The Meaning of Mincemeat

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:50 am

Mincemeat I know as Meat....and the Xmas Pies as Mince Pies...but why is the bottled stuff for these pies called Mincemeat.I mean if you came to my house and asked for Mincemeat I would serve it up with veg

chonsigirl · Post by **chonsigirl** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:56 am

I make apple pies instead.

My father always wanted mincemeat pies, only one who would eat them. That way he had the whole pie to himself!:wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:57 am

Mince and mincemeat I have always known them as. I was raised by my grandparents. The red wriggly stuff was mince or minced meat/beef, and mincemeat was the sweet stuff that makes me break out in a sweat nowadays.:wah:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:02 am

chonsigirl;1073056 wrote: I make apple pies instead.

My father always wanted mincemeat pies, only one who would eat them. That way he had the whole pie to himself!:wah:Oh boy I do love home made apple pie....mmmmm:-4:-4

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:16 am

OpenMind;1073059 wrote: Mince and mincemeat I have always known them as. I was raised by my grandparents. The red wriggly stuff was mince or minced meat/beef, and mincemeat was the sweet stuff that makes me break out in a sweat nowadays.:wah:
Exactly..............so why is the sweet stuff called MinceMEAT:-3

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:21 am

Carolly;1073091 wrote: Exactly..............so why is the sweet stuff called MinceMEAT:-3

Try this one.

Mincemeat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:23 am

I think I might try the 16th century recipe sometime.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:26 am

jimbo;1073098 wrote: does this help ???

Mincemeat Filling - Mince Pie Club - Everything Mince Pie - News, Reviews, Serving SuggestionsAs it happens it does Winkle........but you killed the bleedin thread:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

The origin of the word 'mincemeat' is often of interest, especially as it does not appear to contain any meat whatsoever. Up to Victorian times, the mince(meat) pie would have actually have been a spiced meat pie with some dried fruit. It has evolved to the point where the only meat in the pie is in the form of suet, an historical throwback.

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:28 am

OpenMind;1073110 wrote: I think I might try the 16th century recipe sometime.Do you like cooking......well I gotta say somefing seeing this threads been killed:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl;)

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:28 am

Mincemeat orginated from the UK, these have nothing to do with meat.

shocked the UKers didn't know this!:yh_rotfl

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Mince pies are a British tradition, usually eaten during Christmas or New Years.

mince pies are traditionally filled with fruit mincemeat, also known as fruitmince, containing dried fruit (raisins, currants, cherries, apricots, candied peels), spices (cinnamon or nutmeg), nuts (walnuts or almonds), suet and alcohol (brandy or rum). The pie is cooked and dusted with caster sugar or icing sugar.

Although many families still make homemade mince pies, they are readily available pre-made through online stores and gourmet shops. You can find a variety of types and flavors. They make great holiday gifts for far away friends and family members without the work.

Mince Pie Traditions

# Mince pie is a favorite of Father Christmas (Santa), so children should leave a plate of pie at the foot of the chimney.

# Only stir the mincemeat mixture clockwise because stirring it counterclockwise is bad luck for the upcoming year.

# While eating the first mince pie of the season, it’s traditional to make a wish.

# Always eat mince pies in silence.

# Eating a mince pie each day of the 12 days of Christmas is good luck for the upcoming year.

# Mince pies should have a star on top, depicting the Christmas star that led the Magi and Shepherds to baby Jesus.

# "Mince pies," "mincers" or "minces" are cockney rhyming slang for "eyes."

Recipes for homemade mince pie:

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:29 am

theres just far too much excitement on this forum :rolleyes:

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:33 am

Odie;1073116 wrote: Mincemeat orginated from the UK, it has nothing to do with meat.

shocked the UKers didn't know this!:yh_rotfl

They are fruit filled desserts.

Walkers Luxury Fruit Mince Tarts

Walkers Luxury Fruit Mince Tarts

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Walkers Luxury Fruit Mince Tarts

These Walkers Luxury Fruit Mince Tarts contain a very traditional fruity and tangy filling. In folklore, mince pies are regarded as a favorite food of Father Christmas, and it is noted that one or two should be left on a plate at the foot of the chimney as a thank you for well-filled stockings.

These Walkers Luxury Mince Tarts are delicious hot or cold, and we recommend serving them with clotted or devon cream, custard, ice cream, or Brandy sauce.

Mince Pies from UKDidnt you see this post Odie;)

The origin of the word 'mincemeat' is often of interest, especially as it does not appear to contain any meat whatsoever. Up to Victorian times, the mince(meat) pie would have actually have been a spiced meat pie with some dried fruit. It has evolved to the point where the only meat in the pie is in the form of suet, an historical throwback

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Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:37 am

kazalala;1073118 wrote: theres just far too much excitement on this forum :rolleyes:Cant believe im talking about mince flipping pies online at 5.30 on a Sunday fgs.....bring back the good old days;):D

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:39 am

Carolly;1073126 wrote: Cant believe im talking about mince flipping pies online at 5.30 on a Sunday fgs.....bring back the good old days;):D

:yh_rotflwe just call it sweet mince here

i like it by the way:D

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:39 am

Oh sorry now...I'm not a great meat eater....don't like mince pie of any kind:-1

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:39 am

Carolly;1073126 wrote: Cant believe im talking about mince flipping pies online at 5.30 on a Sunday fgs.....bring back the good old days;):D

you asked what they were!:yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:41 am

Carolly;1073123 wrote: Didnt you see this post Odie;)

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yes, you knew that!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

nothing do to with meat!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:41 am

Kathy Ellen;1073128 wrote: Oh sorry now...I'm not a great meat eater....don't like mince pie of any kind:-1Kathy they are sweet hun:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfloh gawd I love you babe:D:-4

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:42 am

Kathy Ellen;1073128 wrote: Oh sorry now...I'm not a great meat eater....don't like mince pie of any kind:-1

:yh_rotflits not meat kathy:wah:

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:43 am

Carolly;1073115 wrote: Do you like cooking......well I gotta say somefing seeing this threads been killed:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl;)

Personally, I think that what we've found out about mincemeat should drive the thread on. Recipes, fgs. People love recipes, don't they?:wah:

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:43 am

i always wondered what mincemeat was!

i've never tried it myself!

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:43 am

Odie;1073130 wrote: yes, you knew that!:sneaky::yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

nothing do to with meat!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl
Not now but they used to be as it said....thats how they got called mincemeat pies:D

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:44 am

kazalala;1073133 wrote: :yh_rotflits not meat kathy:wah:

It used to be once though.

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:45 am

Hope6;1073135 wrote: i always wondered what mincemeat was!

i've never tried it myself!

you wont like it Hope if you dont like fruit cake;)

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:47 am

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Mince pies are a British tradition, usually eaten during Christmas or New Years.

mince pies are traditionally filled with fruit mincemeat, also known as fruitmince, containing dried fruit (raisins, currants, cherries, apricots, candied peels), spices (cinnamon or nutmeg), nuts (walnuts or almonds), suet and alcohol (brandy or rum). The pie is cooked and dusted with caster sugar or icing sugar.

Although many families still make homemade mince pies, they are readily available pre-made through online stores and gourmet shops. You can find a variety of types and flavors. They make great holiday gifts for far away friends and family members without the work.

Mince Pie Traditions

# Mince pie is a favorite of Father Christmas (Santa), so children should leave a plate of pie at the foot of the chimney.

# Only stir the mincemeat mixture clockwise because stirring it counterclockwise is bad luck for the upcoming year.

# While eating the first mince pie of the season, it’s traditional to make a wish.

# Always eat mince pies in silence.

# Eating a mince pie each day of the 12 days of Christmas is good luck for the upcoming year.

# Mince pies should have a star on top, depicting the Christmas star that led the Magi and Shepherds to baby Jesus.

# "Mince pies," "mincers" or "minces" are cockney rhyming slang for "eyes."

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:47 am

OpenMind;1073134 wrote: Personally, I think that what we've found out about mincemeat should drive the thread on. Recipes, fgs. People love recipes, don't they?:wah:I agree:yh_rotfl...Ive laughed alot I gotta say that readinbg this thread back....nothing like a good debate is there....and this is nothing like a good debate is it:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:48 am

is it groundhog day:-3:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:50 am

Odie;1073141 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Mince pies are a British tradition, usually eaten during Christmas or New Years.

mince pies are traditionally filled with fruit mincemeat, also known as fruitmince, containing dried fruit (raisins, currants, cherries, apricots, candied peels), spices (cinnamon or nutmeg), nuts (walnuts or almonds), suet and alcohol (brandy or rum). The pie is cooked and dusted with caster sugar or icing sugar.

Although many families still make homemade mince pies, they are readily available pre-made through online stores and gourmet shops. You can find a variety of types and flavors. They make great holiday gifts for far away friends and family members without the work.

Mince Pie Traditions

# Mince pie is a favorite of Father Christmas (Santa), so children should leave a plate of pie at the foot of the chimney.

# Only stir the mincemeat mixture clockwise because stirring it counterclockwise is bad luck for the upcoming year.

# While eating the first mince pie of the season, it’s traditional to make a wish.

# Always eat mince pies in silence.

# Eating a mince pie each day of the 12 days of Christmas is good luck for the upcoming year.

# Mince pies should have a star on top, depicting the Christmas star that led the Magi and Shepherds to baby Jesus.

# "Mince pies," "mincers" or "minces" are cockney rhyming slang for "eyes."
Odie I know what the pies are and what you do with them but didnt know why they...............oh I give up:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 am

Oh boy Im laughing so much here Im crying ffs:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 am

Not all Carol,

oops...didn't take...I'll try again....

Here's the mincemeat pie my grandmother used to make....

something like this.....

Things You’ll Need:

1 tsp. allspice

3 lbs. peeled, cored and sliced apples

2 lbs. chopped beef suet

1 quart brandy

2 quarts cider

1 tbsp. cinnamon

1/2 lb. chopped citron

3 lbs. dark brown sugar

3 lbs. dried currants

1 tbsp. ground cloves

hard sauce

4 lbs. chopped lean beef

1 tbsp. mace

2 cups molasses

1 tsp. nutmeg

piecrust dough for 9-inch, two-crust pie

4 lbs. seeded raisins

2 tsp. salt

OpenMind · Post by **OpenMind** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 am

Carolly;1073143 wrote: I agree:yh_rotfl...Ive laughed alot I gotta say that readinbg this thread back....nothing like a good debate is there....and this is nothing like a good debate is it:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

This is what FG is about. You never know which way a thread is going to swing.

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:53 am

Kathy Ellen;1073154 wrote: Not all Carol,

Here's the mincemeat pie my grandmother used to make....

something like this.....

Things You’ll Need:

Kathy...sorry babe Ive lost the plot here....also is it me but all I can see are strange words and no link or anyfing:-3

:-4

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:53 am

kazalala;1073139 wrote: you wont like it Hope if you dont like fruit cake;)

oh well i better stay away from it then!

:yh_rotfl

kazalala · Post by **kazalala** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:54 am

Now Kathys talking in some secret code

:-2:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:55 am

OpenMind;1073155 wrote: This is what FG is about. You never know which way a thread is going to swing.

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl :yh_rotfl

:yh_rotflFink I will start another great debate up about potatoes:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:56 am

I'll try again......

Kathy Ellen;1073154 wrote: Not all Carol,

oops...didn't take...I'll try again....

Here's the mincemeat pie my grandmother used to make....

something like this.....

Things You’ll Need:

1 tsp. allspice

3 lbs. peeled, cored and sliced apples

2 lbs. chopped beef suet

1 quart brandy

2 quarts cider

1 tbsp. cinnamon

1/2 lb. chopped citron

3 lbs. dark brown sugar

3 lbs. dried currants

1 tbsp. ground cloves

hard sauce

4 lbs. chopped lean beef

1 tbsp. mace

2 cups molasses

1 tsp. nutmeg

piecrust dough for 9-inch, two-crust pie

4 lbs. seeded raisins

2 tsp. salt

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:58 am

Kathy Ellen;1073154 wrote: Not all Carol,

oops...didn't take...I'll try again....

Here's the mincemeat pie my grandmother used to make....

something like this.....

Things You’ll Need:

1 tsp. allspice

3 lbs. peeled, cored and sliced apples

2 lbs. chopped beef suet

1 quart brandy

2 quarts cider

1 tbsp. cinnamon

1/2 lb. chopped citron

3 lbs. dark brown sugar

3 lbs. dried currants

1 tbsp. ground cloves

hard sauce

4 lbs. chopped lean beef

1 tbsp. mace

2 cups molasses

1 tsp. nutmeg

piecrust dough for 9-inch, two-crust pie

4 lbs. seeded raisins

2 tsp. saltAhhhh now we are getting somewhere:DSo she actually used meat from the original recipes.....wow......gotta say though Kathy apart from the meat it looks fab and I could eat that.....wouldn't you eat it now that meat has gone from it

;)

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:58 am

Jasus, Open Mind:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

I'd rather have a debate about mincemeat pies and spuds than a political or religious debate:wah::wah:

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:58 am

jimbo;1073147 wrote: dispite my efforts the thread has lived on :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

you can't kill a thread around here if you try to kill it on purpose, just look at the thread killers thread! it's over 1000 posts! :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

besides this is interesting, i neve knew what mincemeat was! see i learned something here today!

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:00 am

Carolly;1073170 wrote: Ahhhh now we are getting somewhere:DSo she actually used meat from the original recipes.....wow......gotta say though Kathy apart from the meat it looks fab and I could eat that.....wouldn't you eat it now that meat has gone from it

;)

Oh yes Carol...this one I'd eat without the meat..... Huuuummmmmmm.....think I might try it during the holidays.:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:01 am

jimbo;1073147 wrote: dispite my efforts the thread has lived on :yh_rotfl:yh_rotflBest laugh Ive had here for ages also:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Carolly · Post by **Carolly** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:02 am

Kathy Ellen;1073175 wrote: Oh yes Carol...this one I'd eat without the meat..... Huuuummmmmmm.....think I might try it during the holidays.:yh_rotflEveryone will be eating bleedin mince pies now:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Kathy Ellen · Post by **Kathy Ellen** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:05 am

Carolly;1073177 wrote: Everyone will be eating bleedin mince pies now:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Now, about the potatoe debate:( Which are better...European or American??????

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:06 am

Carolly;1073150 wrote: Odie I know what the pies are and what you do with them but didnt know why they...............oh I give up:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

you said you had only heard of meat pies!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

perhaps you need a nap hun!:wah::yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:08 am

Carolly;1073143 wrote: ...nothing like a good debate is there....and this is nothing like a good debate is it:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

at least us women don't get soooooooo upset like the men do here!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

Hope6 · Post by **Hope6** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:08 am

Kathy Ellen;1073183 wrote: :yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl Now, about the potatoe debate:( Which are better...European or American??????

the potatoes we grow right here in our garden are the best i've ever tasted anywhere!

:yh_rotfl

Odie · Post by **Odie** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:11 am

Carolly;1073177 wrote: Everyone will be eating bleedin mince pies now:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

with fruit, not meat!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl

can't stop laughing, best thread ever!:D

just had to rate this a 5!:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl