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I realise the MTV awards were aired some time ago, mid September, but I didn't watch them. I caught a few minutes of a rerun while channel surfing and what a shocking few minutes.

Everyone was talking afterwards about Kanye West's major faux pas regarding Taylor Swift but somehow the host, Russell Brand, making a joke about date raping Megan Fox was not worthy of criticism.

This was the few minutes I was subjected to:

“She has admitted she is a little bit cuckoo upstairs and I have trained in psychiatry. So Megan, if you do have a little dizzy spell love, I could probably drop you a little pill. You can go and have a lie down in my dressing room. You might get some crazy dreams about being visited by a scarecrow, a perfumed weirdo leaning over you. But let me tell you, that’s a common side-effect. Megan, take your medicine.

I was still shocked a few days later and finally had to look it up to find out what awards show I'd been watching. Thankfully a few other people were outraged enough to post about it too. Rape is a Crime – Not a Punch Line is where I got the quote from.

No media seem to have thought it was worth mentioning.
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koan;1273383 wrote: I realise the MTV awards were aired some time ago, mid September, but I didn't watch them. I caught a few minutes of a rerun while channel surfing and what a shocking few minutes.

Everyone was talking afterwards about Kanye West's major faux pas regarding Taylor Swift but somehow the host, Russell Brand, making a joke about date raping Megan Fox was not worthy of criticism.

This was the few minutes I was subjected to:

“She has admitted she is a little bit cuckoo upstairs and I have trained in psychiatry. So Megan, if you do have a little dizzy spell love, I could probably drop you a little pill. You can go and have a lie down in my dressing room. You might get some crazy dreams about being visited by a scarecrow, a perfumed weirdo leaning over you. But let me tell you, that’s a common side-effect. Megan, take your medicine.”

I was still shocked a few days later and finally had to look it up to find out what awards show I'd been watching. Thankfully a few other people were outraged enough to post about it too. Rape is a Crime – Not a Punch Line is where I got the quote from.

No media seem to have thought it was worth mentioning.Are you certain its a reference to a date rape drug?
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WHAT???!!!!! Holy crap!!! why is this stuff aired?



maybe so we can tell our children it's crap ? but considering the only thing being talked about is what you've mentioned, then ...oh god what are we to do?
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Ahso!;1273385 wrote: Are you certain its a reference to a date rape drug?


OH please ahso ..(still won't mention what that sounds like ) I didn't think you an idiot.
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fuzzywuzzy;1273387 wrote: OH please ahso ..(still won't mention what that sounds like ) I didn't think you an idiot.Sorry, I'm not familiar with the lingo. Perhaps you can break it down for me? How do you know its not a reference to something we may be unaware of?

For all I know, the girl may have slept with a psychiatrist or is on a medication. What does the metaphor of a scarecrow and perfume smell mean?
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Ahso!;1273385 wrote: Are you certain its a reference to a date rape drug?


It seems pretty obvious to me. What other type of "little pill" do you think he was implying that would have her lying on his couch in a confused state?
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Rohypnol has physiological effects similar to Valium (diazepam), but is approximately ten times more potent.

Intoxication is generally associated with impaired judgment and motor skills. The drug has no taste or odor, so those given it don't realize what is happening. About ten minutes after ingesting the drug, a woman may feel dizzy and disoriented, simultaneously too hot and too cold, and/or nauseated. She may experience difficulty speaking and moving, and then pass out. Effects peak within two hours, and can persist for up to eight hours. Such victims have no memories of what happened while under the drug's influence.

The scarecrow imagery would have been the attempt at humour.
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koan;1273393 wrote: Rohypnol has physiological effects similar to Valium (diazepam), but is approximately ten times more potent.

Intoxication is generally associated with impaired judgment and motor skills. The drug has no taste or odor, so those given it don't realize what is happening. About ten minutes after ingesting the drug, a woman may feel dizzy and disoriented, simultaneously too hot and too cold, and/or nauseated. She may experience difficulty speaking and moving, and then pass out. Effects peak within two hours, and can persist for up to eight hours. Such victims have no memories of what happened while under the drug's influence.

The scarecrow imagery would have been the attempt at humour.You may very well be correct. then again it may be just a young idiot mouthing off in front of a camera.

though I don't have a problem with calling the kid to task for the remark, and if it is what you say - then MTV should be shut down for not editing it out and firing the little bastard.
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then MTV should be shut down for not editing it out and firing the little bastard.


thank you that was my point.
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Firing the bastard, yes.

Editing I'm not so sure about. I think it's better to deal with the **** people say and provide a responsible reaction instead of pretending people don't say or think it.

Ideally he'd have been thrown off the show after the comments were made. I believe Kanye West was removed after his stunt with Taylor Swift. With all the controversy that happens on awards shows you'd think they'd keep emergency backup emcees standing by.
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More rape jokes by Brand:

COMIC RUSSELL BRAND was condemned by rape charities yesterday after he rang a sex attack hotline during a gig.

Brand, 33, borrowed a mobile phone from an audience member to call the police number.

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But Lynda Yorke, of Leicester Rape Crisis, said last night: "I don't think it's amusing. It's in very poor taste.

"The issue of sexual assault is often belittled and such callous behaviour is extremely hurtful to the victims."

Brand later apologised, saying: "I am devastated by the possibility I may have offended vulnerable people."


Russell Brand blasted by charities for calling sex attack line during gig | The Sun |Showbiz|Bizarre

Guess he wasn't devastated enough.

Interestingly enough, he was accused of using a date rape drug in 2007 and was awarded damages

Comedian Russell Brand has accepted substantial damages over claims a girl was drugged and raped during a party at his flat during the Edinburgh Festival.

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The letter [from his solicitor] noted that the Daily Star suggested Mr Brand had contradicted his publicly expressed abhorrence of drugs by using them to facilitate rape.
BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Brand receives rape claim damages

hmmmm. He seems to have changed his public stance after the fact.

Maybe he thought it was funny because his colleague was the one who actually did it:

A colleague of TV presenter and comic Russell Brand has been arrested and charge in connection with an alleged rape that took place after Brand celebrated the end of his run at the Edinburgh Comedy Festival last month.

A 20 year old woman claimed earlier this month that someone slipped a date rape drug into her drink at a party hosted by Brand at his rented flat in Edinburgh.
Russell Brand's Colleague Arrested And Charged Over Rape Claim - Celebrity Gossip, News & Photos, Movie Reviews, Competitions - Entertainmentwise

You'd have thought that after all of that, he'd be a little more sensitive to the issue. His callousness makes me question his innocence of the whole sordid event.
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koan;1273393 wrote:



The scarecrow imagery would have been the attempt at humour.Have you ever seen Russell Brand?

Surely the reference is to himself.



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abbey;1273419 wrote: Have you ever seen Russell Brand?

Surely the reference is to himself.



You're probably right about that, Abbey! So Koan's interpretation fits. This kind of stuff ties me up in knots.
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I'm more shocked to see that Brand keeps getting the gig.......He's a moronic, extremely un funny tosser..

This is the 08 MTV Awards.

Americans not sold on Russell Brand’s brand of humour - Times Online




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Some other dim-wits are probably telling this dim-wit that being more outrageous is the way to success and attention.

I bet the only reason this idiot is in the limelight at all is because he resembles Johnny Depp.
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