Let's Legalize Drugs In The US

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:09 pm

Why? Because there is no other solution. Trying to educate young people and people in general via anti drug ads and commercials isn't working and every administration since Nixon has restated the problem and yet done nothing that is or can be effective. The profits to the cartels are huge as everyone knows and corruption of police and politicians on both sides of the border is pervasive. 7,000 vehicles daily pass through the checkpoints at Laredo Texas, and it is impossible to check each vehicle and truck, not to mention Tijuana and other border access points. In addition, planes and boats account for much of the drugs coming into the US. If there were no demand for the product there would be no profit to be made, but there is a demand for the product and there always will be, simply because of it's mystique, allure and illegality. Would drug use increase if it were legal. Maybe, but I don't think so, at least the kidnappings, murders and carnage would be brought to a halt. Did liquor consumption increase with the end of Prohibition? Why is it that the moralists fail to see the practicality in drug legalization and are only interested in perpetuating their moral principals despite the pain and suffering of others?

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:01 pm

You make a valid point when it comes to the stuff with a natural origin like marijuana. We have failed at prohibition so maybe we should be controlling and taxing. Way too many lives have been lost or ruined without really accomplishing anything. It comes down to the choices people make and they are apparently going to use no matter what the cost is.:-5

Post by **Bryn Mawr** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:18 pm

Clint;1177395 wrote: You make a valid point when it comes to the stuff with a natural origin like marijuana. We have failed at prohibition so maybe we should be controlling and taxing. Way too many lives have been lost or ruined without really accomplishing anything. It comes down to the choices people make and they are apparently going to use no matter what the cost is.:-5

It is only through making the drugs illegal that you create the premium value that drives the trade - spending money on education and therapy to reduce the demand whilst removing the profit from the criminals will do far more than all of the current shenanigans have - witness the failure of prohibition in the thirties.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:25 pm

Clint;1177395 wrote: You make a valid point when it comes to the stuff with a natural origin like marijuana. We have failed at prohibition so maybe we should be controlling and taxing. Way too many lives have been lost or ruined without really accomplishing anything. It comes down to the choices people make and they are apparently going to use no matter what the cost is.:-5

Coke from a bean, and heroin from a poppy is pretty natural in origin Clint.

Meth on the other hand --------------

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:20 pm

Lon;1177416 wrote: Coke from a bean, and heroin from a poppy is pretty natural in origin Clint.

Meth on the other hand --------------

The penalty for manufacturing meth should be enough to keep the offender from everdoing anything that results in pleasure again.

When it comes to heroin and coke I really don't know what to think. They can be so harmful yet those who use the stuff choose to do so. I do know that anyone who plays a role in getting a minor started on either one should pay a heavy price and I don't care if we try to make nice people out of them in prison...just make them wish they had never done it.

jdaz · Post by **jdaz** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:49 am

I think government should stop trying to be everyones babysitter. They spend more money on trying to keep the stuff out. It should be legalized so it would no longer be as profitable for the dealers, and they could spend more money on education and getting the country back on track.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:13 am

jdaz;1177678 wrote: I think government should stop trying to be everyones babysitter. They spend more money on trying to keep the stuff out. It should be legalized so it would no longer be as profitable for the dealers, and they could spend more money on education and getting the country back on track.

Speaking from experience making pot more accessible is not conducive to a productive education.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:20 am

Nomad;1177734 wrote: Speaking from experience making pot more accessible is not conducive to a productive education.

Neither is booze, stupidity, lack of motivation, bad parenting, bad environment, poor diet, lack of sleep conducive to a productive education.

At least pot is a choice, and at least in this state, it's pretty accessible.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:21 am

Nomad;1177734 wrote: Speaking from experience making pot more accessible is not conducive to a productive education.
Tis true and what us Brits call 'A mashup'.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:25 am

Lon;1177745 wrote: Neither is booze, stupidity, lack of motivation, bad parenting, bad environment, poor diet, lack of sleep conducive to a productive education.

At least pot is a choice, and at least in this state, it's pretty accessible.

Easy cowboy. You just split off in 7 different directions.

Any moment now I expect a code red brain freeze.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:31 am

Lon;1177745 wrote: Neither is booze, stupidity, lack of motivation, bad parenting, bad environment, poor diet, lack of sleep conducive to a productive education.

At least pot is a choice, and at least in this state, it's pretty accessible. The British have really ballsed up on Cannibis. Once grade B and an arrestable offence, it was downgraded to class C so all the kids didn't care if they got caught. Now it's been re-classified as grade B. They are confused enough smoking the stuff without the government confusing them further.