Only after the Last Tree has been cut down,
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
Cree Indian Prophecy
Cree Indian Prophecy
I suppose one's supposed to take that either figuratively or literally.
Literally I already know Money Cannot Be Eaten.
Figuratively, until the moment that the Last Tree has been cut down, the Last River has been poisoned and the Last Fish has been caught, money can be eaten. Until that moment it can be exchanged for food. After that moment, admittedly, it no longer can be, but then there's no food anyhow. Before or after the poisoning and the catching and the cutting down, money is more useful than food because it encompasses food.
What I absolutely dispute is the remotest possibility that this text originated in any sense whatever among the Cree Indians.
Literally I already know Money Cannot Be Eaten.
Figuratively, until the moment that the Last Tree has been cut down, the Last River has been poisoned and the Last Fish has been caught, money can be eaten. Until that moment it can be exchanged for food. After that moment, admittedly, it no longer can be, but then there's no food anyhow. Before or after the poisoning and the catching and the cutting down, money is more useful than food because it encompasses food.
What I absolutely dispute is the remotest possibility that this text originated in any sense whatever among the Cree Indians.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1106925 wrote: I suppose one's supposed to take that either figuratively or literally.
Literally I already know Money Cannot Be Eaten.
Figuratively, until the moment that Last Tree has been cut down, the Last River has been poisoned and the Last Fish has been caught, money can be eaten. Until that moment it can be exchanged for food. After that moment, admittedly, it no longer can be, but then there's no food anyhow. Before or after the poisoning and the catching and the cutting down, money is more useful than food because it encompasses food.
What I absolutely dispute is the remotest possibility that this text originated in any sense whatever among the Cree Indians.
Why??
Literally I already know Money Cannot Be Eaten.
Figuratively, until the moment that Last Tree has been cut down, the Last River has been poisoned and the Last Fish has been caught, money can be eaten. Until that moment it can be exchanged for food. After that moment, admittedly, it no longer can be, but then there's no food anyhow. Before or after the poisoning and the catching and the cutting down, money is more useful than food because it encompasses food.
What I absolutely dispute is the remotest possibility that this text originated in any sense whatever among the Cree Indians.
Why??
�You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.�
• Mae West
• Mae West
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minks;1106940 wrote: Why??
Because of the looseness of the attribution. Quotes at least say who first said it and when it was first recorded.
Because of the looseness of the attribution. Quotes at least say who first said it and when it was first recorded.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
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spot;1106974 wrote: Because of the looseness of the attribution. Quotes at least say who said first it and when it was first recorded.
Ok what if it were somebodys granny and they don't want her name public hmmmmmmmmm
Oh Spot you make me shake my head ahahahahahaha tis all good I am just poking fun at ya.
Ok what if it were somebodys granny and they don't want her name public hmmmmmmmmm
Oh Spot you make me shake my head ahahahahahaha tis all good I am just poking fun at ya.
�You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.�
• Mae West
• Mae West
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There are a hundred people who copy things and one person at the start of the chain who deliberately constructs the lie. It's the mindset of the liar that puzzles me. He's consciously adding to the world's stock of misinformation.
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I googled it, and it shows up exactly as posted. It does not give a link to the prophet, I never have heard of it before.
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mikeinie;1106901 wrote: Only after the Last Tree has been cut down,
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet
is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything.
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet
is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Cree Indian Prophecy
Kindle;1107058 wrote: I understood this to mean that good stewardship of our planet
is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything.
But that's not what it actually says. What it actually says is that money is so powerful and ubiquitous that it can take the place of food for as long as there's a tree growing, a river unpoisoned or a fish uncaught. So long as you have money and there's a tree to be bought, a river to pollute or a fish to factory farm you'll never go hungry. I've no idea why anyone would want to associate that sort of Capitalist propaganda with the Cree Indians.
is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything.
But that's not what it actually says. What it actually says is that money is so powerful and ubiquitous that it can take the place of food for as long as there's a tree growing, a river unpoisoned or a fish uncaught. So long as you have money and there's a tree to be bought, a river to pollute or a fish to factory farm you'll never go hungry. I've no idea why anyone would want to associate that sort of Capitalist propaganda with the Cree Indians.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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chonsigirl;1107027 wrote: I googled it, and it shows up exactly as posted. It does not give a link to the prophet, I never have heard of it before.
Right, I've worked out who made it up.
An American lady called Marlo Morgan in 1991.
There is absolutely no earlier use of the "Cree prophesy" before her publication of Mutant Message Down Under. If anyone can find one perhaps they'd like to register here and post comment on this thread.
http://danny.oz.au/anthropology/notes/m ... ssage.html discusses her fraudulent approach to anthropology:[...] there is a very real danger imparted by work such as hers. On the one hand is simply poor science (or fraud) which, when accepted by the mainstream reading community works against more legitimate and verifiable field reports. On the other, and more subtle, is the implication that true "aboriginality" (or otherness) is found in these otherworldly powers and in tribes that "hide from man" and other such pseudo-anthro clap-trap.
Right, I've worked out who made it up.
An American lady called Marlo Morgan in 1991.
There is absolutely no earlier use of the "Cree prophesy" before her publication of Mutant Message Down Under. If anyone can find one perhaps they'd like to register here and post comment on this thread.
http://danny.oz.au/anthropology/notes/m ... ssage.html discusses her fraudulent approach to anthropology:[...] there is a very real danger imparted by work such as hers. On the one hand is simply poor science (or fraud) which, when accepted by the mainstream reading community works against more legitimate and verifiable field reports. On the other, and more subtle, is the implication that true "aboriginality" (or otherness) is found in these otherworldly powers and in tribes that "hide from man" and other such pseudo-anthro clap-trap.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107070 wrote: But that's not what it actually says. What it actually says is that money is so powerful and ubiquitous that it can take the place of food for as long as there's a tree growing, a river unpoisoned or a fish uncaught. So long as you have money and there's a tree to be bought, a river to pollute or a fish to factory farm you'll never go hungry. I've no idea why anyone would want to associate that sort of Capitalist propaganda with the Cree Indians.
I like my interpretation better. It seems more logical.
I like my interpretation better. It seems more logical.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
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Kindle;1107173 wrote: I like my interpretation better. It seems more logical.
You're substituting logic for parsing.
You're substituting logic for parsing.
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When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107174 wrote: You're substituting logic for parsing.
Why is that wrong?
Why is that wrong?
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Cree Indian Prophecy
Kindle;1107447 wrote: Why is that wrong?
What??
Parsing the sentences tells you what's actually being said rather than what you'd like it to say. You're making your own deduction of meaning through applying your own sense of "logic" rather than reading what's written. You're taking into the sentences the missing ingredient "money destroys nature" which doesn't exist in the original. Without that additional assumption your interpretation has no basis whatever. It's an unreasonable assumption. Money's perfectly capable of preserving nature, it's neutral in the matter of preservation or destruction, what matters is what's done with it.
"I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" is a possible explanation for what's written. It's a bogus extrapolation which puts more information into the words than the words themselves carry about "good stewardship". What the words actually say in their own right is what they actually say.
What??
Parsing the sentences tells you what's actually being said rather than what you'd like it to say. You're making your own deduction of meaning through applying your own sense of "logic" rather than reading what's written. You're taking into the sentences the missing ingredient "money destroys nature" which doesn't exist in the original. Without that additional assumption your interpretation has no basis whatever. It's an unreasonable assumption. Money's perfectly capable of preserving nature, it's neutral in the matter of preservation or destruction, what matters is what's done with it.
"I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" is a possible explanation for what's written. It's a bogus extrapolation which puts more information into the words than the words themselves carry about "good stewardship". What the words actually say in their own right is what they actually say.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107575 wrote: What??
Parsing the sentences tells you what's actually being said rather than what you'd like it to say. You're making your own deduction of meaning through applying your own sense of "logic" rather than reading what's written. You're taking into the sentences the missing ingredient "money destroys nature" which doesn't exist in the original. Without that additional assumption your interpretation has no basis whatever. It's an unreasonable assumption. Money's perfectly capable of preserving nature, it's neutral in the matter of preservation or destruction, what matters is what's done with it.
"I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" is a possible explanation for what's written. It's a bogus extrapolation which puts more information into the words than the words themselves carry about "good stewardship". What the words actually say in their own right is what they actually say.
Isnt that just your interpretation though
:-3
Parsing the sentences tells you what's actually being said rather than what you'd like it to say. You're making your own deduction of meaning through applying your own sense of "logic" rather than reading what's written. You're taking into the sentences the missing ingredient "money destroys nature" which doesn't exist in the original. Without that additional assumption your interpretation has no basis whatever. It's an unreasonable assumption. Money's perfectly capable of preserving nature, it's neutral in the matter of preservation or destruction, what matters is what's done with it.
"I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" is a possible explanation for what's written. It's a bogus extrapolation which puts more information into the words than the words themselves carry about "good stewardship". What the words actually say in their own right is what they actually say.
Isnt that just your interpretation though
:-3FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
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kazalala;1107586 wrote: Isnt that just your interpretation though:-3
Not in the slightest, it's what comes of using a dictionary. Either words have meaning or they don't.
:-3Not in the slightest, it's what comes of using a dictionary. Either words have meaning or they don't.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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mikeinie;1106901 wrote: Only after the Last Tree has been cut down,
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I'm trying to understand the point you are trying to make. The last line says "Money cannot be eaten". Of course it can't. Therefore, you need to look deeper into what was previously written. There is meaning here in what was written before this last line. I take this diddy to be a warning.
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I'm trying to understand the point you are trying to make. The last line says "Money cannot be eaten". Of course it can't. Therefore, you need to look deeper into what was previously written. There is meaning here in what was written before this last line. I take this diddy to be a warning.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Cree Indian Prophecy
spot;1107607 wrote: Not in the slightest, it's what comes of using a dictionary. Either words have meaning or they don't.
sometimes words have more than one meaning I take it as meaning,, dont take for granted the things we have for free:)
sometimes words have more than one meaning
I take it as meaning,, dont take for granted the things we have for free:)FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Cree Indian Prophecy
When you use up your resources to gain money
and then there are no resources remaining
what you are left with is money
but you can't eat money
so the choices you made, were bad.
You screwed yourself.
and then there are no resources remaining
what you are left with is money
but you can't eat money
so the choices you made, were bad.
You screwed yourself.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Cree Indian Prophecy
Kindle;1107630 wrote: I'm trying to understand the point you are trying to make. The last line says "Money cannot be eaten". Of course it can't. Therefore, you need to look deeper into what was previously written. There is meaning here in what was written before this last line. I take this diddy to be a warning.
But the aphorism doesn't say "Money cannot be eaten", it says "Only then will you find that Money Cannot Be Eaten". It says before x and x and x you're not capable of discovering Money Cannot Be Eaten because up until that moment it can be eaten because up until that moment it can be exchanged for food.
Where in "I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" do you mention "Only then will you find"?
But the aphorism doesn't say "Money cannot be eaten", it says "Only then will you find that Money Cannot Be Eaten". It says before x and x and x you're not capable of discovering Money Cannot Be Eaten because up until that moment it can be eaten because up until that moment it can be exchanged for food.
Where in "I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" do you mention "Only then will you find"?
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107644 wrote: But the aphorism doesn't say "Money cannot be eaten", it says "Only then will you find that Money Cannot Be Eaten". It says before x and x and x you're not capable of discovering Money Cannot Be Eaten because up until that moment it can be eaten because up until that moment it can be exchanged for food.
Where in "I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" do you mention "Only then will you find"?
And the scales fell from my eyes and I could see.
I understand!
Your interputation is definitely clearer to the words written that the meaning I tried to put to it. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I shall now try to read things with the understanding of what the author writes, instead of inserting my viewpoint.
Where in "I understood this to mean that if good stewardship of our planet is not followed in our greed to have it all and thus we lose everything" do you mention "Only then will you find"?
And the scales fell from my eyes and I could see.
I understand!
Your interputation is definitely clearer to the words written that the meaning I tried to put to it. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I shall now try to read things with the understanding of what the author writes, instead of inserting my viewpoint.
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
Cree Indian Prophecy
im a bit slow then so what does the author mean? Are they being sarcastic? Or have they not even understood the meaning of it themselves,,, not used their words properly?:-2
so what does the author mean? Are they being sarcastic? Or have they not even understood the meaning of it themselves,,, not used their words properly?:-2FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Cree Indian Prophecy
By "author" I take it you're not referring to any pre-industrial Native American. What the fraudulent woman who invented the phrase in 1991 and lied about it being a Cree Indian Prophesy meant when she made it up I haven't a clue, she might well have intended your interpretation. If we're lucky she might even register and tell us. I'm interested in why she felt it meant more with "Cree Indian Prophesy" written under it than it would if she'd put her own name there instead. I'm interested in why she feels a lie passed off as a truth is more meaningful than an acknowledged fiction.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107682 wrote: As for what the fraudulent woman who invented the phrase in 1991 and lied about it being a Cree Indian Prophesy meant when she made it up I haven't a clue, she might well have intended your interpretation. If we're lucky she might even register and tell us. I'm interested in why she felt it meant more with "Cree Indian Prophesy" written under it than it would if she'd put her own name there instead. I'm interested in why she feels a lie passed off as a truth is more meaningful than an acknowledged fiction.
ahh ok, i get it:) and what does she even gain from it?
ahh ok, i get it:) and what does she even gain from it?
FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Cree Indian Prophecy
kazalala;1107690 wrote: ahh ok, i get it:) and what does she even gain from it?
She sold over a million copies and insulted an entire nation of First People in the process.
She sold over a million copies and insulted an entire nation of First People in the process.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107692 wrote: She sold over a million copies and insulted an entire nation of First People in the process.
OH! so she had a book of these quotes? well now i see.
OH! so she had a book of these quotes? well now i see.
FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Cree Indian Prophecy
I think you missed post #10.
Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
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spot;1107703 wrote: I think you missed post #10.
sorry i had seen it but obviously not read it properly:o
sorry i had seen it but obviously not read it properly:o
FOC THREAD PART1
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Cree Indian Prophecy
I believe that the saying may have come from a Cree woman by the name of "Eyes of Fire"
The Cree Indians were a nation of narrators, not writers, so it would be passed down orally.
Money is not mentioned in the "legend of the rainbow" Hopi prophecy, but when the earth becomes sick, a tribe of "Rainbow Warriors" will save the world from environmental destruction and will teach us how to save the planet.
The prophecy goes something like this; one day, because of the man's greed, there would come a time, when the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be.
The words of the Cree prophecy in the book given to one of the founders of Greenpeace by a Native Indian in 1969, which he read in 1971 on a voyage, prompted the re-naming of their ship to "Rainbow Warrior" in 1978, therefore the fraudulent woman couldn't have invented the phrase in 1991.
NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Cree
Where does the name Rainbow Warrior come from?
Bob Hunter, one of the founders of Greenpeace, tells a story in his book, Warriors of the Rainbow, about how this legend crossed his path.
On the first voyage of a Greenpeace ship, the Phyllis Cormack, Bob had taken on board a small book of Indian myths and legends that contained some striking prophesies. The book itself had been given him by an old wandering native American who had told him the book would "change his life" -- something which prompted a bit of cynicism in the Canadian journalist, who tossed the book into a box and forgot about it. But he stocked the Phyllis Cormack with reading material for the voyage, and one stormy evening he said the book literally jumped off the shelf into his hands, and he read it.
A chapter that particularly inspired Hunter related a story an old Cree Indian woman, 'Eyes of Fire' told to her great grandson. Just as they were being overthrown, The Cree Indian people foresaw a time when the white man's materialistic ways would strip the earth of its resources, but just before it was too late the Great Spirit of the Indians would return to resurrect the braves and teach the white man reverence for the earth. They would become known as the Warriors of the Rainbow.
The story circulated in Greenpeace for many years, and in 1978 our first ship, a rusting North Sea Trawler named the "Sir William Hardy" was rechristened "Rainbow Warrior."
Questions about Greenpeace in general | Greenpeace International
The Cree Indians were a nation of narrators, not writers, so it would be passed down orally.
Money is not mentioned in the "legend of the rainbow" Hopi prophecy, but when the earth becomes sick, a tribe of "Rainbow Warriors" will save the world from environmental destruction and will teach us how to save the planet.
The prophecy goes something like this; one day, because of the man's greed, there would come a time, when the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be.
The words of the Cree prophecy in the book given to one of the founders of Greenpeace by a Native Indian in 1969, which he read in 1971 on a voyage, prompted the re-naming of their ship to "Rainbow Warrior" in 1978, therefore the fraudulent woman couldn't have invented the phrase in 1991.
NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Cree
Where does the name Rainbow Warrior come from?
Bob Hunter, one of the founders of Greenpeace, tells a story in his book, Warriors of the Rainbow, about how this legend crossed his path.
On the first voyage of a Greenpeace ship, the Phyllis Cormack, Bob had taken on board a small book of Indian myths and legends that contained some striking prophesies. The book itself had been given him by an old wandering native American who had told him the book would "change his life" -- something which prompted a bit of cynicism in the Canadian journalist, who tossed the book into a box and forgot about it. But he stocked the Phyllis Cormack with reading material for the voyage, and one stormy evening he said the book literally jumped off the shelf into his hands, and he read it.
A chapter that particularly inspired Hunter related a story an old Cree Indian woman, 'Eyes of Fire' told to her great grandson. Just as they were being overthrown, The Cree Indian people foresaw a time when the white man's materialistic ways would strip the earth of its resources, but just before it was too late the Great Spirit of the Indians would return to resurrect the braves and teach the white man reverence for the earth. They would become known as the Warriors of the Rainbow.
The story circulated in Greenpeace for many years, and in 1978 our first ship, a rusting North Sea Trawler named the "Sir William Hardy" was rechristened "Rainbow Warrior."
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Its wonderful what can be uncovered when we go searching for information, well done Spot & Issie.
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Not bad, Issie.
It's a bit wrong factually. The book (see here for evidence) wasWarriors of the Rainbow, Strange & Prophetic Dreams of the Indian Peoples by Brown, Vinson & Willoya, William
1st Edition Publisher: Naturegraph Co Pub, Healdsburg, CA Date Published: 1962and while it does have a story (with no mention of money, just of the last days leading to the intervention by the Warriors of the Rainbow) the teller, Eyes Of The Fire, isn't described as Cree. The word Cree doesn't appear anywhere in the book.
I don't have a copy of it here but Google Books lets you search it.
Here's some snaps. It's copyright so you can't read it online.
If I can see a copy I'll copy the entire legend in here and we'll see how close it gets to what Marlo Morgan invented. There might be parallels once we get to see it in full. I agree it includes "because of man's greed" but I have major doubts about "the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be" or anything resembling that. Where did you get it from?
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It's a bit wrong factually. The book (see here for evidence) wasWarriors of the Rainbow, Strange & Prophetic Dreams of the Indian Peoples by Brown, Vinson & Willoya, William
1st Edition Publisher: Naturegraph Co Pub, Healdsburg, CA Date Published: 1962and while it does have a story (with no mention of money, just of the last days leading to the intervention by the Warriors of the Rainbow) the teller, Eyes Of The Fire, isn't described as Cree. The word Cree doesn't appear anywhere in the book.
I don't have a copy of it here but Google Books lets you search it.
Here's some snaps. It's copyright so you can't read it online.
If I can see a copy I'll copy the entire legend in here and we'll see how close it gets to what Marlo Morgan invented. There might be parallels once we get to see it in full. I agree it includes "because of man's greed" but I have major doubts about "the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be" or anything resembling that. Where did you get it from?
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Nullius in verba ... ☎||||||||||| ... To Fate I sue, of other means bereft, the only refuge for the wretched left.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
When flower power came along I stood for Human Rights, marched around for peace and freedom, had some nooky every night - we took it serious.
Who has a spare two minutes to play in this month's FG Trivia game! ... My other OS is Slackware.
Cree Indian Prophecy
mikeinie;1106901 wrote: Only after the Last Tree has been cut down,
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I swallowed a dime the tooth fairy left and it came out in my poop.
So based upon my personal experience...MYTH BUSTED
Only after the Last River has been poisoned,
Only after the Last Fish has been caught,
Only then will you find that
Money Cannot Be Eaten.
I swallowed a dime the tooth fairy left and it came out in my poop.
So based upon my personal experience...MYTH BUSTED
I AM AWESOME MAN
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Nomad;1129293 wrote: I swallowed a dime the tooth fairy left and it came out in my poop.
So based upon my personal experience your dead wrong.
Myth busted !
:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl
So based upon my personal experience your dead wrong.
Myth busted !
:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth, 5.1
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Credit where its due, if there's something to be found, Spot will find it.