What Goes Around Comes Around

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:34 am

They say What Goes Around Comes Around......what are your thoughts about this.......rubbish......true and if true what has shown you why you feel this way.

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:12 am

I'm a huge believer in what goes around comes around! i have seen many instances of it, but then i was raised with the do unto others as you'd have done unto you ringing in my ears as it was one of my mom's favorite Bible quotes!

as well as if you can't say something good about someone don't say anything at all!

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:13 am

Carolly;1130753 wrote: They say What Goes Around Comes Around......what are your thoughts about this.......rubbish......true and if true what has shown you why you feel this way.

rubbish indeed!

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:59 am

I see it all the time so I definitely believe it's true.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:08 am

Sure "History repeats itself", paybacks a "Bitch", "What goes up must come down". Happens daily for all of us.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:06 am

CARLA;1130854 wrote: Sure "History repeats itself", paybacks a "Bitch", "What goes up must come down". Happens daily for all of us.

Carla how true that is.

When I was born I was fostered out as some know already.It was because my mothers sister wouldn't allow me in the house as being born out of wedlock isn't like it is now.After 5 years I was taken from my very happy foster parents and taken to live with my mother and her mother as the sister had moved out.My mothers brother treated me like I was the something the cat had dragged in.He was a business man who had many people working under him.....him and his wife didnt talk to people unless they were of some importance.....to call them snobs would be an understatement.I was so scared of him and used to run to my room if I knew he was coming round.I was a very frightened little girl that had felt love for the first 5 years and now nothing but rejection and unhappiness.I was never invited to any family party or anything.....I was indeed the family B......and at that early age had no idea even what the word meant.He had 3 sons......and nobody was as good as those boys.

So what is the point of me telling you all this....quite simple really.

My uncles boys all ended up shaming the family in later years.My Uncle ended up a Drunk.....Divorced.....Homeless and his Granddaughter ended up having an affair with a married man and pregnant.So yes History did repeat itself except the baby turned into a well balanced boy who was loved from the minute he was born......and I turned into an unsecure teenager who swore would show the lot of them that I was just as good as anybody else.

Do I believe what goes around comes around................damn right I do.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:11 am

Idgie;1130877 wrote: I believe that too.

I've seen enough of it on some of these boards.

hoxtonchris · Post by **hoxtonchris** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:21 am

Carolly;1130883 wrote: Carla how true that is.

When I was born I was fostered out as some know already.It was because my mothers sister wouldn't allow me in the house as being born out of wedlock isn't like it is now.After 5 years I was taken from my very happy foster parents and taken to live with my mother and her mother as the sister had moved out.My mothers brother treated me like I was the something the cat had dragged in.He was a business man who had many people working under him.....him and his wife didnt talk to people unless they were of some importance.....to call them snobs would be an understatement.I was so scared of him and used to run to my room if I knew he was coming round.I was a very frightened little girl that had felt love for the first 5 years and now nothing but rejection and unhappiness.I was never invited to any family party or anything.....I was indeed the family B......and at that early age had no idea even what the word meant.He had 3 sons......and nobody was as good as those boys.

So what is the point of me telling you all this....quite simple really.

My uncles boys all ended up shaming the family in later years.My Uncle ended up a Drunk.....Divorced.....Homeless and his Granddaughter ended up having an affair with a married man and pregnant.So yes History did repeat itself except the baby turned into a well balanced boy who was loved from the minute he was born......and I turned into an unsecure teenager who swore would show the lot of them that I was just as good as anybody else.

Do I believe what goes around comes around................damn right I do.it was their loss and wish i could make up to you those lost years i really do.

qsducks · Post by **qsducks** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:28 am

Carolly;1130883 wrote: Carla how true that is.

When I was born I was fostered out as some know already.It was because my mothers sister wouldn't allow me in the house as being born out of wedlock isn't like it is now.After 5 years I was taken from my very happy foster parents and taken to live with my mother and her mother as the sister had moved out.My mothers brother treated me like I was the something the cat had dragged in.He was a business man who had many people working under him.....him and his wife didnt talk to people unless they were of some importance.....to call them snobs would be an understatement.I was so scared of him and used to run to my room if I knew he was coming round.I was a very frightened little girl that had felt love for the first 5 years and now nothing but rejection and unhappiness.I was never invited to any family party or anything.....I was indeed the family B......and at that early age had no idea even what the word meant.He had 3 sons......and nobody was as good as those boys.

So what is the point of me telling you all this....quite simple really.

My uncles boys all ended up shaming the family in later years.My Uncle ended up a Drunk.....Divorced.....Homeless and his Granddaughter ended up having an affair with a married man and pregnant.So yes History did repeat itself except the baby turned into a well balanced boy who was loved from the minute he was born......and I turned into an unsecure teenager who swore would show the lot of them that I was just as good as anybody else.

Do I believe what goes around comes around................damn right I do.

And you sure did show them. Good for you Carolly and you did yourself proud. And that's why everyone loves you because you are you are.:-4 And life didn't turn you down...you have enjoyed every single moment of it and are still going strong!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:10 am

I don't believe in what goes around comes around. You see good people dying of cancer and murderers and rapists walking the streets. I think if anything nasty does happen to some-one who has treated you badly then it is just co-incidence. The % of probability is pretty high for any-one.

I also think we can some-times become too stuck in the past and focus on some-thing that has gone to the detrement of our health. If some-one treats you badly then some-times through the right channels you can get justice as i had to do with my lying arresting officer and i'm still fighting that now. Over all, if i can't change a situation, i wouldn't give them the pleasure of wasting my energy on them. Far better to move on.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:27 am

I believe in it in a way

cos i think people who do bad, mean harm, are spiteful etc, can never be happy, even if they dont realise it:)

Sometimes though the things we go through make us the person we are, and even though Carol you didnt have a lot of love growing up, you turned in to a loving caring person,,, and maybe cos of certain things thats why you were drawn to dogs and other animals and became such an animal lover,, and those animals are very lucky;) and also your vow to "show em" made you a very determined person( thats what i usually mean when i call you stubborn;):yh_rotfl). You know.. we have had many chats when i have said you shouldnt be so sensitive, worried etc.. then i have to stop and think wait a minute,, thats me and carol cant be like me cos she is Carol,,, everyone cant be the same, we are who we are and deal with things. life, problems,, in our different ways. Anyway... you did good girl;):-4:-4

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:36 am

Are you talking about this?

Instant Kharma s'gonna get you,

Gonna look you right in the face

Better recognize your brothers

Join the human race

Who on earth do you think you are?

Laughing in the face of love?

What on earth you tryna do?

Its up to you

Yeah you!

John Lennon, 1970

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:36 am

kazalala;1130987 wrote: I believe in it in a way

cos i think people who do bad, mean harm, are spiteful etc, can never be happy, even if they dont realise it:)

Sometimes though the things we go through make us the person we are, and even though Carol you didnt have a lot of love growing up, you turned in to a loving caring person,,, and maybe cos of certain things thats why you were drawn to dogs and other animals and became such an animal lover,, and those animals are very lucky;) and also your vow to "show em" made you a very determined person( thats what i usually mean when i call you stubborn;):yh_rotfl). You know.. we have had many chats when i have said you shouldnt be so sensitive, worried etc.. then i have to stop and think wait a minute,, thats me and carol cant be like me cos she is Carol,,, everyone cant be the same, we are who we are and deal with things. life, problems,, in our different ways. Anyway... you did good girl;):-4:-4I agree with you and i think it's down to the individual and our 'make-up' as to how we deal with bad things that have happened to us. I have in the past been accused of being 'hard' because i will not let any-one get to me in a way that they dominate my thoughts. Life is far too short to be constantly negative and your going to hate me for saying this but often, i've met people who enjoy playing the victem. I look at people like my mother in law who had to give birth on the underground because she was bombed out in the East End of London, her father shot in the head on the Somme at 29 years old and had a rotton life, yet she never got down and always counted her blessings. There are things we can not change how ever much they hurt us. To let them continue to hurt us, is to let 'them' win.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:44 am

oscar;1130995 wrote: I agree with you and i think it's down to the individual and our 'make-up' as to how we deal with bad things that have happened to us. I have in the past been accused of being 'hard' because i will not let any-one get to me in a way that they dominate my thoughts. Life is far too short to be constantly negative and your going to hate me for saying this but often, i've met people who enjoy playing the victem. I look at people like my mother in law who had to give birth on the underground because she was bombed out in the East End of London, her father shot in the head on the Somme at 29 years old and had a rotton life, yet she never got down and always counted her blessings. There are things we can not change how ever much they hurt us. To let them continue to hurt us, is to let 'them' win.

yes and im a bit like that too

and i know what you mean about people who play the victim,, i have known a couple. But what i was saying is personally i have come to be a bit more understanding of those who are maybe more sensitive than i am ,, or have a different way of dealing with stuff

Instead of thinking oh dear god why cant they just be like this or that,, or why does that matter so much to them,, and thinking i could just say,, be like me ,, do it this way,, dont be uset about that its not important. My way isnt the right way or the wrong way,, its just my way and i should respect other peoples differences and accept them for who they are

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:18 pm

kazalala;1131010 wrote: yes and im a bit like that too

and i know what you mean about people who play the victim,, i have known a couple. But what i was saying is personally i have come to be a bit more understanding of those who are maybe more sensitive than i am ,, or have a different way of dealing with stuff

Instead of thinking oh dear god why cant they just be like this or that,, or why does that matter so much to them,, and thinking i could just say,, be like me ,, do it this way,, dont be uset about that its not important. My way isnt the right way or the wrong way,, its just my way and i should respect other peoples differences and accept them for who they are

We all have shyte things in life that happen to us and god knows i could bend every-one's ear about my ex husband. I also admit that i probably have hang up's about my families war history but i know that i can't change these things only even them out with good things. The hardest thing i think i've ever had to bear was losing my father but i remember when my brothers baby was born, i thought, 'well that evens that one out'. It depends on your outlook on life. We can either hang on to the past or let go and look for new good things that come our way.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:22 pm

Exactly,, but theres always certain things from the past we hang on to even if we dont realise it

its waht makes us who we are, and even affects decisions we make.

Chezzie · Post by **Chezzie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:23 pm

I find its best to believe whatever gets you through the day,moment, crisis at that time Carol .Doesnt matter if other rubbish your beliefs, if it works for you, Great.

I happen to believe in Karma and what goes around comes around...Best motto I live by is don't do onto others what you wouldn't like done to yourself.

Me and you babes, like two peas in a pod at times:-4:-4

This is for you:-4

Hope

by Brian Quinn

When all about you is black with gloom,

And all you feel is pending doom.

When your bones are racked with grim despair -

When every breath is a gasp for air.

Keep on going, though you need to grope,

For around the bend is a ray of hope.

A ray of hope is perhaps all that's left,

As your will to live has been bereft.

You've lost it all, it's just no use!

You can end it all, you need no excuse.

But throw away that piece of rope,

And give yourself a chance of hope.

Just give yourself another day,

Brushing aside what your thoughts may say.

This is your life and you can make a new start,

By ignoring the brain - just follow the heart.

Taking baby steps in order to cope,

And minute by minute you'll build on your hope.

Build on your hope,. one day at a time,

Though the road be steep and hard to climb.

The hurts of the past - they should be dead.

The fears of the future are all in your head.

Just live in the present and refuse to mope

Your life will sparkle for you're living in hope.

along-for-the-ride · Post by **along-for-the-ride** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:41 pm

Carolly;1130753 wrote: They say What Goes Around Comes Around......what are your thoughts about this.......rubbish......true and if true what has shown you why you feel this way.

I guess as the Bible says........"You reap what you sow."

We usually want to see evil get it's "come-uppance", but that doesn't always happen. Life is like that. Good doesn't always get rewarded, and evil doesn't always get punished.

Just my thoughts.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:03 pm

along-for-the-ride;1131147 wrote: I guess as the Bible says........"You reap what you sow."

We usually want to see evil get it's "come-uppance", but that doesn't always happen. Life is like that. Good doesn't always get rewarded, and evil doesn't always get punished.

Just my thoughts.

That's the way i see it too. I think you can screw your future up waiting for those who wronged you to get their come-uppence.

My life has not been a bowl of cherries. I could hang on to why my ex husband was so cruel, why my sister died of breast cancer, why my brothers baby girl died, why my mother was paralysed by a stroke and why my husband has now got cancer again but i know it will not get me any-where. Hanging on to it just eats you up.

There are folk who are more sensitive than others and can't deal with the past but i just prefer to look at what i do have in life and be gratefull for those things.

When my father died, i thought it was the end of the world and one day i looked at my brothers baby boy and saw my dad's smile.

The poem my dad left us:

If I should die and leave you here awhile,

Be not like others, sore and undone,

Who keep long vigils by the silent dust, and weep.

For my sake - turn again to life and smile

Nerving thy heart and trembling hand to do

Something to comfort other hearts than thine.

Complete those dear unfinished tasks of mine

And I, perchance, may therein comfort you

AussiePam · Post by **AussiePam** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:51 pm

(((((((( Carolly )))))))))

Sending hugs to you!!!! You sure turned out a fine person in spite of all the trials and tribulations.

I wonder sometimes whether being unpleasant is somehow its own punishment. Maybe cheats and unkind people do sometimes seem to prosper in some ways, but do they win out in the things that really count when you get down to the bottom line??? Maybe they end up in a palace or on a soapbox, cold and alone when the lights go out. You on the other hand, Carolly, bring warmth and light to all around you, and we line up to be your friends.

:sneaky:

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:59 pm

Carolly;1130883 wrote: Carla how true that is.

When I was born I was fostered out as some know already.It was because my mothers sister wouldn't allow me in the house as being born out of wedlock isn't like it is now.After 5 years I was taken from my very happy foster parents and taken to live with my mother and her mother as the sister had moved out.My mothers brother treated me like I was the something the cat had dragged in.He was a business man who had many people working under him.....him and his wife didnt talk to people unless they were of some importance.....to call them snobs would be an understatement.I was so scared of him and used to run to my room if I knew he was coming round.I was a very frightened little girl that had felt love for the first 5 years and now nothing but rejection and unhappiness.I was never invited to any family party or anything.....I was indeed the family B......and at that early age had no idea even what the word meant.He had 3 sons......and nobody was as good as those boys.

So what is the point of me telling you all this....quite simple really.

My uncles boys all ended up shaming the family in later years.My Uncle ended up a Drunk.....Divorced.....Homeless and his Granddaughter ended up having an affair with a married man and pregnant.So yes History did repeat itself except the baby turned into a well balanced boy who was loved from the minute he was born......and I turned into an unsecure teenager who swore would show the lot of them that I was just as good as anybody else.

Do I believe what goes around comes around................damn right I do.

I am devastated at what you had to endure as a young child!

You have grown so much, you learnt everything the hard way and no child should have to endure that.

You my friend have grown up to be the most charming, understanding, caring and loving person a friend can know!:-4

bravo Carol!:-6

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:27 pm

AussiePam;1131253 wrote: (((((((( Carolly )))))))))

Sending hugs to you!!!! You sure turned out a fine person in spite of all the trials and tribulations.

I wonder sometimes whether being unpleasant is somehow its own punishment. Maybe cheats and unkind people do sometimes seem to prosper in some ways, but do they win out in the things that really count when you get down to the bottom line??? Maybe they end up in a palace or on a soapbox, cold and alone when the lights go out. You on the other hand, Carolly, bring warmth and light to all around you, and we line up to be your friends.

:sneaky:I wasnt going to come back on here Pam but saw you had posted and I so enjoy reading your posts as your intelligance always makes so much sense and your wit has me in fits of laughter.

I so appreciate your words and feel abit ashamed of myself for letting the past get to me so much but Pam theres so more that I cant put on here and guess to some I may look a right twit being upset about things that happened so many years ago.The truth is Pam when I type and then see this little girl in my mind being dragged away from the only happiness she would ever know as a child and being made to live a loveless childhood and being told by a mother who also drank that she was no good like her Father.....one that she never ever even found out his name.....and things that I cant even bring myself to type.....well tbh honest I forget who that child was and my tears are for her.....forgetting im reading about myself.I know some who dont like me and I also know who they are but I also know we cant please everybody and for what ever reason we send out the wrong vibes to even through this screen this can happen.Like all of us I have made many mistakes and some whoppers.I have met online some people that I love with all my heart even though we have never met and I know most I never will.My Kaz....Kay....Ali I have been Friends with for years and words cant say how much they mean to me.Chez.........well how special is she.....Kathy....dear Kathy...All the Guys on the FOC Thread are such dear Friends as you are Pam.I know those bad years are behind me and at last I feel I have the love that I feel I never had.Thanks Pam for being my Friend:-4

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:30 pm

odie;1131255 wrote: i am devastated at what you had to endure as a young child!

You have grown so much, you learnt everything the hard way and no child should have to endure that.

You my friend have grown up to be the most charming, understanding, caring and loving person a friend can know!:-4

bravo carol!:-6:-4:-4:-4

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:03 pm

I believe what goes around comes around and Carol you can walk with your head held high you have turned out a loving caring and compassionate person even though your childhood was a sad one, you have had to endure a lot in your life, but you have had the strength to be strong and bring much happiness to all those around you:-4:-4:-4 :-4including your ugly dolls:yh_rotfl luvs you:-4

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:26 pm

not in my case what goes around comes around has not worked.

evil people who caused us such emotional distress are alive and fine!:-5:-5

mrsK · Post by **mrsK** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:47 pm

I believe if you do wrong by someone it usually comes back to bite you on the bum;)

kayleneaussie · Post by **kayleneaussie** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:12 pm

Odie;1131314 wrote: not in my case what goes around comes around has not worked.

evil people who caused us such emotional distress are alive and fine!:-5:-5

:yh_hugs:yh_hugs:yh_hugs

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:42 am

I didnt put this Thread up even to talk about what I have and reading back I guess those words that Carla said about History repeating itself just sparked something off.Thanks again guys and as the song goes........Your Really The Best;):-4:-4:-4

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:31 am

JAB;1131313 wrote: Eventually, I think everyone get's what they deserve.

(((hugs))) to ya Carol. :-4

maybe, and like i said earlier maybe in a way that dont show to others as in the fact they cant be happy,, but ye know,,, sometimes people may get what they deserve, but some dont deserve what they get

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:39 am

kazalala;1131434 wrote: maybe, and like i said earlier maybe in a way that dont show to others as in the fact they cant be happy,, but ye know,,, sometimes people may get what they deserve, but some dont deserve what they get

Very well said.

When i was about 13 yrs old, there was a lad in my school who kicked a bird to death in the playground. I remember some-one saying to him that he'll get his come-uppence or words to that effect.

When he was 17 yrs old he had an accident on his moped near my home and lost his legs. I remembered the playground incident but was i happy he had lost his legs and wouldn't be able to kick birds any more? Of course not.

I think any one my age has had a teacher who at some-time said something cruel and you think 'right, I'll show them' but i could not spend my life in a way just to prove something to some-one. If some-one has hurt you, why waste your energy on them?

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:49 am

it depends on how you were hurt really

some people have no choice ,, out of fear, or anxiousness depending on the situation. I fought really hard to not let soemthing bother me ,, or rather not let that person know i was affected,,,, but it wasnt till later on i realised how much my life had changed because of them. like i said before ,, it just comes down to what kind of person you are, and what a boring place it would be if we were all the same:D

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:57 am

kazalala;1131440 wrote: it depends on how you were hurt really

some people have no choice ,, out of fear, or anxiousness depending on the situation. I fought really hard to not let soemthing bother me ,, or rather not let that person know i was affected,,,, but it wasnt till later on i realised how much my life had changed because of them. like i said before ,, it just comes down to what kind of person you are, and what a boring place it would be if we were all the same:D Your right and we are all certainly different. I think it can come down to the way you are raised as well. My father had an impressive war history and even though i was a girl, i was raised with the British stiff upper lip and better to be a good runner up than a coward. I had a very strong father and i suppose me and my brothers have taken after him in that respect.

Although my husband has just found out that his cancer has returned, i look around me at my enormous wonderfull family, my lovely home, i'm not short of money,(Only because Gordon didn't raid my pension fund) i have many friends, a good education etc etc and dispite all the shyte things that have happened to me like my ex husband getting shot (long story), i am just so gratefull for what i do have. That's the way i was raised..... to count my blessings and i do every day. :-6:-6

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:04 am

oscar;1131443 wrote: Your right and we are all certainly different. I think it can come down to the way you are raised as well. My father had an impressive war history and even though i was a girl, i was raised with the British stiff upper lip and better to be a good runner up than a coward. I had a very strong father and i suppose me and my brothers have taken after him in that respect.

Although my husband has just found out that his cancer has returned, i look around me at my enormous wonderfull family, my lovely home, i'm not short of money, i have many friends, a good education etc etc and dispite all the shyte things that have happened to me like my ex husband getting shot (long story), i am just so gratefull for what i do have. That's the way i was raised..... to count my blessings and i do every day. :-6:-6

i think we all have blessings to be counted, i know i do and i certainly appreciate the good things in my life both emotionally and materially:) I am pretty strong and sort of the type who just gets on with it always have been. But sometimes its a facade:sneaky: because no matter how we portray, we still have those feelings, i just try not to let them take over too much:rolleyes:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:13 am

kazalala;1131448 wrote: i think we all have blessings to be counted, i know i do and i certainly appreciate the good things in my life both emotionally and materially:) I am pretty strong and sort of the type who just gets on with it always have been. But sometimes its a facade:sneaky: because no matter how we portray, we still have those feelings, i just try not to let them take over too much:rolleyes:

I think we all have times when we put a face on. I know after my trial that people were saying how well i'd coped but they didn't see me some days. Then, i had my husband and family who were absolute rocks so again... Blessings.

There is a difference to putting a face on during a tough time and letting some-thing eat you up for the rest of your days. I'm not critisizing those who do...... I think it's sad that their thoughts are so locked in the past unable to change anything. I wouldn't give any one the satisfaction of letting them know they had affected my life.... no-one's that important and yes, that does sound cold. The day they hurt me is the day they become history.

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:32 am

if this what goes around.............is true

why are there so many evil people alive and good people are dead?

it's the good ones who are always dying.......the evil and wicked ones live on.

can't change my mind on this one.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:37 am

Odie;1131461 wrote: if this what goes around.............is true

why are there so many evil people alive and good people are dead?

it's the good ones who are always dying.......the evil and wicked ones live on.

can't change my mind on this one.

I think there is a lot of difference between some-one deliberately hurting some-one i.e. a rapist or murderer and some-one who is just ignorant. Some people do what they think is right at the time and it can have an affect on people's live's but it's not to say they set out to be deliberately cruel.