Bush says we must stand together

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oscar;1017286 wrote: The clue is the the title "Anti-Terrorism and Crime act!.

Iceland were approached for this money before their banks were on the verge of collapse.

They have avoided paying the £35 billion illegally. That is a crime and it comes under the "Anti terrorism and crime act".

It is not just Britain that Iceland owed this money to, it was America as well.

In effect, Gordon Brown was protecting Creditors and depositors in America as well. Note that Bush didn't have the balls to do it.

Negotiations with Iceland did not work. This law was the only one Gordon Brown could have used to immediately cease Iceland from trading and bleeding dry more British and American Investors.

The mere fact that as soon as Gordon Brown got nasty, the Icelandic government were threatening to find "new friends" just about sums up their mentality.

I make no bones about the fact that i am actually proud of our Prime Minister for doing this. It might be a lesson to other countrie's who think the UK is a pushover.

Brown is basically saying "Enough".

Iceland refusing to pay this money back was a threat to the UK economy, he was within his rights to use this law.

Iceland have a population of just 300,000. The debt is approx £160,000 for every-one of their citizens. Every-one of them would have benifited from reduced taxes, higher wages, benifit and a better economy. Now it's payback time - they don't like it and are threatening to accept an offer of money from Russia.

Who the hell wants to trade with a country who threatens this?

The icelandic citizens won't be giving a toss when our pensioners can not affored to put their heating on this winter or our jobs are being axed.

Why should we give a toss about them?

Bloody well done Gordon Brown.


When Bradford and bingley were nationalised they sold the sellable assets to santander leaving you the taxp[ayer will all the bad debt. Any other company goes bust they sell the assets in order to pay the creditors they don't let some other rival company buy the best bits and leave the bill with the taxpayer. That's what happened with Bradford and Bingley.

With Northern Rock they are forcing people coming to the end if a fixed rate to re-mortgage elsewhere by only offering the variable rate. so they have the additional expense and worry of going to another lender-of which there are now very few. Meanwhile new borowers get nice low fixed rates. They're dong it to get the mortgage redeemed to ray and pay back the debt,

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Shame about all the british shareholders in B & B and Northern rock that have just lost everything and the shareholders in HBOS that have seen their value wiped out. Course that's just the risk investors take.

Company business accounts in this country were not protected if the bank went bankrupt nor are any deposits made by local authorities. Can you see Gordon Brown offering to help out small businesses that lose money on deposit i=or some poor soul in the middle of house sale that has the money from the sale of one property on deposit the day the bank goes bust.

The icelandic banks were a private concern, what iceland did was exactly the same as we have done with B & B and northern rock. It is neither criminal nor an act of terrorism. What Gordon Brown has done is pathetic and probably illegal-no doubt Iceland will go to court over this being too small to go to war.

Too bad all the british investors with lehmans have lost their money. Maybe Gordon Brown should seize American assets in this country-try and get back the millions that were shifted to the states just before they went down. Now that was criminal, sack all the british staff but pay bonuses to their american counterparts. Or did the daily Mail not mention that?

The local authorities could have moved their money before this happened, there was plenty warning and with electronic transfer of finds they could have had them out the same day- but didn't the only reason GB did this is he knows the govt would have to make up the losses to the local authorities-anyone else would be stuffed basically.

After BCCI went down councils were supposed to be more careful about what they did with their money and be aware of he possibility of bank failures.

posted by meikeinie

All the British should be hanging their heads in shame and embarrassment.


Just wait for the next election.

posted by galbally

In fact Britain's budgetary position is even worse, it is the most heavily endebted nation out of all the G7, and totally reliant on the City of London for much of its economic activity and tax base, the population are also the most heavily endebted people in the industrialized world and are also facing a housing crash just like us in Ireland). I just hope that Britain's foreign creditors show more mercy to Britain should the worse come to the worse, than Britain has shown to Iceland, which I accept has acted foolishly but is now in a position that it simply cannot get out of without help and understanding.


That would require joined up thinking and foresight. Now tell me has our present lot shown any capacity to think beyond the next sound bite? Only good thing about it is it might get us away from this daft notion we can be purely service economy and nothing else really matters.

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spot;1017329 wrote: That's a thoughtful and interesting post Gal. I'm not sure I approve of refunding the various councils, police authorities and hospital trusts that went after the huge interest rates abroad either. The bleating whine of "we followed best practice" sounds not just hollow, it sounds untrue. Let these organizations take stock of their staff and hold internal enquiries, let them see what dates safety ratings were lowered and who was on watch when the rocks hove into view. Let's see a bit of blood on the payroll.


Spot is right as usual.

Our police forces, fire brigade, charitie's and local councils have sunk millions into dodgy Icelandic banks.

Our council tax will no doubt pay for their mistakes.

What Gordon Brown did to stop Iceland trading was also to stop local authoritie's having more stupidity and investing more of our money.

Let's see some of these idiots made accountable.

I want to see their jobs axed.

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gmc;1017362 wrote:

Too bad all the british investors with lehmans have lost their money. Maybe Gordon Brown should seize American assets in this country-try and get back the millions that were shifted to the states just before they went down.


Not a bad idea on reflection.

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Spot, do you happen to know if there is a local party for The Raving Monster loony party in our Kingswood Constiuancy?? Without me googling for hours and upsetting Mr Oscar who now complains i spend too much time on FG.

(And reading The Daily Mail).

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"The Daily Mail" October 11th

"The beggar-thy-neighbour approach to guaranteeing bank deposits, which started when Ireland decided to act unilaterally , was among the factors which sank financial shares and the stock market"



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oscar;1017455 wrote: "The Daily Mail" October 11th

"The beggar-thy-neighbour approach to guaranteeing bank deposits, which started when Ireland decided to act unilaterally , was among the factors which sank financial shares and the stock market"



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I totally agree that the Irish government should have had better contact with the other Eurozone countries, before it saved its financial system though it only had 24 hours and it was a Sunday. :wah:

Its a little uncharitable to blame the Irish government for the run on banks in Europe though, I think that may have more to do with the fact that the banks business model involved borrowing loads of money and then throwing it down some big drain called "investment opportunity in taunton, 2 bedroom council flat on toxic dump, needs a brief MDF based makeover by Lawrence Llywellan Bowen, and 24-hour protection from local thugs (average age 12) only £3,400,000" dole applicants most welcome.

I am also not sure if taking lectures from the British newspaper industry about the merits of "european co-operation" is a bit of an oxymoron. These are the same guys who want Britain out of the European Union and away from the "damn EU technocrats!" aren't they? Sure the EU is only made up of horrible unpredicable foreigners anyway who are all closet Nazi's ands want to destroy ancient British traditions such as curvy bananas, using bushells as a unit of measurement, and being able to hector the French for no reason whatsoever, (not like the Americans who are be trusted with your economy and foreign policy no questions asked mate). Well, now's your chance, you can form a monetary union with iceland, and the rump states of New England (that will only be too eager to rejoin the UK once the Union collapses over there). :-6

Anyway, the basic message is I totally agree with your original feelings about Bush and his call for "unity" and all of that. But I do think as you have alluded to, we all need to get serious and not be backbiting or bitching, especially in Europe as we are all so linked together now.

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oscar;1017387 wrote: Not a bad idea on reflection.
I think alot of us would actually like to see it. Would serve the execs right.

[gmc]

Galbally;1017507 wrote: I totally agree that the Irish government should have had better contact with the other Eurozone countries, before it saved its financial system though it only had 24 hours and it was a Sunday. :wah:

Its a little uncharitable to blame the Irish government for the run on banks in Europe though, I think that may have more to do with the fact that the banks business model involved borrowing loads of money and then throwing it down some big drain called "investment opportunity in taunton, 2 bedroom council flat on toxic dump, needs a brief MDF based makeover by Lawrence Llywellan Bowen, and 24-hour protection from local thugs (average age 12) only £3,400,000" dole applicants most welcome.

I am also not sure if taking lectures from the British newspaper industry about the merits of "european co-operation" is a bit of an oxymoron. These are the same guys who want Britain out of the European Union and away from the "damn EU technocrats!" aren't they? Sure the EU is only made up of horrible unpredicable foreigners anyway who are all closet Nazi's ands want to destroy ancient British traditions such as curvy bananas, using bushells as a unit of measurement, and being able to hector the French for no reason whatsoever, (not like the Americans who are be trusted with your economy and foreign policy no questions asked mate). Well, now's your chance, you can form a monetary union with iceland, and the rump states of New England (that will only be too eager to rejoin the UK once the Union collapses over there). :-6

Anyway, the basic message is I totally agree with your original feelings about Bush and his call for "unity" and all of that. But I do think as you have alluded to, we all need to get serious and not be backbiting or bitching, especially in Europe as we are all so linked together now.


The daily mail are closet nazis themselves-I imagine they will declaring their support for the BNP any time soon-or maybe the english national party if the scots vote for independence and call for invasion to get the oil back :sneaky:

I think generally the population is less anti-european than the daily mail and clowns like ukip would have us want to believe.

It's an improvement-better than the we are up **** creek without a paddle-paddle faster I don't see the problem- approach Bush had before.

Slightly more sensible analysis

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/cgi-bin ... dte=101008

And finally...you may recall that a clever individual invented a clock to count the total US debt in order to highlight its level and to hopefully embarrass the political leaders into forcing them to reduce it and have the clock count it down. It started in 1989 and showed the outstanding debt at being $2.7 trillion. Unfortunately, they have had a slight technical hitch. As the debt has not reduced but in fact increased, the clock now doesn’t have enough digits so that it has had to be rebuilt in order to reach such an appallingly high level of number and debt. What could the number be now ? How about $11 trillion. Never did like digital clocks."

[Galbally]

gmc;1018206 wrote: The daily mail are closet nazis themselves-I imagine they will declaring their support for the BNP any time soon-or maybe the english national party if the scots vote for independence and call for invasion to get the oil back :sneaky:

I think generally the population is less anti-european than the daily mail and clowns like ukip would have us want to believe.

It's an improvement-better than the we are up **** creek without a paddle-paddle faster I don't see the problem- approach Bush had before.

Slightly more sensible analysis

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/cgi-bin ... dte=101008


It was an interesting article, but again its full of barley described Euro bashing as well, which is just that snide stuff you tend to get from people in the British media. Its true to say that up to this point, the response has been less than co-ordinated, basically the national governments being overwhelmed by the speed of events. Of course its easy to see that in the states there was decisive policy action, which proved far more politcally difficult to pass than was believed, and also the basic flaw being that the plan doesn't seem to be working.

I have to say though that if you look at the general models being used in say France and Germany compared to Britain, particularly in the housing market, its quite plain to see that the continental Europeans have run a more cautious measured set of policies than either the UK or America, now of course their banks have also fell foul of this drying up of lending, but I think British people need to look very hard at how their government has allowed the financial life of the country to be run for 10 to 15 years and compare it with how these things are done on the continent. Once the current crisis is over, it will be a time for taking stock and looking hard at very basic ideas about our financial and economic systems.

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Galbally;1018251 wrote:

I have to say though that if you look at the general models being used in say France and Germany compared to Britain, particularly in the housing market, its quite plain to see that the continental Europeans have run a more cautious measured set of policies than either the UK or America, now of course their banks have also fell foul of this drying up of lending, but I think British people need to look very hard at how their government has allowed the financial life of the country to be run for 10 to 15 years and compare it with how these things are done on the continent.


So why is Europe as a whole up **** creek without a paddle the same as the rest of us??

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oscar;1018272 wrote: So why is Europe as a whole up **** creek without a paddle the same as the rest of us??


In a word, they aren't in as bad a position as Britain, they have lower levels of public debt, lower levels of private debt, no housing boom and therefore more leverage to deal with the problems than the UK government which has presided over a massive expansion of personal credit and spending, as well as allowing the public finances to run away with them, that is now going to end abruptly and cause a serious retraction in the economy, we in Ireland are in the same position as Britain unfortunately. To bre fair to Brown and Darling they have come up with a decent plan, but it would have been better if they had not let the sitiation develop in the first place of course by allowing the financial markets and personal debt to get to the insane levels that have been reached. Vince Cable has been saying this for years in the House of Commons, but being a Liberal Democrat no one actually listened to him. On the continent, certainly some of the more internationalized banks are in trouble, and they are dragging the others down with them as everything is so interlinked.

Also within the Eurozone, its clear that Ireland and Spain are both in trouble essentially because they adtoped the US-British housing market and credit card driven boom, wheras France and Germany didn't and used their capital for more productive things such as investment in industry and infrastructure as opposed to personal consumption of unaffordable housing and associated.

However, everyone is in trouble Eurozone included because the whole global finance system is interlinked and has essentially collapsed, money is not being made available globally for banks or businesses, and Europe is not immune from what happens no more than anywhere else. Thats why its good that the whole of the EU, including Britain are adopting a general policy (based on Brown and Darling's plan, on which you should give them credit) to shore up the banking system. Once that has been achieved I have no dount that there are going to be massive changes of policy and direction when it comes to economics and finance in all European countries including the UK, moving away from the American model and back to something more European and based on the state and long term planning, in my estimation thats no bad thing.

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Galbally;1018312 wrote:



Thats why its good that the whole of the EU, including Britain are adopting a general policy (based on Brown and Darling's plan, on which you should give them credit) to shore up the banking system.


I am giving Gordon Brown massive credit on this one.

I have said it before on other threads but as well as blaming government and the money men, i blame the man in the street.

No-body put a gun to their heads, forced them into taking out consolodation loans, gaining more plastic and buy now pay later attitude.

When it goes tits up, they pop to the local court, get declared bankrupt, no assets, so the government and tax payer picks the bill up.

I am very fortunate in that i don't have money problems as such (yet) but it hacks me off. I use a debit card and that's it. I can't say my financial future is secure so i don't use plastic. Simply, i don't ever want a bailiff on my doorstep.

Now the bailout has gone through, the spending by the public will just start up again. We need some kind of penalisation for the idiots who think it's acceptable to borrow this kind of money.

[Galbally]

Bankers' £16bn bonus bonanza

By Nick Clark

Saturday, 18 October 2008

City bankers have not lost a penny of their multimillion-pound bonus packages so far, despite the credit crunch which has caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years, new figures show.

Official statistics reveal that, in the financial year to April, City workers took home £16bn, almost exactly the same as in 2007. The period covers the Northern Rock nationalisation and the UK employees hit by the Bear Stearns implosion. During the period, banks across the world were forced to make huge writedowns on investments linked to US subprime mortgages.

Bonus payments in the UK financial sector have more than trebled in just over five years, from £5bn in 2003, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS). This is shared among just over one million employees in the sector, but that is heavily skewed towards the high-powered executives, who are routinely handed seven-figure packages.

Last year, Bob Diamond, the president and head of investment banking at Barclays whose base salary was £250,000, was paid £18m after bonuses and options were taken into account

In a year where the British government has had to spend 37 billion pounds of British taxpayer money to prop these guys up, the fact that bonuses of 16 billion have been paid out to them, on top of already ridiculous salaries goes a long way to explaining what is so sick at the heart of modern capitalism. Ordinary people are set for one of the hardest years in decades, while the financial elite live like renaissance princes in the lap of ridiculous luxury. Its disgusting. The financial sector has more or less wrecked the financial system and the real economy, and yet they are still going to walk away with massive amounts of money and there seems to be nothing that can be done. It is obvious that immeadiate change is needed, and if shareholders won't do something about it, the regulators and government need to end the reign of these parasites.

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Galbally;1024628 wrote: Bankers' £16bn bonus bonanza

By Nick Clark

Saturday, 18 October 2008

City bankers have not lost a penny of their multimillion-pound bonus packages so far, despite the credit crunch which has caused the worst financial crisis in 80 years, new figures show.

Official statistics reveal that, in the financial year to April, City workers took home £16bn, almost exactly the same as in 2007. The period covers the Northern Rock nationalisation and the UK employees hit by the Bear Stearns implosion. During the period, banks across the world were forced to make huge writedowns on investments linked to US subprime mortgages.

Bonus payments in the UK financial sector have more than trebled in just over five years, from £5bn in 2003, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS). This is shared among just over one million employees in the sector, but that is heavily skewed towards the high-powered executives, who are routinely handed seven-figure packages.

Last year, Bob Diamond, the president and head of investment banking at Barclays whose base salary was £250,000, was paid £18m after bonuses and options were taken into account

In a year where the British government has had to spend 37 billion pounds of British taxpayer money to prop these guys up, the fact that bonuses of 16 billion have been paid out to them, on top of already ridiculous salaries goes a long way to explaining what is so sick at the heart of modern capitalism. Ordinary people are set for one of the hardest years in decades, while the financial elite live like renaissance princes in the lap of ridiculous luxury. Its disgusting. The financial sector has more or less wrecked the financial system and the real economy, and yet they are still going to walk away with massive amounts of money and there seems to be nothing that can be done. It is obvious that immeadiate change is needed, and if shareholders won't do something about it, the regulators and government need to end the reign of these parasites.


gally boy, i don't know where your getting your news from. is it the Irish times again who report backwards not forwards?

What your report did not cover is yes, these bonuses have been paid out but they are the bonuses for the last quater. It's a bit like you being owed a months punt money for scientising, having your company bought out and them not paying you.

Uncle Gordon has done the right thing by honouring these payments. If he didn't, these greedy bastards would call the lawyers in and sue the government for non-payment of what they are owed. They would get it as well under all shananagans of employment laws. They are as equally protected for back pay and bonuses as any one else is unfortunately.

Now they have all had the last drop of taxpayers money that they will ever get before Uncle Gordon sacked them, they can all feck off and jump off Tower Bridge.

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oscar;1024647 wrote: gally boy, i don't know where your getting your news from. is it the Irish times again who report backwards not forwards?

What your report did not cover is yes, these bonuses have been paid out but they are the bonuses for the last quater. It's a bit like you being owed a months punt money for scientising, having your company bought out and them not paying you.

Uncle Gordon has done the right thing by honouring these payments. If he didn't, these greedy bastards would call the lawyers in and sue the government for non-payment of what they are owed. They would get it as well under all shananagans of employment laws. They are as equally protected for back pay and bonuses as any one else is unfortunately.

Now they have all had the last drop of taxpayers money that they will ever get before Uncle Gordon sacked them, they can all feck off and jump off Tower Bridge.


Considering the cuts that are going to happen in next years UK budget its imperative that some of their bonuses should be legally clawed back to help pay for keeping pensioners warm, and kids in school. You are in for a terrible budget coming soon, trust me, that money will come in mighty useful. And 16 billion sterling is an awful lot of money, even 50 percent of that would go a long way to mitigating hardship.

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Galbally;1024924 wrote: Considering the cuts that are going to happen in next years UK budget its imperative that some of their bonuses should be legally clawed back to help pay for keeping pensioners warm, and kids in school. You are in for a terrible budget coming soon, trust me, that money will come in mighty useful. And 16 billion sterling is an awful lot of money, even 50 percent of that would go a long way to mitigating hardship.


You know what gally boy? for once in the history of all things British, i actually agree with you. Feck and beggorra, whatever next?

With Great Uncle Gordon being so busy on the EU summit, i have an inclining, he will announce something soon to us his worthy subjects.

After what he did to those money men, i don't think it's over yet, he may find a way of clawing some back. he is a very canny man you know, i mean Be jesus, who expected him to pull out the anti-terrorist law on Iceland? Or threatening the fuel stations with enquirys if they didn't slash prices immediately. He's a shrewd bastard and i can see those fat cats paying that money back big time.

Now will you please let me go to bed man? The last man who kept me awake all night had to pay :(

:D:D:D



be Christ, that little Irish twerp has got me typing in an Irish accent now for feck's sake.

[gmc]

oscar;1025006 wrote: You know what gally boy? for once in the history of all things British, i actually agree with you. Feck and beggorra, whatever next?

With Great Uncle Gordon being so busy on the EU summit, i have an inclining, he will announce something soon to us his worthy subjects.

After what he did to those money men, i don't think it's over yet, he may find a way of clawing some back. he is a very canny man you know, i mean Be jesus, who expected him to pull out the anti-terrorist law on Iceland? Or threatening the fuel stations with enquirys if they didn't slash prices immediately. He's a shrewd bastard and i can see those fat cats paying that money back big time.

Now will you please let me go to bed man? The last man who kept me awake all night had to pay :(

:D:D:D



be Christ, that little Irish twerp has got me typing in an Irish accent now for feck's sake.


Dear goad hen we'll mak a human being oot o ye yet. Next you'll be knocking back the guinness and wanting to hug everybody.

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gmc;1027799 wrote: Dear goad hen we'll mak a human being oot o ye yet. Next you'll be knocking back the guinness and wanting to hug everybody.


No Chance, you bearded Scottish, haggis bothering, heather munching, caber tossing, Whiskey distilling, deer shooting, kilt flinging, sporran grabbing, party of one.

:D:D:D:D:D

There wa a lovely bit in the Sunday mail yesterday about how Uncle Gordon's wife is wowing the crowds in Scotland. Now you showed me how to put links on, you've had it. You'll be reading the Daily Mail every day for the rest of your life.:wah:

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oscar;1027831 wrote: No Chance, you bearded Scottish, haggis bothering, heather munching, caber tossing, Whiskey distilling, deer shooting, kilt flinging, sporran grabbing, party of one.

:D:D:D:D:D

There wa a lovely bit in the Sunday mail yesterday about how Uncle Gordon's wife is wowing the crowds in Scotland. Now you showed me how to put links on, you've had it. You'll be reading the Daily Mail every day for the rest of your life.:wah:


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/th ... ml?ino=271

:D

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oscar;1027831 wrote: No Chance, you bearded Scottish, haggis bothering, heather munching, caber tossing, Whiskey distilling, deer shooting, kilt flinging, sporran grabbing, party of one.

:D:D:D:D:D

There wa a lovely bit in the Sunday mail yesterday about how Uncle Gordon's wife is wowing the crowds in Scotland. Now you showed me how to put links on, you've had it. You'll be reading the Daily Mail every day for the rest of your life.:wah:


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/th ... ml?ino=272

:D

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gmc;1028644 wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/th ... ml?ino=271

:D


Ha ha very funny gmc. The strange thing about Gordon Brown as oppossed to all the idiots whe have had over the years..... I'd actually shag Gordon Brown :(:(

I googled the SNP and i don't fancy your bloke much, that Sir Sporran-bollocks

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fuzzy butt;1028706 wrote: I think I just found a husband:wah::wah::wah::wah:


:wah::wah::wah::wah::wah:

[gmc]

oscar;1028788 wrote: Ha ha very funny gmc. The strange thing about Gordon Brown as oppossed to all the idiots whe have had over the years..... I'd actually shag Gordon Brown :(:(

I googled the SNP and i don't fancy your bloke much, that Sir Sporran-bollocks


Luckily, daily mail readers being like hen's teeth up here, we apply slightly more rational criteria when choosing who to vote for.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/th ... ml?ino=272

Sorry, wrong cartoon

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gmc;1028884 wrote: Luckily, daily mail readers being like hen's teeth up here, we apply slightly more rational criteria when choosing who to vote for.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/th ... ml?ino=272

Sorry, wrong cartoon


We're British gmc, we don't go around voting for idiots just because we'd shag them. Nor do we shag them, then vote them in as in the case of Blunkett.. Yuk and double yuk... or that nasty ex gome and minger, Cook....Pass the sick bag please.

I just said, that of all the idiots ever voted in, i find Uncle Gordon quite shaggable. I mean i wouldn't need a blindfold, put it that way.

That worrie's me slighty though. It is the first time i have viewed a Scottish person in such a manner. What the feck and Beggorrahh is happening to me??

Hubby says it's because i spend more time talking to you and Dr gallbladder than i do him and Scottishness and Irishtwerpness is contagious.

Good god, if only my father could hear me talk such a way? I came home drunk once and he asked me if i was 'Squiffy' Errr, you what dad??

Spot told me the other day, that i write like Mary Whitehouse, that's because all dad's pals were called squiffy or jiffy and he was a Mason.

He sent me to private Grammar school as a small one, which i hated.

My hubby is ex armed forces so he has friends called squiffy and goggles too.

We talk British in this house and nothing else.

I've told you before my Scottish haggis party of one, my family had a 'cutting up' ceremony of my Labour Party membership card a year ago and posted it to No 10.

I have been approached by other partie's and i'm still open to options.

We have a very nice young prospective Conservative M.P who supported me throughout my troubles, and he e mailed me recently to ask my help. That's a campaign to stop the building of 12,000 houses on greenbelt down the road from me, so that's possible. There is then the option of 'Oscar's raving looney party as suggested by you, my little tartened one.

The labour twat here has been in for 19 year and it's our mission to oust him or i'll just have to assassinate him.

:D:D:D:D

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oscar;1029466 wrote: We're British gmc, we don't go around voting for idiots just because we'd shag them. Nor do we shag them, then vote them in as in the case of Blunkett.. Yuk and double yuk... or that nasty ex gome and minger, Cook....Pass the sick bag please.

I just said, that of all the idiots ever voted in, i find Uncle Gordon quite shaggable. I mean i wouldn't need a blindfold, put it that way.

That worrie's me slighty though. It is the first time i have viewed a Scottish person in such a manner. What the feck and Beggorrahh is happening to me??

Hubby says it's because i spend more time talking to you and Dr gallbladder than i do him and Scottishness and Irishtwerpness is contagious.

Good god, if only my father could hear me talk such a way? I came home drunk once and he asked me if i was 'Squiffy' Errr, you what dad??

Spot told me the other day, that i write like Mary Whitehouse, that's because all dad's pals were called squiffy or jiffy and he was a Mason.

He sent me to private Grammar school as a small one, which i hated.

My hubby is ex armed forces so he has friends called squiffy and goggles too.

We talk British in this house and nothing else.

I've told you before my Scottish haggis party of one, my family had a 'cutting up' ceremony of my Labour Party membership card a year ago and posted it to No 10.

I have been approached by other partie's and i'm still open to options.

We have a very nice young prospective Conservative M.P who supported me throughout my troubles, and he e mailed me recently to ask my help. That's a campaign to stop the building of 12,000 houses on greenbelt down the road from me, so that's possible. There is then the option of 'Oscar's raving looney party as suggested by you, my little tartened one.

The labour twat here has been in for 19 year and it's our mission to oust him or i'll just have to assassinate him.

:D:D:D:D


Stand against him-or is the english labour party the same misogynistic set up we have here?

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Now this is funny gmc

[gmc]

oscar;1029778 wrote: Now this is funny gmc




The more things change the more it stays the same.

[Oscar Namechange]

Very true.........I liked that

I put this one on another thread, but just incase you didn't see it.

I shall be seeing this guy tomorrow night :-4

My old buddie.. Jean Jaques Burnel, from 'The Stranglers'. He did a solo project in the mid seventie's called 'The Euroman Cometh'

This track had it's words distorted for fear of being too antagonistic to old Maggie'

It was profetic for it's day.