why is it if you did not have a dog people would just walk past you not so much as a nod or a hello ,then if you are with your dog everyone suddenly starts talking to you:):)
and dog owners think you are the bees knees and it takes ages to take your dog for a walk as they all keep stopping you and talking to you :yh_rotfl
but if you never had a dog they would just walk by
farmer giles;1207945 wrote: why is it if you did not have a dog people would just walk past you not so much as a nod or a hello ,then if you are with your dog everyone suddenly starts talking to you:):)
and dog owners think you are the bees knees and it takes ages to take your dog for a walk as they all keep stopping you and talking to you :yh_rotfl
but if you never had a dog they would just walk by
i mean its not as if your dog can talk is it
strange lot us dog owners :yh_rotfl
This is so true! Whenever I used to walk my mum's dog the other dog owners would always stop for a chat. Most of them also knew our dog and would ask if mum was okay as she normally took the dog walkies. Dog owners are friendly people. :-6
Maybe if you and Oscar got an online pup each, Jimbo, you could become friendlier to each other as you both picked up the virtual poop. :wah:
hoppy;1207994 wrote: All us vulture people get is complaints. Neighbors complain because our pet vultures bring home road kill and it stinks and draws flies.
Imagine the complaints of the smell if ya owned a cow!!!!!
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Rapunzel;1207965 wrote: This is so true! Whenever I used to walk my mum's dog the other dog owners would always stop for a chat. Most of them also knew our dog and would ask if mum was okay as she normally took the dog walkies. Dog owners are friendly people. :-6
Maybe if you and Oscar got an online pup each, Jimbo, you could become friendlier to each other as you both picked up the virtual poop. :wah:
who :yh_rotfl
i have just used caneston ... this irritant is no longer a problem ;)
of course if i had posted that there would of been an fg lynch mob at my pm box by now
but in all honesty i found that post not nice yet i dont seem to mind eating a poor little chicken that has been kept in cage and has most probably never seen the light of day and has been kept in horrid hell like conditions
of course if i had posted that there would of been an fg lynch mob at my pm box by now
but in all honesty i found that post not nice yet i dont seem to mind eating a poor little chicken that has been kept in cage and has most probably never seen the light of day and has been kept in horrid hell like conditions
what a hypocrite i am
ye im always saying that as well Jimbo
as for the topic,, yes almost all other dog owners will at the very least acknowledge you ,,, of course some keep their distance as my dog is a staffie:rolleyes: (ask Jess ) even though their dog might be barking like mad and mine si just walking on by:wah: The best ones are though when people actually ackowledge my dog,, even talk to my dog ,, and practically ignore me altogether:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
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kazalala;1208139 wrote: ye im always saying that as well Jimbo
as for the topic,, yes almost all other dog owners will at the very least acknowledge you ,,, of course some keep their distance as my dog is a staffie:rolleyes: (ask Jess ) even though their dog might be barking like mad and mine si just walking on by:wah: The best ones are though when people actually ackowledge my dog,, even talk to my dog ,, and practically ignore me altogether:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
hi si the staffy how are you ,your owner looks glum ,she must spend to much time making trouble on fg :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
of course if i had posted that there would of been an fg lynch mob at my pm box by now
but in all honesty i found that post not nice yet i dont seem to mind eating a poor little chicken that has been kept in cage and has most probably never seen the light of day and has been kept in horrid hell like conditions
Walking my three is nothing short of an ordeal twice a day. In doors they are the most obiedient loving critters man could want but outside they go into pack mode and turn into a bunch of hooligans who embarress the living daylights out of me.
Scully is incurably trunky and will stick her beak in any anglers bag up the river bank to check for food.
Mulder wants to fight anything with four legs and fur.
Puppy wants to dissapear down any hole she can find.
All three together gang up and mug passing swans and cattle.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
oscar;1208242 wrote: Walking my three is nothing short of an ordeal twice a day. In doors they are the most obiedient loving critters man could want but outside they go into pack mode and turn into a bunch of hooligans who embarress the living daylights out of me.
Scully is incurably trunky and will stick her beak in any anglers bag up the river bank to check for food.
Mulder wants to fight anything with four legs and fur.
Puppy wants to dissapear down any hole she can find.
All three together gang up and mug passing swans and cattle.
Yes :wah:
Most people do not realise how a 'pack' are when out. To make life easy i walk mine and let off lead when no other people or dogs are around, very early in the morning and very late at night but still have them muzzled just incase anybody else is mad enough to be out at those times. My boy tends to be like your boy and if he got going on another dog the girls would join in although they just want to play with other dogs when he's not around. Interestingly if i take them out individually my boy is fine with other dogs so it definately comes down to pack mentality and him protecting the girls.
Most people do not realise how a 'pack' are when out. To make life easy i walk mine and let off lead when no other people or dogs are around, very early in the morning and very late at night but still have them muzzled just incase anybody else is mad enough to be out at those times. My boy tends to be like your boy and if he got going on another dog the girls would join in although they just want to play with other dogs when he's not around. Interestingly if i take them out individually my boy is fine with other dogs so it definately comes down to pack mentality and him protecting the girls. How nice to know that others know of this 'pack mode' :wah: Mine sound exactly the same as yours with Mulder protecting his bitches. The same with me, that if out individually, they are no trouble but the three together are just hooligans in the worst degree. At home, one of them can be out in the garden and start barking, usually at a moth entering British air space, and even though the other two have no idea what they are barking at, they rush out to join in. I'm the same as you in that i tend to take mine to area's where i know there will be no other dogs or humans but it's impossible at times. If very public, i do muzzle Mulder just in case. I used to put it down to the breed as Mulder's breeder told me most terriers are like this but now i'm sure it's the pack mode. If they all decide while out to go victimising wildfowl, no amount of shouting at them brings them back. Mr O calls it 'selective hearing' as they can hear the rustle of a cornish pasty being opened a mile away. :wah:
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
What always amazes me is the 'sit' command. Works first time with a treat in your hand but without that treat they look at you as if they have no concept of the word at all.
What always amazes me is the 'sit' command. Works first time with a treat in your hand but without that treat they look at you as if they have no concept of the word at all. :wah: Yep me too :wah: I must show Mr O your posts as he's totally convinced that no other persons dogs behave like this while out :wah:
Have you ever done that thing when yours has been a hooligan and you say to a person 'I don't understand that, he's NEVER done that before'........ yeah right :yh_rotfl It's bizzarre as at home all three will answer one command. I only have to go into the garden and say 'In' and they walk indoors. Outside, i must look like a demented banshee screaming at them. :wah:
I'm convinced they get together just before the leads go on and say 'right, let's really show her up today, you bolt off one way, i'll chase the cattle and you distract her by annoying that man over there as she can't get all three of us'. :wah:
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
I have very large dogs and they do by and large get the blame for everything because they are large in build or that there are three of them. Most times its the little 'terrier' types that start it but they don't do the same damage as a big guy can do and so i always have to cop the blame even when genuinely its not my dogs that start it. There's a damned good reason they call them 'terriers' :wah:
All my dogs are muzzled when out and so the worst they can do is scratch another dog. Mine have been bitten/puncture wounds by small dogs and have no other way of retaliating other than to scratch and yet still just because of their size i've been screamed at - your dog scratched mine. Sometimes i would like to retaliate by saying HELLO my dog has puncture wounds inflicted by yours, but what's the point.
I must say terriers are fearless, 3 large dogs do not scare 1 small terrier.
Its a fear of mine that due to mine being muzzled what happens if we come across a large dog like them that has a go at mine, the fact they are muzzled means they have no way of defending themselves.
whilst walking the dogs at about 11.30 last night ,there was a gruop of teenage girls walking up the path i threw alfies hard ball miles away from them with one of those ball chucker thingys ,to my horror the ball hit a tree root and diverted 90 degrees from its original course and hit one of them who wondered what the hell it was and promptly screamed her head off ,then alf looking for his ball ran over to them ,black furry thing coming up in the darkness all the girls scream there head off ,all the lights come on in the houses near by who are wondering what weirdo has made a group of girls scream their heads off ,the girls just threw the ball back jimbo slinks off home before the police choppers and swat teams turn up
i really should not be allowed out on my own oh the shame o
buttercup;1208719 wrote: I have very large dogs and they do by and large get the blame for everything because they are large in build or that there are three of them. Most times its the little 'terrier' types that start it but they don't do the same damage as a big guy can do and so i always have to cop the blame even when genuinely its not my dogs that start it. There's a damned good reason they call them 'terriers' :wah:
All my dogs are muzzled when out and so the worst they can do is scratch another dog. Mine have been bitten/puncture wounds by small dogs and have no other way of retaliating other than to scratch and yet still just because of their size i've been screamed at - your dog scratched mine. Sometimes i would like to retaliate by saying HELLO my dog has puncture wounds inflicted by yours, but what's the point.
I must say terriers are fearless, 3 large dogs do not scare 1 small terrier.
Its a fear of mine that due to mine being muzzled what happens if we come across a large dog like them that has a go at mine, the fact they are muzzled means they have no way of defending themselves. I absolutely agree with you BC. I have had big dogs all my life with many being rescue. One was a rottwieler crossed with a german shepherd who ate Mr O's shed. Even though many had dodgy backgrounds, i never had any trouble with any of them. I was taking rescue dogs late in their life's and losing them all to quickly so a few years ago we decided to get young pups. We ummed and arred over breeds for some time and eventually went for the Parson Russell Terrier. Puppy Rosie was rescue though.
If i'm out walking and mine are behaving like a bunch of hoodies, and i see another dog approaching, it is not the big dog that sends that feeling of doom up my spine, but the scrappy yappy dappy dog who i know is going to be as troublesome as mine. Terriers are over protective, territorial, possessive and jealous. Even at home we have to have a strict pecking order to keep the peace. Mulder gets his food first, then Scully, then puppy, then the cats.
Big dogs have always had the blame and bad press very unfairly in my eyes and frankly, i will never have another Terrier. They act like school children. All of mine have been to puppy and advanced dog training yet all they learnt was how to disrupt. Although there was a possibility we were going to enter Mulder in agility classes a while back.
My nephew has the most humungous Japanes Akita. People see her in the street and literally cross the road. Yet, the truth is, she's so bone idle that my nephew has to physycally drag her out of the door for walks.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
I found your social structure quite interesting. What we have here is the first dog to arrive obviously thinks she's boss, this was confirmed to her when the male arrived, he does not care who's boss and so she was not intimidated, no doubt also him being a male helped. I fed them at the same time (this was fine having two hands) and i was determined not to show favouritism. Now the first dog is a rescue with many 'issues' so technically being the top dog is not a healthy place for her to be in as she's a natural worrier. Then the puppy arrives, no sooner was she here when the first bitch put her in her place with a few nips. I have to be honest and say the first dog trained the puppy (much harsher) than i ever would but that puppy is now almost grown and has never put a foot wrong in this house. Dogs will sort out any problems long before we ever will. I feed all three on rotation, the first bitch might get fed first one morning, second the next morning and third the morning after that. They never know who's getting and i have no problems there. The puppy is now almost a year and her confidence has grown to the extent that i feel she will challenge for leadership soon, this of course will result in a fight. Not looking forward to that day but am aware its coming. In the long run it will be better for the puppy to win and older bitch to take a lower rank but i don't expect non doggie people to understand that.
I have found mostly when male dogs fight its a whole lot of shoulder pushing and mouthing off, when the girls fight, they mean it !!
buttercup;1208992 wrote: I found your social structure quite interesting. What we have here is the first dog to arrive obviously thinks she's boss, this was confirmed to her when the male arrived, he does not care who's boss and so she was not intimidated, no doubt also him being a male helped. I fed them at the same time (this was fine having two hands) and i was determined not to show favouritism. Now the first dog is a rescue with many 'issues' so technically being the top dog is not a healthy place for her to be in as she's a natural worrier. Then the puppy arrives, no sooner was she here when the first bitch put her in her place with a few nips. I have to be honest and say the first dog trained the puppy (much harsher) than i ever would but that puppy is now almost grown and has never put a foot wrong in this house. Dogs will sort out any problems long before we ever will. I feed all three on rotation, the first bitch might get fed first one morning, second the next morning and third the morning after that. They never know who's getting and i have no problems there. The puppy is now almost a year and her confidence has grown to the extent that i feel she will challenge for leadership soon, this of course will result in a fight. Not looking forward to that day but am aware its coming. In the long run it will be better for the puppy to win and older bitch to take a lower rank but i don't expect non doggie people to understand that.
I have found mostly when male dogs fight its a whole lot of shoulder pushing and mouthing off, when the girls fight, they mean it !!
I think your system is excellent with the breed of dog that you have. Mine being territorial Terriers need that pecking order yet i see alot of similarity in your post and mine.
Scully is 14 yrs old now, Mulder 13 yrs old and Puppy is approx 10 months. Scully was always very dominent and yet seems to have taken a back seat now allowing puppy to all sorts that she would never have tolerated when younger.
There is a trait that i find fascinating and not sure if it applies only to Terriers. With all 3 of Scully's litters, Mulder would put the pups entire head in his mouth although very gently. It was as if he was showing them who was the daddy. Now, this is something the puppy tries to do to Oscar the Persian although Oscar is actually bigger than her.
Like you, we never had to train puppy in anything. She arrived completely un-toilet trained and used to being in a cage for long hours. When she arrived and found she had the run of the house she turned into a whirling dervish. Mulder taught her absolutely everything and very quickly. Occassionally she will over-step the mark and he gives her a dry slap to put her in her place.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. R.L. Binyon
Yeah this head in the mouth thing goes on a lot here, all three heads are permanently wet and well chewed, they also all hump each other which most people mistake as a sexual act when its really all about dominance :wah:
Something i do find amusing is when they put a paw up and push each other as if to say - come play.
I've never had a litter of pups from any of my dogs but can imagine apart from being a lot of work it must also be an amazing experience with lots of laughs. I'd be the type that would want to keep all the pups, did you cry when they went to their new homes?
buttercup;1209031 wrote: Yeah this head in the mouth thing goes on a lot here, all three heads are permanently wet and well chewed, they also all hump each other which most people mistake as a sexual act when its really all about dominance :wah:
Something i do find amusing is when they put a paw up and push each other as if to say - come play.
I've never had a litter of pups from any of my dogs but can imagine apart from being a lot of work it must also be an amazing experience with lots of laughs. I'd be the type that would want to keep all the pups, did you cry when they went to their new homes? That's good....... it's not just my bonkers lot that put their heads in each others mouths then :wah: As for humping...... i thought they gre out of it at a certain age. They have all been neutered but puppy humps Scullys head . We keep saying.... 'no..... other end' :wah: The paw thing, yes, and then the pronking and scumpering starts. This ends with Mulder and Pup going full belt up the hall. :wah:
Oh the puppies :-4 She had three litters and 6 in each. One lot came Christmas day. Not one of them touched the ground when they were born. They were all born into Mr O's hand and he cut the cords. We were extremely choosy over their homes and did an unexpected home visit on each new home. We did turn several folk down. ie the one's who's kids came into my home and set about tormenting the pups immediately. Up to approx four weeks, they remain in the basket but then all hell breaks loose. You have cycles of 20 minutes of complete bedlam and then as if by code, they all zonk out together. Yes, we became very attached to them and gave them all names such as Mr Bunny, Miss perfect. We have kept in touch with all of the owners and exchange photo's at christmas and the pups born on christmas day get birthday cards. One fine specimen called 'kipper' went on to win several dog shows and another called 'Trump' (god i nearly chocked on my tea when they told me what they were going to call him) has won his gold medal in obedience. Shame none of it passed off on his parents. :wah:
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