Scary but interesting read. It is a long article. What do ya'll think?
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America waits with bated breath while Washington struggles to bring the U.S. economy back from the brink of disaster. But many of those same politicians caused the crisis, and if left to their own devices will do so again.
Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama's connections to his radical mentors -- Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others. David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks.org have also contributed a wealth of information and have noted Obama's radical connections since the beginning.
Yet, no one to my knowledge has yet connected all the dots between Barack Obama and the Radical Left. When seen together, the influences on Obama's life comprise a who's who of the radical leftist movement, and it becomes painfully apparent that not only is Obama a willing participant in that movement, he has spent most of his adult life deeply immersed in it.
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Sheryl;1130984 wrote: Scary but interesting read. It is a long article. What do ya'll think?
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America waits with bated breath while Washington struggles to bring the U.S. economy back from the brink of disaster. But many of those same politicians caused the crisis, and if left to their own devices will do so again.
Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama's connections to his radical mentors -- Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others. David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks.org have also contributed a wealth of information and have noted Obama's radical connections since the beginning.
Yet, no one to my knowledge has yet connected all the dots between Barack Obama and the Radical Left. When seen together, the influences on Obama's life comprise a who's who of the radical leftist movement, and it becomes painfully apparent that not only is Obama a willing participant in that movement, he has spent most of his adult life deeply immersed in it.
If you really want to see a manufactured crisis and politicians using fear to pursue their own agenda have a look at what led up to the invasion of iraq and how the events of 911 and fear were cynically used to lead america to where it is today. It's not the left you need to worry about in America it's the right.
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America waits with bated breath while Washington struggles to bring the U.S. economy back from the brink of disaster. But many of those same politicians caused the crisis, and if left to their own devices will do so again.
Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama's connections to his radical mentors -- Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others. David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks.org have also contributed a wealth of information and have noted Obama's radical connections since the beginning.
Yet, no one to my knowledge has yet connected all the dots between Barack Obama and the Radical Left. When seen together, the influences on Obama's life comprise a who's who of the radical leftist movement, and it becomes painfully apparent that not only is Obama a willing participant in that movement, he has spent most of his adult life deeply immersed in it.
If you really want to see a manufactured crisis and politicians using fear to pursue their own agenda have a look at what led up to the invasion of iraq and how the events of 911 and fear were cynically used to lead america to where it is today. It's not the left you need to worry about in America it's the right.
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Not had time yet to read the article (off to work) but why start with the credit crunch which occurred after eight years of Republican rule and then launch into an analysis of Obama's connections - he had no power until a couple of weeks ago.
Try an comparative analysis of Bush's connections and see if you find any links back to those who profited in the lead up to the crunch.
Try an comparative analysis of Bush's connections and see if you find any links back to those who profited in the lead up to the crunch.
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Sheryl;1130984 wrote: Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama's connections to his radical mentors -- Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others. David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks.org have also contributed a wealth of information and have noted Obama's radical connections since the beginning.You wouldn't, I suppose, describe this paragraph as an attempt to manufacture a crisis?
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gmc;1131362 wrote: If you really want to see a manufactured crisis and politicians using fear to pursue their own agenda have a look at what led up to the invasion of iraq and how the events of 911 and fear were cynically used to lead america to where it is today. It's not the left you need to worry about in America it's the right.
I know Bush is not a popular person as is the war in Iraq, but those events were not leading the U.S. toward a socialist state. The fact that Obama stated last night on public television that government was the only way to fix our economy showed me his socialist agenda.
Not had time yet to read the article (off to work) but why start with the credit crunch which occurred after eight years of Republican rule and then launch into an analysis of Obama's connections - he had no power until a couple of weeks ago.
Try an comparative analysis of Bush's connections and see if you find any links back to those who profited in the lead up to the crunch.
It was only 6 years of Republican rule, Democrats had control of the Senate and HOP the last two years. The credit crunch was not caused soley by a rep or democrat either. It was caused by shady deals struck on Wall Street by banks and such.
You wouldn't, I suppose, describe this paragraph as an attempt to manufacture a crisis?
I don't think getting information out there for foks to read as manufacturing a crisis.
Out of the whole article, that's the only thing you could pick on, spot? Or was it just a amuse bouche?
I know Bush is not a popular person as is the war in Iraq, but those events were not leading the U.S. toward a socialist state. The fact that Obama stated last night on public television that government was the only way to fix our economy showed me his socialist agenda.
Not had time yet to read the article (off to work) but why start with the credit crunch which occurred after eight years of Republican rule and then launch into an analysis of Obama's connections - he had no power until a couple of weeks ago.
Try an comparative analysis of Bush's connections and see if you find any links back to those who profited in the lead up to the crunch.
It was only 6 years of Republican rule, Democrats had control of the Senate and HOP the last two years. The credit crunch was not caused soley by a rep or democrat either. It was caused by shady deals struck on Wall Street by banks and such.
You wouldn't, I suppose, describe this paragraph as an attempt to manufacture a crisis?
I don't think getting information out there for foks to read as manufacturing a crisis.
Out of the whole article, that's the only thing you could pick on, spot? Or was it just a amuse bouche?
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Sheryl;1131507 wrote: Out of the whole article, that's the only thing you could pick on, spot? Or was it just a amuse bouche?What I'm picking up on is that you'd rather wreck any Democrat-led recovery than see them succeed.
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I don't like big government, I don't want more government!
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Sheryl;1131530 wrote: I don't like big government, I don't want more government!
Then vote for small government. Do you want to live in a representative democracy, that's the real question.
Then vote for small government. Do you want to live in a representative democracy, that's the real question.
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Socialism is not a pleasant word to most Americans. Many of us remember the cold war where the "Union of Soviet Socialist Russia" plainly said they would win by attacking us from within........
We can see this promise, seemingly, show its face in numerous areas of our world. It is a fear that is utilized to sway the public, of which, I am one.
Newsweek magazine has its current cover advertising an article on socialism. We Are All Socialists Now | Newsweek Business | Newsweek.com
They say the polls show that Americans don't trust government and still don't want big government, but they do want what government delivers, like health care and national defence and, now, protection from banking and housing failure.
It is an interesting Catch-22 we find ourselves in today. We need our government to stimulate the economy because neither the consumer or business is, but......................... where will this lead us?
We can see this promise, seemingly, show its face in numerous areas of our world. It is a fear that is utilized to sway the public, of which, I am one.
Newsweek magazine has its current cover advertising an article on socialism. We Are All Socialists Now | Newsweek Business | Newsweek.com
They say the polls show that Americans don't trust government and still don't want big government, but they do want what government delivers, like health care and national defence and, now, protection from banking and housing failure.
It is an interesting Catch-22 we find ourselves in today. We need our government to stimulate the economy because neither the consumer or business is, but......................... where will this lead us?
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spot;1131550 wrote: Then vote for small government. Do you want to live in a representative democracy, that's the real question.
The lines between the parties are no longer clear cut. Since Reagan was President, the US government has grown no matter which party was in the White House.
The lines between the parties are no longer clear cut. Since Reagan was President, the US government has grown no matter which party was in the White House.
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spot;1131550 wrote: Then vote for small government. Do you want to live in a representative democracy, that's the real question.
I voted for the guy who wouldn't of enlarged government, from the choices I had. Last night, Obama told America that the only way to fix the problem was government. Nope sorry I don't think so. There is a Democrat Senator that has offered an alternative plan, but you don't hear the media talking about it. But this freshman senator shaved off 5/6ths of the bill that Pelosi and Reid had written.
So I'm not against anyone who's labeled democrat, i'm against those who actually are juts in office to suit their personal projects and line their pockets.
I voted for the guy who wouldn't of enlarged government, from the choices I had. Last night, Obama told America that the only way to fix the problem was government. Nope sorry I don't think so. There is a Democrat Senator that has offered an alternative plan, but you don't hear the media talking about it. But this freshman senator shaved off 5/6ths of the bill that Pelosi and Reid had written.
So I'm not against anyone who's labeled democrat, i'm against those who actually are juts in office to suit their personal projects and line their pockets.
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Kindle;1131559 wrote: Socialism is not a pleasant word to most Americans. Many of us remember the cold war where the "Union of Soviet Socialist Russia" plainly said they would win by attacking us from within........
We can see this promise, seemingly, show its face in numerous areas of our world. It is a fear that is utilized to sway the public, of which, I am one.
Newsweek magazine has its current cover advertising an article on socialism. We Are All Socialists Now | Newsweek Business | Newsweek.com
They say the polls show that Americans don't trust government and still don't want big government, but they do want what government delivers, like health care and national defence and, now, protection from banking and housing failure.
It is an interesting Catch-22 we find ourselves in today. We need our government to stimulate the economy because neither the consumer or business is, but......................... where will this lead us?
I'm all for defense. National healthcare and protection from housing failure no. I do not like what I've been reading about this so called National Healthcare. This lady's oped was intriguing. Housing failure I'm still undecided. In some cases I think folks over extended themselves. I also believe banks were at fault for making loans to folks who had no business trying to buy a house.
We can see this promise, seemingly, show its face in numerous areas of our world. It is a fear that is utilized to sway the public, of which, I am one.
Newsweek magazine has its current cover advertising an article on socialism. We Are All Socialists Now | Newsweek Business | Newsweek.com
They say the polls show that Americans don't trust government and still don't want big government, but they do want what government delivers, like health care and national defence and, now, protection from banking and housing failure.
It is an interesting Catch-22 we find ourselves in today. We need our government to stimulate the economy because neither the consumer or business is, but......................... where will this lead us?
I'm all for defense. National healthcare and protection from housing failure no. I do not like what I've been reading about this so called National Healthcare. This lady's oped was intriguing. Housing failure I'm still undecided. In some cases I think folks over extended themselves. I also believe banks were at fault for making loans to folks who had no business trying to buy a house.
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Sheryl;1131575 wrote: I'm all for defense. National healthcare and protection from housing failure no. I do not like what I've been reading about this so called National Healthcare. This lady's oped was intriguing. Housing failure I'm still undecided. In some cases I think folks over extended themselves. I also believe banks were at fault for making loans to folks who had no business trying to buy a house.
This is the crux of the problem. Now the problem is: how do we fix it?
It's hard to accept that the irresponsible and greedy should be bailed out, but their mess affects us all now. Oversight was lacking in the banking industry, but as it is the economy which drives the train, the train now needs to be refueled...............
This is the crux of the problem. Now the problem is: how do we fix it?
It's hard to accept that the irresponsible and greedy should be bailed out, but their mess affects us all now. Oversight was lacking in the banking industry, but as it is the economy which drives the train, the train now needs to be refueled...............
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posted by sheryl
I know Bush is not a popular person as is the war in Iraq, but those events were not leading the U.S. toward a socialist state. The fact that Obama stated last night on public television that government was the only way to fix our economy showed me his socialist agenda.
What Bush was leading you to was a corporatist state.
[QUOTE]corporatism
• noun the control of a state or organization by large interest groups.
— DERIVATIVES corporatist adjective & noun.
Also known as fascism except they did actually did it and now you are suffering the consequences. It seems to me- as an outsider anyway-that Americans are so brainwashed in to fearing the left in politics they don't recognise the threat from the right is just as real.
I know Bush is not a popular person as is the war in Iraq, but those events were not leading the U.S. toward a socialist state. The fact that Obama stated last night on public television that government was the only way to fix our economy showed me his socialist agenda.
What Bush was leading you to was a corporatist state.
[QUOTE]corporatism
• noun the control of a state or organization by large interest groups.
— DERIVATIVES corporatist adjective & noun.
Also known as fascism except they did actually did it and now you are suffering the consequences. It seems to me- as an outsider anyway-that Americans are so brainwashed in to fearing the left in politics they don't recognise the threat from the right is just as real.
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Sheryl;1131530 wrote: I don't like big government, I don't want more government!
Would you describe the Bush Administration as having reduced the size of Government?
Would you describe the Bush Administration as having reduced the size of Government?
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i would think your clubs would now be sticks from all the bush bashing.
Obama has been on tv 3 times now telling folks how we are at the worst point in American history, which is a lie. Recessions in 70's and 81 were worse. His plan, wait mean Palosi and Reid's plan is filled with to much non stimulus matter. It's a democrat shmorgazborg.
Obama has been on tv 3 times now telling folks how we are at the worst point in American history, which is a lie. Recessions in 70's and 81 were worse. His plan, wait mean Palosi and Reid's plan is filled with to much non stimulus matter. It's a democrat shmorgazborg.
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Sheryl;1131787 wrote: i would think your clubs would now be sticks from all the bush bashing.
Obama has been on tv 3 times now telling folks how we are at the worst point in American history, which is a lie. Recessions in 70's and 81 were worse.If you're right about the scale of the recession then the man's a fraudster.
If he's right you really ought to pull in time with the other oarsmen.
You'll find out eventually which it was.
Obama has been on tv 3 times now telling folks how we are at the worst point in American history, which is a lie. Recessions in 70's and 81 were worse.If you're right about the scale of the recession then the man's a fraudster.
If he's right you really ought to pull in time with the other oarsmen.
You'll find out eventually which it was.
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spot;1131875 wrote: If you're right about the scale of the recession then the man's a fraudster.
If he's right you really ought to pull in time with the other oarsmen.
You'll find out eventually which it was.
Our treasury advisors and the IMF appear to agree :-
So, just how bad will the recession be? - Telegraph
If he's right you really ought to pull in time with the other oarsmen.
You'll find out eventually which it was.
Our treasury advisors and the IMF appear to agree :-
So, just how bad will the recession be? - Telegraph
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Sheryl will need a measure of badness. I'd recommend the official jobless figures.
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The jobless figures are not as low nor as drastic as they were in the mid 70's or those of 81.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
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Sheryl;1132026 wrote: The jobless figures are not as low nor as drastic as they were in the mid 70's or those of 81.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
A fall of 600,000 last month alone and 2.5 million in five months? The comparison from our group chief accountant was that you've lost more jobs than the entire workforce of Scotland.
It is not the trailing indicators like the jobless count that are the worry though, it's the leading indicators like the PMI and, worldwide, they are consistently showing that we're nowhere near the bottom yet - every forecast I've seen compares this to 1929 and predicts far worse than the 70's, 80's or 90's.
I'll look for a paper that's not marked company internal and post the figures tonight.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
A fall of 600,000 last month alone and 2.5 million in five months? The comparison from our group chief accountant was that you've lost more jobs than the entire workforce of Scotland.
It is not the trailing indicators like the jobless count that are the worry though, it's the leading indicators like the PMI and, worldwide, they are consistently showing that we're nowhere near the bottom yet - every forecast I've seen compares this to 1929 and predicts far worse than the 70's, 80's or 90's.
I'll look for a paper that's not marked company internal and post the figures tonight.
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Sheryl;1132026 wrote: The jobless figures are not as low nor as drastic as they were in the mid 70's or those of 81.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
Prior to 1980 the jobless rate was calculated differently. During the 20's it was calculated by counting the unemployed men between the ages of 16-65. Now the jobless rate is calculated by counting those who are taking unemployment benefits. You cant compare the two for this reason. The unemployment rate....the true unemployment rate is hidden from us. How many people have run out of unemployment and no longer counted? Look around you....Americans are becoming homeless at an alarming rate.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
Prior to 1980 the jobless rate was calculated differently. During the 20's it was calculated by counting the unemployed men between the ages of 16-65. Now the jobless rate is calculated by counting those who are taking unemployment benefits. You cant compare the two for this reason. The unemployment rate....the true unemployment rate is hidden from us. How many people have run out of unemployment and no longer counted? Look around you....Americans are becoming homeless at an alarming rate.
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Bryn Mawr;1132053 wrote: A fall of 600,000 last month alone and 2.5 million in five months? The comparison from our group chief accountant was that you've lost more jobs than the entire workforce of Scotland.
It is not the trailing indicators like the jobless count that are the worry though, it's the leading indicators like the PMI and, worldwide, they are consistently showing that we're nowhere near the bottom yet - every forecast I've seen compares this to 1929 and predicts far worse than the 70's, 80's or 90's.
I'll look for a paper that's not marked company internal and post the figures tonight.
You are right. I was of working age during all the three decades that you have cited and this is way worse....and continuing to fall at a fast rate. Anything that you care to post on this would be much appreciated.
It is not the trailing indicators like the jobless count that are the worry though, it's the leading indicators like the PMI and, worldwide, they are consistently showing that we're nowhere near the bottom yet - every forecast I've seen compares this to 1929 and predicts far worse than the 70's, 80's or 90's.
I'll look for a paper that's not marked company internal and post the figures tonight.
You are right. I was of working age during all the three decades that you have cited and this is way worse....and continuing to fall at a fast rate. Anything that you care to post on this would be much appreciated.
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Sheryl;1132026 wrote: The jobless figures are not as low nor as drastic as they were in the mid 70's or those of 81.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
This is only just starting give it time.
But if you can find evidence that we are in a free fall, and that folks are losing jobs at a faster rate than that occurred anywhere from 1920's to current, show me!
This is only just starting give it time.
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wildhorses;1132062 wrote: Prior to 1980 the jobless rate was calculated differently. During the 20's it was calculated by counting the unemployed men between the ages of 16-65. Now the jobless rate is calculated by counting those who are taking unemployment benefits. You cant compare the two for this reason. The unemployment rate....the true unemployment rate is hidden from us. How many people have run out of unemployment and no longer counted? Look around you....Americans are becoming homeless at an alarming rate.
There's an alternative measure for you then - the number of homeless.
The US does publish a running total of the homeless, doesn't it?
I wasn't talking about the number drawing "unemployment benefit", whatever that is in the US, I was talking about the number of people without an income capable of keeping their family housed and fed. The best label I can think of for them is unemployed. It means that people living off their capital or from investment interest aren't counted, they're drawing down income from their own store. I'm more than happy to fall in with anyone else's notion of a measuring scale though.
There's an alternative measure for you then - the number of homeless.
The US does publish a running total of the homeless, doesn't it?
I wasn't talking about the number drawing "unemployment benefit", whatever that is in the US, I was talking about the number of people without an income capable of keeping their family housed and fed. The best label I can think of for them is unemployed. It means that people living off their capital or from investment interest aren't counted, they're drawing down income from their own store. I'm more than happy to fall in with anyone else's notion of a measuring scale though.
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I agree it's going to get worse, especially since the solutions seems to be to just throw money at it. I don't think that's going to work, just make it worse. I keep hearing free of up loaning at banks ect. But who has the money to take loan out and pay it back. I just think matters have been made worse by doomsday talk. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and we are entering the world depression that is going to cause the one world government to come about. :-3
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wildhorses;1132062 wrote: Prior to 1980 the jobless rate was calculated differently. During the 20's it was calculated by counting the unemployed men between the ages of 16-65. Now the jobless rate is calculated by counting those who are taking unemployment benefits. You cant compare the two for this reason. The unemployment rate....the true unemployment rate is hidden from us. How many people have run out of unemployment and no longer counted? Look around you....Americans are becoming homeless at an alarming rate.
The measure your government appears to use is the number in work rather than the number unemployed.
It also accepts that the number in work needs to increase by 180,000 / month to keep pace with the growing size or the available workforce so a decrease of 600,000 / month over each of the last three months is an equivalent to an increase in unemployed of 780,000 / month - a figure, as you suggest, never published.
The measure your government appears to use is the number in work rather than the number unemployed.
It also accepts that the number in work needs to increase by 180,000 / month to keep pace with the growing size or the available workforce so a decrease of 600,000 / month over each of the last three months is an equivalent to an increase in unemployed of 780,000 / month - a figure, as you suggest, never published.
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wildhorses;1132063 wrote: You are right. I was of working age during all the three decades that you have cited and this is way worse....and continuing to fall at a fast rate. Anything that you care to post on this would be much appreciated.
I've been through the documents available to me from both the group chief accountant's office and the equivalent in our US arm and, for some inexplicable reason, none of them are for open publication :wah:
Whilst I cannot quote any of them directly I will paraphrase where appropriate.
I've been through the documents available to me from both the group chief accountant's office and the equivalent in our US arm and, for some inexplicable reason, none of them are for open publication :wah:
Whilst I cannot quote any of them directly I will paraphrase where appropriate.
The Strategy of Manufactured Crisis!
Sheryl;1132114 wrote: I agree it's going to get worse, especially since the solutions seems to be to just throw money at it. I don't think that's going to work, just make it worse. I keep hearing free of up loaning at banks ect. But who has the money to take loan out and pay it back. I just think matters have been made worse by doomsday talk. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and we are entering the world depression that is going to cause the one world government to come about. :-3
The problem is that 70% of the US economy over the past years has been made up of consumer spending fuelled by the asset bubble that's just burst.
Now, because the consumers are retrenching they aren't spending and the companies that are reliant on that spend are having to pull in their horns which means that their suppliers are suffering.
The usual way a country gets out of this is to drop its exchange rate and export their way out. Trouble is that this time everyone is in the same boat and that's not happening so the government is having to try to replace the consumer and spend its way out of trouble.
I'm not an economist so I cannot say that this will work but governments around the world are suggesting its the only way to go so ........
The problem is that 70% of the US economy over the past years has been made up of consumer spending fuelled by the asset bubble that's just burst.
Now, because the consumers are retrenching they aren't spending and the companies that are reliant on that spend are having to pull in their horns which means that their suppliers are suffering.
The usual way a country gets out of this is to drop its exchange rate and export their way out. Trouble is that this time everyone is in the same boat and that's not happening so the government is having to try to replace the consumer and spend its way out of trouble.
I'm not an economist so I cannot say that this will work but governments around the world are suggesting its the only way to go so ........
The Strategy of Manufactured Crisis!
Sheryl;1132114 wrote: I agree it's going to get worse, especially since the solutions seems to be to just throw money at it. I don't think that's going to work, just make it worse. I keep hearing free of up loaning at banks ect. But who has the money to take loan out and pay it back. I just think matters have been made worse by doomsday talk. But who knows maybe I'm wrong and we are entering the world depression that is going to cause the one world government to come about. :-3
How on earth do you come to the conclusion that a global recession will bring on one world government? World war maybe but world government??
How on earth do you come to the conclusion that a global recession will bring on one world government? World war maybe but world government??