Painkillers and blood pressure

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:47 am

http://www.nbc17.com/health/4856968/detail.html

New study out today. Thought some of you might find it interesting.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:49 am

Surely they're not implying that Tylenol raises women's blood pressure but not men's!?!

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:53 am

Accountable wrote: Surely they're not implying that Tylenol raises women's blood pressure but not men's!?!

That's sure what it sounds like to me!

Let me see if I can find out more... but I've looked at a few articles and

none has mentioned anything about men!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:54 am

Far Rider wrote: I'm mostly being a pain here Val. Maybe I ought to just shut up.

Yeh, 'cause you're getting my blood pressure up.

CARLA · Post by **CARLA** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:09 am

It has long been known the any anti-inflamatory will raise your blood pressure, with the exception of asprin(which will rip your stomach up). They thought Tylenol wasn't in that group, but they are finding out otherwise. I have taken Tylenol instead of Painkillers for a long time and yes my blood pressure is higher now. When I only take painkillers (for my screwed up neck) my blood pressure is lower. So what that is tell me is take THE VICODINE and lower my blood pressure. Chronic pain is the problem that doctors truly don't know how to manager, or are afraid of.

I'm luck I have a great doctor that can see the forest for the trees. He knows I can properly take vicodine with out become addicted. The key being if your are truly in PAIN you can't become addicted.

Interesting study for sure, but I think the medical community was aware of this already.

actionfigurestepho · Post by **actionfigurestepho** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:40 am

I'm on BP meds and they told me to take Tylenol anyway. Taking one tylenol isn't going to hurt you, it's when you take a whole handful of them that it becomes bad (and coincidentally can destroy your kidneys.)

Moderation!

Taking too much of any pain killer is going to be bad.

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:44 am

Far Rider wrote: Ok the study abstract says it was done off questioniares, for women with predomintly headaches? I wonder if they cross referenced stress as a factor for increased BP?

If thier headaches were caused by stress, and we know stress increases blood pressure and headaches are a sign of stress... well then theres your answer...

I'm mostly being a pain here Val. Maybe I ought to just shut up.

I don't think you're being a pain at all!!

Stress and/or headache can indeed increase your BP. And pain, well, I

found that out a while back when I had a pinched sciatic nerve and my

normally excellent BP went right through the roof!!

I think it's one of those things that you just have to take each with a

very large grain of salt, eh? I am an aspirin taker, stick with the

buffered and always eat a little something with it so I do alright.

I love Vicodin but unfortunately because of all the abuse out there,

doctors tend to look askance at you when you ask for it!

:-6

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:18 pm

actionfigurestepho wrote: I'm on BP meds and they told me to take Tylenol anyway. Taking one tylenol isn't going to hurt you, it's when you take a whole handful of them that it becomes bad (and coincidentally can destroy your kidneys.)[...]
Ouch! the irony alone is enough to raise your blood pressure.

:-2 Too much, huh?

I'll just sit quietly over here.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:16 pm

Geez - maybe I just found a cure for my very low blood pressure! Sometimes it is so low I can hardly put one foot in front of the other. My doc calls me the walking sleeper. The only time I was hospitalized was when I was in my 9th month of pregnancy and it dropped to 65/40. Usually I just eat a bunch of fruit or sugar and that seems to help.

Jives · Post by **Jives** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:35 pm

lol. The nurse at the doctor's office told me (after I had waited 2 hours to see the doctor) that my blood pressure was a little high. I told her, "It's reflecting my aggravation level.":wah:

KritterLover · Post by **KritterLover** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:07 pm

valerie wrote: http://www.nbc17.com/health/4856968/detail.html

New study out today. Thought some of you might find it interesting.
Thanks for the information valerie. Have been dealing with daily headaches and now raised BP. Been taking Tylenol for the headaches, so guess I will go a different direction!

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:56 pm

Far Rider wrote: you know I have a headache treatment, cures any head ache in 90 to 120 seconds! garunteed, it never misses and im not joking around... let me find a link and get it posted....

heres the definition:

STRAIN-COUNTERSTRAIN

Originally developed by Lawrence Jones, D.O., FAAO, this technique is defined as "a passive positional procedure that places the body in a position of greatest comfort, thereby relieving pain by reduction and arrest of inappropriate proprioceptor activity that maintains somatic dysfunction."5 This technique is uniquely different from other manual techniques as it is considered an indirect technique as positioning occurs opposite the restricted barrier and is thus very comfortable for the patient, even in the acute stage.
I wouldn't trust it. I went to a FAAO once, named Schwartz. Guy must've been a pediatrician because kids were everywhere. Very disappointing.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:47 pm

UMMM - I love my chiro for headaches :-4

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:18 pm

Well just saw national news on this whole study... apparently pretty flawed!

(And Far, one doctor brought up PAIN as BP rise cause!!;) )

The study relied on people to say the amounts they were taking of the

painkillers, and whether they had been diagnosed with high BP. Great.

People running the study didn't do any of that themselves.

Oh well.

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:22 pm

Geez Val did you read the new FDA thing that the man who ran all the menopause studies that stated hormone replacement prevented breast cancer - is now in jail for falsifying his data. :-5

valerie · Post by **valerie** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:28 pm

nvalleyvee wrote: Geez Val did you read the new FDA thing that the man who ran all the menopause studies that stated hormone replacement prevented breast cancer - is now in jail for falsifying his data. :-5

No, I didn't but it figures. Guy oughta be strung up by his you-know-whats!

nvalleyvee · Post by **nvalleyvee** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:09 pm

They say he caused a bunch of us to take hormones - I didn't get there but I think of all the women who took those drugs and it PISSES me off.

cars · Post by **cars** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:13 pm

valerie wrote: That's sure what it sounds like to me!

Let me see if I can find out more... but I've looked at a few articles and

none has mentioned anything about men!

It's Women that raise men's Blood pressure!!!

kmhowe72 · Post by **kmhowe72** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:34 am

ok there it is. I read the same thing on aol. But I think now I'll just be more cautionous.