Presidential Prediction

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:59 am

Ian;1000260 wrote: I just watched it. You made me cry

-1:-1

What are you saying Ian?

Are you pro defending your county from future threats or are you anti war??

Are you pro McCain or Obama?

Tony Blair is trying to win peace in the middle East. The threat is if Iran nukes Isreal as threatened. America & Britain will nuke Iran. Russia will threaten to nuke America. Britain will join America. Russia nukes Poland. Russia invades Eastern Europe.

Obama has declared his feelings on Iran. McCain has declared his feelings on Iran.

What we must always remember is in the two World wars, troops were conscripted. Some had no choice. At the moment, we have a choice.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:06 am

OMG The british press reported on McCain singing "Bomb Iran" to Barbara Anne by the Beach Boys. God, he really did it. :-3:-3:-3

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:09 am

oscar;1000268 wrote: I just watched it. You made me cry

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What are you saying Ian?

Are you pro defending your county from future threats or are you anti war??

Are you pro McCain or Obama?

Tony Blair is trying to win peace in the middle East. The threat is if Iran nukes Isreal as threatened. America & Britain will nuke Iran. Russia will threaten to nuke America. Britain will join America. Russia nukes Poland. Russia invades Eastern Europe.

Obama has declared his feelings on Iran. McCain has declared his feelings on Iran.

What we must always remember is in the two World wars, troops were conscripted. Some had no choice. At the moment, we have a choice.
Again, there are more than two people running for president. This false choice between only republican & democrat is ruining our country. I thing the video clearly shows that the author sees both McCain and Obama bringing more war in their wake. While I don't necessarily agree with the video, I do agree we need to shake ourselves out of this "lesser of two evils" hypnosis.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:23 am

oscar;1000271 wrote: OMG The british press reported on McCain singing "Bomb Iran" to Barbara Anne by the Beach Boys. God, he really did it. :-3:-3:-3
In fairness, I tried to find the context. The questioner clearly thought we should have already bombed Iran. McCain is known to get sarcastic if he thinks it will help make a point. He did it in the recent debate. While several vids showed the question he was asked, this link is the only place out of probably a half dozen that I looked that even mentions what he said after his little 'song'.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/McCai ... _0419.html

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:17 am

oscar;1000252 wrote: Sorry GMC. My familys war record extends. I won't go into detail, it's long & boring. My maternal grandparents had a pub in a remote village during the war. They built a US Air force base next to the pub in the fields. My gran had more US troops in there than Eisenhower. Relationships were forged. That's all. It's the way i was brought up.

So does everybody elses in the UK. If you talk to anyone born in the twenty years post ww2 the odds are very high their parents were involved either directly or indirectly by being bombed out of their homes). If not their parents then their grandparents or aunts and uncles. I had one adult male relative who wasn't in the armed forces because he was in a reserved occupation. All the rest including my father fought. There's a few male relatives I've only seen pictures of. I think that's why we tend to make less fuss of our veterans days than the US, not that we don't care just that everybody was involved and we remember the sadness of the loss more than anything else. At least the survivors certainly do

Do you get the difference between involvement and commitment.

Take bacon and eggs at breakfast time. The hen is involved in the breakfast the pig is fully committed. It's like the US and europe in ww2. They were involved everybody else was fully committed. Yes they played a part and their help is appreciated but it was a long time coming.

mikeinie · Post by **mikeinie** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:24 am

It is amazing how easily people can say 'bomb' someone. It is not like getting a hair cut, first take a look at what it is they think it is ok to bomb:

http://www.worldisround.com/articles/73022/index.html

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:24 am

Accountable;1000282 wrote: In fairness, I tried to find the context. The questioner clearly thought we should have already bombed Iran. McCain is known to get sarcastic if he thinks it will help make a point. He did it in the recent debate. While several vids showed the question he was asked, this link is the only place out of probably a half dozen that I looked that even mentions what he said after his little 'song'.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/McCai ... _0419.html Thanks for that. I could not believe that a man of his experience could act so dumb. I guessed there had to be context that was cut. That's what the BBC did to me last night. I love McCain's sardonic remarks. Obama wouldn't have a sense of humour even if one came up & bit him on the arss. Even after watching the link, my feelings are the same. There are alternatives to the two parties. We have alternative's here as well, not just Gordon Brown & the opposition David Cameroon. There's another one called --- um---- um um-- See how memorable they are? I will get blasted for this but in truth, i want a Prime Minister/ President who will be strong & stand up to the aggressive nations that are destroying peace around the world already. What the hell is global terrorism, if it is not a war? Do we think it will stop after 9/11 & The London Tube bombings? Did any of you have family in those bombings? I want a strong leader who will say "Bring it on". Not umming & aarrring like Obama. If he gets in, he is not strong enough to handle the financial problems & certainly not strong enough to stand up to aggresive nations. Sometimes the best form of defence, is attack. We need leaders who are willing to attack to defend our nations. The option is that they walk right over us & nuke who the hell they like. Obama talks of taking on Iran. I doubt he has the balls to do it. I think McCain would & aggresive nations need to know he would. I feel that if other nations knew without doubt that THEIR country would be nuked, future wars could be avoided.

(The other one is called "Nick Clegg". I knew all along, but i choose not to aknowledge him.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:35 am

The way i saw it, Iraq invaded Kuwait illegaly. They were asked to withdraw. Iraq gassed the Kurds, their own people. That was biological gas. Iraq was harbouring Terror suspects linked to 9/11. Iraq had policies of "Ethnic Cleansing" of it's own people, no different to Hitler & The Holocaust. Invade yes. Send Prince Harry there? Now that is unfair on Iraq & Afghanistan.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:48 am

gmc;1000293 wrote: So does everybody elses in the UK. If you talk to anyone born in the twenty years post ww2 the odds are very high their parents were involved either directly or indirectly by being bombed out of their homes). If not their parents then their grandparents or aunts and uncles. I had one adult male relative who wasn't in the armed forces because he was in a reserved occupation. All the rest including my father fought. There's a few male relatives I've only seen pictures of. I think that's why we tend to make less fuss of our veterans days than the US, not that we don't care just that everybody was involved and we remember the sadness of the loss more than anything else. At least the survivors certainly do

Do you get the difference between involvement and commitment.

Take bacon and eggs at breakfast time. The hen is involved in the breakfast the pig is fully committed. It's like the US and europe in ww2. They were involved everybody else was fully committed. Yes they played a part and their help is appreciated but it was a long time coming. Hey, i did say the timing was questionable. I know what your saying is right. I think we should do more for our veterans days. I have only photo's. I make a big big fuss on veterans day. I have to, my dad was my hero. I will be laying a blue wreath for the RAF this year because i'm proud of my dad. Maybe the wars were so devastating, the loss so great that people like my dad brought us up differently. I don't know to be honest. My husband, i hasten to add, is a lot older than me, was a war baby. His brother was born on the London Underground. His mum was bombed out.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:53 am

Mr Oscar is very angry that his wife is spending more time talking to GMC, Mike & Accountable, than him. I'm in that doghouse Jimbo. catch you all later

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:01 am

this thread has grown another 40 pages!

don't mind me....

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:41 am

Mr Oscar has left the building.

Hey Spot, did you just see that Red Arrows Formation Fly pass go over the roof of my house? It must have come across you as well. The noise OMG We ran out the house & got a wicked sight to behold.

Mr Oscar has returned, bollocks

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:00 am

Hoss;1000489 wrote: I don't think anyone here said anything negative about British resolve in WW2. Yes you were fully committed; no doubt, it was your war after all. But don't tell me we weren’t committed, we didn't send eggs, we sent men to fight and each one who died was fully committed, each one who fought was fully committed and each family that sent them was fully committed.

Nobody did say anything negative. Nor would I detract from the american servicemen. You miss the point of the analogy. The difference is our continued existence as an independent nation was at stake, yours was not. I know many uk servicemen find it irritating (or used to they're mostly dead now) that americans seem to think ww2 started in 1941 and that they won the war with no one else involved. My comment was aimed at oscar, the america saved us irritates because you didn't- you only got involved half way through. However, We're derailing the thread.

Stop it oscar.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:11 am

Apologies GMC McCain or Obama?

Patsy Warnick · Post by **Patsy Warnick** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:36 am

This thread has gone from made in the USA to WWII

from sea to shiny sea....

Lisa Ling has a special - airing on Oprah today and Nightline tonight.

Epidemic of Heroin in Small town OHIO.

stemming from so said: families who can't afford prescriptions - Heroin is cheaper.

What?

a clip was shown - a beautiful 23 yr. old female (use to be cheerleader for local school), she is pregnant with her 2nd child, she has to shoot up every 3 to 4 hours to function.

I'm looking forward to the special.

Small Town America is literally dying

Patsy

gmc · Post by **gmc** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:23 pm

oscar;1000581 wrote: Apologies GMC McCain or Obama?

McCain seems to be just more of the same. If the captain of the ship of state has just run aground on rocks anyone could see coming and threw overboard or ridiculed anyone that said it was the wrong way to go then appointing another captain that intends to follow the same course just because he has more experience is not sensible. Maybe the one saying let's go the other way might have a point.

I don't know whose going to win. I don't understand american politics-they have some weird ideas- and their domestic politics are irrelevant to me. Foreign policy matters a great deal however. Sooner or later McCain would have to sit down and talk to Iran, enemies always end up talking to each other eventually, even if it's only to agree to collect the bodies. Talking to a potential enemy isn't a sign of weakness it may possible avoid a lot of unnecessary bloodshed. Not talking is a sign of stupidity. If they start out refusing to talk in the first place then that means warfare sooner or later because there is no alternative being offered.

He's also talking up warfare with Russia. For an ex soldier he doesn't seem to understand that other people will fight when left with no choice. Bullying third world countries like Iran is one thing Russia and China are not third world. If he gets in I think it will be the end of Nato and the start of a european defence force as one time allies distance themselves from an increasingly militaristic USA and prepare to stand off against russia-in case they need to.

The sight of the present administration frantically trying to get the tax payer to bail out their cronies while at the same time letting them walk away unscathed and still wealthy is one to behold. This bail out is not socialism or anything remotely like it-that would at least ostensibly be for the benefit of the struggling masses. What you are seeing is good old fashioned right wing politics-one elite looking after the interests of the other meanwhile raise the taxes and let the peasants pay the bill. (but not the taxes on the rich cos they will spend and the benefit will trickle down). Course America is a classless society without elites. isn't it.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:10 pm

What happened to Northern Rock? Another British High Street Bank is on the brink of collapse. The Bradford & Bingley. British press report a merger. Gordon Brown flies out for crisis talks with Bush & more UK money for bailout. The next day, Gordon Brown announces to Britain (Today), he's sold The Bradford & Bingley High Street Banking Chain to Spain. Hours later, the BBC report in a newsflash that the bailout talks in America have collapsed. What's going on GMC? What the hell are they doing?

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:22 pm

oscar;1001259 wrote: What happened to Northern Rock? Another British High Street Bank is on the brink of collapse. The Bradford & Bingley. British press report a merger. Gordon Brown flies out for crisis talks with Bush & more UK money for bailout. The next day, Gordon Brown announces to Britain (Today), he's sold The Bradford & Bingley High Street Banking Chain to Spain. Hours later, the BBC report in a newsflash that the bailout talks in America have collapsed. What's going on GMC? What the hell are they doing? I guess asking this question will be pretty DUMB. Is banks going belly up, going on all over Europe? have been so involved with what is DYING here. Sad to say i have not been paying attention to Europe's woes. I have a dear friend who lives in the northern -part of Italy. Her husband is a contractor. Are there big lay offs going on there too?

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:57 pm

southern yankee;1001386 wrote: I guess asking this question will be pretty DUMB. Is banks going belly up, going on all over Europe? have been so involved with what is DYING here. Sad to say i have not been paying attention to Europe's woes. I have a dear friend who lives in the northern -part of Italy. Her husband is a contractor. Are there big lay offs going on there too? Your not dumb. Your present President is but your not.

Call me an old cynic, even bitter, while i sit here dreaming up excuses for my Prime Minister again.

One minute he's making an awesome speech to the UN, the next, i'm remembering that as a fully paid up member of his government at the time, donating money that i could ill afford to The Labour Party, he sold me out to Europe.

IMHO Nope. Europe's o.k. It's Britain & America that's gone tits up.

We're getting news flashes that tell us even the bailout talks for America have collapsed.

Gordon Brown flew out to offer Bush a further package from the UK. Just take the money Dubya. It's easy.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:38 pm

I resign. just bring in Fabio Capello to take no 10 Downing Street. McCain take Obama out.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:06 pm

southern yankee;1001386 wrote: I guess asking this question will be pretty DUMB. Is banks going belly up, going on all over Europe? have been so involved with what is DYING here. Sad to say i have not been paying attention to Europe's woes. I have a dear friend who lives in the northern -part of Italy. Her husband is a contractor. Are there big lay offs going on there too?

Sorry southern yankee. It's another day & i just found this for you in one of our Tabloids.

"The Sun" Newspaper Tuesday September 30th 2008

"ITALY"

"Trading in bank UNICREDIT was suspended twice yesterday---

as it's shares closed ten per cent and hit a decade-long low.

The bank is exposed to the credit crunch as half it's revenue is from abroad."

If Britain and America collapse, Italy will suffer.

Sorry to bring bad news,

Hope your dear friend in the North is o.k. and won't be affected.

"The Daily mail" front page headline to day.

MELT DOWN ON WALL STREET

"The Sun" front page headline today.

BLACKEST MONDAY

"Stockmarkets crashed world wide yesterday as US politicians rejected a £400 billion plan to bail out it's financial system.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:21 pm

Hubby made a few moves with his 401K. Much safer how it is now. Would rather stay where we are. Instead of drown. will wait and see from here. rather be safe then sorry. :(The only stock that did not dive yesterday was Campbles. something to do with stress and confort foods. I know i had a candy bar today:wah:

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:42 pm

southern yankee;1003258 wrote: Hubby made a few moves with his 401K. Much safer how it is now. Would rather stay where we are. Instead of drown. will wait and see from here. rather be safe then sorry. :(The only stock that did not dive yesterday was Campbles. something to do with stress and confort foods. I know i had a candy bar today:wah:

:yh_rotfl: Good thinking. We've had your President on t.v. all night. God, he's dumb.:yh_pumpkn:yh_doh and boy, has he got a frown on his face. I might just stay up all night to see if he really do'es explode. My bank is one that has not been even mentioned in news reports here. I'm getting a little worried. Did they crash without me knowing? The minute i hear a rumble, we will be doing the same as your hubby. My hubby made the suggestion to me today that we switch our money quick to e bay.:yh_pray It's not that stupid on reflection.

Why do i seem to be the only woman that hate's chocolate (candy) ??

Good luck. Oscar

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:38 pm

flopstock;966974 wrote: It's all a joke right?:rolleyes:

The sad thing is, it will work. uninformed Blacks will vote for Obama because he's black and uninformed women will vote for McCain because she's female..

issues? who cares about the issues:rolleyes:

I heard a gentleman say today that this election comes down to a vote on race. Really? What about abortion, gay rights, environmental responsibility, energy, prayer in schools? If this comes down to race then shame on ALL of us!...go to "On the issues"...you can see how the candidates have voted, quotes, ...etc.

Make an informed choice on the best candidate, not which party they belong to, not what color their skin is, or if they are the same sex you are. When did we become so shallow?

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:02 pm

Hey Hoss,

Making fun of me cause it's my first post, that's cold! : ) .

Actually I was looking at the poll prediction for candidates and this post came up.

Interesting site.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:05 pm

Are they trying to save McCain's behind/? is that why Republicans are so against this?? Not that i am not. I was a Dem. since the mid 70's. I think I will be a Ind. from now on.:wah: God save whoever is our next leader. He will be in for one hell of a ride!!!!!:(

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:16 am

Lisamree;1003413 wrote: Hey Hoss,

Making fun of me cause it's my first post, that's cold! : ) .

Actually I was looking at the poll prediction for candidates and this post came up.

Interesting site. i am sure Hoss was not making fun of you. he is a nice guy.

Accountable · Post by **Accountable** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:47 am

Lisamree;1003389 wrote: I heard a gentleman say today that this election comes down to a vote on race. Really? What about abortion, gay rights, environmental responsibility, energy, prayer in schools? If this comes down to race then shame on ALL of us!...go to "On the issues"...you can see how the candidates have voted, quotes, ...etc.

Make an informed choice on the best candidate, not which party they belong to, not what color their skin is, or if they are the same sex you are. When did we become so shallow?Fresh ideas! Welcome! :-6

Do you really think the office of President should be concerned with the day-to-day lives of Americans, and issues such as prayer in school?? It's an awful big job doing the things specified in the Constitution. Can't we leave these smaller issues to the state or local gov'ts?

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:03 am

Accountable;1003631 wrote: Fresh ideas! Welcome! :-6

Do you really think the office of President should be concerned with the day-to-day lives of Americans, and issues such as prayer in school?? It's an awful big job doing the things specified in the Constitution. Can't we leave these smaller issues to the state or local gov'ts? love a good stimulating debate. that is how we learn and grow.

Nomad · Post by **Nomad** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:04 am

Accountable;1003631 wrote: Fresh ideas! Welcome! :-6

Do you really think the office of President should be concerned with the day-to-day lives of Americans, and issues such as prayer in school?? It's an awful big job doing the things specified in the Constitution. Can't we leave these smaller issues to the state or local gov'ts?

I predict by the end of the decade states, cities, townships etc will no longer exist.

We will simply be called Washington.

southern yankee · Post by **southern yankee** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:05 am

Nomad;1003636 wrote: I predict by the end of the decade states, cities, townships etc will no longer exist.

We will simply be called Washington. oh my

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:59 am

Hoss;1003418 wrote: Fantastic place!

Lets pretend that we know each other, and make everyone think I brought you here. Let's see how long it will take them to figure it out. Wanna? :wah:

sunny104 · Post by **sunny104** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:04 am

Nomad;1003636 wrote: I predict by the end of the decade states, cities, townships etc will no longer exist.

We will simply be called Washington.

....AND Texas! No one is taking over Texas! :p

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:07 am

Lisamree;1003389 wrote: I heard a gentleman say today that this election comes down to a vote on race. Really? What about abortion, gay rights, environmental responsibility, energy, prayer in schools? If this comes down to race then shame on ALL of us!...go to "On the issues"...you can see how the candidates have voted, quotes, ...etc.

Make an informed choice on the best candidate, not which party they belong to, not what color their skin is, or if they are the same sex you are. When did we become so shallow?
We didn't.

Sure, there will be a proportion of votors who will vote Obama for his colour.

Just as there will be a proportion of fractions who will be queuing up to be the next "Lee Harvey Oswald". That's fact & one of the concerns of The British Public.

If it happens, Biden will rule your country and turn Obama into a legend --- and for what? -- Being Black??

Do you think for a minute that Gordon Brown was voted The Prime Minister by his cabinet because he's scottish and the scots took to the streets?

Do you even know who Gordon Brown is?

He's the scottish twat that was the first premier to fly to your county to offer your country ANOTHER bail ou package for ALL of us.

Grow up. Did you bother to read ALL the posts of the views of your countrymen before you logged on and suggested that we are nothing but race led?

There will be a proportion of women who will vote McCain for Sarah Palin.

It is not down to race. Don't insult the intelligence of your fine nation or ever ever under-estimate the Intelligence of your ally -- Great Britain.

cue gmc, ian & galbally

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:32 am

o.k Race issue. I repeat a post i put on another thread.

America, you had a speech Called "I have a dream" by MLK that stayed in the hearts of the world.

Great Britain had a speech once that stayed in the MINDS of the world. You may not recall it, as it was a long time ago. Governments across the world CHOOSE to bury it.

British Conservative Member of Parliment 1950 -- 1974

Ulster Unionist MP 1974 -- 1987

In 1968 he rocked the establishment.

People of Great Britain took to the streets.

Edward Heath sacked him

The name of his speech --- "RIVERS OF BLOOD"

Brigadier John Enoch Powell MBE June 16th 1912 -- Feb 8th 1998

I knew of this man. Not from Tabloid newspapers. From word of mouth.

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:14 am

Hoss;1003418 wrote: Fantastic place!

Lets pretend that we know each other, and make everyone think I brought you here. Let's see how long it will take them to figure it out. Wanna? :wah:

Hoss...why do we have to pretend? You're afraid I'll tell your secrets? NEVER! : )

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:27 am

Accountable;1003631 wrote: Fresh ideas! Welcome! :-6

Do you really think the office of President should be concerned with the day-to-day lives of Americans, and issues such as prayer in school?? It's an awful big job doing the things specified in the Constitution. Can't we leave these smaller issues to the state or local gov'ts?

Constitution? Do we still even teach that in our schools? You know my parents live a few miles from where it was signed, this little room...couldn't be farther from "auspicious" if it were scripted. Each of those men was putting his life on the line, and his families' future lives to stand up for a country they could die for. It's kinda weird to stand there and think about it.

Now, we don't want to vote when it's raining. It can't get better without us, the world can't become what it should be without each of us. As a matter of fact, I have a great quote for this...(that's right Hoss..I love quotes as you well know, --Hoss supplied quite a few for me over the years! Remember this one?)

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do." Edward E. Hale

By the way, to the Brit talking about our American sacrifices in WW2, I understand we were late, I'm sorry...but we showed up. Did you know the first American death in WW2-an airman by the name of Losey. Street named after him at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois. Nobody's effort at that time should be forgotten. Don't know if we have that type of fortitude today.

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:32 am

Nomad;1003636 wrote: I predict by the end of the decade states, cities, townships etc will no longer exist.

We will simply be called Washington.

NO WAY!...who would we play against in the "World" Series?

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:43 am

oscar;1003788 wrote: We didn't.

Sure, there will be a proportion of votors who will vote Obama for his colour.

Just as there will be a proportion of fractions who will be queuing up to be the next "Lee Harvey Oswald". That's fact & one of the concerns of The British Public.

If it happens, Biden will rule your country and turn Obama into a legend --- and for what? -- Being Black??

Do you think for a minute that Gordon Brown was voted The Prime Minister by his cabinet because he's scottish and the scots took to the streets?

Do you even know who Gordon Brown is?

He's the scottish twat that was the first premier to fly to your county to offer your country ANOTHER bail ou package for ALL of us.

Grow up. Did you bother to read ALL the posts of the views of your countrymen before you logged on and suggested that we are nothing but race led?

There will be a proportion of women who will vote McCain for Sarah Palin.

It is not down to race. Don't insult the intelligence of your fine nation or ever ever under-estimate the Intelligence of your ally -- Great Britain.

cue gmc, ian & galbally

Cranky, party of one? I wasn't commenting on ANY other posts...I was merely sharing a story I had heard that we(Americans) were numnuts who basically would not bother to look at issues, because all we cared about was Race...

In AMERICAN voting...not Britian, Europe, Asia. Gordon Brown, no don't know him. I've heard of him though. At the moment my hands are full with our own Yahoos! (none of which have that lovely picture of them clearing their nose)

Grow up? Sir, save your insults. You misread my comment.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:55 am

Lisamree;1004209 wrote: Constitution? Do we still even teach that in our schools? You know my parents live a few miles from where it was signed, this little room...couldn't be farther from "auspicious" if it were scripted. Each of those men was putting his life on the line, and his families' future lives to stand up for a country they could die for. It's kinda weird to stand there and think about it.

Now, we don't want to vote when it's raining. It can't get better without us, the world can't become what it should be without each of us. As a matter of fact, I have a great quote for this...(that's right Hoss..I love quotes as you well know, --Hoss supplied quite a few for me over the years! Remember this one?)

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do." Edward E. Hale

By the way, to the Brit talking about our American sacrifices in WW2, I understand we were late, I'm sorry...but we showed up. Did you know the first American death in WW2-an airman by the name of Losey. Street named after him at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois. Nobody's effort at that time should be forgotten. Don't know if we have that type of fortitude today.

The Brit?? Is that as opposed to the Yank? Don't insult me. I am British. I always refer to US citizens as the Americans. Have the same curtosy. Here it's called manners.

Don't know if we have that kind of fortitude today? Do you know any British people? Other than Sir Winston Churchill?

Let me tell you about fortitude -- present day-- war on terror.

Al-Queda blew you up, they blew Britain up. Scotland, different matter. They TRIED to blow them up. How ******* dumb can AL-Queda get? To try to bring death & destruction to Scotland and target Glasgow airport.

Only in Scotland would you see a scene of an AL-Queda terrorist on fire and a scottish man punching him to the ground.

Our Prime Minister is scottish. Know him? He's the one that never smiles.

He has just annouced in a press statement after your government turned down the UK's offer with another package of UK money to bail out The money men and save ALL our economys, Quote "Bush -- Fix it now." Doe's America want to **** with a Scottish Prime Minister?

Lisamree · Post by **Lisamree** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:22 pm

oscar;1004258 wrote: The Brit?? Is that as opposed to the Yank? Don't insult me. I am British. I always refer to US citizens as the Americans. Have the same curtosy. Here it's called manners.

Don't know if we have that kind of fortitude today? Do you know any British people? Other than Sir Winston Churchill?

Let me tell you about fortitude -- present day-- war on terror.

Al-Queda blew you up, they blew Britain up. Scotland, different matter. They TRIED to blow them up. How ******* dumb can AL-Queda get? To try to bring death & destruction to Scotland and target Glasgow airport.

Only in Scotland would you see a scene of an AL-Queda terrorist on fire and a scottish man punching him to the ground.

Our Prime Minister is scottish. Know him? He's the one that never smiles.

He has just annouced in a press statement after your government turned down the UK's offer with another package of UK money to bail out The money men and save ALL our economys, Quote "Bush -- Fix it now." Doe's America want to **** with a Scottish Prime Minister?

Oscar,

Enough. I'm not sure why you are taking what I was saying about AMERICANS' fortitude as an insult to you, but so be it. I apologize. As to the word "Brit" yes I know a few. I've never been told that is an insult. Sorry. But before taking others to task about their lack of manners, you may want to apologize for yours.

I am NOT commenting on Britain when I comment, or any other country and their people. I would be uninformed of the exact nature of citizens in other countries live. I am only stating what I know about America and our issues. I would appreciate it if you would show me the respect of not assuming who and what I am.

You have been wrong in your assumptions concerning me Every time Oscar, I would appreciate leniancy until you get to "know"me. If you can't be gracious enough for leniancy, then please leave me out of your posts.

Thank you.

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:30 pm

Lisamree;1004232 wrote: Cranky, party of one? I wasn't commenting on ANY other posts...I was merely sharing a story I had heard that we(Americans) were numnuts who basically would not bother to look at issues, because all we cared about was Race...

In AMERICAN voting...not Britian, Europe, Asia. Gordon Brown, no don't know him. I've heard of him though. At the moment my hands are full with our own Yahoos! (none of which have that lovely picture of them clearing their nose)

Grow up? Sir, save your insults. You misread my comment.
AMERICAN voting? You think that your Wall Street crash has no impact on the financial situation of Europe? If you think it's only AMERICAN voting, then you know nothing of British Politics.

We have to care about AMERICAN voting. The world is stuffed full of American and British military bases. YOUR missiles are in OUR European Constitution. YOUR missiles are in Poland which is part of OUR Constitution with the full backing of Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown, The British Prime Minister who would push that button with no hesitation, fear or conseqeunce. If you are deluded enough and insular enough to believe this election is all about America, then i guess you care not for the rest of the world but only about the AMERICAN vote. I guess you also have not researched the British/American pact.

But i forgot, Tom cruise defeated the Luftwaffe single handed didn't he :yh_rotfl

Who ever gets in Darling, they will need the full support of Great Britain as they have for centurie's. Educate yourself. There again how can you possibly know of British history when you seem to know nothing of your own.

Don't insult you?? I don't need to, you've made a [moderator intervention: intolerable slur removed] of yourself all alone.

Cranky party of one?? Save your insults Sir?? Oscar is a woman. Couldn't even glean that from other posts could you??

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:54 pm

Lisamree;1004321 wrote: Oscar,

Enough. I'm not sure why you are taking what I was saying about AMERICANS' fortitude as an insult to you, but so be it. I apologize. As to the word "Brit" yes I know a few. I've never been told that is an insult. Sorry. But before taking others to task about their lack of manners, you may want to apologize for yours.

I am NOT commenting on Britain when I comment, or any other country and their people. I would be uninformed of the exact nature of citizens in other countries live. I am only stating what I know about America and our issues. I would appreciate it if you would show me the respect of not assuming who and what I am.

You have been wrong in your assumptions concerning me Every time Oscar, I would appreciate leniancy until you get to "know"me. If you can't be gracious enough for leniancy, then please leave me out of your posts.

Thank you.

I lose my manners when i see a post claiming that your fellow countrymen are shallow enough to vote Black.

You have no doubt posted it to raise a debate. That's the whole idea of a forum is it not, to raise debate?

I was defending your fellow countrymen as i have on many previous posts, even against MY fellow countrymen at times.

That's one thing about us BRITS. Attack is the best form of defence. Incidentally, that's why Britain will go to war with Iran without the blink of an eye. They threatened to nuke Israel.

Us BRITS don't like our ally's being threatened.

When you get to know me, because i am a BRIT, i never surrender.

I am gracious enough for leniancy, i excused your time keeping in the last war.

I can excuse anything, so i accept your apology.

Truce?? Let's start again shall we?

And jumpin Jack Flash is a gas gas gas. :-6

Post by **Oscar Namechange** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:57 pm

We're back to normal guys.

MR Oscar has just come in and heavilly sedated MRS Oscar