchers and scientific sources. But, like I said before, it never came out of the mouth of any of the sources I use for the predictions/prophecies that I post. Which causes me to lean to the side of it not happening anytime soon. Which is why I still believe that the safety lands that I posted in this thread are still going to be better areas to move to as we approach December 21st, 2012.
On the other hand, every single source that I just listed has given some sort of reference in one way or another to the fact that we are due to experience a Pole-Shift within all of our lifetimes.
So Pole-Shift, yes. But Yellowstone Volcano? I wouldn't put too much energy and focus into being concerned about that happening.
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But Yellowstone Volcano? I wouldn't put too much energy and focus into being concerned about that happening.
In truth its not a matter of if but when.
In truth its not a matter of if but when.
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