What you really don't want to know about obama

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:57 am

The Daily Mail Monday 13th October

This may come as a shock to most people, but Obama is at the centre of a network of radical associations which he has tried to conceal.

Take for example his relationship with William Ayers, founder of the terrorist Weather Underground which bombed federal buildings in the 1960's and who has consistently maintained his radical views ever since.

Obama's own political career was actually launched in Ayer's Chicago house at a fund-raising event in 1995 which fired the starting gun for his run at the Illinois Senate.

Not only that, Obama and Ayer's both sat on the boards of two organisations, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund. these organisations put into practice Ayer's revolutionary ideology by channelling money supposed to fund regular educational projects into extreme radical groups instead.

Ayer's told a magazine, "I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough".

Through the Woods Fund, Obama also funnelled millions of dollars to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform now (ACORN). described by an academic sympathiser as "a uniquely militant organisation", ACORN played a significant role in the sub-prime scandel - which detonated America's financial crisis - by physically intimidating banks into lowering credit standards for poor and minority customers.

The Obama campaign has paid an ACORN subsidiary $800,000 to register new voters. But now, numerous states are launching investigations into massive voter fraud being carried out by ACORN activists who are being caught falsifying voter registration cards, registering ficticious individuals and hounding voters to register multiple times.

But Obama's connections with ACORN go even deeper. For several years running he trained it's activists and in 1992 even ran one of it's voter registration projects.

Such radical links fit with other highly dubious associations Obama has made.

Obama never distanced himself from the anti-white teachings of his church, which was heavily influenced by the philosophy of the black racist James Cone who claimed that "Whiteness is the symbol of the antichrist".

After the controversy over Wright, Obama has become close to another preacher, Jim Wallis, who spews out the same anti-American message -- Once calling the US, "the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life".

ACORN is heavily involved with a Marxist group called the Chicago New Party, whose strategy is to force the Democratic Party to the far left by infiltrating it and "burrowing from within". In 1996, the New Party exulted that one of it's members who had just been successful in the political primary season was -- Barack Obama.

Just consider if the boot had been on the other foot and McCain's political career had been launched by an abortion clinic bomber, his mentor for 20 years had been a Ku Klux Klansman, and he had paid nearly a million dollars to far-right militais who strong-armed voters into fraudulent registrations.

What is incredible, is that a man with such a background in anti-western thinking can now stand on the verge of becoming the leader of the free world.

What do you think now???

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:38 am

I guess Im surprised by the people that put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5 more than anything.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:41 am

Nomad;1018471 wrote: I guess Im surprised by the people that put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5 more than anything.

If it's in The Daily mail Nomad, it has to be true.

They only have the finest of British Journalists who go right to the heart of a story before printing anything.

They certainly would not be biased in any way. It is Britain's finest quality newspaper and totally reliable.

gmc in particular raves about the calibre of this paper.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:55 am

oscar;1018478 wrote: If it's in The Daily mail Nomad, it has to be true.

They only have the finest of British Journalists who go right to the heart of a story before printing anything.

They certainly would not be biased in any way. It is Britain's finest quality newspaper and totally reliable.

gmc in particular raves about the calibre of this paper.

The facts may exist. They may put the two together. How the facts are intertwined, tweaked and manipulated are another story.

Just the fact that they had dealings with eachother doesnt attest to Obamas intent, desire or manifest for himself and his future.

Is it possible select Republicans could be throwing mud to see where it sticks ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:02 am

Nomad;1018512 wrote: The facts may exist. They may put the two together. How the facts are intertwined, tweaked and manipulated are another story.

Just the fact that they had dealings with eachother doesnt attest to Obamas intent, desire or manifest for himself and his future.

Is it possible select Republicans could be throwing mud to see where it sticks ?

Possibly the Republicans are out for revenge after the Democrats tried to smear Sarah Palin saying she abused her position with all that nonsense about her brother-in-law in Alaska.

The British do it as well. You wait until we are nearing a General Election in about a year. You'll really see some dirty tactics then.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:04 am

oscar;1018523 wrote: Possibly the Republicans are out for revenge after the Democrats tried to smear Sarah Palin saying she abused her position with all that nonsense about her brother-in-law in Alaska.

The British do it as well. You wait until we are nearing a General Election in about a year. You'll really see some dirty tactics then.

Right. Thats all Im saying.

Like they say, theres your side, theres my side, and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

However.....everything they say about Palin is true. Thats undisputable.

Galbally · Post by **Galbally** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:17 am

Again I feel the heavy hand of sarcasm on my shoulder. :wah:

Its like Oscar says, if its in the Daily Mail, it must be true.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:18 am

Jester;1018536 wrote: Doesnt matter- Kenya born Barack Hussein Obama the 2, (currently legally Barry Seateo), is ineligibale to hold office as POTUS.

Hillary's buddy's filed the suit, Barry blocked it, the original birth certificate has not been reviewed or investigated, he was legally adopted and his name was changed. He is not Barack Obama any more, even his grama calls him Barry, and so does his mother.

Hillary sat on the suit, hoping she was going to get the Vice prez nod, when she didn't she grinned an evil grinch grin and sat some more. She's now going to open the suit up and have it proceed if Barack wins the presidency so she can get Biden as Prez, and Biden pulls her in as Vice, settign herself up for the future.

You heard it here first folks.

Sorry jester, i read that weeks ago in a British newspaper. As it wasn't the Daily Mail, i dismissed it as rubbish.

However, i'm with you on Barry.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:19 am

Galbally;1018551 wrote: Again I feel the heavy hand of sarcasm on my shoulder. :wah:

Its like Oscar says, if its in the Daily Mail, it must be true.

I'm a lady galbally, i do not resort to the lowest form of wit. :sneaky:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:27 am

Jester;1018564 wrote: ahahahaha, well we shall see! the law suit claims evidence that his mother was not aboard the plane to hawaii! This will be interesting!

Those damn Clintons like a fight don't they?

Go Hilary Go!!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:30 am

Nomad;1018512 wrote: The facts may exist. They may put the two together. How the facts are intertwined, tweaked and manipulated are another story.

Just the fact that they had dealings with eachother doesnt attest to Obamas intent, desire or manifest for himself and his future.

Is it possible select Republicans could be throwing mud to see where it sticks ?

What happens if the Individual States do throw up compelling evidence of vote rigging by Obama through these organisations.??

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:31 am

Even McCain thinks obama is wonderful

There is a monster raving loony party in the states after all, here's their presidential candidate

:yh_rotfl

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:42 am

gmc;1018571 wrote: Even McCain thinks obama is wonderful

There is a monster raving loony party in the states after all, here's their presidential candidate

:yh_rotfl

:yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp

Seriously, i think that was really noble of McCain to try to allay the fears of the American people that an arab is about to take over their country.

As for dipstick Hilton, she's not even worthy of the monster raving loony party.

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:09 am

oscar;1018583 wrote: :yh_worshp:yh_worshp:yh_worshp

Seriously, i think that was really noble of McCain to try to allay the fears of the American people that an arab is about to take over their country.

As for dipstick Hilton, she's not even worthy of the monster raving loony party.

I don't know about that. Compared to these guys she's comes across as an intellectual giant.

Highly biased video of course.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:19 am

gmc;1018615 wrote: I don't know about that. Compared to these guys she's comes across as an intellectual giant.

Highly biased video of course.

Mr Oscar says she's got the best tits.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:31 am

What I do know is that I would sure as hell hate to be judged today on the basis of people I knew and associated with in one fashion or another years ago.

If you do a Google search on William Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis I think you will find that the William Ayers of today is not the William Ayers of bomb throwing days and that Davis though a communist was pretty benign right up to his death.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:37 am

Lon;1018640 wrote: What I do know is that I would sure as hell hate to be judged today on the basis of people I knew and associated with in one fashion or another years ago.

If you do a Google search on William Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis I think you will find that the William Ayers of today is not the William Ayers of bomb throwing days and that Davis though a communist was pretty benign right up to his death.

I don't know Lon. Just the words bomb throwing sort of does it for me.

A bit like associating the words McCain and helicopters in the same sentence.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:39 am

Bin Laden doesn't frighten me.

I've seen his video's.

We know he's got a rifle and we know he's got a donkey.

If there was a cruise missile strapped to his back, i'd be a little nervous.

If the donkey had a cruise missile strapped to his back, i'd be worried.

Lon · Post by **Lon** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:48 am

oscar;1018649 wrote: I don't know Lon. Just the words bomb throwing sort of does it for me.

A bit like associating the words McCain and helicopters in the same sentence.

You are right Oscar---------take a dark skinned guy with a funny name, throw in a few bombs, a little Marxism, try to tie him into everything except the sinking of the Titanic, and that's enough to scare the crap out of many.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:20 am

Lon;1018660 wrote: You are right Oscar---------take a dark skinned guy with a funny name, throw in a few bombs, a little Marxism, try to tie him into everything except the sinking of the Titanic, and that's enough to scare the crap out of many.

We've got alot of politicians in this country who are all colours of the rainbow, especially dark skinned with names that have no vowels in them.

Frankly, i wouldn't trust one of them, but that's from a political stance and not colour or funny name.

My views on Obama are merely an observation as they are equally to the British Press. We do not judge on colour, sex or name.

If O.J. Simpson came here, ran for parliment and had a decent manifesto, i'd vote for him.

Half of American governments supported and funded the IRA. We do not judge any-one.

We have heard all the mud slinging about McCain as well. people will make their own minds up.

Flamethrower · Post by **Flamethrower** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:05 pm

OK folks.....you mean you're JUST discovering these things about Barack Obama?

Just a bit slow on the uptake!

Anyone who has been paying close attention to the details and not just the surface has known about 95% of the info in the OP for 2 - 3 months now.

Check out the connection with Obama and Odinga.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7176683.stm

Now seeing as Mr Odinga is a proponent of enforcing Sharia law in Kenya, would it be much of a stretch to see Obama attempting to manifest some sort of similar, if not as intense (at first) plan?

Come on folks....Obama is an empty suit with handlers based in the radical far left of America. I wouldn't put anything into the realm of impossible with those nutcases running the show!

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:33 pm

Flamethrower;1019179 wrote: OK folks.....you mean you're JUST discovering these things about Barack Obama?

Just a bit slow on the uptake!

! Yeah yeah yeah. We probably got it before you. We just chose to ignore it until now.

You do realise that's a British link you've added do you?

You do understand that we would have got that way before you??

You'll be quoting The Daily Mail at us next.

We're British, we do things in our own time when we want.

There have been other threads on it way back along with all the mud slinging at Palin and McCain.

Slow on the uptake??? Check out which world leader was the first to fly out to Bush with another bailout package for you? Checkout which world leader sacked all it's bank chiefs this morning and bought the banks out, there fore ending the UK economy crisis.

Slow?? We don't think so. :yh_rotfl

Slow?? Check out your own history in the great war and WW11

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:34 pm

[quote=Flamethrower;1019179]

Now seeing as Mr Odinga is a proponent of enforcing Sharia law in Kenya, would it be much of a stretch to see Obama attempting to manifest some sort of similar, if not as intense (at first) plan?

Strike 1 flame dude.

I am curious as to how you think hed be able to pull this off though.

Mass hypnosis ?

When everyone is sleeping ?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:44 pm

Nomad;1019609 wrote: [quote=Flamethrower;1019179]

Now seeing as Mr Odinga is a proponent of enforcing Sharia law in Kenya, would it be much of a stretch to see Obama attempting to manifest some sort of similar, if not as intense (at first) plan?

Strike 1 flame dude.

I am curious as to how you think hed be able to pull this off though.

Mass hypnosis ?

When everyone is sleeping ?

It's quite funny that you should say that Nomad.

The British people went to bed one sunday night and we woke up to find our government had slipped "Sharia" law in.

People were reading it in the press the next day, asking "What the ****???!

But it's absoluetly true.

Yep, not only do we have hate filled preacher clerics in our country but now they've got their own civil law that under the "British human Rights Act", they will probably start stoning women in the street for adultry, chopping hands off and carrying out their own "Honour" killings.

That's the loony left for you??

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:48 pm

oscar;1019612 wrote: [quote=Nomad;1019609]

It's quite funny that you should say that Nomad.

The British people went to bed one sunday night and we woke up to find our government had slipped "Sharia" law in.

People were reading it in the press the next day, asking "What the ****???!

But it's absoluetly true.

Yep, not only do we have hate filled preacher clerics in our country but now they've got their own civil law that under the "British human Rights Act", they will probably start stoning women in the street for adultry, chopping hands off and carrying out their own "Honour" killings.

That's the loony left for you??

Wouldnt fly here period.

And anyone that thinks this is what Obama is up to is probably a direct result of inbreeding.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:01 pm

Nomad;1019614 wrote: [quote=oscar;1019612]

Wouldnt fly here period.

And anyone that thinks this is what Obama is up to is probably a direct result of inbreeding.

It just keeps rearing it's ugly head just the same as McCain and Palin get slated.

I haven't heard anything too bad on Biden.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:06 pm

oscar;1019624 wrote: [quote=Nomad;1019614]

It just keeps rearing it's ugly head just the same as McCain and Palin get slated.

I haven't heard anything too bad on Biden.

I believe thats a last ditch effort from a campaign in trouble oscar.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:21 am

Only time will really tell.

But let's remember, this is a nation that voted Bush in --- twice

I have seen most of anything American and worldwide press can sling at McCain and Palin. What's the worst?? She's got a dodgy brother-in-law, he's got an ex wife and a habit of crashing helicopters.

If there was much else to throw at at the McCain campaign, it surely would have come out by now, this near to the election.

However, we do keep seeing fresh news come to light about Obama.

They just keep on digging it up.

It's not just our press, it's America's own press that keeps finding it.

American people are getting so worried that even McCain had to re-assure them that Obama was not an Arab. You missed an opportunity there McCain but we'll put that one down to age.

We are not blatently biased in this country. We are all looking on objectively.

Fuzzy's right, if he gets in, there's sure going to be alot of dissapointed Americans.--- although they are pretty much used to that, with Bush. :sneaky:

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:09 pm

Lon;1018640 wrote: What I do know is that I would sure as hell hate to be judged today on the basis of people I knew and associated with in one fashion or another years ago.

If you do a Google search on William Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis I think you will find that the William Ayers of today is not the William Ayers of bomb throwing days and that Davis though a communist was pretty benign right up to his death.

Lon, I've seen recent interviews with Ayers and he still does not regret the bombings and wishes he could have done more.

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm

What is pretty ironic about the Ayers interview where he said he should have done more, was released on 9/11/01.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:21 pm

shelbell;1020172 wrote: What is pretty ironic about the Ayers interview where he said he should have done more, was released on 9/11/01.

THANKYOU Shellbell, see Lon?? It's not just Britain who has these concerns.

I only post what is in our tabloids. They are not all gutter press or hacks.

Some put a heck of alot of research into what they write. If they didn't -- they'd have lawsuits piled high on their desks.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:22 pm

shelbell;1020172 wrote: What is pretty ironic about the Ayers interview where he said he should have done more, was released on 9/11/01.

Chilling --- is a word i'd rather use. Possibly, also --- deliberate is another.

cars · Post by **cars** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:43 pm

And they say, Obama lacks experience! It seems like he has plenty of past experience!!!

shelbell · Post by **shelbell** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:44 pm

oscar;1020184 wrote: Chilling --- is a word i'd rather use. Possibly, also --- deliberate is another.

Makes you wonder just exactly who his associations are now...That would have to be one of the biggest coincidences I've ever seen.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:22 pm

shelbell;1020198 wrote: Makes you wonder just exactly who his associations are now...That would have to be one of the biggest coincidences I've ever seen.

Well, i've never really taken much heed of the warnings of Nostradamus but he allegedly predicted that the third anti-christ (first Napoleaon, 2nd Hitler) would rise in the world of politics in the New World (America).

Seriously though, it's looking dodgy.

Then there is all this stuff we are getting here about Barry Bingo not actually being American. If he gets in, Hilary Clinton is going to get him defrocked so Biden will take over to appoint Hils as VP.

Is this nonsence? Can anyone shed light on this? I don't believe anything until i've seen it in my Daily Mail.